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Posted: 7/28/2021 11:54:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 11:58:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. My personal view on that is telling guys they can’t all have the hormone levels of an 18 y/o is a form of misandry. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:02:19 PM EDT
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Famous line: "I tried lifting weights, but they were SO HEAVY!"
Maybe that is why.... |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it's as simple as the fact that other countries start weightlifting training as children. Nothing more, nothing less. State sponsored camps go a long way, not to mention state sponsored doping programs. American lifters get an early start if they're 14-17. By that point these kids have already been lifting for 10 years. https://cdn.dmcl.biz/media/image/136085/o/mmexport1550824916261.jpg https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1076586/the-chinese-system-how-china-left-europe-in-its-wake-to-become-a-weightlifting-superpower This. But also for the same reasons that the commies, and former commies, are/were always producing the best ballet dancers, etc. Because they subsidize it and have kids do it as a career from an early age. It's hard to compete with that - especially where the majority of the country has no interest or pride in it. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:10:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My personal view on that is telling guys they can’t all have the hormone levels of an 18 y/o is a form of misandry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. My personal view on that is telling guys they can’t all have the hormone levels of an 18 y/o is a form of misandry. Seems reasonable |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ours don't use drugs Actually, you have that reversed. All of our good ones compete in the PED allowed comps |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hellyeahbrother.gif I was chatting with a buddy a couple years ago talking about this. He said "do you want to watch a clean competition or not?!?" I said "I don't give a fuck if it's a clean competition, if I want to watch a mediocre lifter I can video myself, I want to see a roided up beast snatch a house" Fuck it, most are already doping anyway. Who cares as long as it's an even playing field. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. hellyeahbrother.gif I was chatting with a buddy a couple years ago talking about this. He said "do you want to watch a clean competition or not?!?" I said "I don't give a fuck if it's a clean competition, if I want to watch a mediocre lifter I can video myself, I want to see a roided up beast snatch a house" Fuck it, most are already doping anyway. Who cares as long as it's an even playing field. Agree. They’re most all on some type of PED anyway, but right now half the sport is in dosing the gear to avoid popping on a test. Just eliminate that dynamic and let them run whatever and just show up ready to compete. It’s a lot cleaner of a competition than this half-natty do whatever as long as you test clean bullshit. As it stands the few that are honest are at a severe disadvantage relative to those with coaches more adept at scheduling drugs around testing. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:14:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My personal view on that is telling guys they can’t all have the hormone levels of an 18 y/o is a form of misandry. Sure. The problem is the advantages keep rolling up to dosages that aren't so benign. Sure US athletes use PEDs, but they're way less likely to use them over a long period of time, from childhood, to maximize performance while testing clean on a particular day than somebody from almost anywhere else. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:16:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, you have that reversed. All of our good ones compete in the PED allowed comps Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ours don't use drugs Actually, you have that reversed. All of our good ones compete in the PED allowed comps There are certainly comps without testing, but I believe all the major leagues in the US are tested...(which is still a joke). |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:24:03 PM EDT
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Because we do fine in bodybuilding, powerlifting, strongman, etc. The largest, strongest, fastest men in the world are NFL linemen. Let the rest of the world hold onto amateur weightlifting.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:24:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Incorrect. If you know when the comp is and you're smart about the type of gear you take you only need from 3-4 days to a couple weeks to piss clean. Most weightlifters aren't going to do more than 2-3....(maybe 4 on the outside) comps a year anyway. I'm not saying they're all juicing, but if you think it's not easy to defeat the tests and you're claiming that none are juicing because of the tests then you are misinformed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ours don't use drugs it's really this simple. ETA: to the guys who are obviously not golfers - this is Olympic lifting, not body building or un-tested powerlifting. There is no federation for competing in oly lifts that is untested in the US and tests are super easy to defeat sure, one or twice maybe - like the olympics. But not every other competition of your entire career. Sorry. In the US, the Oly lifting scene is generally natural BECAUSE everything is fucking tested. You do two comps a year and you barely have time to get a cycle in between. Just the way it is and therefore most all are not using gear. Incorrect. If you know when the comp is and you're smart about the type of gear you take you only need from 3-4 days to a couple weeks to piss clean. Most weightlifters aren't going to do more than 2-3....(maybe 4 on the outside) comps a year anyway. I'm not saying they're all juicing, but if you think it's not easy to defeat the tests and you're claiming that none are juicing because of the tests then you are misinformed. I guess I'm just speaking from my own experience and observations. Certainly mine could be skewed from the true mean, but I just haven't seen it. Powerlifting and bodybuilding however? Fur Shur |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:27:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Drugs certainly play a role. The movie Icarus is pretty good in showing just how widespread the Russian doping program went, even for olympic curlers! Money is also huge. I do know that Germany basically "enlists" their weightlifters in the army, and their job is to train. Other eastern bloc countries also basically pay their weightlifters a salary along with the dedicated training camps with catering, physiotherapists, saunas, etc. @fit definitely raised the interest level of weightlifting, and there is talent out there, just no cash to sustain a program to pump out a stable of internationally competitive lifters. IMHO We do it too. Look at our skeet shooters. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'm just speaking from my own experience and observations. Certainly mine could be skewed from the true mean, but I just haven't seen it. Powerlifting and bodybuilding however? Fur Shur Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ours don't use drugs it's really this simple. ETA: to the guys who are obviously not golfers - this is Olympic lifting, not body building or un-tested powerlifting. There is no federation for competing in oly lifts that is untested in the US and tests are super easy to defeat sure, one or twice maybe - like the olympics. But not every other competition of your entire career. Sorry. In the US, the Oly lifting scene is generally natural BECAUSE everything is fucking tested. You do two comps a year and you barely have time to get a cycle in between. Just the way it is and therefore most all are not using gear. Incorrect. If you know when the comp is and you're smart about the type of gear you take you only need from 3-4 days to a couple weeks to piss clean. Most weightlifters aren't going to do more than 2-3....(maybe 4 on the outside) comps a year anyway. I'm not saying they're all juicing, but if you think it's not easy to defeat the tests and you're claiming that none are juicing because of the tests then you are misinformed. I guess I'm just speaking from my own experience and observations. Certainly mine could be skewed from the true mean, but I just haven't seen it. Powerlifting and bodybuilding however? Fur Shur Weightlifters are less likely to be open about it IMO, it's definitely less acceptable in those circles vs PL and BB. Still though, the tests are very easily defeated and really mean nothing- I know there are clean guys too of course. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:30:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hellyeahbrother.gif I was chatting with a buddy a couple years ago talking about this. He said "do you want to watch a clean competition or not?!?" I said "I don't give a fuck if it's a clean competition, if I want to watch a mediocre lifter I can video myself, I want to see a roided up beast snatch a house" Fuck it, most are already doping anyway. Who cares as long as it's an even playing field. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. hellyeahbrother.gif I was chatting with a buddy a couple years ago talking about this. He said "do you want to watch a clean competition or not?!?" I said "I don't give a fuck if it's a clean competition, if I want to watch a mediocre lifter I can video myself, I want to see a roided up beast snatch a house" Fuck it, most are already doping anyway. Who cares as long as it's an even playing field. Yep. Let's see huge monstrosities clean and jerk 2,500lbs. Let's see 2min miles. Let's just do it already |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:32:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My personal view on that is telling guys they can’t all have the hormone levels of an 18 y/o is a form of misandry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. My personal view on that is telling guys they can’t all have the hormone levels of an 18 y/o is a form of misandry. You and I aren't thinking the same. I am talking about ridiculous amounts of drugs. Like IVs to rebuild your muscles while you sleep and then when you wake up, more drugs. Then when you compete you get meth or something. Just absolutely massive amounts of drugs at all times. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:36:03 PM EDT
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Maybe because they are dopers and can't pass the tests? Of course, not all of them are on disqualifying drugs. I think the problem is competing internationally is insanely expensive and not everyone gets the funding to compete.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:36:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We do it too. Look at our skeet shooters. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Drugs certainly play a role. The movie Icarus is pretty good in showing just how widespread the Russian doping program went, even for olympic curlers! Money is also huge. I do know that Germany basically "enlists" their weightlifters in the army, and their job is to train. Other eastern bloc countries also basically pay their weightlifters a salary along with the dedicated training camps with catering, physiotherapists, saunas, etc. @fit definitely raised the interest level of weightlifting, and there is talent out there, just no cash to sustain a program to pump out a stable of internationally competitive lifters. IMHO We do it too. Look at our skeet shooters. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:37:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:39:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. Absolutely, spend your money on athletes who will be disqualified. Brilliant strategy. 
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:40:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The real reason is that there is no money behind it Pretty much. It's like "Why doesn't the US dominate in Rugby" questions. Well, we absolutely would..look at the physicality and speed of an NFL linebacker. We produce those by the thousands...but there's no market here, no money, so they go where the money is. It's a cultural breeding ground, but not for that sport. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:43:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tested Raw Record Totals. USA does pretty well in lifting, just not Olympic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/473548/Screenshot_20210728-123444_Samsung_Inter-2030893.JPG Totally different sport than what's being discussed. Not one American on the list, for any bodyweight, men or women. https://iwf.sport/results/world-records/ |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:43:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely, spend your money on athletes who will be disqualified. Brilliant strategy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. Absolutely, spend your money on athletes who will be disqualified. Brilliant strategy. lol |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You and I aren't thinking the same. I am talking about ridiculous amounts of drugs. Like IVs to rebuild your muscles while you sleep and then when you wake up, more drugs. Then when you compete you get meth or something. Just absolutely massive amounts of drugs at all times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. If I owned a pro sports team and anyone legitimately tested clean I'd fire them immediately. Peeps at that level need to be pushing themselves as hard as possible. My personal view on that is telling guys they can’t all have the hormone levels of an 18 y/o is a form of misandry. You and I aren't thinking the same. I am talking about ridiculous amounts of drugs. Like IVs to rebuild your muscles while you sleep and then when you wake up, more drugs. Then when you compete you get meth or something. Just absolutely massive amounts of drugs at all times.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:52:19 PM EDT
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Instead of paying people not to work in this country and handing out free food, we ought to make them lift for it. From a young age. Problem solved.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:55:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally different sport than what's being discussed. Not one American on the list, for any bodyweight, men or women. https://iwf.sport/results/world-records/ I know that, I said so in my post and that was my point also. Olympic lifting is not popular here. That does not mean USA doesn't have good weightlifters. Olympic style is not the preferred style of US lifters, hence the lack of records or strong competitors. US has plenty of good lifters, just not in that style. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:56:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a lot of countries that don’t have heavily enforced anti-doping programs. I’m not saying that there aren’t also US athletes using steroids, there are plenty, but many other countries don’t even bother to check so you can use steroids right up until the week before you compete. Also, no matter how good you are at something, there’s an Asian somewhere who is better at it. OK but doesn't the Olympics test for doping? Isn't that how Russia got currently banned for a few years? |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know that, I said so in my post and that was my point also. Olympic lifting is not popular here. That does not mean USA doesn't have good weightlifters. Olympic style is not the preferred style of US lifters, hence the lack of records or strong competitors. US has plenty of good lifters, just not in that style. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Totally different sport than what's being discussed. Not one American on the list, for any bodyweight, men or women. https://iwf.sport/results/world-records/ I know that, I said so in my post and that was my point also. Olympic lifting is not popular here. That does not mean USA doesn't have good weightlifters. Olympic style is not the preferred style of US lifters, hence the lack of records or strong competitors. US has plenty of good lifters, just not in that style. If we had good weightlifters they'd go to the olympics. We have good powerlifters. You're confusing terms. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:58:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK but doesn't the Olympics test for doping? Isn't that how Russia got currently banned for a few years? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are a lot of countries that don’t have heavily enforced anti-doping programs. I’m not saying that there aren’t also US athletes using steroids, there are plenty, but many other countries don’t even bother to check so you can use steroids right up until the week before you compete. Also, no matter how good you are at something, there’s an Asian somewhere who is better at it. OK but doesn't the Olympics test for doping? Isn't that how Russia got currently banned for a few years? We've been over this, yes they test, but testing is a joke and easy to circumvent. Russia getting kicked out was a joke because everyone is doping lol. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:01:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know that, I said so in my post and that was my point also. Olympic lifting is not popular here. That does not mean USA doesn't have good weightlifters. Olympic style is not the preferred style of US lifters, hence the lack of records or strong competitors. US has plenty of good lifters, just not in that style. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Totally different sport than what's being discussed. Not one American on the list, for any bodyweight, men or women. https://iwf.sport/results/world-records/ I know that, I said so in my post and that was my point also. Olympic lifting is not popular here. That does not mean USA doesn't have good weightlifters. Olympic style is not the preferred style of US lifters, hence the lack of records or strong competitors. US has plenty of good lifters, just not in that style. "Weightlifters" are olympic lifters. You can't take a powerlifter or even a strongman and even ask them to perform an olympic lift. They wouldn't be able to do it. Period. And the guy you're talking to is an olympic lifter BTW..... |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:04:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we had good weightlifters they'd go to the olympics. We have good powerlifters. You're confusing terms. No I'm not confusing them. Just making an argument as to why we don't compete well at the Olympics. It is because Olympic lifts are not popular here because we concentrate on powerlifting more. I guess it's just not a very good point. 
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Weightlifters" are olympic lifters. You can't take a powerlifter or even a strongman and even ask them to perform an olympic lift. They wouldn't be able to do it. Period. And the guy you're talking to is an olympic lifter BTW..... I thought the US didn’t have Olympic lifters 
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:07:03 PM EDT
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Because they’re not lifting cheeseburgers
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:07:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought the US didn’t have Olympic lifters Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Weightlifters" are olympic lifters. You can't take a powerlifter or even a strongman and even ask them to perform an olympic lift. They wouldn't be able to do it. Period. And the guy you're talking to is an olympic lifter BTW..... I thought the US didn’t have Olympic lifters We have them, they're just lifting less weight. 
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. But also for the same reasons that the commies, and former commies, are/were always producing the best ballet dancers, etc. Because they subsidize it and have kids do it as a career from an early age. It's hard to compete with that - especially where the majority of the country has no interest or pride in it. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And there it is. Fuck the Olympics. It’s as bad as NCAA sports. Athletes can’t be paid, GTFOH with that. School spirit? National pride? Screw you, pay me. It’s beyond a full time job commitment in both cases assuming you are genetically at the top and have devoted your entire life to that goal. And the Olympics brings in serious money, just not for the athletes. NCAA athletes aren't paid? So they are paying for school, housing, food etc?  If want want to talk about how little NCAA athletes (and im only honestly talking football and men's basketball) are paid compared to how much the Athletic departments and NCAA makes off of them thats one thing(but is going to drastically be changing with NIL laws changing) but don't say dumb shit like "ThEy DoNt GeT pAiD" They do and most of them live far better lives than even some of the richest kids on campus because they don't have to pay for shit and most of them still get a cut from state/federal grants that go right into their pockets. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:09:40 PM EDT
[#38]
For those with interest, and time.....
 Why I'm Against Anti-Doping Part 1 |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:10:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ma Strength This is the one of the only Instagram accounts I follow, as well as squat university. Did a training seminar with him at my Crossfit gym. 6 hours of technique with nothing more than a 45 lb bar and I could barely use my hands for three days after. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:10:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Let's see huge monstrosities clean and jerk 2,500lbs. Let's see 2min miles. Let's just do it already Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. hellyeahbrother.gif I was chatting with a buddy a couple years ago talking about this. He said "do you want to watch a clean competition or not?!?" I said "I don't give a fuck if it's a clean competition, if I want to watch a mediocre lifter I can video myself, I want to see a roided up beast snatch a house" Fuck it, most are already doping anyway. Who cares as long as it's an even playing field. Yep. Let's see huge monstrosities clean and jerk 2,500lbs. Let's see 2min miles. Let's just do it already  Weekend Update: Kevin Nealon on the All-Drug Olympics - SNL |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySuspiciously commie avatar.... |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:11:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rasputin on super high doses of Lance Armstrong or Dwayne Johnson juice would have been interesting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. Imagine blood doping with HGH, massive testosterone and meth. I want to see these men. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:12:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No I'm not confusing them. Just making an argument as to why we don't compete well at the Olympics. It is because Olympic lifts are not popular here because we concentrate on powerlifting more. I guess it's just not a very good point. There is also the other direction. Powerlifting is not in the olympics so no State athlete selection and drug programs. So the Chinese and Russians State-produced athletes don't overwhelm the US lifters in powerlifting. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:14:26 PM EDT
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We've been feeding boys soy for two generations, now they can only compete against women.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:14:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine blood doping with HGH, massive testosterone and meth. I want to see these men. China will probably give everyone a preview for their olympics. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:14:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought the US didn’t have Olympic lifters Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Weightlifters" are olympic lifters. You can't take a powerlifter or even a strongman and even ask them to perform an olympic lift. They wouldn't be able to do it. Period. And the guy you're talking to is an olympic lifter BTW..... I thought the US didn’t have Olympic lifters Olympic lifts are not only done at the olympics lol |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No I'm not confusing them. Just making an argument as to why we don't compete well at the Olympics. It is because Olympic lifts are not popular here because we concentrate on powerlifting more. I guess it's just not a very good point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If we had good weightlifters they'd go to the olympics. We have good powerlifters. You're confusing terms. No I'm not confusing them. Just making an argument as to why we don't compete well at the Olympics. It is because Olympic lifts are not popular here because we concentrate on powerlifting more. I guess it's just not a very good point. Maybe....lol.... Yeah we have strong guys, I agree. I would argue it really doesn't have anything to do with weightlifting though. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China will probably give everyone a preview for their olympics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imagine blood doping with HGH, massive testosterone and meth. I want to see these men. China will probably give everyone a preview for their olympics. That's the sad part. You're seeing the best China can do with drugs. Imagine US tech with Icelandic bros and you have pretty much mythical monsters destroying cities. And they probably will from the roid rage. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:17:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Olympic lifts are not only done at the olympics lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Weightlifters" are olympic lifters. You can't take a powerlifter or even a strongman and even ask them to perform an olympic lift. They wouldn't be able to do it. Period. And the guy you're talking to is an olympic lifter BTW..... I thought the US didn’t have Olympic lifters Olympic lifts are not only done at the olympics lol Sounds like something a weak lifter not in the Olympics would say |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine blood doping with HGH, massive testosterone and meth. I want to see these men. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think we should stop the charade and just let everyone use a fuck ton of drugs in all competition. Let's see how far we can push human abilities with drugs. Imagine blood doping with HGH, massive testosterone and meth. I want to see these men. " Socially"? 
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