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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:04:33 PM EDT
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I got a DPMS M4gery in about '07. 1-7 Chrome lined barrel well over 5000 rounds with zero malfunctions. Good gun. Is the GII really junk? I kinda like the concept. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:04:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both, depended on the customer. When you were supplying Marty Daniel (I assume that means Daniel Defense), was there an actually difference in the parts they got, or is it mostly marketing when the rifles are made with the same materials. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:04:59 PM EDT
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So in late 2012 I purchased a DPMS .22lr upper that was made in collaboration with Nordic Components. Are parts going to be available for it in the future? Mainly the BCG that is modeled similar to a 10/22. It is a wicked little upper and very accurate. Just need to balance out if parts are not available for the thousands of rounds myself and kids have run through it.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:05:32 PM EDT
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How much of the current AR15 market is made with Chinese parts? Talking LPKs and stuff like that. Not talking about the cheapest of the cheap bullshit no name stuff, talking about brands we all know. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:06:25 PM EDT
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I have a bunch of DPMS parts in some rifles i was pretty happy with them. are there still rifles built in St Cloud? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:07:50 PM EDT
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Sad time. I only bought one DPMS, when Wal-Mart was unloading AR pattern rifles dirt cheap. This one has never been out of the box except to check the serial number when I bought it. It will never be worth a bunch on money, but one day one of my great grandchildren might say, "I never heard of DPMS". I will then educate them on the salad days.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:08:21 PM EDT
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WTF was the deal with the goofy picatinny gas block that was below-plane with the upper? 
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:08:46 PM EDT
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Why did they fuck up the G2 so badly?
It could have been amazing but they never offered decent configurations or parts. 16” 243 Win? Really? Lol. No threading on half of them. Really?! 
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:08:56 PM EDT
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They sold the parts to CDNN at a loss so you figure it out. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:10:19 PM EDT
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What does DPMS actually stand for. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:10:57 PM EDT
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Thanks for doing this. I worked for an FFL years ago and was direct before the Remington chaos. DPMS was good quality at a reasonable price and the CS was awesome for us in FL. Sad to see the black cat express retired. 
Also the Black Cat Express was a disaster but nothing is more fun that shooting out of it
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:12:18 PM EDT
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Are there still kitty cat barrels in some closet waiting for CDNN to purchase?
The other day someone from Bushmaster mentioned that warehouse FULL of parts, are there similar DPMS parts just sitting around too? Sad to see DPMS and Bushmaster go. They helped shape the current AR craze today. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:12:24 PM EDT
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Why can’t we have G2 stripped lowers and uppers? I would have bought the shit out of that.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:12:25 PM EDT
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Why did they fuck up the G2 so badly? It could have been amazing but they never offered decent configurations or parts. 16” 243 Win? Really? Lol. No threading on half of them. Really?! |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:13:18 PM EDT
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OP is answering questions like a boss. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:13:22 PM EDT
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1) Why did they sell to
2) You had a reputation for lowers with tight magwells. I had 3. All were tight. I sold them all.
Why wasn't this fixed faster? Moving beyond the gun industry.....You said the company philosophy was to sell 'as good as, but cheaper'. Do you see this as a viable business model in general, or would it be easier/better, in general, to position yourself as selling a premium product, at a high price/margin? edited - I meant, why did DPMS sell to Remington? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:14:05 PM EDT
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Why did they fuck up the G2 so badly? It could have been amazing but they never offered decent configurations or parts. 16” 243 Win? Really? Lol. No threading on half of them. Really?! |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:15:06 PM EDT
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My first AR was an off-the-rack DPMS 20" A2. I bought the DCM sights and a match trigger from the DPMS catalog and used it for NRA Service Rifle matches.
After 12 years and 8000+ rounds, the groups are starting to open up quite a bit. You wouldn't happen to have a spare DPMS DCM upper laying around, would you?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:15:43 PM EDT
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any idea how much randy walked away with?..and,have you ever met roger at rguns?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:16:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Small and odd ball? Anything interesting or that might have made it on the open market? Quick change barrels 10mm collapsable that worked Built the first 6.8 and 6.5 Creedmor Can't remember all the stuff |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:16:43 PM EDT
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Are all ARs pretty much the same? Is parts just parts? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:16:43 PM EDT
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Do you still have the password for the DPMS arfcom account?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:17:39 PM EDT
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So in late 2012 I purchased a DPMS .22lr upper that was made in collaboration with Nordic Components. Are parts going to be available for it in the future? Mainly the BCG that is modeled similar to a 10/22. It is a wicked little upper and very accurate. Just need to balance out if parts are not available for the thousands of rounds myself and kids have run through it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:17:56 PM EDT
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Im trying to figure out thenprice difference between the BM and the DPMS. The BM kit is 40 bucks more for what appears to be the same gun. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:18:23 PM EDT
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Sad time. I only bought one DPMS, when Wal-Mart was unloading AR pattern rifles dirt cheap. This one has never been out of the box except to check the serial number when I bought it. It will never be worth a bunch on money, but one day one of my great grandchildren might say, "I never heard of DPMS". I will then educate them on the salad days. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/212055/DPMS1_jpg-1262263.JPG
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:18:25 PM EDT
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Sad to see it end. I’ve used at least 6 DPMS lower parts kits in different builds and NEVER had an issue. Good stuff at a reasonable price.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:18:53 PM EDT
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I own an Oracle and it's a great shooting gun. Super gritty trigger, but otherwise great. Zero malfunctions and surprisingly accurate. I hate to see DPMS go.
I'm glad you found a new job. Good luck and thanks for answering questions. This is very interesting! |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:20:34 PM EDT
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Why did they fuck up the G2 so badly? It could have been amazing but they never offered decent configurations or parts. 16” 243 Win? Really? Lol. No threading on half of them. Really?! I purposed to make all barrels threaded with adjustable gas blocks amongst other recommendations. When Remington took over it all changed. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:21:21 PM EDT
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Did Wanderlei Silva ever take a tour of the place when he was sponsored by DPMS?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:21:53 PM EDT
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Are there still kitty cat barrels in some closet waiting for CDNN to purchase? The other day someone from Bushmaster mentioned that warehouse FULL of parts, are there similar DPMS parts just sitting around too? Sad to see DPMS and Bushmaster go. They helped shape the current AR craze today. 
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:22:08 PM EDT
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Were you a gun guy before starting the job there? How'd you get the job? What did you like and dislike? Craziest or most annoying shot show story?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:24:01 PM EDT
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From my experience with your lpk's and as others mentioned, the DPMS triggers were very very gritty. Did DPMS ever make more refined triggers for other customers?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:24:19 PM EDT
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2) You had a reputation for lowers with tight magwells. I had 3. All were tight. I sold them all.
Why wasn't this fixed faster? Even Magpul mags. My Rock Rivers, on the other hand, are tight-ass bitches. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:26:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remington is restructuring and eliminated all "MSR's" 
Since they bought DPMS and Bushmaster and Remington started making camo AR's that seems unwise. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:26:19 PM EDT
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1) Why did they sell to Randy sold because we got too big too fast and he didn't want to run a company that big. Also he feared that the Democrats would put him out of business in 2008 2) You had a reputation for lowers with tight magwells. I had 3. All were tight. I sold them all.
Why wasn't this fixed faster? GI mags worked perfect but with the introduction on the Pmag we got the reputation of tight magwells. The Pmags were fat and the magwell was in spec but on the tight side. Other companies just oversized the well. Moving beyond the gun industry.....You said the company philosophy was to sell 'as good as, but cheaper'. Do you see this as a viable business model in general, or would it be easier/better, in general, to position yourself as selling a premium product, at a high price/margin? edited - I meant, why did DPMS sell to Remington? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:26:24 PM EDT
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They sold what they could and scrapped the rest. I think it was about a semi trailer full of parts. What was your best seller for contracts besides Kitty Kats? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:26:50 PM EDT
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They sold what they could and scrapped the rest. I think it was about a semi trailer full of parts. This makes me sad. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:27:43 PM EDT
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any idea how much randy walked away with?..and,have you ever met roger at rguns? I know Roger, his bad checks and his disgusting hookers. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:28:42 PM EDT
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Yes then relocated to HSV |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:28:59 PM EDT
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When did every A3 receiver stop getting Teflon exterior finishes, and what models kept the Teflon coat?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:29:21 PM EDT
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We did a bunch of the Kitty Kat's for the secret service and FBI. The LR308 for foreign militaries and a bunch of small contracts here and there. Before they changed the website we had the contracts listed IIRC Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who are some of the bigger agencies DPMS had contracts with? What years? Before they changed the website we had the contracts listed IIRC |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:29:43 PM EDT
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Did Wanderlei Silva ever take a tour of the place when he was sponsored by DPMS? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:30:58 PM EDT
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I always liked the company logo
 Even though this isn't related to DPMS, what do you think would happen to the ACR?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:33:31 PM EDT
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They sold the parts to CDNN at a loss so you figure it out. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:33:33 PM EDT
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Were you a gun guy before starting the job there? How'd you get the job? What did you like and dislike? Craziest or most annoying shot show story? Didn't like the laws and doing trade shows. We had a reputation after-hours at SHOT and a couple companies owners did not allow employees to hang out with us.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:34:53 PM EDT
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Why didn’t you answer questions in the industry forum?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:35:05 PM EDT
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Just wanted to say thank you for the great products. I only had one small issue that was corrected quickly by a great customer service person back in 09.
My products have been solid and continue to impress. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:35:24 PM EDT
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From my experience with your lpk's and as others mentioned, the DPMS triggers were very very gritty. Did DPMS ever make more refined triggers for other customers? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:35:38 PM EDT
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Do you see any path forward to bring back the company name?
Or do you think Remington will simply leave the industry and go back to making more fudd-ish stuff? (Not that that's a bad thing) |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remington is restructuring and eliminated all "MSR's" 
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