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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:59:41 AM EDT
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The vast majority of medical bills incurred in an average person's lifetime are incurred in the last two years of life as 80+ year-olds try to desperately cling to life at any price instead of accepting death as a natural part of life. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:00:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:01:24 AM EDT
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"Duur dem millenials just dont got loyalty, and dont deserve that money because they aint paid there dues and only people I assign social status to deserve it burp"
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:05:48 AM EDT
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I'll bet you will change your mind on this as you get closer to that time of your life. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The vast majority of medical bills incurred in an average person's lifetime are incurred in the last two years of life as 80+ year-olds try to desperately cling to life at any price instead of accepting death as a natural part of life. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:11:08 AM EDT
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coming into a job and making more than people who've been there for like 10-20 years lmaooo muh loyalty Just makes it easier to lay you off later. Welcome to the corporate culture you built... |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:14:52 AM EDT
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Yeah, that happened to my mom. She was pretty pissed when she found out the new hires she was training made more money than her (she worked there 20 years). In America it's taboo to discuss compensation, but if people did companies wouldn't have the upper hand to play these kind of games. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:15:05 AM EDT
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Here is a word millennial's will never know. Pension............. It makes a nice 5k addition per month to the nest egg. 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:17:44 AM EDT
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Younger gay porn stars always get paid more than the older ones.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:19:22 AM EDT
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First of all congrats 
Keep up or retire, many won't do this. At 46 I knew it was time to retire because at some point old dogs can't learn new tricks. And being retired at 46 is badass Just don't get cocky, old guys have been there and made the mistakes you may soon make. Keep bragging and they will let you fall on your face. Just a thank you and appreciation for all the great work plus a nice cardboard box for my things. Now I just have to figure out how to keep up this new schedule of mine. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:19:23 AM EDT
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coming into a job and making more than people who've been there for like 10-20 years lmaooo muh loyalty No one like an arrogant prick. Especially one that brags about how much money they make. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:21:10 AM EDT
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Hahahahahahahaha! Not in the office I work in, rookie. Not even close. But thanks for the post interview laughs.  
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:21:12 AM EDT
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And they have many years left to go. We Boomers are already retired or are about to! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is a word millennial's will never know. Pension............. It makes a nice 5k addition per month to the nest egg. Some pensions are better run than other but pensions can go away. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:21:16 AM EDT
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Thanks for my SS OP.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:26:59 AM EDT
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millennials are the idiocracy generation
they will make it a reality 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:39:55 AM EDT
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I'm not sure millennials will miss pensions. With a 401k (or equivalent) or IRA, it's my money and I can invest it according to my own risk profile and retirement timeline. I don't have to worry about the company or pension fund going bankrupt, the PBGC being underfunded, or the pension being modified detrimentally post-retirement. Personally, I'll take a decent 401k match with low ER investment options over a pension any day of the week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is a word millennial's will never know. Pension............. It makes a nice 5k addition per month to the nest egg. Personally, I'll take a decent 401k match with low ER investment options over a pension any day of the week. 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:42:02 AM EDT
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You would be wrong. The goal of life is to live a good life, not to live as long as possible. I have a family and grandsons that I don't want to leave. Hopefully you do also. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:52:26 AM EDT
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Here is a word millennial's will never know. Pension............. It makes a nice 5k addition per month to the nest egg. I have been with the company 5yrs now. Like the OP I make more than 95% of employees here. Most of them have been with the company longer than I have been alive. All of them have been here 30+ yrs. i also get to work in a nice air conditioned lab while they work in a hot plant Some next to huge heat treat ovens. I know it pains you guys to think how you caused the millennial situation but you handed out way to many participation trophies. You really fucked up your kids and possibly the country. Luckily I grew up in the woods for the first half of my life. Maybe a few of us will save this place. As soon as YOUR generation and YOUR politicians die off will wil get to work on a problem you caused but cannot/will not fix. Enjoy our social security assholes. ETA. Although I have the AC and the money i don't feel as if I am better than anyone here. I would get hit with something hard and heavy if I went in the back and told a manual machinist how to do his job. Luckily I like to learn. They enjoy teaching someone younger who is open to learning. Then I show them how a young guy does it faster and better 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:03:54 AM EDT
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The correct answer is to get both and throw a Roth IRA on top of it. RR retirement will just be extra gravy. Investing 12% +1%additional for each year working into my 401k, maxed my roth for this year and invested in some mutual funds. I am 24. As long as the market holds, retirement will be great. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:04:49 AM EDT
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So you got a degree and make more than the people that don't. Big fucking deal, happens all the time.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:09:32 AM EDT
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Here is a word millennial's will never know. Pension............. It makes a nice 5k addition per month to the nest egg. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:09:43 AM EDT
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i will blame late 90s/early 00s IM for this That's how I learned to type as well. You've had almost 20 years to fix your fuckup and you haven't. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:12:34 AM EDT
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As a fellow millennial, can we trade you for someone else like in the NFL or MLB? No one like an arrogant prick. Especially one that brags about how much money they make. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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coming into a job and making more than people who've been there for like 10-20 years lmaooo muh loyalty No one like an arrogant prick. Especially one that brags about how much money they make.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:17:52 AM EDT
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That's how I learned to type as well. You've had almost 20 years to fix your fuckup and you haven't. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:18:34 AM EDT
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Enjoy it while you can.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:19:40 AM EDT
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Since we're talking about project management, I feel the diagram below is pertinent. Learn it well, and apply these teachings to your career.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:22:54 AM EDT
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Since we're talking about project management, I feel the diagram below is pertinent. Learn it well, and apply these teachings to your career. https://www.managersareheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Thrown-Under-the-Bus-Co-worker-throws-teammate-under-the-bus-What-should-you-do-now.jpg and yes, under the bus they will go |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:24:59 AM EDT
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......and you might be the first to go!
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:27:32 AM EDT
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good. Now you can afford a case for all of your participation trophys |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:38:29 AM EDT
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Damn, there's a lot of salt in here. Geez
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:43:19 AM EDT
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I know that word. Born in 85. Not sure what gen I am. It's also overfunded at the moment so if any pension makes it until I retire this one has a chance. I have been with the company 5yrs now. Like the OP I make more than 95% of employees here. Most of them have been with the company longer than I have been alive. All of them have been here 30+ yrs. i also get to work in a nice air conditioned lab while they work in a hot plant Some next to huge heat treat ovens. I know it pains you guys to think how you caused the millennial situation but you handed out way to many participation trophies. You really fucked up your kids and possibly the country. Luckily I grew up in the woods for the first half of my life. Maybe a few of us will save this place. As soon as YOUR generation and YOUR politicians die off will wil get to work on a problem you caused but cannot/will not fix. Enjoy our social security assholes. ETA. Although I have the AC and the money i don't feel as if I am better than anyone here. I would get hit with something hard and heavy if I went in the back and told a manual machinist how to do his job. Luckily I like to learn. They enjoy teaching someone younger who is open to learning. Then I show them how a young guy does it faster and better Also if you brag about having AC at your job you have set your goals too low in life. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:43:28 AM EDT
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"Oregon Trail" Millennial here. I put in 13 years with a major aerospace company, and would have retired from there if it weren't for the unethical safety of flight issues that myself and others couldn't get corrected. Luckily my wife and I started real estate investing during the crash, so I could afford to leave what I had worked so hard to achieve in 2016. I'm 33 and the only one I know that had a 401K and pension. I now have rolled that over into an IRA, and I'm not bragging, but the amount I have there could buy a pretty nice house in my area.
It sounds like you're doing well, OP, but life will deal you blows. Don't just walk around being cocky, but keep your head down, mouth shut, and listen to what some of the old timers can teach you. Be ready to use that stubbornness when it's needed. You're just a pup, you likely don't even know the lay of the land where you work yet. You have no idea who the enemies really are. Although it didn't end the way I would have liked, I wouldn't trade those 13 years for anything. I learned about life and people there. I started at 19 as a temp, and by the time I quit I was the youngest Quality Assurance Inspector (started at 29) they had ever had. Not because I was cocky, but because I learned my job and worked my ass off. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:44:33 AM EDT
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yeah you're not my supervisor |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:57:55 AM EDT
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Pro tip: Those old guys don't really like you. Also if you brag about having AC at your job you have set your goals too low in life. My goals are also where they need to be. I love my job and will happily work here for the next 30yrs. Do you enjoy working? I do. AC thing Wasn't a brag. Just an observation. Beats standing in a 90° shop next to a 1200° heat treat oven. Eta: you get out what you put in. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:07:05 PM EDT
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I am sure that the projects you are managing are going to be very successful. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:17:31 PM EDT
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LOL. Your smugness will be the end of your career if you don't watch it.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:17:44 PM EDT
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Good for you. Now show up for work and show a little humility....You are not gods gift. The propensity for your generation is to quit jobs immediatley if you are not 100 % satisfied. So you are being watched and talked about more than you can imagine. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:18:25 PM EDT
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Highest paid cashier at Circle K?
It's just 'cause the night shift manager wants to get inside your skinny jeans, maybe grad hold of your man bun and put you to work on a "special project." |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:18:32 PM EDT
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To me, the bigger problem is not the pensions, it's the medical costs at the end of life. The vast majority of medical bills incurred in an average person's lifetime are incurred in the last two years of life as 80+ year-olds try to desperately cling to life at any price instead of accepting death as a natural part of life. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:29:51 PM EDT
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This is really a silly comment. People cling to life no matter how young or old they are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To me, the bigger problem is not the pensions, it's the medical costs at the end of life. The vast majority of medical bills incurred in an average person's lifetime are incurred in the last two years of life as 80+ year-olds try to desperately cling to life at any price instead of accepting death as a natural part of life. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:30:30 PM EDT
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You would be wrong. The goal of life is to live a good life, not to live as long as possible. You are absolutely right about our society spending too much on elderly medical care, but if you believe tat you will resolutely choose death over medical bills someday, well... I think that you are not as wise as you think. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:31:39 PM EDT
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So, just a variation of not sorry you're so wonderful?
Fantastic.... |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:37:44 PM EDT
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They can quit. Go on with your pity party elsewhere. This is America after all. ETA: even though I do agree OP could have more humility... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mocking hardworking Americans for being under-compensated versus a Millenial full of himself is a dick move FYI. This is America after all. ETA: even though I do agree OP could have more humility... |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:39:08 PM EDT
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it is not silly when it is factually correct. Current EOL medical costs are staggeringly huge and fiscally unsustainable for the government/taxpayers. People are going to use the health resources available to stay alive as long as possible. That will never change so long as the decision making power continues to reside with the individual. Once the government starts making the call as to who gets support or not, you've crossed over into that ugly area that we recently fought a global war over. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:41:16 PM EDT
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Mommie gave him a bump in his allowance.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:45:29 PM EDT
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So I've read this thread and I have no idea what a "Project Manager" is or does.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:54:04 PM EDT
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This isn't helping my image of all millennials being retards.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:14:10 PM EDT
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Millennial here and been with the company 15 years. A newb might come in and make more than me, but they don't have the political connections or the relationships I do. These clowns come in with their big ideas. Guess what? No one who matters gives a shit about your vision because they've never heard of you, and without me your ideas will never get infront of anyone who matters. Then I go home and code something of my own to relieve the creativity itch. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:14:15 PM EDT
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You know them? We get along pretty well. Enough for beers and cranking out 80%ers together on lunch. My goals are also where they need to be. I love my job and will happily work here for the next 30yrs. Do you enjoy working? I do. AC thing Wasn't a brag. Just an observation. Beats standing in a 90° shop next to a 1200° heat treat oven. Eta: you get out what you put in. Which was a brag. Like being assigned to a job in an AC area somehow makes you smarter or better. I've worked in plenty of shops and have seen the same thing all over. You work in a manufacturing facility in the rust belt. I wouldn't count on making 30 years. Call it a hunch. As for enjoying working I work for myself now which means I have an asshole for a boss. Its good you are successful at your job but some free advice from a guy who was in your same spot twenty years ago: Manage your money, don't buy stupid shit, get as much education/certifications as you can on the company dime and be ready when the hammer falls. History says it will. Good luck. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:17:44 PM EDT
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Fight for fifteen really worked out for you, huh?
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:18:57 PM EDT
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I haven't seen many cases where it pays to stick with the same company for your entire career nowadays.
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