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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:41:04 PM EDT
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I may be wrong but I thought I read that you receive 50% of your mothers DNA and 50% of your fathers. Their DNA is also split 50% from their parents. There is a chance that one great grandparent could be 100% Native American but you may not receive any of their DNA depending on which 50% your parents/grandparents receive.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:41:16 PM EDT
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Oh Lord, I see your in Bama. Is the tribe in question the Echota "nation"? They are notorious for signing up anyone that wants membership. Everyone in Alabama thinks their grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee and these yahoos are more than happy to capitalize on that to fund their Indian LARPing. Of course they're not federally recognized and their response to that is that the federal government wants to save a buck and therefore doesn't want to give them their benefits.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:52:28 PM EDT
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In the South, everyone seems to think they are at least "1/8th Cherokee". Very few DNA tests bear that out. I know because-- and you can't make this up-- there is an entry in one of our family Bibles that has genealogy in it showing who married who, etc. that only lists one of my great x ? grandfathers as "married a damned Indian." In a family BIBLE. As for what blood means, as an adoptive parent, I contend that it means nothing. Heritage is the values that you are raised with from generation to generation. Even if I do have a drop of Indian blood, I am no more an Indian as I am a grapefruit. On the other hand my adopted son is the direct descendant of a captain in the South Carolina Volunteer Militia that found the Revolutionary War. My son is the next in line to inherit the same values of a man that named his own son "Liberty." |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:53:40 PM EDT
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Happy St Patrick's day!
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:57:11 PM EDT
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My mom is like your mother in law. I decided to have fun and roll the dice and get her and I tested. For my amusement. She was 54 percent and my cracker ass was 27%.  I stopped teasing her about that one thing after that.  "Native small a american" doesn't always mean American Indian |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:59:09 PM EDT
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Stolen privilege, they should scalp her.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:02:51 AM EDT
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Oh Lord, I see your in Bama. Is the tribe in question the Echota "nation"? They are notorious for signing up anyone that wants membership. Everyone in Alabama thinks their grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee and these yahoos are more than happy to capitalize on that to fund their Indian LARPing. Of course they're not federally recognized and their response to that is that the federal government wants to save a buck and therefore doesn't want to give them their benefits. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:03:58 AM EDT
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Two reason. 1- Cherokees were larger and more willing then other tribes to intermarry with whites so a lot of mix race marriages happened. 2- Cherokee was a SouthEastern tribe so it was a convenient excuse for mixed race Southerners to claim to be part Cherokee to avoid being considered black ("I can vote and own land. I'm part Cherokee, not black"). More socially acceptable to say Great Grandpa married a indian princess then to admit that he was fucking his slaves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why is it always Cherokee? There are other tribes.  the code word from the old geezers for wanting bang a black chick was "going native" or "going Indian".
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:13:36 AM EDT
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Haha! She's responded and my wife told her to ask for her money back on her "Indian Card"
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:18:35 AM EDT
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the code word from the old geezers for wanting bang a black chick was "going native" or "going Indian". |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:21:35 AM EDT
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Lol. My wife's family (black) has the great-grandmother was Indian story. I ran their genealogy and great grandmother was the result of a wealthy white male knocking up his servant girl. Great grandmother was listed as mulatto in the census and I guess they adopted the Indian story to cover up the affair. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the code word from the old geezers for wanting bang a black chick was "going native" or "going Indian".I thought everyone knew that "Indian Ancestor" meant "Black". Guess not. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:31:36 AM EDT
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She looks exactly like the results. Mom sounds nuts.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:34:17 AM EDT
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Tatanka
Buffalo Kickin Buuurd |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:41:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Oh Lord, I see your in Bama. Is the tribe in question the Echota "nation"? They are notorious for signing up anyone that wants membership. Everyone in Alabama thinks their grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee and these yahoos are more than happy to capitalize on that to fund their Indian LARPing. Of course they're not federally recognized and their response to that is that the federal government wants to save a buck and therefore doesn't want to give them their benefits. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:58:24 AM EDT
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Why is it always Cherokee? There are other tribes. I do know that my Great, Great, Great Grandmother was a full blooded Blackfoot. My feet seem honkey though. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:58:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNah...Laina's a Texan. Close, but not close enough.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:16:11 AM EDT
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I'm pure Cracker same with my wife so no checks for us
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:34:48 AM EDT
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OP's wife is Not Guilty. And yeah...she looks like Laina's twin.
We just found out my wife is Native American but that was no big surprise. Her parents are from Cuba and Nicaragua. 27% Iberian (we know which relatives came from Spain) 16% Native American (we already chose a traditional name - Dances with Beagles) 7.3% Sub-Saharan African (Muslim occupation of Spain?) 4% East Asian (Yakut from Siberia - it shows in her eyes) 3% Great Britain 1.7% Italian Short list of others each about 1% to include Korean, Sardinian, etc. There was only 3.9% unassigned There was another 25% Iberian (unspecified) but thats Spain and Portugal so not much of a mystery there. She contacted 23 And Me to ask about Native American but they responded there still needs to be a lot more phenotyping of Central America to further identify individual tribes, so couldn't give more specific information. My wife and daughter superimposed - we always wondered about the eyes. Mystery solved.  Attached FileHey OP, I found one of your first dating videos....  Breaking Up with Overly Attached Girlfriend |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:48:08 AM EDT
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I may be wrong but I thought I read that you receive 50% of your mothers DNA and 50% of your fathers. Their DNA is also split 50% from their parents. There is a chance that one great grandparent could be 100% Native American but you may not receive any of their DNA depending on which 50% your parents/grandparents receive. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:53:25 AM EDT
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So the MIL is Elizabeth Warren?
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:57:26 AM EDT
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Seriously trace their family back to Confederate veterans and sign all their asses up for the sons and daughters of the CSA respectively. Give them the acceptance letter and a folded battle flag for Christmas Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This just keeps getting better.. she's not returning texts about the matter at this point. The BEST part is now that we are digging into the website a little deeper, it actually "links" her to her queer uncle that has pushed all this bullshit. His ancestry profile seriously has a picture of him in his damn Indian costume and his DNA results listed... Non of which show Native American. Here's a screenshot of "Chief Big Lie". https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116858/XCamera-20170821_221027-287001.JPG |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:57:59 AM EDT
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I found out I'm about half Irish and half Dutch
and about 0% native American |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 2:03:10 AM EDT
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In the South, everyone seems to think they are at least "1/8th Cherokee". Very few DNA tests bear that out. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 2:11:01 AM EDT
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Don't you have to get a males DNA results that is related to her to get the true results. You can't just get her straight up DNA results as far as I know unless something changed.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 2:12:33 AM EDT
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My dad told me that his Grandmother was full blood native american, but was an orphan so they never registered her. Not sure how accurate that is and I don't know what tribe off-hand (Im sure it was Cherokee right? lol).
However, I just did a DNA test through ancestry as well and ZERO native american in mine as well.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 2:34:29 AM EDT
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That's true. My wife has a great-grandfather from Austria (he married a Spaniard and moved to Nicaragua) but nothing from that part of Europe showed up in her profile. She reached out to 23 And Me with a lot of questions. They responded pretty quickly and confirmed what you just said. Her mother is going to get tested (Austrian comes from her side of the family) so we'll see what shows up. For all we know the Austrian wasn't really an Austrian. We'll see. 
My dad's background is "German" and Czech & Slovak - from all the testing he's had done it appears most of the "German" is actually Polish thanks to Prussia's borders compared to today. The Czech/Slovak looks to be more Austrian than anything... The biggest thing I have an issue with these DNA tests are just how they come up with the labels - migration and borders over the last few millennia are pretty wonky when you try to place a label on someone. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 3:06:01 AM EDT
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In the South, everyone seems to think they are at least "1/8th Cherokee". Very few DNA tests bear that out. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 3:16:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2017 3:23:21 AM EDT
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Is Elizabeth Warren your wife's Aunt?
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Posted: 8/22/2017 4:32:56 AM EDT
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Tell her mom to take the test also. I bet it comes up zero too.
Lie-a-watha.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:28:17 AM EDT
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@Ironhandjohn Middle Tennessee is full of fakes like her, and is one of the reasons why I hold them all in contempt. American Indian LARP'ing is pretty funny, though. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:31:00 AM EDT
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She's beautiful. Good job, OP.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:35:22 AM EDT
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wife was told her grandmother was born on the rez in Oklahoma and there are documents to prove it, letter from mid wife..
grandma, her mother and the wife all grew up with the knowledge they were part of the First Peoples... but little proof but for the letter from the midwife.. wife had her DNA done last year... zero, zip, nada not one drop of Native blood..nor Asian of any flavor...90% great britian and 7% eastern European 3% mutt.. I have 3% Hispania, told her I'm more "native American" than she is.. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:42:41 AM EDT
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So her mom is an Indian Outlaw? Not Cherokee or Choctaw? Her daddy wasn't Chippewa?
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:46:26 AM EDT
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Tldr: Wife was led to believe her entire life she was Native American by crazy mother... Ancestry DNA test says "that is a lie" Ok, here's the long version. My wife has been hounded relentlessly by her Obama loving, Trump hating, Socialist mother to fill out an application to be accepted to the local spin off tribe of the Cherokee's. Her main reasoning behind this is so that she can "get a check" when there's finally an Indian casino here ????. We generally try to overlook the MIL's crazy, but I saw the perfect chance to shut her down...and the gamble paid off. The wife's DNA results came back today and guess what?? NONE, NOT ANY Native American DNA. 55% Scandinavian, 14% Ireland, 11% Italy/Greece, 10% Iberian Peninsula, and 9% Great Britain. Oh what a happy day! Her mother is a "card carrying" member of the tribe and goes to their pow wows and assorted other shenanigans. Just had to share one of my small victories tonight, and yes I know the rules... So I've posted a picture of her cracker ass below. She would have been the whitest Native American I'd ever seen ?? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116858/received_10213720074137396-286968.JPG Crazy Commie MIL might still be right. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:51:48 AM EDT
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My mother is real big on her Native American heritage. So much that it's one of the reasons they don't cut my nephews hair, "he's Native American". Hopefully the kid doesn't end up identity issues. While her test showed 20% that is probably mostly from Mexico even though we have a X great grandmother on the Dawes roll. To become a member of my the Muskogee Creek you only need to be a direct descendant of someone on the Dawes roll and all generations birth certificates. It doesn't matter how much.
And not guilty OP! |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:57:48 AM EDT
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Why is it always Cherokee? There are other tribes. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:04:27 AM EDT
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Quote History First thing I thought of but I wasn't going there!
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:24:36 AM EDT
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In for the "my wife just found out she was adopted. AMA
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:27:35 AM EDT
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In the South, everyone seems to think they are at least "1/8th Cherokee". Very few DNA tests bear that out. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:30:25 AM EDT
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I'll make a wild guess that a spin-off tribe is 100% posers, not a native amongst them.
These recent reemerged extinct tribes of whites in the NE are probably the same. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:30:43 AM EDT
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I always find it hilarious that people who are obviously not native American pretend to be native American.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:32:30 AM EDT
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the code word from the old geezers for wanting bang a black chick was "going native" or "going Indian".Gotta catch um all. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:50:34 AM EDT
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My dad told me that his Grandmother was full blood native american, but was an orphan so they never registered her. Not sure how accurate that is and I don't know what tribe off-hand (Im sure it was Cherokee right? lol). However, I just did a DNA test through ancestry as well and ZERO native american in mine as well. I wonder how many family lines got skewed from the days when it was common to take in stray kids or those from neighbors that died. No bothersome government paperwork, that didn't solve anything and just brought complication that no one but a busybody cared about. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:56:05 AM EDT
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Drop the dime to the tribe on her SJW fauxcahontas commie mommy |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:56:58 AM EDT
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lol I was just thinking this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why is it always Cherokee? There are other tribes. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:59:27 AM EDT
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We were always told that my great great grandfather married a Cherokee woman. It's was found by my cousin when he was researching. I took it with a grain of salt. I also have been told I was Italian.
Well... 80.7% Irish/English (I've always been told I look very Irish) 0% Italian .04% Native American The bulk of the rest is Northwestern European - Northwestern Europeans are represented by people from as far west as Ireland, as far north as Norway, as far east as Finland, and as far south as France. Now where's my check and casino? (J/K) 
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:59:42 AM EDT
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You do know how DNA works right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now to trick MIL into doing the same thing and get her kicked out of the tribe! You do know how DNA works right?
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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:00:29 AM EDT
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In for the "my wife just found out she was adopted. AMA "My MIL has claimed "Indian" blood all her life. Said her grandmother was full blooded Cherokee. (MIL is Lilly white as were her parents) My wife got her DNA done and she has zero Indian blood. MIL immediately concluded that she must have been adopted and her parents never told her 
She didn't want to entertain the idea that the family Indian story was bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:00:33 AM EDT
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we were told the same thing our whole life, "so and so's great-grandmother was a native american" ancestry says "nah, bra"
the whitest guy i know is a card-carrying member of the cherokee nation. he used it to get into UT when his HS grades weren't that great, and then again to get into dental school after his grades at UT sucked. |
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