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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:05:53 AM EDT
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Trail of Tears. That's why.
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Why is it always Cherokee?
There are other tribes.
Trail of Tears. That's why.
Cult of Victimhood 10 generations removed.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:06:35 AM EDT
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That's true. My wife has a great-grandfather from Austria (he married a Spaniard and moved to Nicaragua) but nothing from that part of Europe showed up in her profile. She reached out to 23 And Me with a lot of questions. They responded pretty quickly and confirmed what you just said. Her mother is going to get tested (Austrian comes from her side of the family) so we'll see what shows up. For all we know the Austrian wasn't really an Austrian. We'll see.
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I may be wrong but I thought I read that you receive 50% of your mothers DNA and 50% of your fathers.  Their DNA is also split 50% from their parents.  There is a chance that one great grandparent could be 100% Native American but you may not receive any of their DNA depending on which 50% your parents/grandparents receive.
That's true. My wife has a great-grandfather from Austria (he married a Spaniard and moved to Nicaragua) but nothing from that part of Europe showed up in her profile. She reached out to 23 And Me with a lot of questions. They responded pretty quickly and confirmed what you just said. Her mother is going to get tested (Austrian comes from her side of the family) so we'll see what shows up. For all we know the Austrian wasn't really an Austrian. We'll see.
I was confused as to how two siblings could have totally different results from the spit test.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:08:18 AM EDT
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I'm 1/32nd Cherokee royalty.

Now where's my money?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:09:02 AM EDT
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I may be wrong but I thought I read that you receive 50% of your mothers DNA and 50% of your fathers.  Their DNA is also split 50% from their parents.  There is a chance that one great grandparent could be 100% Native American but you may not receive any of their DNA depending on which 50% your parents/grandparents receive.
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For single, specific gene mutations, that is generally correct.  But here they are checking for many genetic markers specific to Native Americans.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:11:55 AM EDT
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Lot of white privilege in that DNA Report.

No woodpile action at all

My daughter wants me to get one of those test .

I am happy just the way I am.

Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:13:57 AM EDT
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Switched at birth?
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Or, plot twist, wrong baby daddy.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:16:32 AM EDT
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In the South, everyone seems to think they are at least "1/8th Cherokee".  Very few DNA tests bear that out.
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Yep. I've been hearing that all my life.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:35:08 AM EDT
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Ask 100 people to name an Indian tribe and I bet you will have your answer.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:42:53 AM EDT
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lol I was just thinking this.
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lol I was just thinking this.
IT'S A JEEP THING
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:48:36 AM EDT
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I always find it hilarious that people who are obviously not native American pretend to be native American.
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Some chick of facebook sent me a friend request. She it as white as it gets and is constantly going off about indian stuff. Fucking hilarious to watch.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 8:57:16 AM EDT
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I know a guy who was told all his life there was native blood in him and his family. Turns out they're Mexican. 
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1/16 here.  

And no, I couldn't care less about joining any Tribe.  I do enjoy the casino occasionally in Cherokee, NC though.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:07:49 AM EDT
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Maybe from pointy elbows as she put it on? OP, that's a funny story. Ask MIL if she adopted her daughter...
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:26:03 AM EDT
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Congratulate your SJW mother in law for having slave owning ancestors who fought for The Confederacy.





Confederate Cherokee reunion



Then apply for a card from the non-recognized Cherokee tribe she thinks she belongs to and when you're also a tribal member, you should smoke the peace pipe with her.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:30:17 AM EDT
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When people tell me,
" Hey, I have Indian in me too, my great great so and so was Indian!"
I usually tell them, " Cherokee huh?!"

They'll nod or ask how I knew , oblivious to fact that I just insinuated they're a dumbass 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:32:28 AM EDT
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Switched at birth?
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Or adopted.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:46:49 AM EDT
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I know a guy who was told all his life there was native blood in him and his family. Turns out they're Mexican. 
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Most Mexicans have some "native small a american" ancestry. The commercial DNA testing services can't tell the difference between that and "American Indian"
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:19:00 AM EDT
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Most Mexicans have some "native small a american" ancestry. The commercial DNA testing services can't tell the difference between that and "American Indian"
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The only difference between a Mexican and an "American Indian" living on a reservation are White made borders.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:32:06 AM EDT
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didn't you guys learn anything from the TV show .

Eli was adopted into the tribe



Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:34:08 AM EDT
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Bunch of cracker-ass crackers in here. 

I grew up in the capital city of the Cherokee Nation.  A bunch of very white looking people are Cherokee, partially because they didn't seem to mind interbreeding as much. 

Everyone was a freaking Cherokee Princess. 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:36:25 AM EDT
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Most tribes don't get checks like they used to.  The ones here make like $50-100/month and they have a casino.
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Clearly he's a member of the Irish Indian tribe....
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Genetically doomed to become an alcoholic. Sad.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:40:34 AM EDT
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Your wife is beautiful and you are a lucky man.


DNA tests are funny like that.
We discovered that my mom is 100% "European" including 29% German (majority) which is what we expected
We discovered that my dad has no native American in his DNA despite family claims.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:44:58 AM EDT
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Most tribes don't get checks like they used to.  The ones here make like $50-100/month and they have a casino.
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The Cherokees have always been poor.  Doubt that has changed.

When the Creeks rolled out the first casinos in Tulsa they were raking in some serious cash and the checks they were sending out were really good.  It is my understanding this caused a lot of people to start signing up on the rolls.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:45:18 AM EDT
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Is your wife related to Elizabeth Warren by chance?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:54:04 AM EDT
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Genetically doomed to become an alcoholic. Sad.
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Clearly he's a member of the Irish Indian tribe....
Genetically doomed to become an alcoholic. Sad.
'Yup, broken knuckles and dead livers are not desirable traits to pass down.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 10:55:57 AM EDT
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This.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 11:18:02 AM EDT
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The only difference between a Mexican and an "American Indian" living on a reservation are White made borders.
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The offspring of Spanish explorers and indigenous Mexicans are identical to transient asians?

They certainly don't look the same.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 12:48:35 PM EDT
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I have a brother in law who married a 100% native american.  His wive's family believe that his oldest son is part wolf.  They believe it literally - no joke, no "spirit animal" stuff - they believe he is truly part wolf.  Not much different than how Catholics believe that the communion wine literally turns into the blood of Christ, I guess. But it's interesting. I don't think Ancestry.com tests for that.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:17:02 PM EDT
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I know a guy who was told all his life there was native blood in him and his family. Turns out they're Mexican. 
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Mexico has minor minorities, but speaking broadly there are three kinds of Mexicans --  full blooded Indians,  full blooded European-descended (Spaniards or many others) and the majority who are to some degree mixed.

If your guy has Mexican ancestry, he is likely correct, he is partly native North American.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:21:15 PM EDT
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The only difference between a Mexican and an "American Indian" living on a reservation are White made borders.
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Ummm....

No.

"Mexicans" could be Indians, physically and culturally, or they could be Mexicans, with modern Hispanic Mex culture and some native DNA.

The Tohono O'odham tribe in southern Arizona has members on both side of the border and have special legal status with regard to the border and there are US citizen members born of Mex parents in Mexico.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:23:22 PM EDT
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Because Cher sung about them in the 70s ....  
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:28:57 PM EDT
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If my great grandmother on my Daddy's side was Cherokee, what's that make me? (Obviously injun' in the pics, but I never met her)

100% Comanche??

Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:32:33 PM EDT
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Why do people want to have Indian blood in them?  My wife is card carrying member and grew up on the reservation.  We get a check every year from the tribe.

However she hates them.  She says they are the most ignorant backwards and racist people you will ever meet.  To this day she hates being partial Indian.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:33:03 PM EDT
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So much truth to this.  White trash especially.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:34:45 PM EDT
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I may be wrong but I thought I read that you receive 50% of your mothers DNA and 50% of your fathers.  Their DNA is also split 50% from their parents.  There is a chance that one great grandparent could be 100% Native American but you may not receive any of their DNA depending on which 50% your parents/grandparents receive.
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Except it isn't like 2 coin flips both ending up heads or tails, it would be like 10 BILLION coin flips ALL ending up heads on the same day.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:37:49 PM EDT
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Central Band of the Cherokee Nation?
Those are ALL cracker ass wannabes.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:39:10 PM EDT
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It would be amusing if the MIL turned out to be partially Native American and his wife was adopted.

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Or "Granddad" was native American and Grandmom went "off the reservation" ... lol


FWIW family member found an OLD 1860's photo B&W photo at grandparents house, asked about it and found out it was our first ancestor from Scotland in the US when he was about 25-30 and his bride(wedding day), she looked "dark, like Indian or Mexican" though my 23 and me suggests that around 1830's one of my ancestors was born... 50% African American...  (FWIW grandpa uses terms like "ni**er rig it" to mean jury rig)
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:41:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:43:57 PM EDT
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Well I am full blood Mardi Gras Indian..  No seriously .......
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:45:40 PM EDT
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Here in Oklahoma, it was all the blacks who claimed to be Cherokee "Freed Men", descendants of black slaves the Cherokees owned who were supposed to enjoy the same benefits that tribal members received.

It got so bad the Cherokee Nation put a stop to it a few years ago and declared the freedmen were no longer tribal members.

I think that lasted about 5 minutes while all the "rich and vibrant" Cherokees found themselves a liberal activist federal judge. (they didn't have to look long or hard.)

PS: Since you asked, I'm Choctaw and Cheyenne.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:53:34 PM EDT
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Agreed.  It always seems to be Cherokee.  My great grandmother was full blooded Creek.  Creeks had a bad reputation in south Alabama.
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Agreed.  It always seems to be Cherokee.  My great grandmother was full blooded Creek.  Creeks had a bad reputation in south Alabama.
See, I figure that's part of why my in-laws divorced... FIL is part Cherokee (had to verify it to keep from losing a government job once), MIL is part Creek...  Wife meets the Federal percentage requirements to claim it, but since she wasn't raised in the traditions of either one, she just uses it to shut down SJW's and it's let former employers boost their minority employee numbers.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:53:41 PM EDT
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Ummm....

No.

"Mexicans" could be Indians, physically and culturally, or they could be Mexicans, with modern Hispanic Mex culture and some native DNA.

The Tohono O'odham tribe in southern Arizona has members on both side of the border and have special legal status with regard to the border and there are US citizen members born of Mex parents in Mexico.
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The only difference between a Mexican and an "American Indian" living on a reservation are White made borders.
Ummm....

No.

"Mexicans" could be Indians, physically and culturally, or they could be Mexicans, with modern Hispanic Mex culture and some native DNA.

The Tohono O'odham tribe in southern Arizona has members on both side of the border and have special legal status with regard to the border and there are US citizen members born of Mex parents in Mexico.
I read somewhere else on here that the federal definition of "hispanic" (Mexican/Chicano/Latino) is Native American plus Iberian Penninsula (Spain or Portugal). I and a lot of people I am apparently related to on AncestryDNA seem to fit that description to varying extents. My mother's family is from southern Colo. and northern New Mexico.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:06:56 PM EDT
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There are a lot of phony American Indian groups that issue worthless "cards".

If the mother in law isn't an actual tribe member her bullshit card is meaningless anyway.


She needs to prove her family's heritage to be accepted as a real member of an actual tribe.

https://www.archives.gov/research/native-americans/dawes/tutorial/intro.html

http://www.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal-Citizenship
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Thanks for the URLs.  They reminded me I have some work to do.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:31:37 PM EDT
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Why was I summoned? I'm like the Saturday morning cartoon Godzilla, there had better be a good reason to push the IHJ-button.

Middle Tennessee is full of fakes like her, and is one of the reasons why I hold them all in contempt. American Indian LARP'ing is pretty funny, though.
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Why was I summoned? I'm like the Saturday morning cartoon Godzilla, there had better be a good reason to push the IHJ-button.

Middle Tennessee is full of fakes like her, and is one of the reasons why I hold them all in contempt. American Indian LARP'ing is pretty funny, though.
This is my uncle. When he moved to Oregon from Indiana suddenly he became 100% American Indian. Even his own mother (my grandmother, RIP) made fun of him for it. 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:02:28 PM EDT
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What if i self identify as an attack helicopter?

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Is your MIL Fauxahauntis?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:29:55 PM EDT
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What if i self identify as an attack helicopter?

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If that was an Apache, we'd have to get more specific: Chiricahua, Mescalero, Jicarilla, Lipan, Plains, Navajo, or Western?

Comanche band names include Nokonis, Tenawa, Tanima, Yamparikas, Kwahadis, or Jupe, Whakoh, titchahkaynah, Pibianigwai, Motso, and more. (Wikipedia knows All)

But really, paint your rotors however you wish. Just avoid the Stingers.
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There's actually a genealogy requirement before the tribe elders will consider your application.  Her and her mother both passed that requirement.  Just goes to show that great grandpa chief 10 beers may have just been full of shit.
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