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Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:07:12 PM EDT
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I guess there is a perception that the military runs things like the Romans?

The UCMJ covers many things and does have legal recourse, though it is all packaged for military expediency to a degree.

Part of the "dictatorship in defense of democracy" experience.
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most people don't know that the service members' right to remain silent and right to be warned that whatever he says can be used against him under the UCMJ existed before those rights were enshrined for the general population by SCOTUS in Miranda v. Arizona.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:07:39 PM EDT
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Damn dude, didn't you watch A Few Good Men?
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Only the good parts.

Rules of Engagement - America, Fuck Yeah!

Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:10:25 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

At any rate he was held and tortured by the enemy for 5 years. Further punishment seems pointless.
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looks like one member was missed with the birds of a feather comment.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:13:33 PM EDT
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Page 2 calls for death sentence.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:21:30 PM EDT
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looks like one member was missed with the birds of a feather comment.
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An organization well known for not taking prisoners held on to a PFC Nobody for 5 years, and we're supposed to believe that he was captured and held against his will?

Lol
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:25:55 PM EDT
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Not really.  A bench trial uaualy means it's a sure conviction, not my opinion but that of a prosecutor.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:28:12 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

At any rate he was held and tortured by the enemy for 5 years. Further punishment seems pointless.
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It is clear cut. I read every word of the transcript of his case. Too bad the enemy didn't kill him.


But, since he is alive and made it back to us, I think that he should be hung by the neck to gently choke in the wind, a needle stuck in his arm and poison started, and a firing squad should squeeze their rounds off. I don't really care wether the rope, needle or bullets finishes him off.

Then all the brothers of those who were lost or injured in his search should be permitted to desecrate his body at will.

And that's just off the top of my head. I could get inventive if I took a bit to think about it. Probably ought to use a KA-BAR, too.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:36:07 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

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He is and was a fucking traitor, he consorted with the enemy and is a first class douche bag.

I think he has taken a trial by Judge because his counsel knows that if he is tried by a jury his chances of being convicted are close to 100%.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:38:41 PM EDT
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He needs to be tried and sentenced by men that have been in combat.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 4:51:28 PM EDT
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blather, blather, blather..
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Your opinion is noted, like dogshit on my shoe.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:21:34 PM EDT
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An old legal saying: "Never trust your life to twelve people that are too stupid to figure out how to get out of jury duty."
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:31:19 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

At any rate he was held and tortured by the enemy for 5 years. Further punishment seems pointless.
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I listened to Serial. Here's my two cents:

Even if you believe EVERYTHING Bergdahl says, he 1. Abandoned his post, 2. Cost the US a shit ton of money, 3. Cost people their lives. Now there's a big IF he cost other soldiers their lives, but as was laid out on the onset, a DUSTWUN requires everyone to stop what they were doing and look for him. If a soildier was in village B when he would have otherwise been in village A and he got shot and/or killed, it's on Bergdahl. If an OP was supposed to be shut down or get reinforcements and that didn't happen, and it gets attacked and people killed, that's on Bergdahl. Additionally, the mil took a lot more chances with raids looking for him. So yes, he did get people killed.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:37:33 PM EDT
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Page 2 calls for death sentence.
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Is death penalty even on the table?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:40:25 PM EDT
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Birds of a feather..........and all that.
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I'm sure Top Secret and pgaplayerless think he's a hero
Birds of a feather..........and all that.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:40:40 PM EDT
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Not really.  A bench trial uaualy means it's a sure conviction, not my opinion but that of a prosecutor.  
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In this case, a jury (panel) is certain conviction
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:54:28 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

At any rate he was held and tortured by the enemy for 5 years. Further punishment seems pointless.
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What was your MOS?

I listed to his squad mates.  All I need to hear.  Fuck that guy.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:56:12 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

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Bullshit. He cost good people their lives.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 5:57:30 PM EDT
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So when does he make a porn with bradley manning?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:01:48 PM EDT
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So when does he make a porn with bradley manning?
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So long as its a snuff film, I would probably watch it...
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:04:56 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

At any rate he was held and tortured by the enemy for 5 years. Further punishment seems pointless.
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Now this post has no Ranger Avatar but your other other does. What's up with that?  I simply can't believe, that if you did in fact serve in Ranger Regiment, that you would write such a stupid fucking statement. "Further punishment seems pointless"? Are you fucking kidding me? Serious fucking question. Men died because of this traitor. He deserves nothing less than death.

Edit: It was the guy answering you that has the scroll, not you. Now your answer makes more sense. I have to assume that you have zero military service, hence are clueless as to the gravity of this man's crime.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:07:31 PM EDT
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Now this post has no Ranger Avatar but your other other does. What's up with that?  I simply can't believe, that if you did in fact serve in Ranger Regiment, that you would write such a stupid fucking statement. "Further punishment seems pointless"? Are you fucking kidding me? Serious fucking question. Men died because of this traitor. He deserves nothing less than death.

Edit: It was the guy answering you that has the scroll, not you. Now your answer makes more sense. I have to assume that you have zero military service, hence are clueless as to the gravity of this man's crime.
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The fuck are you talking about?

Edit: I was in the military, but that's all you're getting. Assume away.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:08:13 PM EDT
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Bullshit. He cost good people their lives.
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I believe there wasn't any evidence of casualties related to the search operations.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:14:07 PM EDT
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I believe there wasn't any evidence of casualties related to the search operations.
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You believe ?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:14:56 PM EDT
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I believe there wasn't any evidence of casualties related to the search operations.
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Bullshit ! Members of his own unit were wounded looking for him.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:14:59 PM EDT
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The fuck are you talking about?

Edit: I was in the military, but that's all you're getting. Assume away.
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Well, we can assume that you're a fucktard, so there's that.

Fuck that podcast, Bergdahl is a fucking traitor, and it IS cut and dry. He deserves nothing but a noose or a bullet.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:15:45 PM EDT
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You believe ?
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The investigation didn't appear to have found any. Do you have different information?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:16:51 PM EDT
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Well, we can assume that you're a fucktard, so there's that.

Fuck that podcast, Bergdahl is a fucking traitor, and it IS cut and dry. He deserves nothing but a noose or a bullet.
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What information are you going by that brings you to that conclusion?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:17:27 PM EDT
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The investigation didn't appear to have found any. Do you have different information?
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I'm not a vet but This is good enough for me

Squad leader says if not for Bergdahl's desertion, the 6 soldiers would still be alive
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:17:31 PM EDT
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The fuck are you talking about?

Edit: I was in the military, but that's all you're getting. Assume away.
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Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:21:11 PM EDT
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What was your MOS?

I listed to his squad mates.  All I need to hear.  Fuck that guy.
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

At any rate he was held and tortured by the enemy for 5 years. Further punishment seems pointless.
What was your MOS?

I listed to his squad mates.  All I need to hear.  Fuck that guy.
My opinion is with the peers he served with.

Dudes a POS and should be shot or spend life in prison
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:21:19 PM EDT
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What information are you going by that brings you to that conclusion?
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He took his gear off and walked off fucking post in a warzone. He would not have remained a "POW" for so long if he had not been helping them, this is not exactly a leap in logic when EVERYONE ELSE captured by the same people gets their own vid with a quickness. His own dad has radical Islamic sympathies, not much of a stretch to believe that the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

But I'm sure its just a "misunderstanding" and he just went on a run (while on duty, without any of his gear) and got captured.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:22:31 PM EDT
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Why would he be getting a jury trial, he's subject to the UCMJ, is he not? What part of that involves a jury?
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A whole lot of in your post.

Do you not know how court-martials work?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:23:09 PM EDT
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I'm not a vet but This is good enough for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv_zdpFAGLM
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Honestly that's not conclusive at all, it's not even much of a statement.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:24:34 PM EDT
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The fuck are you talking about?

Edit: I was in the military, but that's all you're getting. Assume away.
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Bud, you're a great candidate for the ignore button.  Apparently you have no idea how stupid your comment sounds. No, it's not intelligent discussion. Nope, it's drivel. Liberal bullshit. Go back to DU , Hero.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:26:08 PM EDT
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Bud, you're a great candidate for the ignore button.  Apparently you have no idea how stupid your comment sounds. No, it's not intelligent discussion. Nope, it's drivel. Liberal bullshit. Go back to DU , Hero.
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Sure thing, tough guy.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:27:07 PM EDT
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A whole lot of in your post.

Do you not know how court-martials work?
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I actually don't.

Is the Jury made up of .mil members of his branch that are his "peers"?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:27:14 PM EDT
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I hope he gets hung
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:28:53 PM EDT
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Sure thing, tough guy.
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Lol. You have no idea, hero. Take your bullshit and peddle it elsewhere.  I also throw the bullshit flag on you having served. Bergdahl should die.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:29:13 PM EDT
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You guys should listen to the Serial podcast about his case. It's not as clear-cut as you think. It sounds like he should never have been in the military to begin with due to mental and behavioral issues, but it really doesn't sound like he's a traitor or Taliban sympathizer.

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This is twice today I have seen really retarded comments in GD. Bergdal deserves to at the very least spend the rest of his life in jail. He is a deserter and a traitor. It is clear cut he deserted his post and gave the enemy information.  No matter what mental or behavioral issues he has it is no excuse. Do you think he is the only guy with a mental issue in the army ? No , but he is the only deserter.
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This is twice today I have seen really retarded comments in GD. Bergdal deserves to at the very least spend the rest of his life in jail. He is a deserter and a traitor. It is clear cut he deserted his post and gave the enemy information.  No matter what mental or behavioral issues he has it is no excuse. Do you think he is the only guy with a mental issue in the army ? No , but he is the only deserter.
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What are you basing your statement on?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:35:07 PM EDT
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What are you basing your statement on?
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Stop. Just stop. Why should anyone waste time answering your drivel when this has been beat to death for years. He's a fucking deserter in war who lent aid and comfort to the enemy. He became the enemy and remains the enemy today. They should put that fuck in a jail cell like Eddy the Monkey at the Buffalo zoo......3 concrete walls and a glass wall where school classes can go to see what a traitor looks like. Keep the florescent lights on 24/7 until he goes crazy and starts shitting in his hand and flinging it around. Then, and only then, maybe put him down. Put his cock-sucker father in there as well.

Do your own research, son and then come back and apologize for your drivel.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:38:15 PM EDT
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He must think he has a strong case to go this route.....
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Is that how it works?  I figured one would do something like that if, like this fucker, you could only find sympathy between "shit" and "syphilis" in the dictionary.  

Look at this thread, people HATE that piece of shit.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:38:42 PM EDT
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Stop. Just stop. Why should anyone waste time answering your drivel when this has been beat to death for years. He's a fucking deserter in war who leant aid and comfort to the enemy. He became the enemy and remains the enemy today.

Do your own research, son and then come back and apologize for your drivel.
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You guys are leaping to make low-information decisions. Berating me won't change that. I've been following the case and actually have done reading about it. I'm not saying he's completely innocent, but there's a large chance he's just a stupid, deluded kid with attention-seeking tendencies who shouldn't have been in the Army, but who isn't a traitor or defector.

Don't be an angry mob, that's so 16th century.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:39:42 PM EDT
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He took his gear off and walked off fucking post in a warzone. He would not have remained a "POW" for so long if he had not been helping them, this is not exactly a leap in logic when EVERYONE ELSE captured by the same people gets their own vid with a quickness. His own dad has radical Islamic sympathies, not much of a stretch to believe that the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

But I'm sure its just a "misunderstanding" and he just went on a run (while on duty, without any of his gear) and got captured.
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What information are you going by that brings you to that conclusion?
He took his gear off and walked off fucking post in a warzone. He would not have remained a "POW" for so long if he had not been helping them, this is not exactly a leap in logic when EVERYONE ELSE captured by the same people gets their own vid with a quickness. His own dad has radical Islamic sympathies, not much of a stretch to believe that the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

But I'm sure its just a "misunderstanding" and he just went on a run (while on duty, without any of his gear) and got captured.
This is my opinion

He deserted his comrades some of which died.

He ran away front his oath like a coward and left his peers to fight and die.

 I could care less if they were looking for him or not.

He swore a oath and should be punished for breaking it.

Does he deserve death? The Judge and God will decide his fate.

Either way I could give two shits if this coward dies or not.

Good men fought and died and this POS deserted them.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:42:18 PM EDT
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By definition, he is a deserter, and in wartime especially thats a big mistake.

We had a security forces guy fall asleep on guard duty. He went to jail. Thems the rules.

Personal responsibility is a foreign concept to liberals, so dont expect him to get it.
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This is twice today I have seen really retarded comments in GD. Bergdal deserves to at the very least spend the rest of his life in jail. He is a deserter and a traitor. It is clear cut he deserted his post and gave the enemy information.  No matter what mental or behavioral issues he has it is no excuse. Do you think he is the only guy with a mental issue in the army ? No , but he is the only deserter.
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You aint never seen a teener troll before?

It aint his first rodeo.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:45:05 PM EDT
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You guys are leaping to make low-information decisions. Berating me won't change that. I've been following the case and actually have done reading about it. I'm not saying he's completely innocent, but there's a large chance he's just a stupid, deluded kid with attention-seeking tendencies who shouldn't have been in the Army, but who isn't a traitor or defector.

Don't be an angry mob, that's so 16th century.
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Fuck that noise. I'm all about pitch forks and torches.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 6:46:22 PM EDT
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I does not matter who convicts him, in GD any punishment less than death won't be acceptable.
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Fuck that noise. I'm all about pitch forks and torches.
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And ropes.Don't forget the ropes.
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I want to see the Golden splat
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I lean toward sky diving with the Golden Knights, with out a chute.
I want to see the Golden splat
Burial at sea? Alive...
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