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Posted: 2/18/2016 11:28:10 PM EDT
Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass, he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc.
I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247 |
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I was looking for my fucks, but got distracted watching more videos of bombs falling.
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Strange, I would think cluster munitions were highly effective in cities...
In a religious war (which is how the jihadis see it) there are no noncombatants. |
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Strange, I would think cluster munitions were highly effective in cities... In a religious war (which is how the jihadis see it) there are no noncombatants. View Quote That's what I don't get... Most of the seem to hit the tops and sides of buildings. Maybe it's a psychological thing? |
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People today don't seem to realize what a real war looks like.
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That's what I don't get... Most of the seem to hit the tops and sides of buildings. Maybe it's a psychological thing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Strange, I would think cluster munitions were highly effective in cities... In a religious war (which is how the jihadis see it) there are no noncombatants. That's what I don't get... Most of the seem to hit the tops and sides of buildings. Maybe it's a psychological thing? From that angle you won't see the ones that make it to the ground, but yeah... Sides, tops, bottoms of buildings.... I bet you would not want to be there when they hit |
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The "non combatants" will be ready to fight in a very few short years.
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America has lost the will to win a war.
We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people............. We haven't won a war since. |
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FWIW, the description states the town is at the front line and empty.
I'm ambivalent about it. Would it be any less mean to use 2000 JDAMS? |
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Cluster bombs are second best bombs. View Quote Aren't a lot of our nukes targeted in a "cluster" fashion? That is, five warheads per target: one each to the north, south, east, west, and one in the middle, all to explode simultaneously? Seems like I read that somewhere way back. I remember it made me go: |
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America has lost the will to win a war. We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people............. We haven't won a war since. View Quote Have you ever considered running for office? "If elected, I promise our nation will burn women, children, and old people until we are great once more..." |
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This. The news is showing starving children in FSA controlled towns talking about how bad the humanitarian crisis is. Starving children make great news. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Don't start shit, there won't be shit. This. The news is showing starving children in FSA controlled towns talking about how bad the humanitarian crisis is. Starving children make great news. If we bomb them they won't be able to complain about being starving |
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Getting shit done, that's what that is. Russia don't care.
We'll see how effective it is. I certainly wouldn't want to be the recipient of those drops. Got to be in the walls to avoid that. |
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Psyops. Keeps everybody inside and destroys the TV dishes. All day. Inside. No TV. Or internet. Cruel.
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Those cities are practically emptied of anyone but combatants.
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Quoted: Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass, he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc. I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247 View Quote I wonder if there were any noncombatants in Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?
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Have you ever considered running for office? "If elected, I promise our nation will burn women, children, and old people until we are great once more..." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America has lost the will to win a war. We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people............. We haven't won a war since. Have you ever considered running for office? "If elected, I promise our nation will burn women, children, and old people until we are great once more..." He'd get my vote. |
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America has lost the will to win a war. We used to fire bomb and burn to death women, children and old people............. We haven't won a war since. View Quote https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II |
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Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass, he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc. I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247 View Quote We can either fight the civilians there, or we can fight them here. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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If they run, they're ISIS,
If they don't run, they're well disciplined ISIS. |
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My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force.
I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have. |
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Russia isn't getting shit done they are throwing shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks. They suck at targeting there is a time and place to use ICMs and a lot of the time they fuck it up. Speaking as someone who has had to clean up a few cluster bombs using the wrong ordnance on a target can give you bad to no effect and make it worse in the long run.
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Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all. No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't: <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s2.postimg.org/v16yjtyrt/image.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force. I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have. Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all. No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't: <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s2.postimg.org/v16yjtyrt/image.jpg</a> Yes. Thats the nature of wars. You better win them if you dont want to die. |
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The usa is an absolute hypocrite nation.
It's not a good thing |
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Russia isn't getting shit done they are throwing shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks. They suck at targeting there is a time and place to use ICMs and a lot of the time they fuck it up. Speaking as someone who has had to clean up a few cluster bombs using the wrong ordnance on a target can give you bad to no effect and make it worse in the long run. View Quote The SAA has made gains for the first time in a long time, essentially encircling Aleppo. Their involvement has not been a game changer on the ground, but it has been helpful no doubt. The political implications are more important anyway. |
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Quoted: Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all. No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't: http://s2.postimg.org/v16yjtyrt/image.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My grandpa's B-17 dropped tons of bombs all over occupied Europe with the Eighth Air Force. I'm sure some of them killed civilians, I'm also sure he never lost any sleep over it, nor should he have. Yeah, it's perfectly o.k. if the U.S. kills civilians by the hundreds of thousands, but if someone else does it then it's a "war crime." If the Germans had fire bombed American cities like we did Dresden and others there wouldn't have been enough rope in Europe to hang them all. No point getting up on your hind legs caterwauling about it: it's 100% true. That's the thing about killing civilians: if you're going to do it, you'd better win the war, because if you don't: http://s2.postimg.org/v16yjtyrt/image.jpg So you're saying my grandpa deserved to be hanged? But he got a pass because we won the war? If it's 100% true then why was it that when the Germans lost, I don't seem to recall the Brits demanding the rounding up of every Luftwaffe aircrew that was on a Heinkel, Junkers or Dornier during the Blitz so they could string them all up in 1945? |
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Russia has different ROE's than we do. When they fight a war, they fight to exterminate.
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Needs moar Bears and carpet bombing.
Can't have an insurgency if no one is there to be insurgent. |
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We also happen to be way better at hitting exactly what we want than we used to be.
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Fuck civcas! Don't want to get killed, leave the area the combatants are occupying.
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Quoted: Quoted: Fuck civcas! Don't want to get killed, leave the area the combatants are occupying. If they let you. |
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well they should fight back instead of running off to Europe or rolling over like the pussies they are. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck civcas! Don't want to get killed, leave the area the combatants are occupying. If they let you. I'm talking about places like Ramadi where Isis blocked off the egress routes and the IA had to open them up while other units advances from a different direction. We provided the precision firepower. Even then the place looks like shit we just didn't kill as many non combatants. |
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Yeah yeah, I know, Putin is a badass, he has the will to win and we are soft etc. etc. I have to believe there are noncombatants in the areas being bombed right now. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b01_1455557247 View Quote ISIS hides / shields them self behind civilians. In Irag the ROE (IIRC) was to avoid destroying mosque. Some "leader" holed up in one for 3-4 weeks, taking shots at US forces. Knowing the U.S would not level the mosque, bad press and all that PC shit. These fuckers blow up bazaars for practice, not giving a fuck who gets killed or maimed. You want to play softball, go ahead. Terrorism isn't or will never be a conventional war. |
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