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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:27:56 PM EDT
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ONLINE SIR!
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:30:14 PM EDT
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OK, but what is the point, assuming there even is a point. What does this practice accomplish? I haven't the foggiest idea. I have never seen this done before either... It maybe it is so that when you draw next to your spouse or child you learn not to sweep them in the moment...but still seems WTF |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:31:20 PM EDT
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Are they really shooting live rounds past each others' shoulders? No way that could go wrong!
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:31:57 PM EDT
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Maybe someday I willl be able to work at OPOTA. I've heard that this is this is the Ohio House of Knowledge. Of course if the truth was told their instructors are are abunuch of ass clowns Little practical experience. And they know they cant dispute me.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:33:34 PM EDT
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No way. This is all just some kind of joke or stupid staged pic...right?
Can we have the name of the "trainers" Facebook page? I'd like to troll a little lol. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:35:42 PM EDT
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John Foys class????
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:36:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:41:01 PM EDT
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I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Found one of their students!  I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Oh look! Another teener telling me what's what. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:41:14 PM EDT
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Okay don't go to their webpage and read the bio's. http://muzzlefront.com/jason-wyman/ http://muzzlefront.com/muzzle-front/robert-higgins/ Links left cold but holy crap that's umm...not much in the way of qualifications to be doing training. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:41:37 PM EDT
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No way. This is all just some kind of joke or stupid staged pic...right?
Can we have the name of the "trainers" Facebook page? I'd like to troll a little lol. facebook.com/muzzle.front Edit: It looks like they've deleted their derptastic stuff, though. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:44:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Found one of their students! I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Sup 7n6? |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:48:49 PM EDT
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Found one of their students! I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Sup 7n6? Or was it Dindu_Nuffin? |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:50:32 PM EDT
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Found one of their students! I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Sup 7n6? You aren't the 1st to call him out on this. We will see if indeed he is familiar. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:57:07 PM EDT
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Crossfit!
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:57:20 PM EDT
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http://muzzlefront.com/jason-wyman/ http://muzzlefront.com/muzzle-front/robert-higgins/ Links left cold but holy crap that's umm...not much in the way of qualifications to be doing training. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Okay don't go to their webpage and read the bio's. http://muzzlefront.com/jason-wyman/ http://muzzlefront.com/muzzle-front/robert-higgins/ Links left cold but holy crap that's umm...not much in the way of qualifications to be doing training. Drop leg mag carrier... Fohawk...15lbs AR... Badges, Medics in black, and coyote tan oh my. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:59:04 PM EDT
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Basically a good way to tell is how they do a malfunction drill. If they say anything besides, "Tap, rack, bang" then leave. Don't even stand around to watch. By the time he starts showing you his awesome side tactical super whopper can-do mag flip/super side charger racking finger magwell banging move you'll be halfway home. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It can be difficult for new people to spot bad training. If you're new, how are you supposed to know which grip is good and which isn't? Basically a good way to tell is how they do a malfunction drill. If they say anything besides, "Tap, rack, bang" then leave. Don't even stand around to watch. By the time he starts showing you his awesome side tactical super whopper can-do mag flip/super side charger racking finger magwell banging move you'll be halfway home. To be fair they can say more than just that. But you are right that tap/rack/bang is the first drill to perform. Followed by mag out/rack/new mag/rack/bang |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or was it Dindu_Nuffin? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Found one of their students! I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Sup 7n6? Or was it Dindu_Nuffin? Get both  |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:38:30 PM EDT
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Drop leg mag carrier... Fohawk...15lbs AR... Badges, Medics in black, and coyote tan oh my. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Okay don't go to their webpage and read the bio's. http://muzzlefront.com/jason-wyman/ http://muzzlefront.com/muzzle-front/robert-higgins/ Links left cold but holy crap that's umm...not much in the way of qualifications to be doing training. Drop leg mag carrier... Fohawk...15lbs AR... Badges, Medics in black, and coyote tan oh my. "The Viking" 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:38:45 PM EDT
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Jason “The Viking” Wyman Daily Philosophy: “My new life begins in 24 hours and it’s going to be amazing…Just watch”
With 4 years as a medic in the military, Jason served with a ground unit in Iraq and later transferred to an aviation unit. He’s worked with all types of ground forces from around the globe until his return home in 2007. After his military service, Jason then attended college and was the first MA in Maine General history to go from a clinical setting to and operating room, providing continuance of care from point of injury to long term follow up. When he is not instructing he provides services for the Department of Veterans Affairs and is a contracted medic to a local National Guard unit. Jason has dedicated his life to training and leading others who wish to follow. His stated goal has been to break into the tactical industry as an instructor and leave his personal mark on the industry. He is Realty Based Training certified through USKMA and is working toward several additional certifications including his TCCC to train contractors aspiring to go abroad. At least with his medical background he can stay with them from the range to the ER then OR then ICU. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:42:23 PM EDT
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As far as the grip discussion here. I agree with the thumbs fwd grip, BUT to be fair I seem to remember a guy that shot with the "tea cup"
grip winning (or the top 5?) the "top shot" competition. He was given all sorts of crap about it, but he was an excellent shot. ETA: "the viking"? I guess he read the "enemies" books too. lol |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:48:46 PM EDT
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As far as the grip discussion here. I agree with the thumbs fwd grip, BUT to be fair I seem to remember a guy that shot with the "tea cup" grip winning (or the top 5?) the "top shot" competition. He was given all sorts of crap about it, but he was an excellent shot. ETA: "the viking"? I guess he read the "enemies" books too. lol A TV show huh? Well that settles it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 12:10:31 AM EDT
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To be fair they can say more than just that. But you are right that tap/rack/bang is the first drill to perform. Followed by mag out/rack/new mag/rack/bang Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It can be difficult for new people to spot bad training. If you're new, how are you supposed to know which grip is good and which isn't? Basically a good way to tell is how they do a malfunction drill. If they say anything besides, "Tap, rack, bang" then leave. Don't even stand around to watch. By the time he starts showing you his awesome side tactical super whopper can-do mag flip/super side charger racking finger magwell banging move you'll be halfway home. To be fair they can say more than just that. But you are right that tap/rack/bang is the first drill to perform. Followed by mag out/rack/new mag/rack/bang Some agencies call it tap, rack, reacess. They're trying to break the mindset that you're gonna automatically pull the trigger after clearing a malfunction. You might very well pull the trigger immediately, but then again you might not. I'm not a fan of such trivial semantics but they sure make a big deal out of it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 12:29:52 AM EDT
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As far as the grip discussion here. I agree with the thumbs fwd grip, BUT to be fair I seem to remember a guy that shot with the "tea cup" grip winning (or the top 5?) the "top shot" competition. He was given all sorts of crap about it, but he was an excellent shot. ETA: "the viking"? I guess he read the "enemies" books too. lol A TV show huh? Well that settles it. yes, have you heard of TV? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 12:33:14 AM EDT
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As far as the grip discussion here. I agree with the thumbs fwd grip, BUT to be fair I seem to remember a guy that shot with the "tea cup" grip winning (or the top 5?) the "top shot" competition. He was given all sorts of crap about it, but he was an excellent shot. ETA: "the viking"? I guess he read the "enemies" books too. lol A TV show huh? Well that settles it. yes, have you heard of TV? Reality TV shows are largely BS. That includes Top Shot. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 12:36:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Because there's a right way to do shit and there are plenty of ways to do it wrong. Most people with that idiotic "it works for me" mentality think they're as accurate as they'll ever be with a handgun. I've trained guys who've been shooting for 20 years with the "it's what's comfortable for me" grip and a few minor adjustments cut their group sizes in half or better. Some folks settle for mediocre accuracy without realizing how easy it is to improve. They've never been shown how because they're too busy saying "well this works for me..." instead of shutting up and taking some valuable advice. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 12:40:09 AM EDT
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As far as the grip discussion here. I agree with the thumbs fwd grip, BUT to be fair I seem to remember a guy that shot with the "tea cup" grip winning (or the top 5?) the "top shot" competition. He was given all sorts of crap about it, but he was an excellent shot. ETA: "the viking"? I guess he read the "enemies" books too. lol A TV show huh? Well that settles it. yes, have you heard of TV? Reality TV shows are largely BS. That includes Top Shot. competition shows that have money on the line are usually legit when it comes to the actual competiton |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 12:44:09 AM EDT
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I don't know what the hell I am looking at.
 The only reason I clicked was because of who posted it. The SSS gif was a nice touch... (Sonny Spetsnaz Spin). |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 12:59:23 AM EDT
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Exhibit A: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=78153 Apart from the blatant nonsense that is obvious, take a look at the grip these students have. It's fucking terrible. So here's one of JW777's helpful hints on obtaining training: If an outfit teaches this kind of gay shit instead of fundamental skills like how we properly grip a handgun, it's an indication that they aren't a good place to spend money. Surviving a Mexican Standoff? When the can hits the ground they all open up. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:00:55 AM EDT
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Because there's a right way to do shit and there are plenty of ways to do it wrong. Most people with that idiotic "it works for me" mentality think they're as accurate as they'll ever be with a handgun. I've trained guys who've been shooting for 20 years with the "it's what's comfortable for me" grip and a few minor adjustments cut their group sizes in half or better. Some folks settle for mediocre accuracy without realizing how easy it is to improve. They've never been shown how because they're too busy saying "well this works for me..." instead of shutting up and taking some valuable advice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Because there's a right way to do shit and there are plenty of ways to do it wrong. Most people with that idiotic "it works for me" mentality think they're as accurate as they'll ever be with a handgun. I've trained guys who've been shooting for 20 years with the "it's what's comfortable for me" grip and a few minor adjustments cut their group sizes in half or better. Some folks settle for mediocre accuracy without realizing how easy it is to improve. They've never been shown how because they're too busy saying "well this works for me..." instead of shutting up and taking some valuable advice. "It's worked so far for us" ended up getting the Japanese asses kicked at Midway, as they had been getting lucky with some of the stupid shit they were doing. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:05:44 AM EDT
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Okay don't go to their webpage and read the bio's. Oh. Dear. Their top guy's resume is that he has " instructional experience" |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:07:28 AM EDT
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I don't even know what to say to that. I do. Stupid people suck and I hate them. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:12:12 AM EDT
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Okay don't go to their webpage and read the bio's. Oh. Dear. Their top guy's resume is that he has " instructional experience" Oh, they have Costa working with them? 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:22:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:26:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:34:01 AM EDT
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hay guys i was just thinking about ow everyone's all like "LIFE IS LIKE AN FPS WITHOUT A RESPAWN LOL" but sometimes the admin just sets respawn delay to be WAY TOO LONG, so it sorta seems like there's no respawn, and you kinda forgot you're playing the game until suddenly you're out in the open and soom AUG whore ganks you and I think this could be it because even if a bunch of cavemen did respawn and were all like "HOW I BUY CLUB" just now, we'd probably put them in insame asylums or they'd join up with terrorists or something so no one would really notice until we get, like, the black plague respawn in a billion years and on top of that sometimes nobody respawns until one team wins the match so maybe what we did wrong was breed too fast, so the match went on and on before one team could kill the other and now all we gotta do is finish off the other team and there'd be like A GOOGOPLEX RESPAWNS and everyone'd be all like "GG lol" but most of 'em would be sarcastic because they've been in observer mode with jesus for trillions of years and the whole time they were like "HE'S BEHIND THE FUCKING BOX". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." hay guys i was just thinking about ow everyone's all like "LIFE IS LIKE AN FPS WITHOUT A RESPAWN LOL" but sometimes the admin just sets respawn delay to be WAY TOO LONG, so it sorta seems like there's no respawn, and you kinda forgot you're playing the game until suddenly you're out in the open and soom AUG whore ganks you and I think this could be it because even if a bunch of cavemen did respawn and were all like "HOW I BUY CLUB" just now, we'd probably put them in insame asylums or they'd join up with terrorists or something so no one would really notice until we get, like, the black plague respawn in a billion years and on top of that sometimes nobody respawns until one team wins the match so maybe what we did wrong was breed too fast, so the match went on and on before one team could kill the other and now all we gotta do is finish off the other team and there'd be like A GOOGOPLEX RESPAWNS and everyone'd be all like "GG lol" but most of 'em would be sarcastic because they've been in observer mode with jesus for trillions of years and the whole time they were like "HE'S BEHIND THE FUCKING BOX". What the fuck? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:35:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:51:47 AM EDT
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Okay don't go to their webpage and read the bio's. http://muzzlefront.com/jason-wyman/ http://muzzlefront.com/muzzle-front/robert-higgins/ Links left cold but holy crap that's umm...not much in the way of qualifications to be doing training. My son it better qualified just playing endless hours of CoD than this viking.?? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:54:57 AM EDT
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I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Found one of their students! I can't wait for school to start all these retarded post by children will stop. Wait I mean, obviously if he uses what works for him he must be a fool. I mean bro, if you don't use tier one tactical shit all day every day you deserve to be ridiculed. Lol |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:52:03 AM EDT
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." hay guys i was just thinking about ow everyone's all like "LIFE IS LIKE AN FPS WITHOUT A RESPAWN LOL" but sometimes the admin just sets respawn delay to be WAY TOO LONG, so it sorta seems like there's no respawn, and you kinda forgot you're playing the game until suddenly you're out in the open and soom AUG whore ganks you and I think this could be it because even if a bunch of cavemen did respawn and were all like "HOW I BUY CLUB" just now, we'd probably put them in insame asylums or they'd join up with terrorists or something so no one would really notice until we get, like, the black plague respawn in a billion years and on top of that sometimes nobody respawns until one team wins the match so maybe what we did wrong was breed too fast, so the match went on and on before one team could kill the other and now all we gotta do is finish off the other team and there'd be like A GOOGOPLEX RESPAWNS and everyone'd be all like "GG lol" but most of 'em would be sarcastic because they've been in observer mode with jesus for trillions of years and the whole time they were like "HE'S BEHIND THE FUCKING BOX". What the fuck? Pretty sure that's copy pasta. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:04:21 AM EDT
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Case in point:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1757284_Well_lookey_here__another_Tactical_training_company__________.html And in my AO, there is quite the variety of this type of nonsense. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:10:08 AM EDT
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Too much goofy training eh?
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:12:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryBwahahahaahahah! 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:34:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:38:45 AM EDT
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HAHA TIME TO OPERATE! http://new4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Operator+as++_dde8146b7a7ae96baa2aeedc75ca38c3.gif What. The. Fuck. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:40:57 AM EDT
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The ladie is the only one with a proper thumbs forward grip. What makes one grip more "proper" than another? I have seen unconventional grips (for me) and that person was nailing target time after time. Couldn't call it "improper" when it'd kill a bad guy more dead than I could have managed with the "proper thumbs forward grip." Found one of their students!  . Yep.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:42:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:46:54 AM EDT
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I have never seen this done before either... It maybe it is so that when you draw next to your spouse or child you learn not to sweep them in the moment...but still seems WTF Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have never seen this done before either... It maybe it is so that when you draw next to your spouse or child you learn not to sweep them in the moment...but still seems WTF The stated goal was supposed to be muzzle discipline...but to quote a much wiser man than I: An erstwhile Capt. Man-TAS-tic got Good Idea Fairy-ed, justified his brain-droppings on the basis of some analogue of "outside the box" + some jargony Yeager/Pincus pseudoscience, all the while forgetting that looking IN the box, first, might just reveal a simpler answer (presuming that there was even a question asked in the first place).
Lovin' Martin Riggs the Cable Guy, at the top right. The fact that unfucking that shitshow BEFORE going to the exotics is a neon sign that screams "outcome-based" vice "performance-based." *Let's hit all the bullet points on this abortion of a syllabus I conjured, in the time-frame that's convenient for me. Whether or not they actually learn fuck-all about fundamentals.....shiiiiit, I gots PAID.* |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:48:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:16:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:29:34 AM EDT
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In Please attend my summer tactical pool home defense course. http://whatgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/funny-gifs-why-do-i-have-to-move-if-i-have-a-gun.gif Um, I got one of those in my backyard right now... 
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