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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:46:24 PM EDT
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It's some fucked up shit but how many laws do we need on the books???
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:47:27 PM EDT
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Agreed, completely messed up, but you will have a difficult time proving the person knowingly did it.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:47:31 PM EDT
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It's some fucked up shit but how many laws do we need on the books??? So you should be able to expose someone to a disease without consequences? |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:47:51 PM EDT
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Don't we have enough laws already?
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:47:52 PM EDT
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Don't we have enough laws already? It's already a law in some cases. HIV for instance ... already been successfully prosecuted as "attempted murder" in cases where the infected partner knew but did not tell the other person about the condition. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:48:14 PM EDT
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Agreed, completely messed up, but you will have a difficult time proving the person knowing did it. Zach In some circumstances it would be hard, but if you have AIDS and are on antiretrovirals it would be easy to prove. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:49:00 PM EDT
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For HIV it's not just illegal - it's an attempted murder charge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For all you players. For HIV it's not just illegal - it's an attempted murder charge. Did not know that. Good. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:50:13 PM EDT
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legislating morality will never work. don't misunderstand me though. Someone does that deserves to get raped with a pine cone backwards
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:51:11 PM EDT
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legislating morality will never work. don't misunderstand me though. Someone does that deserves to get raped with a pine cone backwards Legislating morality works all the time. Murder is immoral, therefor it is illegal. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:51:50 PM EDT
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Did not know that. Good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For all you players. For HIV it's not just illegal - it's an attempted murder charge. Did not know that. Good. Yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_transmission_of_HIV ETA: apparently not "attempted murder" in the US, but "criminal transmission of HIV". Which apparently isn't just based on sex but also donating infected body parts, including blood. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:52:19 PM EDT
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& yet people still do it
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:52:40 PM EDT
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I think most states already have "criminal transmission of an STD" laws on the books
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:52:48 PM EDT
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How would you sleep with someone unknowingly? Sleep sex?
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:52:52 PM EDT
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So you should be able to expose someone to a disease without consequences? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's some fucked up shit but how many laws do we need on the books??? So you should be able to expose someone to a disease without consequences? Along the line of the anti-vaccine Luddites. No societal responsibility. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:54:09 PM EDT
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& yet people still do it People still murder and steal, better take those laws off of the books! They are obviously useless! |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:55:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How would you sleep with someone unknowingly? Sleep sex? English is fucking hard yo.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:55:19 PM EDT
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Yes. Knowingly and intentionally transmitting a disease to someone else should be a crime.
Good luck proving intent though. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:56:31 PM EDT
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Legislating morality works all the time. Murder is immoral, therefor it is illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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legislating morality will never work. don't misunderstand me though. Someone does that deserves to get raped with a pine cone backwards Legislating morality works all the time. Murder is immoral, therefor it is illegal. What about MRSA? Influenza? Herpes Type I? If you don't want to get infected by other humans, go live in a cabin in the woods. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:58:22 PM EDT
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Along the line of the anti-vaccine Luddites. No societal responsibility. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's some fucked up shit but how many laws do we need on the books??? So you should be able to expose someone to a disease without consequences? Along the line of the anti-vaccine Luddites. No societal responsibility. Yeah........ This thread and the "vaccination nazis" one should get together and spread some lovin' around. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:58:26 PM EDT
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your right, more laws & government are surly the answer. My thoughts are find said person who does the infecting and treat them accordingly. I just can not look at anything this legal system does and say yes we need more of that. some may disagree, it is your right to do so
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Posted: 1/16/2015 7:59:02 PM EDT
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For all you players. 
Don't date whores! |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:02:35 PM EDT
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What about MRSA? Influenza? Herpes Type I? If you don't want to get infected by other humans, go live in a cabin in the woods. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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legislating morality will never work. don't misunderstand me though. Someone does that deserves to get raped with a pine cone backwards Legislating morality works all the time. Murder is immoral, therefor it is illegal. What about MRSA? Influenza? Herpes Type I? If you don't want to get infected by other humans, go live in a cabin in the woods. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Intent. That's what you are looking for. If I'm thinking "That C-4 dude is a real dick and I hate him. I have MRSA, the flu and the herp and a plan" Then I call you up and say "HEY C-4! Wanna come drink beers and wrestle like the gladiators used to?" 3 days later you are in the hospital. My intent was to put you in the hospital. You think thats ok? Or is it all on you because wrestling like the gladiators used to was a dumb thing to do. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:02:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't we have enough laws already? This is always my first thought as well, but not telling someone you have an STD is fucked up. Even something that you can get rid of with antibiotics. Some STDs will fuck up the rest of your life. This is one place where I wouldn't mind a new law.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:06:25 PM EDT
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Can we rename this thread "So who sleeps with people, even though they have an STD" to properly show what we'll learn here?
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:06:55 PM EDT
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It's some fucked up shit but how many laws do we need on the books??? I'm guessing it probably IS illegal most places, or could be prosecuted under an existing law (like assault). State by State Laws on Transmitting an STD |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:07:51 PM EDT
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imo yes as it can do harm to the other person.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:12:02 PM EDT
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What did you catch OP?
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:54:58 PM EDT
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Here's some facts for ya. 1 in 6 people in the US have Genital Herpes and up to 75% of population or more has the virus in one form or other. So how many people have you slept with that told you they had herpes? If you've slept with 5 people or more did any of them tell you? Because odds are at least one of them was infected... Or.... Another question for you. How many of you posting have Herpes and have had sex with someone without telling them you had it. Genital or not. You can still infect someone... So anyone feeling honest out there? (and yes I know this is just one STD. But its the most common one out there so any takers?)
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:56:15 PM EDT
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Here's some facts for ya. 1 in 6 people in the US have Genital Herpes and up to 75% of population or more has the virus in one form or other. So how many people have you slept with that told you they had herpes? If you've slept with 5 people or more did any of them tell you? Because odds are at least one of them was infected... Or.... Another question for you. How many of you posting have Herpes and have had sex with someone without telling them you had it. Genital or not. You can still infect someone... So anyone feeling honest out there? (and yes I know this is just one STD. But its the most common one out there so any takers?) SexyVixen? really? You couldn't come up with a name that, ya know, blended in a little better? |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 8:59:27 PM EDT
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I think it should be a crime, no new law needed, it is a form of assault.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:01:47 PM EDT
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Here's some facts for ya. 1 in 6 people in the US have Genital Herpes and up to 75% of population or more has the virus in one form or other. So how many people have you slept with that told you they had herpes? If you've slept with 5 people or more did any of them tell you? Because odds are at least one of them was infected... Or.... Another question for you. How many of you posting have Herpes and have had sex with someone without telling them you had it. Genital or not. You can still infect someone... So anyone feeling honest out there? (and yes I know this is just one STD. But its the most common one out there so any takers?) Wow, join date and 1st post. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:09:22 PM EDT
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Tatoo the biohazard symbol on them.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:11:01 PM EDT
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It can be a civil battery. While the sex was consensual, there was no consent to contract a STD. Methinks there have been suits along this line.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:11:09 PM EDT
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Yes, misdemeanor assault.
I don't play, but always expected honesty |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:11:39 PM EDT
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SexyVixen? really? You couldn't come up with a name that, ya know, blended in a little better? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's some facts for ya. 1 in 6 people in the US have Genital Herpes and up to 75% of population or more has the virus in one form or other. So how many people have you slept with that told you they had herpes? If you've slept with 5 people or more did any of them tell you? Because odds are at least one of them was infected... Or.... Another question for you. How many of you posting have Herpes and have had sex with someone without telling them you had it. Genital or not. You can still infect someone... So anyone feeling honest out there? (and yes I know this is just one STD. But its the most common one out there so any takers?) SexyVixen? really? You couldn't come up with a name that, ya know, blended in a little better? Definitely a guy. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:15:47 PM EDT
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It's already illegal... depending on the std it could be anything from assault to attempted murder...
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:22:51 PM EDT
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Intent. That's what you are looking for. If I'm thinking "That C-4 dude is a real dick and I hate him. I have MRSA, the flu and the herp and a plan" Then I call you up and say "HEY C-4! Wanna come drink beers and wrestle like the gladiators used to?" 3 days later you are in the hospital. My intent was to put you in the hospital. You think thats ok? Or is it all on you because wrestling like the gladiators used to was a dumb thing to do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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legislating morality will never work. don't misunderstand me though. Someone does that deserves to get raped with a pine cone backwards Legislating morality works all the time. Murder is immoral, therefor it is illegal. What about MRSA? Influenza? Herpes Type I? If you don't want to get infected by other humans, go live in a cabin in the woods. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Intent. That's what you are looking for. If I'm thinking "That C-4 dude is a real dick and I hate him. I have MRSA, the flu and the herp and a plan" Then I call you up and say "HEY C-4! Wanna come drink beers and wrestle like the gladiators used to?" 3 days later you are in the hospital. My intent was to put you in the hospital. You think thats ok? Or is it all on you because wrestling like the gladiators used to was a dumb thing to do. Consensual contact should not be criminalized. If someone stabs you in the face with a syringe full of their AIDS blood, then they should be charged. That isn't consensual. Engaging in consensual sex or other physical contact with other humans comes with the knowledge that you may be infected with a disease that will harm or kill you. It should not matter whether the other person knew they had a disease or not. The presumption is there that you and you alone are responsible for your own safety. In medicine, we practice universal precautions. We presume that all bodily fluids and tissues may contain infectious agents and treat them accordingly. The rest of society should do the same. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:27:09 PM EDT
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Reckless endangerment at a minimum?
If you have the HIV and you're a guy, then assault with a deadly weapon? I would totally throw the book at some shit stain who knowingly exposed someone to an infectious disease. Especially if it is a deadly infectious disease. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:27:58 PM EDT
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Consensual contact should not be criminalized. If someone stabs you in the face with a syringe full of their AIDS blood, then they should be charged. That isn't consensual. Engaging in consensual sex or other physical contact with other humans comes with the knowledge that you may be infected with a disease that will harm or kill you. It should not matter whether the other person knew they had a disease or not. The presumption is there that you and you alone are responsible for your own safety. In medicine, we practice universal precautions. We presume that all bodily fluids and tissues may contain infectious agents and treat them accordingly. The rest of society should do the same. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile If you drink the beer I gave you, you freely consented to drinking it. You also drank the MDMA I put in it before I gave it to you. You are responsible for not drinking open drinks, and every drink should be presumed to be spiked. ... See? It's about intent to do harm. There is accidental, there is probable, there is chance and risk, and then there is criminal intent. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Consensual contact should not be criminalized. If someone stabs you in the face with a syringe full of their AIDS blood, then they should be charged. That isn't consensual. Engaging in consensual sex or other physical contact with other humans comes with the knowledge that you may be infected with a disease that will harm or kill you. It should not matter whether the other person knew they had a disease or not. The presumption is there that you and you alone are responsible for your own safety. In medicine, we practice universal precautions. We presume that all bodily fluids and tissues may contain infectious agents and treat them accordingly. The rest of society should do the same. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: legislating morality will never work. don't misunderstand me though. Someone does that deserves to get raped with a pine cone backwards Legislating morality works all the time. Murder is immoral, therefor it is illegal. What about MRSA? Influenza? Herpes Type I? If you don't want to get infected by other humans, go live in a cabin in the woods. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Intent. That's what you are looking for. If I'm thinking "That C-4 dude is a real dick and I hate him. I have MRSA, the flu and the herp and a plan" Then I call you up and say "HEY C-4! Wanna come drink beers and wrestle like the gladiators used to?" 3 days later you are in the hospital. My intent was to put you in the hospital. You think thats ok? Or is it all on you because wrestling like the gladiators used to was a dumb thing to do. Consensual contact should not be criminalized. If someone stabs you in the face with a syringe full of their AIDS blood, then they should be charged. That isn't consensual. Engaging in consensual sex or other physical contact with other humans comes with the knowledge that you may be infected with a disease that will harm or kill you. It should not matter whether the other person knew they had a disease or not. The presumption is there that you and you alone are responsible for your own safety. In medicine, we practice universal precautions. We presume that all bodily fluids and tissues may contain infectious agents and treat them accordingly. The rest of society should do the same. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile And this why I hate Libertarians. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:39:49 PM EDT
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Or maybe I just want you to think I'm a guy by using an obvious Basement Joe username so you won't take anything I say seriously... or maybe I am a sexy vixen...hmmm....
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:41:40 PM EDT
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I'm libertarian and voted for it to be illegal, so WTF? What rights violations do you advocate?
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:41:52 PM EDT
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What about MRSA? Influenza? Herpes Type I? If you don't want to get infected by other humans, go live in a cabin in the woods. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Intent. That's what you are looking for. If I'm thinking "That C-4 dude is a real dick and I hate him. I have MRSA, the flu and the herp and a plan" Then I call you up and say "HEY C-4! Wanna come drink beers and wrestle like the gladiators used to?" 3 days later you are in the hospital. My intent was to put you in the hospital. You think thats ok? Or is it all on you because wrestling like the gladiators used to was a dumb thing to do. Consensual contact should not be criminalized. If someone stabs you in the face with a syringe full of their AIDS blood, then they should be charged. That isn't consensual. Engaging in consensual sex or other physical contact with other humans comes with the knowledge that you may be infected with a disease that will harm or kill you. It should not matter whether the other person knew they had a disease or not. The presumption is there that you and you alone are responsible for your own safety. In medicine, we practice universal precautions. We presume that all bodily fluids and tissues may contain infectious agents and treat them accordingly. The rest of society should do the same. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile And this why I hate Libertarians. Of course you do. You don't believe in personal responsibility or you would have paid off your mortgage like a responsible libertarian. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:42:27 PM EDT
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And this why I hate Libertarians. You and me both. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:43:23 PM EDT
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Or maybe I just want you to think I'm a guy by using an obvious Basement Joe username so you won't take anything I say seriously... or maybe I am a sexy vixen...hmmm.... No, this is you. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:44:11 PM EDT
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Agreed, completely messed up, but you will have a difficult time proving the person knowingly did it. Zach Not really. If you subpoena'd their health records you could find a positive test, or previous treatment prescriptions proving they knew. Granted if they never sought treatment, never got tested, or did so at some anonymous clinic it would be hard to establish, but for many people you could prove it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course you do. You don't believe in personal responsibility or you would have paid off your mortgage like a responsible libertarian. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about MRSA? Influenza? Herpes Type I? If you don't want to get infected by other humans, go live in a cabin in the woods. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Intent. That's what you are looking for. If I'm thinking "That C-4 dude is a real dick and I hate him. I have MRSA, the flu and the herp and a plan" Then I call you up and say "HEY C-4! Wanna come drink beers and wrestle like the gladiators used to?" 3 days later you are in the hospital. My intent was to put you in the hospital. You think thats ok? Or is it all on you because wrestling like the gladiators used to was a dumb thing to do. Consensual contact should not be criminalized. If someone stabs you in the face with a syringe full of their AIDS blood, then they should be charged. That isn't consensual. Engaging in consensual sex or other physical contact with other humans comes with the knowledge that you may be infected with a disease that will harm or kill you. It should not matter whether the other person knew they had a disease or not. The presumption is there that you and you alone are responsible for your own safety. In medicine, we practice universal precautions. We presume that all bodily fluids and tissues may contain infectious agents and treat them accordingly. The rest of society should do the same. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile And this why I hate Libertarians. Of course you do. You don't believe in personal responsibility or you would have paid off your mortgage like a responsible libertarian. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Oh look at this! You want to bring up something that you know absolutely nothing about? The bank got every fucking nickle they were owed. EVERY FUCKING NICKLE! You want to slander me, know what the FUCK you're talking about! |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:44:48 PM EDT
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I think that if smene has an STD they should be forced to get that information tattooed onto them.
I would like to know if any chick I plan on fucking has something. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:45:04 PM EDT
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It's some fucked up shit but how many laws do we need on the books??? I can remember the cases of AIDS infected types sleeping around without condoms. Maybe that is the reason. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:46:12 PM EDT
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If you drink the beer I gave you, you freely consented to drinking it. You also drank the MDMA I put in it before I gave it to you. You are responsible for not drinking open drinks, and every drink should be presumed to be spiked. ... See? It's about intent to do harm. There is accidental, there is probable, there is chance and risk, and then there is criminal intent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Consensual contact should not be criminalized. If someone stabs you in the face with a syringe full of their AIDS blood, then they should be charged. That isn't consensual. Engaging in consensual sex or other physical contact with other humans comes with the knowledge that you may be infected with a disease that will harm or kill you. It should not matter whether the other person knew they had a disease or not. The presumption is there that you and you alone are responsible for your own safety. In medicine, we practice universal precautions. We presume that all bodily fluids and tissues may contain infectious agents and treat them accordingly. The rest of society should do the same. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile If you drink the beer I gave you, you freely consented to drinking it. You also drank the MDMA I put in it before I gave it to you. You are responsible for not drinking open drinks, and every drink should be presumed to be spiked. ... See? It's about intent to do harm. There is accidental, there is probable, there is chance and risk, and then there is criminal intent. It's illegal to possess MDMA. It's illegal to adulterate food with a poison. Charge the person with those crimes and let them do serious time instead of the revolving door of the current legal system. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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