Off thread, but fuck banks. There is nothing wrong with walking away from a mortgage. You have no obligation to pay it. The bank knows the risk of default before they give you the loan.

With Herpes.  

And yet there are the LP like you who wonder why no one really takes you and your party seriously.

Oh dear.

I'm afraid this thread might get ugly.

If you promise to pay someone money, you are obligated to pay it.

That is certainly NOT how you last explained it.  I'm all ears.


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You're right, I didn't think to much about it when I saw it

Nope, you agree to the terms of the mortgage. The mortgage paperwork stipulates what happens if you fail to pay. There is nothing immoral about it.

Doesn't matter if the paperwork tells you what the penalties are.

If you promise to pay me money and you don't, you're a liar and have no integrity.

I reckon you do not identify with the Oath Keepers?

No, you promised to abide by the terms of the contract. If you fail to pay, the bank takes your house. Those are the terms you agreed to.

No, you're all mouth.



I stopped posting about it completely because some of you were using my requests for advice to pass judgement on me. In fact, I stopped posting here for an entire year because people like yourself and DK-Prof had passed judgement on me without knowing the full story. When I came back, I stopped posting about it completely.



The only explanation you need is what I've told you. The bank got every nickle they were owed. That's the absolute truth. Beyond that, I don't owe you or anyone else an explanation for a goddamn thing.



But don't fucking slander me, based on what you don't fucking know jack fucking shit about.



 

Let me tell you about my STD from the silent film era....

Well then by extrapolation, we should all presume that everybody else has the flu, a cold, pertussis, the measles, and norovirus....and for those over 16, an STD...



What about parents who knowingly send their kids to school with fevers (usually because it's difficult to 'take time off work')....so then those kids cough on the other kids, wipe their snot on the door handles, etc...then the other kids get sick.  Then the parents of THOSE secondarily-infected kids, have to take time off work and their kids suffer.  



If I slap some kid bully at the playground for being a jerk (which I wouldn't do), then I could be subject to a civil lawsuit and possible criminal punishment, not to mention being ostracized from the community and being on the nightly news...even though he only suffered a moment of stinging pain, which was deserved...



But, if I send my kid to school with the latest mutation of the flu, because it's more convenient for me,  - or if I myself go to the office with the flu...and get numerous others sick...well, then that's no problem.  And in this case, the innocent others will suffer for many days, if not weeks...and feel much worse than if they got a slap on the cheek...



You call me an asshole, I punch you in the face, a moment of pain - I get charged with a crime.



Me and my sick children go to work & school, and get 10 other people sick - who will all suffer and be miserable for days if not weeks... - well that's totally fine.



So please tell me, how it that logical?  How is that reasonable?  Does that make sense?  Am I in outer space here - for even questioning this?

I think intentionally giving someone an incurable, life altering disease is beyond a morality issue. I don't see as being any different than if you walked up to someone on the street and stuck them with a needle filled with small pox. Obviously that would be illegal, so shouldn't the same apply to a disease like herpes?

 

The "l" is lowercase, chief.  Knowingly having the STD and not telling your partner is fraud.  Giving it to them on top of that is knowingly harming them. I'm not sure how thinking otherwise is part of the libertarian view.

So you're saying the bank knew there was a risk going in?  Like a man knows the risk of going into some strange pussy or ass?  I can certainly see your point but you've now made a perfect argument against criminalizing STD transmission.



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You would first need a broad understanding of how viruses and bacteria are transmitted, asymptomatic infection, incubation periods, etc and then you would realize how ridiculous it is to attempt to criminalize the transmission of infectious diseases.


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LOL You wish.

I think that sneezing without covering your mouth with your left arm should be a felony...

If y'all had Jesus, you wouldn't have to worry about the herp

So you want to not make a new law,but opening up sex related offenses to fraud charges. Something like those pols who want to make telling someone you are rich/famous/powerful when you are not as a mean of getting laid into a charge of rape by fraud? Or do you just want to accept that attempting to harm or kill someone with a dose of AIDS or HEPC is actually an assault or attempted murder and is deserving of the necessary language for our litigious court system.

so how long have you had the herp?

Right.  Because we can't "catch" who did it...who spread the disease...we can't pinpoint the perpetrator - the root cause.  At least not yet.  Maybe in the future, a link could be made between a virus and an individual's DNA..?



The reasons for enforcing a speed limit or DUI laws, include limiting the potential for causing injury to others and/or "for public safety..."  



Is not sending an a measles-infected child to public school a "potential safety hazard...?"



I'm not arguing for more laws or big-government control...not at all.    But I DO want people to be aware of the risk and potential harm they can cause by exposing others to sickness, in the name of convenience or time off work...

What C-4 said.

Intentionally exposing someone to a harmful substance without their knowledge is Malum In Se. And that's all I have to say about that.

You risk getting in a car crash on the freeway, but if someone gets road rage and intentionally rams into someone else they're getting charged with some form of assault at least, maybe even attempted murder.