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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:35:13 AM EDT
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Never owned one, but damn that's got to be loud. Tag for responses.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:36:37 AM EDT
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Yes, I expect so...stamp #2 will have be a suppressor
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:37:09 AM EDT
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My vote: PWS MK212. I have a MK214 and at some point will get a MK212.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:38:28 AM EDT
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Never owned one, but damn that's got to be loud. Tag for responses. Really not that bad. At least, 12.5" isn't. Don't care to own one of those pistol PTR-91's with a 9" or so barrel though. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:38:31 AM EDT
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead?
I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:39:42 AM EDT
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:40:40 AM EDT
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I had an FAL OSW, man THAT was a blaster !
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:41:24 AM EDT
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You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Lol. And take advantage of that 51mm case instead of that 35mm case... |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:41:30 AM EDT
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I'm going to go with get a 300 over a 308 sbr
I guess handloading you could use a powder that will burn fully in such a short barreled 308 but basically you are using all that extra weight and case capacity to make a big fireball. 300 is designed to get full burn in short barrels. Of course I'm no expert and likely entirely wrong. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:41:55 AM EDT
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You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Um, handload? 300BLK is not a cartridge for people who don't have an SBR lower, a .30 suppressor, and a reloading press. If you do have all those things, then it's foolish to not get an 8" upper because the cartridge really is a lot of fun. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:42:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to go with get a 300 over a 308 sbr I guess handloading you could use a powder that will burn fully in such a short barreled 308 but basically you are using all that extra weight and case capacity to make a big fireball. 300 is designed to get full burn in short barrels. Of course I'm no expert and likely entirely wrong. You are entirely right. 300 BLK all the way. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:42:42 AM EDT
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Do it....... 12.5 inch .308 AR......... Thatd be tits.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:43:07 AM EDT
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. Exactly. I have a 308 AR. From my reading, it takes a little bit of tweaking to get it to cycle right when you go that short. It would likely cause the .308 to become a dedicated SBR rather than being able to switch barrel lengths. Considering the loss of velocity, It seems to make a lot more sense to put together a 300BLK upper for an AR than doing a .308 SBR. I am considering doing that very thing with one of my ARs. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:44:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Um, handload? 300BLK is not a cartridge for people who don't have an SBR lower, a .30 suppressor, and a reloading press. If you do have all those things, then it's foolish to not get an 8" upper because the cartridge really is a lot of fun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Um, handload? 300BLK is not a cartridge for people who don't have an SBR lower, a .30 suppressor, and a reloading press. If you do have all those things, then it's foolish to not get an 8" upper because the cartridge really is a lot of fun. Bro everyone can SBR a lower now. Sig arm brace and a "pistol" lower. Ammo is an issue if you don't reload. But its not like factory 308 is cheap. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:44:32 AM EDT
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I'm going to go with get a 300 over a 308 sbr I guess handloading you could use a powder that will burn fully in such a short barreled 308 but basically you are using all that extra weight and case capacity to make a big fireball. 300 is designed to get full burn in short barrels. Of course I'm no expert and likely entirely wrong. You're avatar just gave me a seizure. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:44:32 AM EDT
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If they make a 7.5" pistol length .308 barrel, get that one and put a muzzle brake on it. They might even ban you from the range.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:47:28 AM EDT
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I have 308 already, and reload.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:49:29 AM EDT
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SBR'ing a 5.56 AR lower still makes more sense IMHO. You could do a 5.56 upper, .300BLK upper, get a magblock and do a 9mm upper....
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:54:03 AM EDT
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I once shot a POF 308 10'' barreled SBR with a compensator at an ARFCOM industry gathering at an indoor range once. It was very pleasant to shoot, but was extremely unpleasant to be around when others were shooting it.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:56:39 AM EDT
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My copy of the Noveske Leonidas... With the brake and no suppressor, it will rattle your fillings...It is, however, an assload of fun to shoot...
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Posted: 6/19/2014 9:57:41 AM EDT
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SBR'ing a 5.56 AR lower still makes more sense IMHO. You could do a 5.56 upper, .300BLK upper, get a magblock and do a 9mm upper.... That actually sounds pretty awesome...sorry I kept thinking 300bk required an 30cal lower, figured it was simpler to stick with what I have |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:09:16 AM EDT
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I have a DMPS AP4 that I SBR'd. No pics, as I haven't even re-assembled it since the stamp came back and the bbl chopped (ADC)). But I didn't have a 7.62 suppressor yet, so I just wasn't in a hurry.
 Stamp is now back on my AAC 762SD6 and I should get up there to pick it up in the next week or so, so I should be assembling everything, testing it all, and taking pics soon. I imagine the felt concussion will be even worse than my RFB, so I doubt I'll be shooting it much unsuppressed... except when I have guests at my range whom I want to shock with noise/blast/fireball.  |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:09:26 AM EDT
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300 Blackout
I was thinking about doing a compact .308 next. Either 16" or SBR. .308 is a man's round. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:10:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:13:18 AM EDT
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You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Yeah, because a guy preparing to drop $400 on tax stamps, $1000 on a suppressor and $??? on a .308 caliber rifle has got to watch his pennies, yo. 
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:16:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, because a guy preparing to drop $400 on tax stamps, $1000 on a suppressor and $??? on a .308 caliber rifle has got to watch his pennies, yo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Yeah, because a guy preparing to drop $400 on tax stamps, $1000 on a suppressor and $??? on a .308 caliber rifle has got to watch his pennies, yo. I tend to watch my pennies, FWIW, and try to stick to a core group of common and proven calibers/chamberings (all of which I keep plenty on hand) for all of my guns.  |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:17:51 AM EDT
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Never owned one, but damn that's got to be loud. Tag for responses. WHAT? |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:19:07 AM EDT
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All these responses and 4 pictures?
 and no I don't have one
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:24:52 AM EDT
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You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. That's why all the smart kids reload. We get to shoot both for about the same price. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:28:28 AM EDT
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I tend to watch my pennies, FWIW, and try to stick to a core group of common and proven calibers/chamberings (all of which I keep plenty on hand) for all of my guns.
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Why bother with a .308 SBR if you plan on suppressing it? Why not go .300 BLK instead? I don't own either, it just seems to me like a bit of a strange purchase. You might be able to afford to shoot your .308 is why. Yeah, because a guy preparing to drop $400 on tax stamps, $1000 on a suppressor and $??? on a .308 caliber rifle has got to watch his pennies, yo. I tend to watch my pennies, FWIW, and try to stick to a core group of common and proven calibers/chamberings (all of which I keep plenty on hand) for all of my guns.
Watching pennies and NFA are mutually exclusive terms in my book, but I get what you're saying about the common cartridges. I'd switch hobbies to bream fishing before I let cartridge price steer me from 300BLK to .308WIN in this scenario. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:28:50 AM EDT
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All these responses and 4 pictures? and no I don't have one Hey, I did my part... |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:33:00 AM EDT
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Only Old surplus for this
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:36:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:43:18 AM EDT
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Loud is an understatement. But fun
 It has a Noveske KX3 on it now.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:43:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching pennies and NFA are mutually exclusive terms in my book, but I get what you're saying about the common cartridges. I'd switch hobbies to bream fishing before I let cartridge price steer me from 300BLK to .308WIN in this scenario.  300BLK was still relatively new/untested when I made the decision to SBR my AP4 and I don't reload, so 300BLK wasn't very appealing to me. I am now considering it, in spite of it being outside of my "canonical" cartridges (a pretty big deal for me, if you happen to remember my years-long and angst-ridden effort to streamline my extensive collection to a managaeble and stockpile-friendly list of chamberings  ), and am about to get my first 300BLK upper (I have several standard SBR'd AR lowers). I find it a bit more appealing now because (1) it has been tested more and done well, (2) more factory ammo is out there for it now, (3) I plan to take up reloading when the kids are a little older and I retire, both getting closer every day, and (4) besides my SD6, I can use my Octane 45HD with the subsonic loads.I may eventually embrace 300BLK fully, but I don't think I'll ever regret SBRing the .308. Time will tell... |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 10:48:50 AM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:11:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:15:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:20:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:21:43 AM EDT
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Quote Historyvery curious what kind of velocities you see out of that thing it may function more as a flame thrower than a pistol
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:26:26 AM EDT
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My thread about .308 pistols.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_122/644515_Ar308_pistol_builds_.html ETA: screwed up the link on my phone. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:29:52 AM EDT
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My thread about .308 pistols. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_122/644515_Ar308_pistol_builds_.html web page not available |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:32:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat thing is a monstrosity of a gun. What's the range report on it? |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:37:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: web page not available Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My thread about .308 pistols. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_122/644515_Ar308_pistol_builds_.html web page not available Said that for me too.
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:38:42 AM EDT
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Said that for me too.
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My thread about .308 pistols. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_122/644515_Ar308_pistol_builds_.html web page not available Said that for me too.
This one |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 11:39:04 AM EDT
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My copy of the Noveske Leonidas... With the brake and no suppressor, it will rattle your fillings...It is, however, an assload of fun to shoot... <a href="http://s170.photobucket.com/user/SaturationTech/media/762SDN6-2_zpsc551adca.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/SaturationTech/762SDN6-2_zpsc551adca.jpg</a> <a href="http://s170.photobucket.com/user/SaturationTech/media/762SDN6-7_zps701783bc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/SaturationTech/762SDN6-7_zps701783bc.jpg</a> I want that. 
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Posted: 6/19/2014 12:29:11 PM EDT
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That actually sounds pretty awesome...sorry I kept thinking 300bk required an 30cal lower, figured it was simpler to stick with what I have Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SBR'ing a 5.56 AR lower still makes more sense IMHO. You could do a 5.56 upper, .300BLK upper, get a magblock and do a 9mm upper.... That actually sounds pretty awesome...sorry I kept thinking 300bk required an 30cal lower, figured it was simpler to stick with what I have 
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Posted: 6/19/2014 12:30:36 PM EDT
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I remember a guy at the hun farm had one. HK with full auto trigger pack.
That thing shot a fireball longer than the overall length of the gun, I think.
Great fun. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 12:54:36 PM EDT
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I've never enjoyed fishing much.
300BLK was still relatively new/untested when I made the decision to SBR my AP4 and I don't reload, so 300BLK wasn't very appealing to me. I am now considering it, in spite of it being outside of my "canonical" cartridges (a pretty big deal for me, if you happen to remember my years-long and angst-ridden effort to streamline my extensive collection to a managaeble and stockpile-friendly list of chamberings ), and am about to get my first 300BLK upper (I have several standard SBR'd AR lowers). I find it a bit more appealing now because (1) it has been tested more and done well, (2) more factory ammo is out there for it now, (3) I plan to take up reloading when the kids are a little older and I retire, both getting closer every day, and (4) besides my SD6, I can use my Octane 45HD with the subsonic loads.
I may eventually embrace 300BLK fully, but I don't think I'll ever regret SBRing the .308. Time will tell... I got as far as buying a 9" 300BLK barrel before I realized I should probably just get a cane pole and a basket of crickets.
I've got a suppressed 5.56 AR15 SBR that I don't get out and shoot much, and I really can't justify a 7.62 can right now. |
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Posted: 6/19/2014 1:00:49 PM EDT
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Quote Historyadded to favorites. 
Sig 716? |
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