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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:21:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just dont let the fag barista see it and decide to throw you out.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Damn...just when you people had me convinced Virginia was a free state.....  At least I can OC my Glock 21 in a Starbucks. Just dont let the fag barista see it and decide to throw you out. Corporate policy instructs them to say nothing. 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:22:36 PM EDT
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no, it says DMV considers any that go over 35 mph to be a motorcycle thus requiring insurance . for arguments sake, they pretty much all go over 35 these days. its not very hard to go 35 on one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having to register it and having to have a license to operate it are two entirely different things. Shouldn't make any difference other than the state sounds like they need some more revenue. Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. 1. No, you don't need a DL to register a moped. 2. No, you don't need to have insurance on a moped. See, e.g., 46.2-705 and 46.2-721. The "new" law specifically took mopeds out of the insurance requirement. no, it says DMV considers any that go over 35 mph to be a motorcycle thus requiring insurance . for arguments sake, they pretty much all go over 35 these days. its not very hard to go 35 on one. Moped is a defined term under the code. We're talking about mopeds, not motorcycles. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:23:22 PM EDT
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It doesn't say that anywhere, nor does it say anything about insurance being required. It says if your license is suspended or revoked for DUI you cannot drive a moped on public roads, but I cannot find any actual code section that supports that. Please post one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Next july they all have to be registered and titled .going to put a lot of people walking. But you still don't need a license to drive them. But if your license has been revoked then you cant operate them, so they are not " liquor cycles ". http://www.dmv.state.va.us/vehicles/#moped.asp It doesn't say that anywhere, nor does it say anything about insurance being required. It says if your license is suspended or revoked for DUI you cannot drive a moped on public roads, but I cannot find any actual code section that supports that. Please post one. Hell man, DMV doesnt need to show a fucking code section, it says right there on their website. In VA , DMV is the ultimate Nazi Gestapo org that is not to be messed with.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:23:54 PM EDT
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What about a Whopper Chopper?
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:24:54 PM EDT
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they want them to be registered so they can collect property tax on them, like every other form of transportation in the state.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:25:03 PM EDT
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He means mopeds, that people get stuck riding when they lose their license. They slow up all the traffic around Richmond and generally piss everyone off. Technically you are not allowed to operate one on the street without a license. Even though they currently do not have to be registered, still a motor vehicle on the highway. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:25:05 PM EDT
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Hell man, DMV doesnt need to show a fucking code section, it says right there on their website. In VA , DMV is the ultimate Nazi Gestapo org that is not to be messed with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It doesn't say that anywhere, nor does it say anything about insurance being required. It says if your license is suspended or revoked for DUI you cannot drive a moped on public roads, but I cannot find any actual code section that supports that. Please post one. Hell man, DMV doesnt need to show a fucking code section, it says right there on their website. In VA , DMV is the ultimate Nazi Gestapo org that is not to be messed with. I can fuck DMV back pretty hard if I want to.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:26:13 PM EDT
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Technically you are not allowed to operate one on the street without a license. Even though they currently do not have to be registered, still a motor vehicle on the highway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He means mopeds, that people get stuck riding when they lose their license. They slow up all the traffic around Richmond and generally piss everyone off. Technically you are not allowed to operate one on the street without a license. Even though they currently do not have to be registered, still a motor vehicle on the highway. Yes you are. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:27:50 PM EDT
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My belief is that any vehicle on the road, excluding a bicycle, should be titled, tagged, and insured and you should have to have a drivers license to operate. You should also obey all traffic laws including maintaining the speed limit and not impeding traffic. And they should have to wear a helmet just as do the motorcycles in Va. I dont care for DMV any more than the next guy but some things you just gotta do.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:28:21 PM EDT
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The following provisions apply to mopeds operating on Virginia roadways. They do not apply to mopeds that are solely operated on private property. Effective July 1, 2013, Virginia law requires that every moped driver operating on Virginia roadways carry a government-issued photo ID (does not have to be a driver’s license). Every driver and passenger must wear a helmet * while riding a moped. Drivers must also wear a face shield, safety glasses or goggles unless the moped has a windshield. Operation of mopeds is prohibited on the interstate. In Virginia, you must be at least age 16 to drive a moped. It is illegal to drive a moped if your license is suspended or revoked for DUI/drugs or if you are a habitual offender. If your driving privileges are suspended or revoked based on a DUI related conviction or as a habitual offender, you must be in full compliance with all requirements imposed by DMV and the court before operating a moped. Customers with outstanding fines for HOT lane or toll violations cannot register any motor vehicle, including mopeds, until those fines have been paid. Virginia law requires mopeds operated on Virginia roadways to be titled and registered by July 1, 2014.*
DMV will issue one license plate per moped to be placed on the rear of the vehicle If a moped is operated in excess of 35 mph, it is considered a motorcycle |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:29:47 PM EDT
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Technically you are not allowed to operate one on the street without a license. Even though they currently do not have to be registered, still a motor vehicle on the highway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He means mopeds, that people get stuck riding when they lose their license. They slow up all the traffic around Richmond and generally piss everyone off. Technically you are not allowed to operate one on the street without a license. Even though they currently do not have to be registered, still a motor vehicle on the highway. It depends on how fast they go. Under 25, no license. Over 35, they are treated as a motorcycle. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:36:11 PM EDT
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Scooters should have to abide to the same regulations as any other motorcycle.
I think its insane that they are allowed to travel at 30 mph in traffic, yet arent required to have insurance, registration or a motorcycle endorsement. Or even wear a helmet... In Missouri technically you are still supposed to have a valid license to operate them on the streets but thats never enforced either since a couple shops actually were advertising No DL required. They did get their hand smacked at least for that! |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:38:13 PM EDT
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Tyranny!
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:39:59 PM EDT
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Scooters should have to abide to the same regulations as any other motorcycle. I think its insane that they are allowed to travel at 30 mph in traffic, yet arent required to have insurance, registration or a motorcycle endorsement. Or even wear a helmet... In Missouri technically you are still supposed to have a valid license to operate them on the streets but thats never enforced either since a couple shops actually were advertising No DL required. They did get their hand smacked at least for that! A helmet is required when riding a moped in Virginia. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:40:09 PM EDT
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The Basics
The following provisions apply to mopeds operating on Virginia roadways. They do not apply to mopeds that are solely operated on private property. Effective July 1, 2013, Virginia law requires that every moped driver operating on Virginia roadways carry a government-issued photo ID (does not have to be a driver’s license). Every driver and passenger must wear a helmet * while riding a moped. Drivers must also wear a face shield, safety glasses or goggles unless the moped has a windshield. Operation of mopeds is prohibited on the interstate. In Virginia, you must be at least age 16 to drive a moped. It is illegal to drive a moped if your license is suspended or revoked for DUI/drugs or if you are a habitual offender. If your driving privileges are suspended or revoked based on a DUI related conviction or as a habitual offender, you must be in full compliance with all requirements imposed by DMV and the court before operating a moped. Customers with outstanding fines for HOT lane or toll violations cannot register any motor vehicle, including mopeds, until those fines have been paid. Virginia law requires mopeds operated on Virginia roadways to be titled and registered by July 1, 2014.*
DMV will issue one license plate per moped to be placed on the rear of the vehicle If a moped is operated in excess of 35 mph, it is considered a motorcycle What is the Code section (or combination of them) that provides for that? The cut and paste from the DMV website is great and all, but that place is run by window-lickers and I don't trust their interpretation of a lunch menu, let alone the Code. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:41:32 PM EDT
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Scooters. People seem to think you can drive one when you lose your license due to a DUI. Not true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Next july they all have to be registered and titled .going to put a lot of people walking. WTF is a liqer cycle? Scooters. People seem to think you can drive one when you lose your license due to a DUI. Not true. For the most part in NC they can. I cannot wait until we can require the same here and be rid of the liquor cycle/beer bike issue here. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:43:24 PM EDT
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The previously-mentioned Florida DUI Scooter is in fact legal to operate on the street without a driver's license.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:44:42 PM EDT
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Normally I know better than to open your threads but I was curious what a "liqer cycle" is. I still don't know. Cyclists who are cyclists because of DUI. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:45:28 PM EDT
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A helmet is required when riding a moped in Virginia. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Scooters should have to abide to the same regulations as any other motorcycle. I think its insane that they are allowed to travel at 30 mph in traffic, yet arent required to have insurance, registration or a motorcycle endorsement. Or even wear a helmet... In Missouri technically you are still supposed to have a valid license to operate them on the streets but thats never enforced either since a couple shops actually were advertising No DL required. They did get their hand smacked at least for that! A helmet is required when riding a moped in Virginia. Helmets here in Mo. for all motorcycles except scooters... 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:45:47 PM EDT
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Next july they all have to be registered and titled .going to put a lot of people walking. Registered and titled, but can they be operated without a driver's license? In MD the new law just started that they must be registered and a sticker applied to the frame showing you paid the fee. The rider must also have insurance, but a driver's license is not required. I have no idea how much scooter insurance is after a DUI costs you your DL, but I bet it beats riding the bus. Kharn |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:47:43 PM EDT
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Sure looks like a motorcycle to me.
On the road? Pay the tax. That said the tax should be proportional to the damage the vehicle does |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:48:16 PM EDT
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Next july they all have to be registered and titled .going to put a lot of people walking. Registered and titled, but can they be operated without a driver's license? YES |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:52:09 PM EDT
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The registration requirement does pose an impediment to some folks who might otherwise, now, be able to use a 49cc moped. For example, people who owe court costs or child support cannot register a vehicle (and can have existing registrations suspended).
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:52:12 PM EDT
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I hate government intrusion, but fuck mopeds. They shouldnt be registered, they just shouldnt be on the fucking roads going 30 in a 50 zone.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:52:54 PM EDT
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Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having to register it and having to have a license to operate it are two entirely different things. Shouldn't make any difference other than the state sounds like they need some more revenue. Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. That maybe so in Virginia, but in SC a moped with engine under 50cc is not considered a motor vehicle, it is legally the same as a bicycle. No license, no registration. We call them liquor cycles also. No penalty for riding one even if you have multiple DUI's. There is a reason most you see have middle aged sketchy looking men riding them. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:54:20 PM EDT
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That maybe so in Virginia, but in SC a moped with engine under 50cc is not considered a motor vehicle, it is legally the same as a bicycle. No license, no registration. We call them liquor cycles also. No penalty for riding one even if you have multiple DUI's. There is a reason most you see have middle aged sketchy looking men riding them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having to register it and having to have a license to operate it are two entirely different things. Shouldn't make any difference other than the state sounds like they need some more revenue. Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. That maybe so in Virginia, but in SC a moped with engine under 50cc is not considered a motor vehicle, it is legally the same as a bicycle. No license, no registration. We call them liquor cycles also. No penalty for riding one even if you have multiple DUI's. There is a reason most you see have middle aged sketchy looking men riding them. It's not so in Virginia. Keep reading. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:58:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Having to register it and having to have a license to operate it are two entirely different things. Shouldn't make any difference other than the state sounds like they need some more revenue. Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. This. I always chuckle when I see people driving boozer cruisers.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:58:55 PM EDT
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Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having to register it and having to have a license to operate it are two entirely different things. Shouldn't make any difference other than the state sounds like they need some more revenue. Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. You think no license stops people from operating these things? 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:08:32 PM EDT
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Hell man, DMV doesnt need to show a fucking code section, it says right there on their website. In VA , DMV is the ultimate Nazi Gestapo org that is not to be messed with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Next july they all have to be registered and titled .going to put a lot of people walking. But you still don't need a license to drive them. But if your license has been revoked then you cant operate them, so they are not " liquor cycles ". http://www.dmv.state.va.us/vehicles/#moped.asp It doesn't say that anywhere, nor does it say anything about insurance being required. It says if your license is suspended or revoked for DUI you cannot drive a moped on public roads, but I cannot find any actual code section that supports that. Please post one. Hell man, DMV doesnt need to show a fucking code section, it says right there on their website. In VA , DMV is the ultimate Nazi Gestapo org that is not to be messed with. NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:09:30 PM EDT
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edit, never mind
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:10:41 PM EDT
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NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. Pretty much. I can drive around with a loaded, suppressed machinegun in Virginia with a 100 round magazine in my car, but God help me if I drive 81/70. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:11:20 PM EDT
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Having to register it and having to have a license to operate it are two entirely different things. Shouldn't make any difference other than the state sounds like they need some more revenue. Actually, no. You need to have a valid DL to register it and once its registered it will require insurance which you will need a valid DL to get also. But as far as being a " Liquor Cycle " goes, its not that either. If you lose your license for any reason, you may not operate a motor vehicle on the road, any vehicle including a scooter. If you have a bicycle that has had the little gas motor kit installed then you ant operate that either without a license. This whole thread is pretty worthless. You think no license stops people from operating these things? You are the only one in this thread to even say that. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:13:19 PM EDT
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I used to work at a motorcycle shop in Raleigh, NC. We sold about a half-dozen of these per month: http://halebicycles.com/merchant/841/images/site/lxmoped.jpg The funny bit is that there is a fairly substantial aftermarket parts business for these little bastards. Why? Because, in NC at least, mopeds had to have working pedals, no more than a 49cc two-stroke engine, and a fairly restrictive exhaust. It was common for folks to spend $700 on these things and immediately drop another $200 in 'upgrades'. Stock, mopeds top out at 20mph. With an aftermarket pipe and expansion chamber I've seen these little bastards hit 50mph. (Admittedly, that guy also had an 80cc kit.) Knowing what I know about the brakes and build quality of these things, anything over 25mph is insane. m A business in Charlotte does something similar. Those things will haul ass with the right mods. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:27:20 PM EDT
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§ 46.2-914. Limitations on operation of mopeds. A. No moped shall be driven on any highway or public vehicular area faster than 35 miles per hour. Any person who operates a moped faster than 35 miles per hour shall be deemed, for all the purposes of this title, to be operating a motorcycle. B. No moped shall be driven on any highway by any person under the age of 16, and every person driving a moped shall carry with him a government-issued form of photo identification that includes his name, address, and date of birth. C. Operation of mopeds is prohibited on any Interstate Highway System component. Violation of any provision of this section shall constitute a traffic infraction punishable by a fine of no more than $50. Here is one we see a lot: § 46.2-915.2. Safety equipment for mopeds; effect of violation; penalty. Every person operating a moped, as defined in § 46.2-100, on a public street or highway shall wear a face shield, safety glasses, or goggles of a type approved by the Superintendent or have his moped equipped with safety glass or a windshield at all times while operating such vehicle, and operators and passengers thereon, if any, shall wear protective helmets of a type approved by the Superintendent. A violation of this section shall not constitute negligence, be considered in mitigation of damages of whatever nature, be admissible in evidence or be the subject of comment by counsel in any action for the recovery of damages arising out of the operation, ownership, or maintenance of a moped or motor vehicle, nor shall anything in this section change any existing law, rule, or procedure pertaining to any such civil action. Any person who knowingly violates this section shall be guilty of a traffic infraction and be subject to a fine of not more than fifty dollars. I have seen people using bike or skateboard helmets. Or the turtle shell helmets without the DOT stamp on 'em. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:29:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:36:49 PM EDT
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I know a guy that used a golf cart when he lost his license.
He also got his second DUI while driving that golf cart. 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:39:19 PM EDT
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NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. Pretty much. I can drive around with a loaded, suppressed machinegun in Virginia with a 100 round magazine in my car, but God help me if I drive 81/70. Fact.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:42:24 PM EDT
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Next july they all have to be registered and titled .going to put a lot of people walking. When the hell did ya'all up there in Virginny start buyin likker at the Likker Sto? |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:46:05 PM EDT
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He means mopeds, that people get stuck riding when they lose their license. They slow up all the traffic around Richmond and generally piss everyone off. Not just richmond, those basterds are everywhere now. Know one guy who rides his 80 miles a day for work. There seem to be some kind of scooter "gang" here in the Spotsylvania area. Usually about 10-12 (sometimes more) riding together, one guy has attached, what looks like a storm door to the front of his to use as a wind screen. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:52:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2013 4:52:45 PM EDT
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He means mopeds, that people get stuck riding when they lose their license. They slow up all the traffic around Richmond and generally piss everyone off. Unlike the spandex Mafia on their bicycles. 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:09:05 PM EDT
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NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. Pretty much. I can drive around with a loaded, suppressed machinegun in Virginia with a 100 round magazine in my car, but God help me if I drive 81/70. And your vehicle better have an up-to-date safety inspection sticker, emissions sticker, front and rear license plates with stickers, city property tax sticker, and a parking sticker. 
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And your vehicle better have an up-to-date safety inspection sticker, emissions sticker, front and rear license plates with stickers,city property tax sticker, and a parking sticker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. Pretty much. I can drive around with a loaded, suppressed machinegun in Virginia with a 100 round magazine in my car, but God help me if I drive 81/70. And your vehicle better have an up-to-date safety inspection sticker, emissions sticker, front and rear license plates with stickers,city property tax sticker, and a parking sticker. Not needed in my neck of the woods. NOVA can go fuck itself. |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:14:52 PM EDT
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He means mopeds, that people get stuck riding when they lose their license. They slow up all the traffic around Richmond and generally piss everyone off. Only Richmond?
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:17:59 PM EDT
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Not needed in my neck of the woods. NOVA can go fuck itself.
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NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. Pretty much. I can drive around with a loaded, suppressed machinegun in Virginia with a 100 round magazine in my car, but God help me if I drive 81/70. And your vehicle better have an up-to-date safety inspection sticker, emissions sticker, front and rear license plates with stickers,city property tax sticker, and a parking sticker. Not needed in my neck of the woods. NOVA can go fuck itself.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:20:47 PM EDT
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NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. Pretty much. I can drive around with a loaded, suppressed machinegun in Virginia with a 100 round magazine in my car, but God help me if I drive 81/70. And your vehicle better have an up-to-date safety inspection sticker, emissions sticker, front and rear license plates with stickers,city property tax sticker, and a parking sticker. Not needed in my neck of the woods. NOVA can go fuck itself.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:35:55 PM EDT
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They will just start doing like they do here all the time and ride there Rascal Scooters or other motorized chairs in the middle of the road instead. Always amazed we haven't had more of the lazy slobs killed riding those things in traffic than already have been.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 6:36:05 PM EDT
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Damn...just when you people had me convinced Virginia was a free state..... Just wait to see if the leftist gets elected, we will be South Maryland when he is done.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 6:37:59 PM EDT
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He means mopeds, that people get stuck riding when they lose their license. They slow up all the traffic around Richmond and generally piss everyone off. Only Richmond? Traffic is always bad to the north of here, mostly bad to the east, and why would anyone go west... So it's really only noticeable in Richmond
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Posted: 10/27/2013 6:39:14 PM EDT
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Not needed in my neck of the woods. NOVA can go fuck itself.
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NJ is to gun control, as VA is to traffic laws. Pretty much. I can drive around with a loaded, suppressed machinegun in Virginia with a 100 round magazine in my car, but God help me if I drive 81/70. And your vehicle better have an up-to-date safety inspection sticker, emissions sticker, front and rear license plates with stickers,city property tax sticker, and a parking sticker. Not needed in my neck of the woods. NOVA can go fuck itself.
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