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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:44:49 AM EDT
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Cool photos, OP. Did you know that your photobucket account is wide open?
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think.
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“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” General George S. Patton , Jr. USA
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Aren't they pretty much why howitzers and mortars were invented?
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The one in the upper left is Ft. Bourtange in the Netherlands.
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DUPE.
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ha…i just came here to do the same thing |
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Glad I'm not the only lysdexic one here View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Me too |
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Quoted: That Dutch fort is one of those you'd have to starve out. I don't think it was ever captured. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. |
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Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. Don't forget the fort around the fort around the fort. |
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I like how this thread is side by side with the STORE FARTS thread.
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Quoted: Don't forget the fort around the fort around the fort. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. Don't forget the fort around the fort around the fort. |
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I did not, I may have to change that. Also, this thread has almost gone full retard! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cool photos, OP. Did you know that your photobucket account is wide open? I did not, I may have to change that. Also, this thread has almost gone full retard! It started good, but it's now well on it's way to becoming a poop thread. |
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How many farts could a star fort store if a star fort could store farts?
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Fort Morgan, Alabama http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/aquaman67/C6D6F1A7-011B-4791-8D6B-D5ED7E4710CC-1849-000001292BB77EBC_zps73c2f0b1.jpg View Quote I think there might be a lack of star forts in the US because of how late in that period we started fortifying. I think we might have more polygonal forts but I'm no expert... |
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. View Quote Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? |
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Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? Agree, but it doesn't explain why Sumter didn't fall. Quincy Gillmore established his fame as the conqueror of Fort Pulaski. He was then selected to capture Fort Sumter which was the lock that guarded the entrance to Charleston Harbor. The key was Morris Island which, after a two month siege, was captured. Even then, he couldn't take Fort Sumter. Sumter was pounded to rubble but the Confederates didn't evacuate until after Sherman approached from the South. |
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Quoted: Agree, but it doesn't explain why Sumter didn't fall. Quincy Gillmore established his fame as the conqueror of Fort Pulaski. He was then selected to capture Fort Sumter which was the lock that guarded the entrance to Charleston Harbor. The key was Morris Island which, after a two month siege, was captured. Even then, he couldn't take Fort Sumter. Sumter was pounded to rubble but the Confederates didn't evacuate until after Sherman approached from the South. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? Agree, but it doesn't explain why Sumter didn't fall. Quincy Gillmore established his fame as the conqueror of Fort Pulaski. He was then selected to capture Fort Sumter which was the lock that guarded the entrance to Charleston Harbor. The key was Morris Island which, after a two month siege, was captured. Even then, he couldn't take Fort Sumter. Sumter was pounded to rubble but the Confederates didn't evacuate until after Sherman approached from the South. |
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Yet the Westwall held him up for over a month. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” General George S. Patton , Jr. USA Yet the Westwall held him up for over a month. That was without sufficient Air power (climate) and with insufficient logistical support. Had Patton been given the logistical support lavished on Monty's failed Arnhem scheme, Patton probably could have been into Germany' guts in August-Sept '44. At least Patton thought so, and some others agree. As it was, Patton was forced to fight the slogging type of battle that he detested. Even so, he did not waste the lives of his troops like Bradley did in the Huertgen Forest, or in the Battle of the Bulge. Nor did he waste an enormous amount of time, and troops clearing the approaches to Antwerp, as did Monty. |
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Quoted: Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. |
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