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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:55:58 PM EDT
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Not just that, you learn about how motion works. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? Knowing how to operate multiple vehicles is never a bad thing. Not just that, you learn about how motion works. Most people are so childlike and willfully stupid that teaching them how to drive a stick is maybe number 127,892 on the list of things people should be forced to learn. If I was going to start forcing people to do stuff, I would have them read "1984" over and over until they actually understood it. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm all about forcing people to do things they may not want to do just because. This. WTF? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 5:59:22 PM EDT
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Most people are so childlike and willfully stupid that teaching them how to drive a stick is maybe number 127,892 on the list of things people should be forced to learn. If I was going to start forcing people to do stuff, I would have them read "1984" over and over until they actually understood it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? Knowing how to operate multiple vehicles is never a bad thing. Not just that, you learn about how motion works. Most people are so childlike and willfully stupid that teaching them how to drive a stick is maybe number 127,892 on the list of things people should be forced to learn. If I was going to start forcing people to do stuff, I would have them read "1984" over and over until they actually understood it. I was once one of those poor souls, but fate led me to the stick shift. I am thankful. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:03:38 PM EDT
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You can't force people to ride a motorcycle, you can only tax them for not riding one. Aaw so naive. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:03:41 PM EDT
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I just knew this thread was gonna get rapey.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:04:22 PM EDT
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No thanks.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:04:26 PM EDT
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Yes. January/February would be particularly entertaining. I ride year-round. Snow and ice isn't a problem with the right bike and a good heated riding suit. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:05:24 PM EDT
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Most people are so childlike and willfully stupid that teaching them how to drive a stick is maybe number 127,892 on the list of things people should be forced to learn. If I was going to start forcing people to do stuff, I would have them read "1984" over and over until they actually understood it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? Knowing how to operate multiple vehicles is never a bad thing. Not just that, you learn about how motion works. Most people are so childlike and willfully stupid that teaching them how to drive a stick is maybe number 127,892 on the list of things people should be forced to learn. If I was going to start forcing people to do stuff, I would have them read "1984" over and over until they actually understood it. No ones talking about forcing people to learn how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:05:27 PM EDT
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I had a motorcycle 20+ years ago (Yahama Seca 650)
Did not ride much, mostly due to a disdain for "helment hair" Jeep > motorcycle |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:07:50 PM EDT
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No way , I know what my use of the throttle is like in a car . On a bike I get carried away.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:07:54 PM EDT
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again, why? for what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? I don't know if the following is anything relative to what NY_Shooter was thinking, but learning to drive a stick is a very direct and intuitive method for learning how your car works, and what it's doing, when you press the pedal. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:13:07 PM EDT
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I don't know if the following is anything relative to what NY_Shooter was thinking, but learning to drive a stick is a very direct and intuitive method for learning how your car works, and what it's doing, when you press the pedal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? I don't know if the following is anything relative to what NY_Shooter was thinking, but learning to drive a stick is a very direct and intuitive method for learning how your car works, and what it's doing, when you press the pedal. Not what I was specifically thinking. I posted my reasons earlier. But either way, theres no legit reason NOT to learn. Refusing to learn, anything, is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:17:44 PM EDT
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No.
But seriously, sometimes I feel we'd be better off as a country if everyone were required to serve some time in the armed forces as a young adult, |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:18:19 PM EDT
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Not what I was specifically thinking. I posted my reasons earlier. But either way, theres no legit reason NOT to learn. Refusing to learn, anything, is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? I don't know if the following is anything relative to what NY_Shooter was thinking, but learning to drive a stick is a very direct and intuitive method for learning how your car works, and what it's doing, when you press the pedal. Not what I was specifically thinking. I posted my reasons earlier. But either way, theres no legit reason NOT to learn. Refusing to learn, anything, is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:18:50 PM EDT
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What an idiotic question.
There is no way in hell I would transport my two-year-old on a motorcycle. And considering I actually have THINGS in my truck... no. How about not "forcing" anyone to do anything? Sound awfully liberal. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:19:06 PM EDT
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -Robert A. Heinlein |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:19:28 PM EDT
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My dad always said you shouldn't be able to get your license until you drive a motorcycle 500 miles, and at the end of the 500 miles they give you the keys to an 18 wheeler and you have to drive it back to where you started. If you are 1. Still alive. 2. Ever want to drive again, have at it. Easy peasey. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHA! I know exactly where that is! |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:21:09 PM EDT
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Easy peasey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My dad always said you shouldn't be able to get your license until you drive a motorcycle 500 miles, and at the end of the 500 miles they give you the keys to an 18 wheeler and you have to drive it back to where you started. If you are 1. Still alive. 2. Ever want to drive again, have at it. Easy peasey. I want to learn to drive an 18-wheeler. I heard when you don't have a trailer you can haul ass. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:22:21 PM EDT
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Hell no. Most of these morons can't drive cars.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:23:30 PM EDT
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Okay, I'll bite; why is doing things you think I should learn, is pertinent to me? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? I don't know if the following is anything relative to what NY_Shooter was thinking, but learning to drive a stick is a very direct and intuitive method for learning how your car works, and what it's doing, when you press the pedal. Not what I was specifically thinking. I posted my reasons earlier. But either way, theres no legit reason NOT to learn. Refusing to learn, anything, is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Reasons why it would be good to know how to drive stick have already been posted. Now one of you guys give a good reason why one SHOULDNT learn. Again, keep in mind, as I said in my original post, Im not talking about forcing it onto people. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:24:45 PM EDT
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My dad always said you shouldn't be able to get your license until you drive a motorcycle 500 miles, and at the end of the 500 miles they give you the keys to an 18 wheeler and you have to drive it back to where you started. If you are 1. Still alive. 2. Ever want to drive again, have at it. that actually sounds good, having driven both, I have seen the idiotic things motorists of all flavors do on the road though I find young kids in shitty small cars are just about the worst for being crazy drivers |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:24:50 PM EDT
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Hell no. Most of these morons can't drive cars. Or ride a bike. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:24:58 PM EDT
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I can't agree to forcing someone to do something against their will.
Also, some people have no business on the road. Four wheels or two. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:25:26 PM EDT
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I want to learn to drive an 18-wheeler. I heard when you don't have a trailer you can haul ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My dad always said you shouldn't be able to get your license until you drive a motorcycle 500 miles, and at the end of the 500 miles they give you the keys to an 18 wheeler and you have to drive it back to where you started. If you are 1. Still alive. 2. Ever want to drive again, have at it. Easy peasey. I want to learn to drive an 18-wheeler. I heard when you don't have a trailer you can haul ass. You can haul ass with a trailer. Stopping in a hurry is kind of a bitch though. And yes bobtailed they will shit n get. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:26:41 PM EDT
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You can haul ass with a trailer. Stopping in a hurry is kind of a bitch though. And yes bobtailed they will shit n get. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My dad always said you shouldn't be able to get your license until you drive a motorcycle 500 miles, and at the end of the 500 miles they give you the keys to an 18 wheeler and you have to drive it back to where you started. If you are 1. Still alive. 2. Ever want to drive again, have at it. Easy peasey. I want to learn to drive an 18-wheeler. I heard when you don't have a trailer you can haul ass. You can haul ass with a trailer. Stopping in a hurry is kind of a bitch though. And yes bobtailed they will shit n get. I was about to say, you can haul ass with a trailer, just the manuevering, in a hurry, ain't so good.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:28:01 PM EDT
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Okay, I'll bite; why is doing things you think I should learn, is pertinent to me? Refused to learn in grammar school.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:28:26 PM EDT
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I wouldn't use the word force so much, but it would be awesome if it were a required skill to obtain a driver's license, even if it was just the 16 hour MSF course.
Where I live there are a great many weekend riders, so folks are somewhat used to seeing motorcyclist, and do look for them sometimes. Unfortunately you hear about folks getting killed pretty often during riding season, I haven't seen one yet that the majority of the fault belonged to the rider... |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:29:37 PM EDT
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Hell no. Most of these morons can't drive cars. Or ride a bike. These people seriously exist? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:30:17 PM EDT
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I think all new drivers should have to learn to drive a stick shift
and take their driving test with one. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:43:39 PM EDT
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I think all new drivers should have to learn to drive a stick shift and take their driving test with one. Using a stick doesn't give you a better understanding of your vehicle, but experience just driving alone does. I've driven in snow, flash floods, hail storms, fog, desert, jungles, and amphib operations while crossing rivers while in the service and on my own. Experience, is the greatest teacher, not a style of driving. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:47:45 PM EDT
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Everyone in this country should be forced to learn by doing the following
-Drive a car -Ride a motorcycle -Shoot a rifle -Shoot a pistol -Basic maintenance on the above 4 -Basic fire fighting -Some sort of useful martial art -First aid -Read maps -Second language All of this can be taught in high school. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:16:31 PM EDT
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Darwin would need to hire a lot more help.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone in this country should be forced to learn by doing the following -Drive a car -Ride a motorcycle -Shoot a rifle -Shoot a pistol -Basic maintenance on the above 4 -Basic fire fighting -Some sort of useful martial art -First aid -Read maps -Second language All of this can be taught in high school. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:18:29 PM EDT
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Yes, a thousand times fuck yes.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it would be awesome if you did a bunch of people at once and they all had to follow the same route. Could make a comedy TV show Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My dad always said you shouldn't be able to get your license until you drive a motorcycle 500 miles, and at the end of the 500 miles they give you the keys to an 18 wheeler and you have to drive it back to where you started. If you are 1. Still alive. 2. Ever want to drive again, have at it. How many points for hitting the newbs riding bikes on the way back with the tractor trailer? Yeah it would be awesome if you did a bunch of people at once and they all had to follow the same route. Could make a comedy TV show |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:21:37 PM EDT
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Can it be the motorcycle of my choice and I keep it afterwards?
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:24:03 PM EDT
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Can it be the motorcycle of my choice and I keep it afterwards? I got 100 on my motorcycle permit test. DMV lady said "Hey! If you get 100, you get a free motorcycle!".
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:25:50 PM EDT
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Everyone in this country should be forced to learn by doing the following -Drive a car -Ride a motorcycle -Shoot a rifle -Shoot a pistol -Basic maintenance on the above 4 -Basic fire fighting -Some sort of useful martial art -First aid -Read maps -Second language All of this can be taught in high school. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:30:13 PM EDT
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Even though every family won't admit it, but we all have retards we wouldn't trust with just three of the first four you mentioned. Good well intentioned thinking, but bad judgement there on the whole picture as a hole because you didn't weigh in the pro's and con's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone in this country should be forced to learn by doing the following -Drive a car -Ride a motorcycle -Shoot a rifle -Shoot a pistol -Basic maintenance on the above 4 -Basic fire fighting -Some sort of useful martial art -First aid -Read maps -Second language All of this can be taught in high school. There is no room for failure. They will just have to keep trying until they get it. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:33:18 PM EDT
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I'm trying to imagine the average 40-year-old woman trying to drive a motorcycle.
Something tells me that automatic motorcycle sales would skyrocket. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:34:30 PM EDT
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There is no room for failure. They will just have to keep trying until they get it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone in this country should be forced to learn by doing the following -Drive a car -Ride a motorcycle -Shoot a rifle -Shoot a pistol -Basic maintenance on the above 4 -Basic fire fighting -Some sort of useful martial art -First aid -Read maps -Second language All of this can be taught in high school. There is no room for failure. They will just have to keep trying until they get it. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:36:04 PM EDT
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So you favor natural selection and shortened then normal life spans, I presume? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone in this country should be forced to learn by doing the following -Drive a car -Ride a motorcycle -Shoot a rifle -Shoot a pistol -Basic maintenance on the above 4 -Basic fire fighting -Some sort of useful martial art -First aid -Read maps -Second language All of this can be taught in high school. There is no room for failure. They will just have to keep trying until they get it. I favor the above list be to taken seriously. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:40:14 PM EDT
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? the same reason that you learn lots of stuff,just in case. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:46:14 PM EDT
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the same reason that you learn lots of stuff,just in case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forced? Of course not. That being said, it wouldnt hurt to learn. Same way I think everyone should know how to drive stick. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile again, why? for what? the same reason that you learn lots of stuff,just in case. Youd think preparing for "just in case" scenarios wouldnt be so surprising on a forum related to guns and general self defense scenarios. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:48:52 PM EDT
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Sure lets make people drive motorcycles and prius as well and ride bicycles....its for the children.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:51:13 PM EDT
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I favor the above list be to taken seriously. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone in this country should be forced to learn by doing the following -Drive a car -Ride a motorcycle -Shoot a rifle -Shoot a pistol -Basic maintenance on the above 4 -Basic fire fighting -Some sort of useful martial art -First aid -Read maps -Second language All of this can be taught in high school. There is no room for failure. They will just have to keep trying until they get it. I favor the above list be to taken seriously. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:57:09 PM EDT
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This sounds creepy, in a raping kind of way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm all about forcing people to do things they may not want to do just because. This sounds creepy, in a raping kind of way. Perversion isn't the picture of the naked girl, it's what happens in your mind when you see it. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:58:38 PM EDT
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I do think that everyone should be forced to wear leather chaps.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:59:05 PM EDT
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I think so. You would have fun. It would put a completely different perspective on peoples' minds and make the world a different place. I think fascists who would force me to utilized a particular form of transportation should be shot in the knees then fed into a wood chipper. |
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