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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:13:36 AM EDT
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Yeah models have gotten very expensive. I think the quality has gone up on some of them, but many are the same old molds in new boxes.
Adults can pay for a more expensive hobby, but it has got to be tough on a kid to come up with 20-30 dollars for even a basic model. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:15:32 AM EDT
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I was just thinking the other day that I hadn't built a model since I was a kid. I almost stopped into Hobbytown the other day to snag one, for fun. It's a shame they've gotten so pricey.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:20:54 AM EDT
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Yes, I don't think I've built any since 1989, and probably not since 1984 when I did a Mk III and Mk IV, a half track, armored car, and an Opel truck with flak 20....and I've been dreaming of increasing that "unit" for decades. Those are still around me, somewhat the worse for wear but repairable, having followed me around for years.
Isn't that the equation, though. Have the money.....but not the time. _________________________________ ("If you've got the time, we've got the beer."––(wtte), Miller beer commercial) |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:22:55 AM EDT
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Do you have any pictures of your collection?
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:47:11 AM EDT
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Do you have any pictures of your collection? Afraid not and as it stands now, it looks something more like the day after the battle was lost, hatches blown, accessories and MG's detached, soldiers broken pieces on the ground. This is the gun (think I said above a 37 cm, sorry) that I've bought up: 
Think I tried building one for my first halftrack 
decades ago, but it didn't turn out well. As it is, the above is the types I've been buying up but I have a few versions sitting around, one built, one partially built......that was something of a disaster because the treads were piece by piece plastic to be assembled, and maybe some from years ago unbuilt (more on those later). Think I built the IV 
as a long barrel and the III 
with a short barrel......may have them confused. The armored car is this one: (this is not my model) 
The Opel truck with the flak 20 didn't turn out well, it was the poor woman's attempt to create something like this, 
(again, not my model) to add some more firepower to the column. The unbuilts include an Airwolf, a Walker Bulldog 
an F-105G Wild Weasel, an MBB-105 that I was planning to do with a Marine TOW team for an insertion.......just never got around for it. They sit, waiting, in a closet or two. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:48:38 AM EDT
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I have a hard time spending that kind of money for 1/18 scale assembled stuff, let alone smaller scale unassembled.
I like it, but not that much. Some repaints: My North African contingent: 
PaK40 w/ crew: 
Unfinished attempt to turn a Sdkfz 251 Ausf D into an Ausf C: 
Poor attempt at weathering: 
My North Africa armor: 
I also have a 1/18 scale 88mm Flak that I negelected to photograph. When these were available in Walmart, the PaK (and most vehicles not including tanks) went for $25. The Panzer IVs were RC once upon a time and went for ~$40 IIRC. Troops were $5 each. Got a good number on clearance. Whoops. Almost forgot the aircraft. 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:51:12 AM EDT
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Tamiya's box art always looked way, way better than the actual kit.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:53:37 AM EDT
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Do you have any pictures of your collection? Afraid not and as it stands now, it looks something more like the day after the battle was lost, hatches blown, accessories and MG's detached, soldiers broken pieces on the ground. This is the gun (think I said above a 37 cm, sorry) that I've bought up: http://www.tlacanada.com/TLA/TLA%20JPEG/Historex/H%20-%20German%20Anti-Tank.jpg Think I tried building one for my first halftrack http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit%20Photos/Tamiya/Tamiya%201-35%20Hanomag/box.jpg decades ago, but it didn't turn out well. As it is, the above is the types I've been buying up but I have a few versions sitting around, one built, one partially built......that was something of a disaster because the treads were piece by piece plastic to be assembled, and maybe some from years ago unbuilt (more on those later). Think I built the IV http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit%20Photos/Tamiya/tamiya%20panzer%20kampfwagen%20iv/tamiya%20panzer%20kampfwagen%20iv%20box1.jpg as a long barrel and the III http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/kits/images/tamiyaafv/mm111panzerkampfwageniii.JPG with a short barrel......may have them confused. The armored car is this one: (this is not my model) http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/images/modelkits/TA35268.jpg The Opel truck with the flak 20 didn't turn out well, it was the poor woman's attempt to create something like this, http://static.hlj.com/images/trp/trp01523.jpg (again, not my model) to add some more firepower to the column. The unbuilts include an Airwolf, a Walker Bulldog http://robshobbiesandtoys.com/images/TamiyaUSTankM41WalkerBulldog.jpg an F-105G Wild Weasel, an MBB-105 that I was planning to do with a Marine TOW team for an insertion.......just never got around for it. They sit, waiting, in a closet or two. Those are extremely old kits. Tamiya has been selling them for decades. Fun builds, but nothing compared to their newer kits, which are phenomenal. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:57:09 AM EDT
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That's the main reason I got out of it..............too expensive
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:59:28 AM EDT
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That's the main reason I got out of it..............too expensive Well, it seems that people on this list partake in expensive hobbies, one way or another, doesn't it? |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 4:59:29 AM EDT
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Do you have any pictures of your collection? Afraid not and as it stands now, it looks something more like the day after the battle was lost, hatches blown, accessories and MG's detached, soldiers broken pieces on the ground. This is the gun (think I said above a 37 cm, sorry) that I've bought up: http://www.tlacanada.com/TLA/TLA%20JPEG/Historex/H%20-%20German%20Anti-Tank.jpg Think I tried building one for my first halftrack http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit%20Photos/Tamiya/Tamiya%201-35%20Hanomag/box.jpg decades ago, but it didn't turn out well. As it is, the above is the types I've been buying up but I have a few versions sitting around, one built, one partially built......that was something of a disaster because the treads were piece by piece plastic to be assembled, and maybe some from years ago unbuilt (more on those later). Think I built the IV http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit%20Photos/Tamiya/tamiya%20panzer%20kampfwagen%20iv/tamiya%20panzer%20kampfwagen%20iv%20box1.jpg as a long barrel and the III http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/kits/images/tamiyaafv/mm111panzerkampfwageniii.JPG with a short barrel......may have them confused. The armored car is this one: (this is not my model) http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/images/modelkits/TA35268.jpg The Opel truck with the flak 20 didn't turn out well, it was the poor woman's attempt to create something like this, http://static.hlj.com/images/trp/trp01523.jpg (again, not my model) to add some more firepower to the column. The unbuilts include an Airwolf, a Walker Bulldog http://robshobbiesandtoys.com/images/TamiyaUSTankM41WalkerBulldog.jpg an F-105G Wild Weasel, an MBB-105 that I was planning to do with a Marine TOW team for an insertion.......just never got around for it. They sit, waiting, in a closet or two. I had the frist two kits when I was younger. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:04:01 AM EDT
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Yes they do...........and between models and guns, I couldnt swing both of them on my salary, so guns it was, though models are still interesting........maybe someday I might get back into it.......but those picks above are very well done, and makes me want to build again
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That's the main reason I got out of it..............too expensive Well, it seems that people on this list partake in expensive hobbies, one way or another, doesn't it? |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:04:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Awesome
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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:12:17 AM EDT
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I've collected Warhammer stuff for almost 15 years now (sporadically, and not in massive quantities), and I certainly know how models can drain the old wallet!
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:03:11 AM EDT
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While the models have increased in price, so have the quality of the kits. The overall mold design and details are lightyears beyond what they were in the early 80s with a few exceptions. The mold lines are crisper and the fit on most requires little to no gap filling. Now throw in the mutimedia parts such as metal/photo-etch/resin and super high quality decals and you have a expensive from the box kit. I remember years ago if you wanted to build a model to the same as today's average kit, you would have to spend just as much on after-market parts and decals.
I think the industry has done itself in by this as we now have a generation of kids who will never get into the hobby because who really wants to spend $50 for your 5 year old to build a model airplane. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:14:35 AM EDT
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I have Xbox.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:15:25 AM EDT
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Don't get me started on Games Workshop model prices!
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:20:52 AM EDT
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I will not let ARFCOM talk me into buying more stuff!!!
YOU WILL NOT TOUCH MY BANK ACCOUNT! Ordered this because of another thread http://www.nitroplanes.com/p51-mustang-arf.html |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:26:59 AM EDT
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I thought that this thread was about something else.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:46:49 AM EDT
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When oil was at it's peak a couple years back, models jumped way up in price, and haven't come back down to adjust for the decrease in the price of petroleum, not to mention, Tamiya and Hasegawa are absurdly expensive anyways, and unfortunately there are limited choices for certain subjects, in regards to other manuf.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:47:56 AM EDT
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Been slowly increasing my Afrika Corps mobilized infantry stock. Towed 37MM with half tracks (so crucify me if I don't use the proper designation). Those half been running from Tamiya about $8 for the cannons and $18 for the half tracks. Was in the store yesterday for something else and glanced, since I have plenty now as it is, at them. Cannons are now $18 and halftracks are now $77. Glad I bought when I did. The only thing I can guess is that what I was buying was an older model version that they wanted to clear out. I don't think it was the cost of oil for such a jump in price since Tamiya has never really known to be cheap and those before prices were really under cost compared to other Tamiya models. Thoughts? ____________________________________________________ ("It's heavy, man!"––-old farmer about some juice product, (w,stte), a commercial) What scale? Oh, and here... http://www.squadron.com/ ... save some money or, depending how expensive a hobby this is for you, maybe not. 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:50:25 AM EDT
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Build em'... the dust-bunnies won't do it for ya'. 
True enough but as with most things, there's an end problem as well as problems up front. Where to put them, once done? When I first got out of the Navy, I didn't have much, and could put them on top of my book shelf, first at mid level then at high level. There were moments when a cat might get up there and run licky split the opposite of the coloum direction as I'm saying "No!" and firing a squirt gun. Sigh.....that was years ago. Now, my world has the shelves stacked to the ceiling with books and things and currently, there is no place to make a coloum........or a tank screen ambush. I have thought about getting some pine and making "shelves" like cross beams at near ceiling level. It's workable, take a little time, but also, really puts them out of appreciable view, close up, unless one sticks their head up there. Quoted:
What scale? Oh, and here... http://www.squadron.com/ ... save some money or, depending how expensive a hobby this is for you, maybe not.
Mmmmmm, "the squadron shop"! I don't think I've seen an ad for them since I stopped getting Scale Modeler as a child. 1/30-1/35. Quoted:..... I think the industry has done itself in by this as we now have a generation of kids who will never get into the hobby because who really wants to spend $50 for your 5 year old to build a model airplane.
That an interesting....and probably an unpleasantly accurate appraisal. What do you think we might be losing because of that? What does building models give us? On one side, I'd say the ability to picture, dream, and create. To have something that we can live in another world with. It might also teach us how to follow detailed directions, perhaps even to the point that we can write our own (instead, we get stuck with those who can't write). It might also have something to do with my work in deception since I have an apprection of how to make representations of what people expect, but that's just a quick guess. _________________________________________________________ (Koenig comes in to find natural pilot Mike Baxter with an airplane model in his hand, flying around the room, making airplane noises. "Well, I see you're feeling better, Mike!", (w,stte), Space: 1999 "End of Eternity") |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:53:02 AM EDT
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Do you have any pictures of your collection? Afraid not and as it stands now, it looks something more like the day after the battle was lost, hatches blown, accessories and MG's detached, soldiers broken pieces on the ground. This is the gun (think I said above a 37 cm, sorry) that I've bought up: http://www.tlacanada.com/TLA/TLA%20JPEG/Historex/H%20-%20German%20Anti-Tank.jpg Think I tried building one for my first halftrack http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit%20Photos/Tamiya/Tamiya%201-35%20Hanomag/box.jpg decades ago, but it didn't turn out well. As it is, the above is the types I've been buying up but I have a few versions sitting around, one built, one partially built......that was something of a disaster because the treads were piece by piece plastic to be assembled, and maybe some from years ago unbuilt (more on those later). Think I built the IV http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit%20Photos/Tamiya/tamiya%20panzer%20kampfwagen%20iv/tamiya%20panzer%20kampfwagen%20iv%20box1.jpg as a long barrel and the III http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/kits/images/tamiyaafv/mm111panzerkampfwageniii.JPG with a short barrel......may have them confused. The armored car is this one: (this is not my model) SdKfz 222 http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/images/modelkits/TA35268.jpg The Opel truck with the flak 20 didn't turn out well, it was the poor woman's attempt to create something like this, http://static.hlj.com/images/trp/trp01523.jpg (again, not my model) to add some more firepower to the column. SdKfz 10/7 20mm Flak were successfully used by the SS to engage Russian T-34s in the streets of Kharkov (firing AP ammo). The unbuilts include an Airwolf, a Walker Bulldog http://robshobbiesandtoys.com/images/TamiyaUSTankM41WalkerBulldog.jpg an F-105G Wild Weasel, an MBB-105 that I was planning to do with a Marine TOW team for an insertion.......just never got around for it. They sit, waiting, in a closet or two. Build em'... the dust-bunnies won't do it for ya'.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:55:28 AM EDT
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I will not let ARFCOM talk me into buying more stuff!!! YOU WILL NOT TOUCH MY BANK ACCOUNT! Ordered this because of another thread http://www.nitroplanes.com/p51-mustang-arf.html  
Know that feeling. 
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:55:32 AM EDT
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Does anyone produce scale models of firearms? I would love to build a 1/4 scale M-14
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Posted: 9/12/2010 7:57:59 AM EDT
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What scale? Oh, and here... http://www.squadron.com/ ... save some money or, depending how expensive a hobby this is for you, maybe not.
Mmmmmm, "the squadron shop"! I don't think I've seen an ad for them since I stopped getting Scale Modeler as a child. 1/30-1/35. Quoted:..... I think the industry has done itself in by this as we now have a generation of kids who will never get into the hobby because who really wants to spend $50 for your 5 year old to build a model airplane.
That an interesting....and probably an unpleasantly accurate appraisal. What do you think we might be losing because of that? What does building models give us? On one side, I'd say the ability to picture, dream, and create. To have something that we can live in another world with. It might also teach us how to follow detailed directions, perhaps even to the point that we can write our own (instead, we get stuck with those who can't write). It might also have something to do with my work in deception since I have an apprection of how to make representations of what people expect, but that's just a quick guess. _________________________________________________________ (Koenig comes in to find natural pilot Mike Baxter with an airplane model in his hand, flying around the room, making airplane noises. "Well, I see you're feeling better, Mike!", (w,stte), Space: 1999 "End of Eternity") Just a mouse-click away and you too can have it all. Do it... do it... do it...
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:03:06 AM EDT
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Just a mouse-click away and you too can have it all. Do it... do it... do it...
Need to hold off a little right now. Bought 4 seasons of the original "Columbo" yesterday for about $72. Living in yesteryear is expensive.....................but worth it! _________________________________________________ ("It's impossible......but doable."––"Mac", (w,stte), "Entrapment") |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:14:21 AM EDT
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well hell, I can't judge...I satisfy my very personal yearnings by fighting people. Your hobby doesn't give you black eyes....so Each to his own.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:16:38 AM EDT
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Was in Hobby Lobby yesterday looking for stencils, and I always drop by the model section to see what they have. A few Tamiya kits, in particular a King Tiger and a Panther. I think they were about 40 bucks each. I have been out of model building for a good while, so it was kinda surprising.
Also saw a Revell kit of the USS Missouri, I forget the scale, but it was a pretty long box, so I imagine the model will be a couple feet long, maybe more. Sticker shock, though....$99.95. Would love to be able to get back into it, but between my guns, a Jeep CJ and now a Deuce and a half, I don't think I can afford any more hobbies. LC |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:20:56 AM EDT
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Well, GW stuff is horribly expensive.
I've collected Warhammer stuff for almost 15 years now (sporadically, and not in massive quantities), and I certainly know how models can drain the old wallet! |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:32:12 AM EDT
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As I remember it, way back when the prices skyrocketed in the 70's I was told, or somehow assumed, that since the plastic industry was dominated by dino oil at the time, oil prices drove model prices...
This may not be true, but it seemed logical. I very much enjoyed the hobby and have had thoughts on getting back into it. I still have my old air brushes, compressor and most of my tools. I used to visit Valley Plaza hobby shop in North Hollywood, Cali and gaze at the exhibition quality models in the big windows. I got into the figurines and 1/72 scale armor kits back then too. Do you guys buy most of your kits online, and could you post some good links to your favorite online dealers? |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:33:27 AM EDT
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I started ordering from Squadron Mail Order years ago when my local hobby shops started going under, and before that, I noticed some prices had doubled or tripled for some kits. I also started re-living my childhood by buying up models from the 70's on ebay.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:36:23 AM EDT
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I started ordering from Squadron Mail Order years ago when my local hobby shops started going under, and before that, I noticed some prices had doubled or tripled for some kits. I also started re-living my childhood by buying up models from the 70's on ebay. I'm glad you mentioned Squadron...they are still around! Just found their website. Seemed they were on the edge of offering the highest quality supplies and kits back then. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 9:00:27 AM EDT
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Let me know exactly what you are looking for. I bought out a hobby stores inventory a few yrs ago at an auction. Alot of the Tamiya stuff I have already got rid of but may have some still buried.
Edit: I see from your post what you are looking for. I will check in the coming days when I have chance to see if I have any. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 9:14:52 AM EDT
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fortunately I have a good back stock of stuff I collected over the years. It has gotten terribly expensive to where I only buy when its a steal as I cant afford more. I used to do all 1/35 but now Im more into 1/16 or 120mm
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Posted: 9/12/2010 9:52:03 AM EDT
[#36]
cool models.......paint your walls.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:01:48 AM EDT
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Model building is my winter hobby...unfortunately, the rising price of the kits have driven me to cut back building them.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:04:23 AM EDT
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I gave up trying to build models decades ago because I sucked at building them, but I do love them.
Now, I buy the die cast, already assembled display models. 
I have several tanks and aircraft. ETA: I also have some phillipine mahogany aircraft models, including a big Ju-87 Stuka with "Rudel's Serpent" on it. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:05:07 AM EDT
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i usedo build the cheap classic cars and such. never was good but it was a good reality break. i used to buy them for under 10.00, 15.00 was an expensive one. same one i built are now pushing 20.00. i just stopped buying them and quit. have better things to spend that kind of money on.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:08:20 AM EDT
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I've got plenty of unbuilt models that are sitting around collecting dust. Be happy to unload them for a fair price.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:15:02 AM EDT
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I haven't built a model since maybe 1979 or 80. Back then a Tamiya kit was a high dollar kit. They were the best, most realistic, most detailed. I don't know if that is still the case, but when you want the best, you pay a high price. Revell or Monogram kits were cheap and you needed real skill to make them look good.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:31:44 AM EDT
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Did you go into Hobbytown, OP??
I recently got back into modeling (1/48 WWII aircraft). There are a couple of hobby shops as well as Hobby Lobby close by. The model prices were pretty close to where they were when I was a kid in the late 80's early 90's, even for Tamiya. However, I went into Hobbytown the other day for the first time and the prices were extremely high. I don't know if it was markup, rarity or what but they looked some 2-3 times higher than similar models at my usual stops. I bought my first model in 20ish years a couple of months ago. A Tamiya 1/48 F-51 (P-51 with different markings, confirmed) for 15.00. ETA: Now some of the rare Hasegawa kits can be pricey. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:34:21 AM EDT
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Models are great, I spent most of my money as a kid on them... started out with ww1 planes, ended up enjoying ww2 and modern 1/35 scale the most.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:35:58 AM EDT
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I wonder about the "weathering". Could dropping the parts in a case tumbler produce a realistic effect?
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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:06:31 AM EDT
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cool models.......paint your walls. First set was taken after the room was painted. It's all moot since we moved out about two weeks ago. Wood paneling now.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:08:48 AM EDT
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I wonder about the "weathering". Could dropping the parts in a case tumbler produce a realistic effect? That's an interesting idea, but I have no idea if it would work. My only attempt was on the anti-tank gun. I decided to leave well enough alone after that. Those that can weather are artists in my opinion. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:15:21 AM EDT
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i have a couple of models laying around still in the boxes (most of them i started work on, but haven't finished) if you want. two of them are german WWII models. one is of a Tiger tank with all of the internals (engine, crew stations, etc) and the other is of a half-track with a rocket launcher on the back. i also have some pieces that are finished if you want them. just let me know.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:25:07 AM EDT
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I wonder about the "weathering". Could dropping the parts in a case tumbler produce a realistic effect? Maybe. Perhaps on some parts. But overall I think you might end up with certain areas weathered that you didn't want and vice versa. Be worth a try on a junk model though. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:25:28 AM EDT
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ARGH
The oft dreaded and much feared 'double tap'. |
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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:58:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I wonder about the "weathering". Could dropping the parts in a case tumbler produce a realistic effect? That's an interesting idea, but I have no idea if it would work. My only attempt was on the anti-tank gun. I decided to leave well enough alone after that. Those that can weather are artists in my opinion. My only attempt at painting was miniature lead figurines. I did some "washes" and dry brushing, and that produced some cool effects. For example, black primer and a silver dry brush makes a pretty neat looking gun metal effect on miniature rifles. |
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