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Posted: 8/4/2003 6:42:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2003 6:47:52 PM EDT by Tank243]
I know that most of you will probably have awful opinions of the Mini-14, but I'd still like to hear what you think of them. I think that they are a good carbine for plinking and I also think that they are very dependable.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 6:58:53 PM EDT
Surely someone wants to comment.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 7:08:43 PM EDT
get ready for some flames.


Personally, i like my Mini-14GB.

I must be the only one. Everyone else on this boad will flame the mini-14 to no end.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 7:13:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2003 7:13:44 PM EDT by Morpheus]
I politely suggest you do a search. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 7:35:13 PM EDT
There weren't any topics like this one within the past 30 days, so please post your opinions, if you would.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 7:49:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2003 7:52:34 PM EDT by Morpheus]
OK, sorry. I forgot you can't do a search if you aren't a paying member. Here's a few...

Sold my AR-15 for a Ruger Mini-14 (100 posts)
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=166744&w=searchPop

sar3 or mini-14? (16 posts)
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=169383&w=searchPop

How accurate can you get a Mini-14? (11 posts)
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=185901&w=searchPop

Mini-14 problems (15 posts)
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=168038&w=searchPop
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 8:04:54 PM EDT
Thanks a lot.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 8:36:07 PM EDT
I've bought a like new stainless mini-14 and got the original mag and 2 after market 20 round mags. The rifle and the org. 5 round mag are fine. Rifle operates fine. The 20 rd. mags suck. The way you have to tilt the mag to insert it in to the mag well is cumbersome at best. I have other rifles that are not AR-15's.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 9:13:08 PM EDT
The Mini-14: EXCELLENT action and a $9 barrel. (Can be made into a very accurate weapon but you're gonna have to spend money starting with replacing the POS barrel.)
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 9:21:06 PM EDT
never had any problems with my stainless 184 series. I don't clean it much just swab the bore. once in a while I spray carb cleaner on the bolt and trigger group, let it dry and slop a little STP on the bolt ways trigger group and oprod. It's been very dependable considering how I treat it and the amount off use it's seen over the years.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 10:24:09 PM EDT
I owned one years ago and got rid of it. They are okay.They aren't tackdrivers but great plinkers and they go bang every time you pull the trigger. The only problem is now good pre ban magazines (like PMI's) are $$$$$$. A co worker bought one and needed magazines... so far he has one 30rd PMI @ $50.00... hey at least it works....unlike those $10-$15 aftermarket magazines.
Link Posted: 8/4/2003 10:39:35 PM EDT
YEA, the Mini got the short end of the stick on the hi cap ban.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 2:15:24 AM EDT

The only problem is now good pre ban magazines (like PMI's) are $$$$$$. A co worker bought one and needed magazines... so far he has one 30rd PMI @ $50.00

Numrich sells new PMI magazines for $31 each.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 10:02:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2003 10:05:48 AM EDT by AR15fan]
I bought my Mini-14 for $298.00 NIB from B&E Guns in Cypress in 1998.

It is totally reliable with M193 Spec ammo and good magazines. Good magazines are PMI, Thermold, and Ruger. Thermold being my first choice.

Mine will hit a 12" gong at 200 yards 60 of 60 tries, firing one round per second. Others say their guns shoot worse as it heats up. Mine apparently doesnt have as much problem with that as most.

It's easy to mount a tac light on a Mini-14. I'm using a Surefire UTL with a M14 Brl Mount on mine.

Even with a Surefire light and a 30 round Thermold magazine inserted, the Mini-14 looks less threatening than an AR of any type.

Some will complain that good mags are expensive. I disagree. I paid anywhere from $15.00 to $25.00 each for my PMI & Thermold mags. You have to shop around, just like with AR mags. Pawn shops and small gun shops have given me the best results.

BTW; a Ruger Ranch Rifle is NOT a Mini-14. Neither is a Mini-30. I am very happy with my Mini-14, but hated my Ranch Rifle.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 12:44:46 PM EDT
I own a 196-series Rancher that is a joy to shoot. Blued with a wood stock, and a half dozen John Masen Co 30 round mags. Very reliable action, no jams or FTE's in over 500 rounds, although it dents casings off of the charging handle after extraction (due to fast or excessive recoil?). It is around 4-5" groups at 100 yards with M193 Olympic NPA-01 .223 (among the crappiest .223 ammo). No problems with the mags, iron sights, and near future plans include a Choate stock, forward scout-style scope mount and an aimpoint-style optic or low power scope.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 1:44:22 PM EDT

BTW; a Ruger Ranch Rifle is NOT a Mini-14. Neither is a Mini-30. I am very happy with my Mini-14, but hated my Ranch Rifle.


What was wrong with your Ranch Rifle AR15fan? Seems like the recoil buffer, ring mounts, and free rings would be a good thing. Is there something I don't know about the Ranch Rifle?
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 2:37:23 PM EDT
I had Mini-14's long before I started playing with AR15's.

The Mini-14 is very reliable with PMI mags. In fact, they run 100% with these mags. It does not matter if they are 20, 30, or 40 rnd mags, they all run well.

The worst features, as far as accuracy, are the thin barrel and loose wood stock. A heavier barrel is very expensive, and I just don't know why Ruger will not use a better barrel, or at least offer it as an option.

The loose wood stock is an easy fix... the Choate Zytel stocks work wonders, and will cut your group size in half. With scope and Choate stock (I prefer the Choate pistol grip model), you can get under 2" at 100 yds easily.

The Mini-14 can function reliably much longer than an AR15 without cleaning, and little lubrication. The stainless is ideal as a "trunk gun" or behind the seat of the pickup.

For what it is intended, a very lightweight carbine, it is excellent. For nocturnal social work around the house, again, excellent and reliable.

Yes, I also recommend M193 from UMC, Federal, or Winchester. Works well with SA battle pack, too.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 2:43:50 PM EDT
I have a Mini-14 ranch. I the only problem I find annoying is the rear sight. You have to fold down the rear sight in order to mount your optic with the Ruger supplied rings. If you forget to fold them down, and you aren't using optics, they break. I've switched to a Williams Sight that is specifically made for the Mini-14 Ranch.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 2:49:13 PM EDT
Some good Mini talk here, perfectunion.com/forums/
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 2:58:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SOE_Eagle:

BTW; a Ruger Ranch Rifle is NOT a Mini-14. Neither is a Mini-30. I am very happy with my Mini-14, but hated my Ranch Rifle.


What was wrong with your Ranch Rifle AR15fan?


The rear sight is fragile, the disassembly is more complex than the Mini-14, due to the different ejector parts. The stronger, anngle ejection really tears up the brass. A scoped Ranche Rifle doesnt have the sleek light weight fast handling characrteristics of a Mini-14.
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 4:52:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 5:19:38 PM EDT
What other rifles in that caliber do you suggest? I might be buying a rifle soon, and I am considering a Mini-14 (not for competition or anything, usually just plinking). Any suggestions?
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 5:35:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2003 5:38:24 PM EDT by Lumpy196]
Ive owned two over the years and sold both of them off.

They were both utterly reliable with FACTORY hi-caps. I prefer the AR15 system though, because its more adaptable to optics. Personally, Ive always felt that the Mini-14 with 20 round mags was an ideal general issue long arm for police officers (most of whom dont care about guns in the least - let alone learning them). Simple to operate. No high sight over bore axis to have to compensate for on head shots and no having to remember to clear the muzzle when behind barricade (having seen a Crown Vic with its hood creased with a .223).
Link Posted: 8/5/2003 5:38:23 PM EDT
I give you the MOA Mini 14 in 6x45mm:

Link Posted: 8/6/2003 6:35:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/6/2003 8:28:14 AM EDT
Very nice rifle there Dandy. I have to ask though, why change the caliber?
Link Posted: 8/6/2003 8:38:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/6/2003 12:02:52 PM EDT

Very nice rifle there Dandy. I have to ask though, why change the caliber?

Thank you. At the time I wanted something a little different than what everyone else was using. Something with all of the positives of the .223 Remington/5.56 NATO, but none of the negatives. The 6x45mm (AKA 6mm/.223) has all of that. It can drive an 85 grain bullet at 2800 FPS and is just as straight forward to load as the parent .223 case.



Hm. Where didja get that laminate stock?

Mike Turner of Turner Customs made it up for me a few years back. I have a second in coffee birch if you're interested.
Link Posted: 8/6/2003 7:21:49 PM EDT
Mini-14's are pretty cheap, used at the shows.

I bought two Ranch rifles in stainless, and they will bounce a pop can around reliably at 100 yards. They always feed and fire using milsurp or commercial ammo.

I bought a poorly sized bunch of gunshow reloads that my AR-15 and Valmet choked on, but the Mini-14 gobbled it up.

The factory mags are the best. It's a reliable rifle, will not draw a crowd of curiosity seekers, and the pre-bans are not any more expensive than a new one. Buy a pre-ban with the folding stock and flash suppressor if you can.
Link Posted: 8/6/2003 7:59:13 PM EDT
My first center fire rifle was a Mini-14. I found that I wasn't very accurate with it at all. I figured it was me ... that was until I bought my first (of many ) AR's.

For the first 18 months here in California I wasn't permitted to bring my AR's into the state. I broke out my Mini and shot it for the first time in several years and discovered that I was right - I couldn't - rather the rifle could hit shit. I was use to being able to hit an 8" paper plate on the first shot from 100 yards out to a pretty good distance. I was lucky to hit the plate at 100 yards.

Now that some of my AR's are here ... the Mini-14 is buried in the back of the safe where it belongs.
Link Posted: 8/8/2003 6:23:43 PM EDT
I love my mini-14 with a scope and looking to purchase another to use without a scope.

Great plinking gun and very reliable.
Link Posted: 8/8/2003 7:45:19 PM EDT
Mini's rock, isn't that what the A-Team used???
Link Posted: 8/8/2003 8:12:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2003 8:14:24 PM EDT by ArmaLiter]
I have a black synthetic 196 series Ranch model. My only complaints on it is that it is difficult to make precise adjustments to the cheap flip up rear sights so either some type of after-market sights made for the Mini-14 or a decent scope or red dot, which I have on now, would be a benefit to the rifle. The rifle also ejects its empty brass casings at enormous distance and anyone standing or sitting within 25 yards on the right of you is going to get popped with hot brass.

Otherwise it's a decent rifle. Not a very accurate rifle to what you would expect in AR15 standards, but it is still a decent inexpensive "all-purpose" semi-auto.
I've added a pistol grip stock to mine and I enjoy it more with the feel of the pistol grip than I did with the conventional stock.

ArmaLiter
Link Posted: 8/9/2003 8:37:13 PM EDT
It throws brass 25 to 30 feet, but not anywhere near 25 yards. (I assume that you meant feet, but you never know....)
Link Posted: 8/10/2003 5:32:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tank243:
It throws brass 25 to 30 feet, but not anywhere near 25 yards. (I assume that you meant feet, but you never know....)



Yeah, I did exaggerate a bit . 25-30ft is more what I was thinking of, but that still is enough to have to keep a distance away from other shooters at the range or force them to stay away from you.

ArmaLiter
Link Posted: 8/10/2003 11:03:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2003 10:07:34 PM EDT
Will the rifle be worse the wear if left alone raf? I don't reload or mind denting brass. If Ruger were to ever produce a parkerized mini, with a chromed HBAR, and better iron sights, it could surpass AR sales. JMHO

C
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 2:15:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/11/2003 8:58:44 PM EDT
my brother loves his mini, while it's not as accurate as my AR, it runs like a horse, not 1 prob. from it yet
Link Posted: 8/12/2003 2:01:55 PM EDT
Pro: Adequately accurate out to 200 yards, gulps down crap ammo that would give an AR fits.

Con: Most aftermarket mags are junk.
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