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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:28:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Parabellum226: @LongTrang As a heads up, although the book is not bad to have, I believe that might be the only M45 photo in it. Just wanted to temper expectations. Although it showed up earlier in the thread, I feel it might be good to repost this from KC Crawford’s site. It outlines the changes along the development of the MEU(SOC) and later M45 with feedback from multiple other 2112s. https://kcskustomcreations.com/meu-soc-variations-and-price-list/ He also happens to sell really good quality reproduction parts and he does full builds (I don’t own one, but I’ve never really seen anything but compliments about his work). From what I recall, the latest gen (after serviceable GI receivers were few and far between) used Caspian Modern Receivers in carbon steel and integral plunger tubes. I also believe that PWS ordered them pre-cut for the .250 radius Ed brown. The M45s had MC### serial frames, and I think the shooting team guns also had unique frame prefixes. Thank you for the info. Aside from the M45 goodness I was interested in the book mainly for general MARSOC info. A big +1 for KC Custom. I have purchased their parts in the past and they are outstanding. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2021 3:46:05 PM EDT
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I would like to know about rails that were added to standard M45 frames....
What rails (manufactures) were added ? Just Dawson ? Is there a current rail, that perhaps not 100% correct but will accept all standard pistol lights ? .....or is there a rail that is correct that accepts all modern pistol lights (insights, Surefire, etc)? Thank You. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 5:57:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By norshon3: I would like to know about rails that were added to standard M45 frames.... What rails (manufactures) were added ? Just Dawson ? Is there a current rail, that perhaps not 100% correct but will accept all standard pistol lights ? .....or is there a rail that is correct that accepts all modern pistol lights (insights, Surefire, etc)? Thank You. Just to point out added Dawson rail only apply to Kimber IQCB. No other MEUSOC pistols had add-on rail. If you are referring to the light rail that is secured by slide stop pin, that was made by Surefire and already discontinued. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 4:03:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Infidel4life11]
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Originally Posted By norshon3: I would like to know about rails that were added to standard M45 frames.... What rails (manufactures) were added ? Just Dawson ? Is there a current rail, that perhaps not 100% correct but will accept all standard pistol lights ? .....or is there a rail that is correct that accepts all modern pistol lights (insights, Surefire, etc)? Thank You. Surefire 310R non rail  Dawson style rail. Like mlin said were only apart of the DET-1 Kimbers  Dawson style rail requires an adapter to fit SF X300 lights |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2021 12:09:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Toftwo]
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That should be the Gen 3 variant. The pic that RM posted with a mix of old and new parts on a GI frame.
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Posted: 3/11/2021 10:35:44 PM EDT
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Getting a little worried about the MEUSOC following after seeing a second Valor build for sale in the last thirty days...
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Posted: 3/11/2021 11:42:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NapeSticksToKids]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pleaforwar: Getting a little worried about the MEUSOC following after seeing a second Valor build for sale in the last thirty days... Lmao if that’s about the armslist listing that went up today out of Cleveland, I have no shame in saying I did that for Nick as free advertising in anticipation of his MEUSOC raffle he is debuting this weekend. I am not getting rid of that thing for anything. Custom SN, come on man! ETA: no idea who the other one is, he hasn’t done that many and it’s surprising someone would offload it already. |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 12:54:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5pt56]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NapeSticksToKids: Lmao if that’s about the armslist listing that went up today out of Cleveland, I have no shame in saying I did that for Nick as free advertising in anticipation of his MEUSOC raffle he is debuting this weekend. I am not getting rid of that thing for anything. Custom SN, come on man! ETA: no idea who the other one is, he hasn’t done that many and it’s surprising someone would offload it already. @Infidel4life11 And I will vouch, his (Valor Precision) work is amazing. My MEUSOC is his 4th or 5th one and its in route back to me! |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 1:39:15 AM EDT
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@NapeSticksToKids
LOL, yeah, I saw the Armslist post, and IIRC Infidel put his up on EE last month. I can't handle a world in which MEUSOC clones aren't cool anymore, hence my concern. 
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Posted: 3/12/2021 1:45:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Infidel4life11]
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: Getting a little worried about the MEUSOC following after seeing a second Valor build for sale in the last thirty days... Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @NapeSticksToKids LOL, yeah, I saw the Armslist post, and IIRC Infidel put his up on EE last month. I can't handle a world in which MEUSOC clones aren't cool anymore, hence my concern. The raffle is my original full build variant 4 I started gathering parts on. Me and valor worked out a deal and he ended up with the Caspian frame and loaded slide, building MC 0187 for a raffle. I sold my VP built loaded base gun for $1850 in a few days of posting it so that I could fund some other stuff and throw some cash at this raffle and maybe get my OG dream gun back lol. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:00:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Parabellum226]
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Nick just finished up a Meusoc for me and another for a friend (the railed one he posted recently)... he’s also building a third for another buddy. I haven’t seen the finished product up close yet, but he’s been one of the easiest to deal with gunsmiths I’ve encountered.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:44:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NapeSticksToKids]
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I saw the ones he shipped out yesterday. The railed one is sex.
Infidel, the one you have coming to you is freaking amazing. My boss just ordered parts to make one exactly like it. Love the flat trigger! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:28:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Parabellum226]
[#13]
The railed one is actually a replica one of the “experimental” ones from PWS earlier on in the thread.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:11:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dunderway]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Parabellum226: The railed one is actually a replica one of the "experimental" ones from PWS earlier on in the thread. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5641/20453705234_5c6afc06fd_z.jpg |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:18:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Parabellum226]
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Based on my eyeballs it looked to be an early gen of caspian frame that were called the extreme series or something of the sort. They might have been used on the first gen Sig 1911s... let me see if I can dig up the pic for the same page.
Found it The railed 1911 in this picture was built on a Caspian Extreme Recon Frame...  Well... looking back at the thread sure brought up some feels. Back on or about page 29, I created a weapon record file utilizing the various pictures I had seen on the internet. There was a lot of guestimation and photoshopping done but it resulted in a passable book. When we lost Hobbs, one of the members (Jeff) thought up the idea of selling the books to benefit Hobbs’ family. I was provided a scan of the PWS book from which I refined the dimensions and fixed an error on the cover. I never made the file of the books available to the masses without the John Hobbs tribute page, as this was not meant to be sold and I never got around to hosting it after the fact. Hopefully late is better than never. Here’s one of the files I created. Let’s see if this works. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jJHo6MHjSfP5mjoPBuw32uVJR_HcOdao/view?usp=sharing Here’s the original Hobbs Tribute https://drive.google.com/file/d/13haX969Qsv4ZgMsYLQ5_E-RCZVY8mu1w/view?usp=sharing |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 10:41:59 PM EDT
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SN: MC 0187
         
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Posted: 3/15/2021 11:48:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4arc: Got my tickets today! Good |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 6:47:46 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2021 8:48:13 PM EDT
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Update on the Valor build.
Have not shot it, but based on my tabletop fondling the gun feels great. Nick definitely paid close attention to detail... I tried taking the gun apart to nitpick and a couldn’t find anything wrong. Frame/slide was comparable to a Wilson CQB, trigger is super clean and crisp, and blending was spot on. What’s more, I found out that some of the MC serial guns that showed up in this thread and inspired me were actually built by him per his log book. I’m probably preaching to the choir here but if anyone is one the fence about him building your gun, don’t be. |
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Posted: 3/23/2021 1:34:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Parabellum226: Update on the Valor build. Have not shot it, but based on my tabletop fondling the gun feels great. Nick definitely paid close attention to detail... I tried taking the gun apart to nitpick and a couldn’t find anything wrong. Frame/slide was comparable to a Wilson CQB, trigger is super clean and crisp, and blending was spot on. What’s more, I found out that some of the MC serial guns that showed up in this thread and inspired me were actually built by him per his log book. I’m probably preaching to the choir here but if anyone is one the fence about him building your gun, don’t be. Me and Bro Nape @NapeSticksToKids tried to told you MFer’s lol. I just got a non standard build back from Nick that’s more of a “Delta” inspired clone and it is amazing. We’re currently working an old school “spare parts” build that I’m going to send him in a few weeks. |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 1:45:13 PM EDT
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Nick was super stoked about finding pics of his guns. We were talking about how hindsight is always 20/20 and we both wished we had taken more pics to reminisce with while we were in. He never took a single pic at PWS so he was very happy to find some.
Infidel I have to bump up a clone of your inspired build. That thing is pure gunfighter handgun. |
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Posted: 3/25/2021 1:50:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NapeSticksToKids: Nick was super stoked about finding pics of his guns. We were talking about how hindsight is always 20/20 and we both wished we had taken more pics to reminisce with while we were in. He never took a single pic at PWS so he was very happy to find some. Infidel I have to bump up a clone of your inspired build. That thing is pure gunfighter handgun. Bumped into some JSOC dudes in Afghanistan back in the day. One was carrying pretty much the exact gun Nick built for me, which I believe now to be the “Springfield Delta” pistol or a version of. The other guy was carrying an older version, USGI National Match m1911a1 with a Dawson Rail. The later I’m currently gathering parts for now. I didn’t have a picture phone/smart phone back then and didn’t want to whip out my disposable camera to take pics but I wish I did. Those guns have been burnt into my memory all this time and now I’m making them real. I bring that Valor gun home on Friday. I hit you up for some pics. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/26/2021 1:45:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Pretty interesting photo that showed the original Cerakote M45A1 still in the active service in 2021. I thought those were all returned to Colt in exchange of newer IonBond finish.
A U.S. Marine with the All Domain Reconnaissance Detachment, 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit, sights in with an M1911 pistol while conducting dry-fire drills during Realistic Urban Training exercise at Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Arizona, Feb. 21, 2021. RUT provides the 11th MEU an opportunity to train and execute operations as a Marine Air-Ground Task Force in an urban environment, where the ADRD serves a critical role bringing capabilities for reconnaissance and surveillance missions and precision raids. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Israel Chincio) 
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Posted: 3/26/2021 3:43:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlin: Pretty interesting photo that showed the original Cerakote M45A1 still in the active service in 2021. I thought those were all returned to Colt in exchange of newer IonBond finish. A U.S. Marine with the All Domain Reconnaissance Detachment, 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit, sights in with an M1911 pistol while conducting dry-fire drills during Realistic Urban Training exercise at Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Arizona, Feb. 21, 2021. RUT provides the 11th MEU an opportunity to train and execute operations as a Marine Air-Ground Task Force in an urban environment, where the ADRD serves a critical role bringing capabilities for reconnaissance and surveillance missions and precision raids. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Israel Chincio) https://i.imgur.com/d351Wrsh.jpg So much want!!!!!!! |
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USA
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Posted: 3/26/2021 3:56:13 PM EDT
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Wow. I purchased a Colt custom m45A1 two years ago for $1,650. I just checked GB, which used to be full of these and the prices on the few remaining seem to have doubled. M45A1 stamp and newer Decabond finish.
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USA
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Posted: 3/26/2021 5:24:06 PM EDT
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Another photo shot this year, Desert Sand Cerakote again from a different unit. I have not seem much official military published photos showed M45A1 with IonBond finish. Maybe the M45A1 contracts ended sooner after the switch and not that many newly finished pistols were in the circulation before the program cancelled?
U.S. Marine Corps Capt. Dillon Hartmann, a platoon commander, with 3d Reconnaissance Battalion, 3d Marine Division, fires his pistol during Close-Quarters Battle training at Camp Schwab, Okinawa, Japan on Jan. 25, 2021. CQB training improves weapon proficiency and reinforces the Marine’s ability to quickly make decisions in an operational environment. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Sgt. David Staten) 
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Posted: 3/26/2021 7:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Wow. I purchased a Colt custom m45A1 two years ago for $1,650. I just checked GB, which used to be full of these and the prices on the few remaining seem to have doubled. M45A1 stamp and newer Decabond finish.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/26/2021 7:12:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/26/2021 7:19:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlin: Another photo shot this year, Desert Sand Cerakote again from a different unit. I have not seem much official military published photos showed M45A1 with IonBond finish. Maybe the M45A1 contracts ended sooner after the switch and not that many newly finished pistols were in the circulation before the program cancelled? U.S. Marine Corps Capt. Dillon Hartmann, a platoon commander, with 3d Reconnaissance Battalion, 3d Marine Division, fires his pistol during Close-Quarters Battle training at Camp Schwab, Okinawa, Japan on Jan. 25, 2021. CQB training improves weapon proficiency and reinforces the Marine’s ability to quickly make decisions in an operational environment. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Sgt. David Staten) https://i.imgur.com/Ea5T0YX.jpg Schwab has a pretty good MOUT town iirc |
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Posted: 3/26/2021 7:26:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ericoak: Wow. I purchased a Colt custom m45A1 two years ago for $1,650. I just checked GB, which used to be full of these and the prices on the few remaining seem to have doubled. M45A1 stamp and newer Decabond finish. Originally Posted By vet14tango10: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/264989/BF8FF26C-4F6A-49F0-9435-4C29E0418228_png-1881052.JPG You are seeing the stupidity of covid shortages, Colt selling to CZ and neck bread fudds loosing their minds. |
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Posted: 3/26/2021 7:38:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pleaforwar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11: You are seeing the stupidity of covid shortages, Colt selling to CZ and neck bread fudds loosing their minds. I had the chance to buy one at the Huachuca Exchange for pre-Covid prices but they wouldn't sell to me because I was TDY, even though I was a resident. 
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Posted: 3/26/2021 8:10:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11: You are seeing the stupidity of covid shortages, Colt selling to CZ and neck bread fudds loosing their minds. Take away covid and fudd idea. I say they continue to head north. Have they all been going for $7k. No. Will they ever head south of $2000 again ? Doubt it. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2021 2:57:26 PM EDT
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Got my tickets last week.
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Posted: 3/28/2021 6:04:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KTMmx001: Got my tickets last week. Sweet! |
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Posted: 3/28/2021 6:05:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2021 8:25:20 PM EDT
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Switched grips and put a magwell on her
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MCO
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Posted: 4/11/2021 11:11:20 AM EDT
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Has anyone seen any difference in durability between the KC bar stock sights and the original Millets?
I have KCs on my MEU(SOC) build and assume the Millets are cast. (Acquiring parts for my last build, which is a stainless PSA frame and GI hard slide...sort of a hybrid between our favorite 1911 and a Pachmyer Combat Special.) |
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USA
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Posted: 4/12/2021 1:39:51 AM EDT
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Millett front sight is cast. I don't think you will notice much difference between original vs KC reproduction unless you really beat up your guns. Millett made both narrow and wide tenon front sights. If only stack it, wide tenon one is the better option. KC use narrow tenon, but he silver solders sight, so the sight is permanently fixed to the slide.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2021 10:50:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OODA_Loop: Has anyone seen any difference in durability between the KC bar stock sights and the original Millets? I have KCs on my MEU(SOC) build and assume the Millets are cast. (Acquiring parts for my last build, which is a stainless PSA frame and GI hard slide...sort of a hybrid between our favorite 1911 and a Pachmyer Combat Special.) +1 on everything mlin mentions. As far as durability, KC’s front sight is a bit beefier in the sight skirt area. Not sure how that translates to durability but it’s worth mentioning. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2021 6:16:28 PM EDT
[#41]
That looks real nice I'm gonna have to do that to mine
What mag well did you use? |
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Posted: 4/16/2021 12:53:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maxaks: That looks real nice I'm gonna have to do that to mine What mag well did you use? @maxaks Who are you replying to brother? |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2021 5:44:12 AM EDT
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@infidelforlife
Your kinmber? |
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Posted: 4/16/2021 10:55:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maxaks: @infidelforlife Your kinmber? Gotcha, Stan Chen Shooter Installed magwell. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2021 12:19:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Toftwo]
[#45]
 " /> " />Just got the Gen 1 back from the 2112 today! Super happy with it. Finding a completely stainless trigger is very difficult. Now to build the Gen 3 and I'm Done!, no, not really! |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2021 12:52:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toftwo: https://i.imgur.com/qM9nSRm.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/qM9nSRm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/I1tx7A9.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/I1tx7A9.jpg Just got the Gen 1 back from the 2112 today! Super happy with it. Finding a completely stainless trigger is very difficult. Now to build the Gen 3 and I'm Done!, no, not really! Nice! I’m wavering again... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2021 1:23:21 PM EDT
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Lol, gen4 or gen 2, let me know
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Posted: 4/17/2021 7:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toftwo: https://i.imgur.com/qM9nSRm.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/qM9nSRm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/I1tx7A9.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/I1tx7A9.jpg Just got the Gen 1 back from the 2112 today! Super happy with it. Finding a completely stainless trigger is very difficult. Now to build the Gen 3 and I'm Done!, no, not really! Alright brother. Which one is your favorite? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2021 8:14:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toftwo: Lol, gen4 or gen 2, let me know Good possibility |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2021 8:21:05 PM EDT
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I like the looks of the Gen2, but if I needed to fight with one it would be the gen4. However the amount of work the 2112’s did on the Gen1 is pretty awesome. They had to lower the ejection ports, mill down and re-cut the mainspring housings, silver solder the front sights, fabricate the rear sight. Then build it, very cool!
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