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Posted: 11/7/2019 9:25:38 AM EDT
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Receivers cracking isn't a surprise, especially with the round counts of the rifles. Expect you'll see more and more across other brands and models as firearms age with higher round counts.
Aluminum has a finite fatigue life which means it will always break. It's just a matter of time based on how much load is applied and number of cycles. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 11:14:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense:
I asked the staff about the Sig MCX and they said it has had zero issues since we put in the line. It doesn’t get nearly the abuse as our workhorses but I think it’s coming close to two years now? V/R Ron Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense:
Originally Posted By JK-919:
Any Sig MCXes on the line? (I guess they’re sort of AR-like and fit in this thread, the upper works on an AR lower) V/R Ron |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2019 1:57:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKPOF]
[#3]
Hi Ron,
Does Lucas or Slip have chlorinated esters in their oils//greases? I ask because Grant Cunningham posted this about it and how it can cause cracking in guns... Quote: "(One major gun manufacturer actually had barrels fall off of their revolvers. An investigation ensued, and they found that the chlorinated esters used in their machining oils was causing stress cracking in barrel threads. When combined with the gun owners’ use of cleaning and lube compounds containing chlorinated esters, the barrels simply sheared off at the weakest part – the threads. Like most aircraft makers, the company learned to forbid chlorine-carrying compounds on the manufacturing floor, to prevent a recurrence.)" https://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/ I think it would be important to stick to non-chlorinated oils/greases to protect the longevity of the firearms used at your business. |
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Posted: 12/28/2019 11:25:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sincerd]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense:
I asked the staff about the Sig MCX and they said it has had zero issues since we put in the line. It doesn’t get nearly the abuse as our workhorses but I think it’s coming close to two years now? V/R Ron Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense:
Originally Posted By JK-919:
Any Sig MCXes on the line? (I guess they’re sort of AR-like and fit in this thread, the upper works on an AR lower) V/R Ron Gotta keep this thread going. |
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Posted: 12/29/2019 11:04:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense: I asked the staff about the Sig MCX and they said it has had zero issues since we put in the line. It doesn’t get nearly the abuse as our workhorses but I think it’s coming close to two years now? V/R Ron Do you know if it was a pre-recall or post-recall production example? (Bolt carrier change) If it was post recall, was your example changed? |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 10:08:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HendersonDefense: I asked the staff about the Sig MCX and they said it has had zero issues since we put in the line. It doesn’t get nearly the abuse as our workhorses but I think it’s coming close to two years now? V/R Ron |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2020 1:45:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mace2364]
[#7]
Ron,
I really appreciate all of the time you’ve put into this thread, as well as the others. I would like to know about a couple oddballs that I haven’t seen mentioned, if you don’t mind. How are the SAR-80 and AR-70 holding up? Thanks in advance, Mace |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2020 11:23:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maka10]
[#8]
I'm no AR expert at all. But I have a question? I'm wondering if will help with reducing wear from force.
Would the Capture Buffer spring systems like JP, Armspec and other, perhaps, not reduce the wear forces on the entire AR functioning parts and Body's? Especially high usage, and long term? I run the Armspec in some of my AR's and it certainly reduces force reactions. Ron Thanks so much for sharing. Love the stuff you are posting. |
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Posted: 1/20/2020 12:24:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mace2364:
Ron, I really appreciate all of the time you’ve put into this thread, as well as the others. I would like to know about a couple oddballs that I haven’t seen mentioned, if you don’t mind. How are the SAR-80 and AR-70 holding up? Thanks in advance, Mace V/R Ron |
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Posted: 1/20/2020 12:25:42 AM EDT
[#10]
We've been using the standard, non-CHF uppers lately and we get PLENTY of use out of them.
V/R Ron |
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Posted: 1/20/2020 10:22:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
We've been using the standard, non-CHF uppers lately and we get PLENTY of use out of them. V/R Ron |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 1:07:07 PM EDT
[#12]
Thank you for all of your hard work Ron. I had a couple of follow up questions that you touched on and wanted to see what your opinion was now.
1. You said that you were going to try McFarland Style 1 piece gas rings. Did you get a chance and if so what is your opinion. 2. Are you still only running the HK clone when it comes to AR style piston guns? 3. What is your current lube for the guns? Thanks again for your time and hard work. |
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Posted: 1/25/2020 5:25:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K1LLD33R]
[#13]
Finally in half a decade later
Ron, tons of respect 
Also in for info with a mcfarland ring from jp sitting on my lantac...  Attached FileHow are the LANTAC/s treating you nowadays? (From pg. 34)  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 2:34:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mrozowjj]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By suprmatch:
I don't know why firearm manufacturers aren't lining up to supply you with firearms (for free) to put on the line and test. But then again maybe some don't want to know how their guns don't stack up against others. Great thread Ron! |
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USA
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Posted: 2/5/2020 7:17:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrozowjj:
I was wondering that too. If I was making a gun I'd give him one to use in the range. The amount of data you'd get from seating what parts broke would be invaluable to companies like Sig, FN, B&T, etc that are going for military contacts. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:41:12 AM EDT
[#16]
“Who wants to shoot the NGSW?”
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Posted: 2/8/2020 3:05:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlowersForFoes:
Finally in half a decade later Ron, tons of respect
Also in for info with a mcfarland ring from jp sitting on my lantac... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/498555/BBBE7BCE-9732-4776-882E-521C4ED66D61_jpe-1250152.JPG How are the LANTAC/s treating you nowadays? V/R Ron |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 3:09:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PBreezy:
Thank you for all of your hard work Ron. I had a couple of follow up questions that you touched on and wanted to see what your opinion was now. 1. You said that you were going to try McFarland Style 1 piece gas rings. Did you get a chance and if so what is your opinion. 2. Are you still only running the HK clone when it comes to AR style piston guns? 3. What is your current lube for the guns? Thanks again for your time and hard work. - I don't think we've got around to running those yet. - As for HK's, we actually put four factory HK-416's on the line. The HK clone held up WAY longer than anyone expected. I can't remember which piece finally gave but I did get a hold of the original manufacture of those uppers and he does have replacement parts. I just have to remember to order them from him. - We are still using Lucas oil and Slip 2000 products on all the weapons, to include the M134's now. V/R Ron |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/8/2020 5:36:23 PM EDT
[#19]
@HendersonDefense
What parts do you see fail on your Steyr AUGs? How does their reliability compare to ARs, AKs, and HKs? |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 6:07:35 PM EDT
[#20]
M134
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USA
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Posted: 2/10/2020 2:07:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sincerd]
[#21]
@HendersonDefense
Irst off Thanks for all the updates. Any update on Sig mcx? Sig mpx? Sr15s |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:03:10 PM EDT
[#22]
I’ve read through this thread a bunch but I can’t seem to find anything posted on this, though it’s probably already been covered...
Ron, How have set screw gas blocks held up compared to pinned? Are the barrels dimpled? |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 12:53:43 AM EDT
[#23]
Surprisingly enough, gas blocks have held up and they don’t have set screws. What they did have are gas blocks that are tucked underneath rails but I thought for sure they would loosen up over time.
V/R Ron |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:20:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense:
Surprisingly enough, gas blocks have held up and they don’t have set screws. What they did have are gas blocks that are tucked underneath rails but I thought for sure they would loosen up over time. V/R Ron |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2020 2:18:15 PM EDT
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Don't know if this question is already answered, but are there any KAC guns on the line (with the E3 bolt)? If so how are they holding up?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2020 4:41:56 PM EDT
[#26]
How are the Bren rifles holding up? I imagine they dont get as much use as others.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2020 4:26:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Any updates on the Steyr AUGs and the IWI Tavors re: round counts and parts breakage? Thanks and have a good one!
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Posted: 2/27/2020 8:14:04 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense:
Surprisingly enough, gas blocks have held up and they don’t have set screws. What they did have are gas blocks that are tucked underneath rails but I thought for sure they would loosen up over time. V/R Ron |
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Posted: 2/27/2020 9:52:32 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ICU:
M134 It took weeks for the smile to wear off. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/2/2020 7:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Surefire1002:
Any updates on the Steyr AUGs and the IWI Tavors re: round counts and parts breakage? Thanks and have a good one! |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 8:12:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strela: My son bought me some time on the BFV M134 for my 70th birthday. It took weeks for the smile to wear off. 
Me and my wife stop in every time we go to Vegas! Good stuff! |
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Posted: 3/21/2020 10:35:44 AM EDT
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How's business in Vegas?
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:19:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: How's business in Vegas? We closed the range down two weeks ago but have kept all of our staff employed. We have seven years worth of cleaning and rehab to do. We've been so busy since opening that all things we've needed to get done have just been sitting and building up. This shutdown has had a silver lining for us. Staff are staying busy and getting a change of pace and long-deserved break. Guys are restoring tanks, painting/epoxying the floors and walls, expanding the footprint of our "FOB" and doing general maintenance all around the property. V/R Ron |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:37:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Great to hear you guys are doing ok, stay safe
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Posted: 4/11/2020 6:59:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Yep, very good to hear.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2020 7:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense: We closed the range down two weeks ago but have kept all of our staff employed. We have seven years worth of cleaning and rehab to do. We've been so busy since opening that all things we've needed to get done have just been sitting and building up. This shutdown has had a silver lining for us. Staff are staying busy and getting a change of pace and long-deserved break. Guys are restoring tanks, painting/epoxying the floors and walls, expanding the footprint of our "FOB" and doing general maintenance all around the property. V/R Ron Now there is a man who took lemons and made lemonade. Stay Safe! |
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Posted: 4/13/2020 10:41:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SiGfever: Now there is a man who took lemons and made lemonade. Stay Safe! I think you mean he put the lime in his Corona 
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Posted: 4/13/2020 8:20:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Glad your doing well Ron......thanks for this thread and all you do
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2020 4:17:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HKPOF]
[#39]
Ron, what would be a proper respectable tip to give the RSO ? $5? $10? $20 or ? What do the RSO's average per customer for a tip usually?
Also, does your range have rubber shock absorbent padding on the floors like a gym has to limit damage to dropped guns? If not, it might be a wise investment to have them to protect guns/optics if they are dropped. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:41:00 AM EDT
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Thank you for sharing your experience, and taking time to share is also commendable.
I keep thinking, armory/gun cleaning has potential to be a great episode of "Dirty Jobs" with Mike Rowe. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 2:54:41 PM EDT
[#41]
Thought of you guys, thankyou for all the updates so far
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Posted: 5/30/2020 11:40:55 AM EDT
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OP,
Thanks for taking the time to post this. You have added to the body of knowledge, which as an old teacher, is a wonderful thing. 1. Do you keep uppers, lowers and BCGs dedicated to each other? IOW, will an upper always use the same BCG until it fails? 2. How often do you headspace? |
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Posted: 6/8/2020 7:12:43 PM EDT
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Just giving a bump.
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Posted: 6/9/2020 12:42:54 PM EDT
[#44]
Ron, I’m curious what sorts of processes your guys use to clean all those weapons after the heavy use they get every day.
I’m a big believer in weapon cleaning being the best preventive maintenance there is. Your operation clearly depends on your weapons staying on the line as close to 100% as possible, so I think your guys’ processes and techniques would be instructive to the rest of us. And thanks again for sharing with us. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/17/2020 3:23:00 AM EDT
[#45]
Hi Ron,
Thank you for all the valuable information. Got few questions. 1) Interested in knowing how IWI X95 is holding up. Approximately how many rounds have you guys put through it and what parts needed to be replaced. 2) Do you still rent full auto firearms off premises ? If so, how does that work with ATF since rental is taking place outside your place of business. Do you have to check them out of your books and re-enter ? Cheers ! |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 2:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gangsterjatt: Hi Ron, Thank you for all the valuable information. Got few questions. 1) Interested in knowing how IWI X95 is holding up. Approximately how many rounds have you guys put through it and what parts needed to be replaced. 2) Do you still rent full auto firearms off premises ? If so, how does that work with ATF since rental is taking place outside your place of business. Do you have to check them out of your books and re-enter ? Cheers ! +1 on the x95, would love to hear about that! |
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Posted: 6/18/2020 11:05:24 AM EDT
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very cool thread, while its not a fair comparison I find it interesting to read about the reliability of the rifle ARs compared to the carbine ARs
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ND, USA
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Posted: 6/23/2020 4:47:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HendersonDefense: We closed the range down two weeks ago but have kept all of our staff employed. We have seven years worth of cleaning and rehab to do. We've been so busy since opening that all things we've needed to get done have just been sitting and building up. This shutdown has had a silver lining for us. Staff are staying busy and getting a change of pace and long-deserved break. Guys are restoring tanks, painting/epoxying the floors and walls, expanding the footprint of our "FOB" and doing general maintenance all around the property. V/R Ron 10+ weeks have you caught up on all the upkeep & improvements? |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 5:54:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc: +1 on the x95, would love to hear about that! +1!!!! |
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Posted: 6/27/2020 9:02:19 PM EDT
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Ron, awhile ago you were testing Wolf T91 piston uppers, how did they fair?
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