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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:28:29 PM EDT
on Arfcom?

Seriously, what's with all the recent "I love Unions", "Democrats love guns too", "Glad to hear Socialists are winning in South America" threads that have been here lately?

Is the site so big that we are now attracting flies to the light, or is it suddenly troll-a-palooza 2005?
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:36:23 PM EDT
lax troll removal has always been a problem here.

Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:45:48 PM EDT
Well, you've been registered here longer than I have but not many posts. Lurk a lot?

If so you should know that things come and go around here. We have our high tides of good times and we have our low tides where all that seems to be around is rotting carcasses stinking up the place.

Tide seems to be out now.

I can't figure out what's flushing this bunch out from under the rocks now.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:48:39 PM EDT
Yeah, I've been here a while...mostly just have time to read, and usually only post when I have a gun-related question. Just noticed the threads recently and am hoping its not a trend.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 8:56:19 PM EDT

Actually there's not ENOUGH leftists on this board.

How else are we supposed to hone our defenses and sharpen our ability to combat leftist idiocy than by constantly being challenged in our positions by leftist idiots here?

Link Posted: 12/19/2005 9:01:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Actually there's not ENOUGH leftists on this board.

How else are we supposed to hone our defenses and sharpen our ability to combat leftist idiocy than by constantly being challenged in our positions by leftist idiots here?




Yes, because arguing with idiots on the internet is sooo productive.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 9:10:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Actually there's not ENOUGH leftists on this board.

How else are we supposed to hone our defenses and sharpen our ability to combat leftist idiocy than by constantly being challenged in our positions by leftist idiots here?


hone our defenses??? Thats like shooting fish in a barrel and saying you are improving your marksmanship!

The_Macallan... I have always admired your posts and level of intellect... You hit with FACTS and they hit with EMOTIONS and FEELINGS. I notice with arguments against liberals one of three things will happen.

1. They leave in a huff
2. They call you names

Or


3. The losing statement emerges from their lips "Lets just agree to disagree"


How far off the mark am I?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 5:06:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bastiat:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Actually there's not ENOUGH leftists on this board.

How else are we supposed to hone our defenses and sharpen our ability to combat leftist idiocy than by constantly being challenged in our positions by leftist idiots here?

Yes, because arguing with idiots on the internet is sooo productive.

Okay well at least it's cheap entertainment.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 5:17:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 5:22:51 AM EDT
Why are we having to smackdown liberals?

Because it's FUN!

Bilster
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 5:23:53 AM EDT
Theory why we are seeing so many leftists:

They weren't left enough for the DUmmies, so they were banned with a "well why don't you try arfcom you stupid moderate".
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 5:31:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:46:14 AM EDT


I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?

Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:48:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 7:48:51 AM EDT by out-a-ammo]

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




NOOB!

Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:48:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




I tried that argument the other day and they pretty much called me a commie fag tree-hugging hippy maggot infested dope fiend.

YMMV
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:52:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




Have you looked at the Democratic Party platform wrt guns lately?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 7:53:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




I tried that argument the other day and they pretty much called me a commie fag tree-hugging hippy maggot infested dope fiend.



And your problem with this is...?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:00:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 8:01:38 AM EDT by AshNH]

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




I tried that argument the other day and they pretty much called me a commie fag tree-hugging hippy maggot infested dope fiend.



And your problem with this is...?


No problem at all ... I could really care less about being friends with narrow-minded extremists (whether those extremists are left or right is irrelevent) if the view is shared that anyone that falls in the gray area between extreme left or extreme right, is either a fascist or a commie respectively, go have fun with yourselves.

If people aren't welcome here that don't fit the extreme right ideal, please say so.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:06:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:11:14 PM EDT
Their mommies did not take the time or make the effort to house break the kids.
Result-liberals 20 years later.
Now you have to smack them around.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:33:48 PM EDT
from my cold dead dem hands
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:37:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




Have you looked at the Democratic Party platform wrt guns lately?



just because you're not a republican doesn't mean you're a democrat.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:39:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DAVID4943:
Their mommies did not take the time or make the effort to house break the kids.
Result-liberals 20 years later.
Now you have to smack them around.

That is a pretty damn accurate statement.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:50:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
any time the KIDS are out of school for vaction this happens.



I think we have a winner!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 12:57:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
What I like is that we don't ban our leftist trolls, whereas the leftist sites ban you in a heart beat. We can argue our positions, they can't.




Pretty much, although I have to admit that I wouldn't mind seeing a few of 'em kicked to the curb - after all, it's not like they actually engage in any meaningful type of debate....



- georgestrings
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 1:35:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 556fiend:
on Arfcom?

Seriously, what's with all the recent "I love Unions", "Democrats love guns too", "Glad to hear Socialists are winning in South America" threads that have been here lately?

Is the site so big that we are now attracting flies to the light, or is it suddenly troll-a-palooza 2005?



You always want to simply preach to the choir? You think gun owners automatically are always going to agree with you on every issue? You think people who disagree with you should be silenced?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 1:41:31 PM EDT
I like having variety here. Can you say "celebrate diversity"?

People who frequent this site have all sorts of opinions. Lots are republicans, but that is their problem.

I enjoy the conversations, construction of arguments, and the info you find here and almost nowhere else.

I've enjoyed shooting black rifles since the 1970s, and that is what brought me here, and what keeps me here. I don't really care much about "smacking down" liberals or anyone else, but I will call things the way I see them, popular or not. It is the American way.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 1:49:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




I tried that argument the other day and they pretty much called me a commie fag tree-hugging hippy maggot infested dope fiend.



And your problem with this is...?


No problem at all ... I could really care less about being friends with narrow-minded extremists (whether those extremists are left or right is irrelevent) if the view is shared that anyone that falls in the gray area between extreme left or extreme right, is either a fascist or a commie respectively, go have fun with yourselves.

If people aren't welcome here that don't fit the extreme right ideal, please say so.



When you try to stradle the fence, you get a point up your ass. When you stand in the middle of the street, you get hit by cars. Either pick a direction, or get the f*** out of the way.

We aren't here to wait on you to decide.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 1:58:01 PM EDT
Libtardedness is easy to spot, and the ones that somehow end up here were probably wavering in their views in the first place.

I remember when I used to vote democrat. Then the whole ban thing happened.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 2:00:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




Have you looked at the Democratic Party platform wrt guns lately?



just because you're not a republican doesn't mean you're a democrat.



True dat.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 2:19:47 PM EDT
"You always want to simply preach to the choir? You think gun owners automatically are always going to agree with you on every issue? You think people who disagree with you should be silenced?"

Theres plenty of diversity on Arfcom...that's why we have religion forums, North vs. South threads, etc, so don't give me crap about everyone here being in lockstep. It's about people on a gun forum vocally supporting anti-gun politicians and promoting anti-gun ideals.

BTW, seven million more New Yorkers are agreeing with my politics tonight than would have last night
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 2:37:20 PM EDT
Just ignore them if you don't want to smack them down. There's no sense in getting upset about it - it's not your site and you have no control over who's allowed here.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 2:41:43 PM EDT
"I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?"

It is about guns, so when people come here and promote anti-gun politicians you've just gotta wonder? It's like being a vegetarian cattle rancher, or a lactos intolerant dairy farmer, it just doesn't make sense.

Are all Democrats schizophrenic or just the ones on Arfcom?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 3:05:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




+1
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 3:31:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




Have you looked at the Democratic Party platform wrt guns lately?



just because you're not a republican doesn't mean you're a democrat.



You're right...it might mean you vote for candidates that have no hope of winning and basically allow the democrats to get elected. The Commies had a word for that..."useful idiot."
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 3:35:43 PM EDT
i am not willing to compromise my beliefs. i will vote for a republican if s/he shares the same views as me on all the issues i care about, but otherwise i will vote for the party which most represents my beliefs. the only way a third party is ever going to gain prominence is if it has supporters, which will never happen if people keep choosing "bad" instead of "worse".
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:03:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 556fiend:
"You always want to simply preach to the choir? You think gun owners automatically are always going to agree with you on every issue? You think people who disagree with you should be silenced?"

Theres plenty of diversity on Arfcom...that's why we have religion forums, North vs. South threads, etc, so don't give me crap about everyone here being in lockstep. It's about people on a gun forum vocally supporting anti-gun politicians and promoting anti-gun ideals.

BTW, seven million more New Yorkers are agreeing with my politics tonight than would have last night



The thread title indicates a lack of tolerance for other viewpoints, and seems to advocate banning people who do not agree with a given set of political beliefs. Anti-gun ideals? Such as? Unions are now an anti-gun ideal? All Democrats are now automatically anti-gun? Socialists in South America are now mysteriously anti-gun?
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:06:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 556fiend:
Why are we having to smackdown liberals



Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:32:00 AM EDT
There are those who enjoy having and using guns but whose priorities cause them to support the party that would take them away.

I have voted for democrats locally but not in national elections. The way that the Federal government is set up, to elect a democrat to national office is to empower the Kennedy/Schumer and west coast commie cartel.

Mild Bill
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 3:30:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wetidlerjr:

Originally Posted By 556fiend:
Why are we having to smackdown liberals






Really? How erudite...tell us more, Bill...
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 3:49:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 3:57:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:
The thread title indicates a lack of tolerance for other viewpoints



Yes, because God knows, we should just accept anyone's viewpoint as valid, right? Jesus God, man...you sound like a fucking social sciences professor.


Unions are now an anti-gun ideal? All Democrats are now automatically anti-gun? Socialists in South America are now mysteriously anti-gun?


Well, yes, for the most part.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:09:54 AM EDT

Why are we having to smackdown liberals



Is this a trick question? The answer is rather obvious to me!
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:42:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By postpostban:
When you try to stradle the fence, you get a point up your ass. When you stand in the middle of the street, you get hit by cars. Either pick a direction, or get the f*** out of the way.

We aren't here to wait on you to decide.


Somewhere in Pakistan bin Laden is smiling and nodding in agreement with you.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:35:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By postpostban:
When you try to stradle the fence, you get a point up your ass. When you stand in the middle of the street, you get hit by cars. Either pick a direction, or get the f*** out of the way.

We aren't here to wait on you to decide.


Somewhere in Pakistan bin Laden is smiling and nodding in agreement with you.



And somewhere, a village is wondering where its idiot went to...
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:44:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By postpostban:
When you try to stradle the fence, you get a point up your ass. When you stand in the middle of the street, you get hit by cars. Either pick a direction, or get the f*** out of the way.

We aren't here to wait on you to decide.


Somewhere in Pakistan bin Laden is smiling and nodding in agreement with you.



And somewhere, a village is wondering where its idiot went to...



I'm thinking somewhere in New Hampshire...
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:50:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jon3:

I thought this was a site about guns, not about being republican?




+1
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:54:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bastiat:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By postpostban:
When you try to stradle the fence, you get a point up your ass. When you stand in the middle of the street, you get hit by cars. Either pick a direction, or get the f*** out of the way.

We aren't here to wait on you to decide.


Somewhere in Pakistan bin Laden is smiling and nodding in agreement with you.



And somewhere, a village is wondering where its idiot went to...



I'm thinking somewhere in New Hampshire...


You're right ... Souter has a house here.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:56:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By bastiat:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By postpostban:
When you try to stradle the fence, you get a point up your ass. When you stand in the middle of the street, you get hit by cars. Either pick a direction, or get the f*** out of the way.

We aren't here to wait on you to decide.


Somewhere in Pakistan bin Laden is smiling and nodding in agreement with you.



And somewhere, a village is wondering where its idiot went to...



I'm thinking somewhere in New Hampshire...


You're right ... Souter has a house here.




Maybe you two should put on a show.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 9:04:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By bastiat:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AshNH:

Originally Posted By postpostban:
When you try to stradle the fence, you get a point up your ass. When you stand in the middle of the street, you get hit by cars. Either pick a direction, or get the f*** out of the way.

We aren't here to wait on you to decide.


Somewhere in Pakistan bin Laden is smiling and nodding in agreement with you.



And somewhere, a village is wondering where its idiot went to...



I'm thinking somewhere in New Hampshire...


You're right ... Souter has a house here.




Maybe you two should put on a show.



Why would I have anything to do with that liberal Shit Heel? You automatically assume that because I'm not Conservative I'm Liberal? You do understanf that 90% of the country is somewhere between the extremes, and it's Left and Right wing extremists that have hijacked American politics to push their agendas.

Anyway, like I said earlier, I'm really not interested in being friends with extremists, and don't give half a shit what one would think of me anyway. So Merry Christmas, I wish you and yours the best.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 10:31:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AshNH:
Why would I have anything to do with that liberal Shit Heel?



I don't know. why would you?
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