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Link Posted: 8/27/2015 8:59:44 PM EDT
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You're name isn't in the OP...





 
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I appreciate your faith, but I'm not quite sure what you are asking.  If you mean the "signal" guy, he deserved it.  I/we always hate to see ANYONE banned, but there are rules which must be obeyed.  Site bans are not taken lightly, not done capriciously, and never done by one staffer only.  They are ALL reviewed by at least one sr. staffer, and most often by all three of us (EdAvilaSr, Striker, myself). Our default position is to find a reason to keep the member, but the ultimate decision lies with the staffer who locked him.  They can be overruled (only by EdAvilaSr), but that is very rare, as the staff knows the protocols, and are very scrupulous in the actions taken.  


 



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Ive suspected some things going on behind the scenes that may have came to light lately. And Smiley (unintentionally, Im sure) left out a couple key words for the real reason my name is in the OP. So alls Ill say is I like the site, and asked Stryker nicely to allow me back in, and he was very gracious about doing it. But, hmmm.

 


You're name isn't in the OP...





 




 



Jerk... Yeah... well I saw InfiniteGrim post yesterday so HA! Get back to work!
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 9:04:27 PM EDT
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Jerk... Yeah... well I saw InfiniteGrim post yesterday so HA! Get back to work!

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I appreciate your faith, but I'm not quite sure what you are asking.  If you mean the "signal" guy, he deserved it.  I/we always hate to see ANYONE banned, but there are rules which must be obeyed.  Site bans are not taken lightly, not done capriciously, and never done by one staffer only.  They are ALL reviewed by at least one sr. staffer, and most often by all three of us (EdAvilaSr, Striker, myself). Our default position is to find a reason to keep the member, but the ultimate decision lies with the staffer who locked him.  They can be overruled (only by EdAvilaSr), but that is very rare, as the staff knows the protocols, and are very scrupulous in the actions taken.  


 



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Interesting....

 
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Ive suspected some things going on behind the scenes that may have came to light lately. And Smiley (unintentionally, Im sure) left out a couple key words for the real reason my name is in the OP. So alls Ill say is I like the site, and asked Stryker nicely to allow me back in, and he was very gracious about doing it. But, hmmm.

 


You're name isn't in the OP...





 


 



Jerk... Yeah... well I saw InfiniteGrim post yesterday so HA! Get back to work!

OH SHIT GRIM IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!



Fuck yes!



 
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 9:06:20 PM EDT
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Ducks are remarkably resilient!



Good to be back.
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I agree.  Don't like it, you can always log out.




'duck is back! Nice to see you.



(Take his name off the wall. And we spent all that money upgrading the plaque, too!)




Ducks are remarkably resilient!



Good to be back.




 



You're missing some pieces but pretty much okay right?
















Good to have you back.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 9:35:50 PM EDT
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Hmm thought the pit was kind of a free for all.  I guess that may cross the line in reality but the web?  Pit I meant.
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Thought i saw a post from Rabidmonkeypox the other day.

http://www.ar15.com/member/member.html?id=127013
   

Guess I was in a time warp.. Banned for what?

Insulting someones family in the pit.


 

Hmm thought the pit was kind of a free for all.  I guess that may cross the line in reality but the web?  Pit I meant.


The Pit rules have undergone some "revision" after Site Staff made a threat to do away with The Pit.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 9:37:35 PM EDT
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Never claimed to be the smartest Duck in the pond.
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I agree.  Don't like it, you can always log out.


'duck is back! Nice to see you.

(Take his name off the wall. And we spent all that money upgrading the plaque, too!)


Ducks are remarkably resilient!

Good to be back.



Welcome back  While I understood what you were trying to do, I tried to warn you, you were stepping on your junk  Glad it worked out!


Never claimed to be the smartest Duck in the pond.


But damnit you are a duck in this pond! Welcome back! I was a bit pissed when I saw you were banned for your thread.
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Family has always been off limits, even in the pit.

Link Posted: 8/27/2015 9:42:56 PM EDT
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Family has always been off limits, even in the pit.

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The Pit rules have undergone some "revision" after Site Staff made a threat to do away with The Pit.


Family has always been off limits, even in the pit.



Yep and his ban was before the revision.

Link Posted: 8/27/2015 9:43:16 PM EDT
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Tiny Lister listlessly listened to his wife add Listerine to the grocery list, while he watched the client list and worried that his blister would cause Listeriosis.





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Yep and his ban was before the revision.



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Family has always been off limits, even in the pit.







Yep and his ban was before the revision.





As much as I like RMP, he seriously stepped on his dick.  With cleats.  I'm sure he regretted saying what he said, but it was too late.



 
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Did VacaDuck post specific information, or did he simply reference an event (the hypothetical existence of a thread)? As far as I've seen, VacaDuck didn't go so far as to mention the names of specific members who may, or may not, have posted in that thread, whereas J-in-a SPECIFICALLY named posters who may have said something about him behind closed doors.

Let's face it, VacaDuck did less than J-in-a, yet his transgression appears to have been met with much harsher consequences. If J-in-a's actions are worthy of only a temporary lock, then VacaDuck's aren't worthy of a ban.
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So why weren't the memebers who posted info that was in the lifer or mil forums not banned? Riddle me that. Why is there a special thin blue line ban hammer?[/quote ]
I'm not aware of anything like that.  Do you have a link?  Offhand I'm not even sure if those forums have a rule of that type.  I know even Team has a REQUEST to not carry "team stuff" outside, but it's not an enforceable rule.  

I had no hand in setting up the .mil forum, and don't recall EVER being in there, so I know nothing of its rules. Having been unable to serve, I'm not even authorized to approve members' access to the forum, though I do have the button to do so.

 The Lifer forum I do pop in somewhat regularly, but only to see if there's anything I can do to help the Life members.  I feel like an interloper there, so I don't participate in threads, even though I've been invited by several.  I just don't feel right, so I don't.

I'm not sure if that forum has an absolute RULE either.  I'll go check--BRB.

Edit:  I can't find ANYTHING about keeping stuff in the Life Member forum, so I guess it's just a tacit agreement amongst everyone in there.  Perhaps you are aware of something I couldn't find.

The .mil forum does have a rule. I'm not aware of any leaks from there, so I can't comment, as I had nothing to do with any past events.  I just don't know anything beyond your post.


Here you go:

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how about an opology for the Douchebag comment in the .mil forum? Maybe nick will apologise for the Choade remark?

He was temp locked for that.  Not banned because it was determined he referenced an event, but didn't post specific information.  Call made by EdAvilaSr himself.


Did VacaDuck post specific information, or did he simply reference an event (the hypothetical existence of a thread)? As far as I've seen, VacaDuck didn't go so far as to mention the names of specific members who may, or may not, have posted in that thread, whereas J-in-a SPECIFICALLY named posters who may have said something about him behind closed doors.

Let's face it, VacaDuck did less than J-in-a, yet his transgression appears to have been met with much harsher consequences. If J-in-a's actions are worthy of only a temporary lock, then VacaDuck's aren't worthy of a ban.


Not duck. Signal.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 1:42:45 AM EDT
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In that case, we're customers, and the store can trespass us whenever they want, for any reason or no reason at all.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 2:07:49 AM EDT
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Y'all need to let Signal back for everything to be fair and square.




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Oh look, it's the wannabe!







 
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 3:52:35 AM EDT
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Ducks are remarkably resilient!

Good to be back.
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I agree.  Don't like it, you can always log out.


'duck is back! Nice to see you.

(Take his name off the wall. And we spent all that money upgrading the plaque, too!)


Ducks are remarkably resilient!

Good to be back.


I've always been a fan of the ducks!
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 3:55:08 AM EDT
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Duck chili would be wrong on so many levels...

Do it!

And welcome back!

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You should come by. What do you know about CAS?
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Yes, there is a rule on Mil side that says talking about stuff outside of their will get your account locked.


And I bet people talk shit about non-mil people in there. You know us tax payers pay the mil salary, RIGHT?

If this is true, then I'll never renew my membership.


I have not hung out in the mil forum, but if I did talk shit about anyone, it would be tankers and the Air Farce.


You should come by. What do you know about CAS?

I remember an A10 doing a u-turn overhead in 1988 and being glad they were on our side.  Mind you our primary mission was REFORGER.  (we had M16A1's, M60's and M1911's and Ronald Wilson Reagan as CIC) ETS'ed from active in Oct 89 as a PV4. I also remember the AF requiring a 4 year enlistment for the same college money as the Army would give you for 2 years back in 1987.  We also did not run with reflective belts.  They shut down the road we ran on so it really wasn't needed.



....Stay off my lawn.
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Link? Good.



 
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Finally!

Link to something?
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 5:44:22 AM EDT
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That's no surprise, did norcal figure out who he was?
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didn't see that coming

No


Not at all
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I can't believe he lasted that long.  



HAD to be a retread



 
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 8:29:58 AM EDT
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HAD to be a retread
 

My vote is Dan.
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My vote is Dan.
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HAD to be a retread
 

My vote is Dan.




Anyone find it hilarious that a familiar was featured in an arfcom email advert?  



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Anyone find it hilarious that a familiar was featured in an arfcom email advert?  

http://i.imgur.com/eSxMlyt.png

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HAD to be a retread
 

My vote is Dan.




Anyone find it hilarious that a familiar was featured in an arfcom email advert?  

http://i.imgur.com/eSxMlyt.png


I was shaking my head when I saw that yesterday. It's almost as if there's no standard anymore.
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My vote is Dan.
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HAD to be a retread
 

My vote is Dan.

Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.
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Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.
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Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.


oh?
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Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.
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Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.

Hmm
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My vote is Dan.

Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.


oh?

He has a very distinct posting style and is drawn to certain threads like a moth to a flame.
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Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.
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HAD to be a retread
 

My vote is Dan.

Not at all. That one had Razoreye written all over it.

That's what I thought too.
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Zomg list thread.  Panic!
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Link? Good.
 


I'd like a link as well.

Also, I'm not banned yet despite fighting with tbk1 Bama and Edsr so that's good.
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Also, I'm not banned yet despite fighting with tbk1 Bama and Edsr so that's good.
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Also, I'm not banned yet despite fighting with tbk1 Bama and Edsr so that's good.















 
To all who shall see these presents, greeting....



 

 
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I'd like a link as well.

Also, I'm not banned yet despite fighting with tbk1 Bama and Edsr so that's good.
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I'd like a link as well.

Also, I'm not banned yet despite fighting with tbk1 Bama and Edsr so that's good.

Yes, but you are on a list now. You poked the bear(s).
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There is no link. I think it was just the realization that he was in fact Razoreye and thus banned.





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Yes, but you are on a list now. You poked the bear(s).
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I'd like a link as well.

Also, I'm not banned yet despite fighting with tbk1 Bama and Edsr so that's good.

Yes, but you are on a list now. You poked the bear(s).


Damn, another one?
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OH SHIT GRIM IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck yes!
 
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I appreciate your faith, but I'm not quite sure what you are asking.  If you mean the "signal" guy, he deserved it.  I/we always hate to see ANYONE banned, but there are rules which must be obeyed.  Site bans are not taken lightly, not done capriciously, and never done by one staffer only.  They are ALL reviewed by at least one sr. staffer, and most often by all three of us (EdAvilaSr, Striker, myself). Our default position is to find a reason to keep the member, but the ultimate decision lies with the staffer who locked him.  They can be overruled (only by EdAvilaSr), but that is very rare, as the staff knows the protocols, and are very scrupulous in the actions taken.  

 

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Ive suspected some things going on behind the scenes that may have came to light lately. And Smiley (unintentionally, Im sure) left out a couple key words for the real reason my name is in the OP. So alls Ill say is I like the site, and asked Stryker nicely to allow me back in, and he was very gracious about doing it. But, hmmm.
 

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OH SHIT GRIM IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck yes!
 


This x1000,

We got Vaca back, we got IG back, did we get Sig back of a hat trick?
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'Bout time
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I'd like a link as well.



Also, I'm not banned yet despite fighting with tbk1 Bama and Edsr so that's good.


Yes, but you are on a list now. You poked the bear(s).




Damn, another one?
We need a list of the lists

 
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No more lists guys. From here forward we will have to find a different word to use.

Here is a list of acceptable replacements for the word list.
catalog, inventory, register, record, roll, listing, directory, file, tabulation, account, agenda, archive, ballot, bill, calendar, checklist, dictionary, draft, index, lineup, menu, poll, program, schedule, series, table, tally, ticket, arrangement, brief, bulletin, canon, catalogue, census, contents, docket, enumeration, gazette, invoice, lexicon, loop, manifest, memorandum, outline, panel, prospectus, row, screed, scroll, slate, statistics, syllabus, thesaurus, timetable, roll call.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 4:30:08 PM EDT
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It's just a discussion. A secret known enemies discussion.
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Do you have a discussion in the mil forum about civvies that talk shit about the military?
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Do you have a discussion in the mil forum about civvies that talk shit about the military?
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Do you have a discussion in the mil forum about civvies that talk shit about the military?


You must really have a low opinion of my intelligence to think that you can trick me into violating the confidentiality of the .mil forum and getting banned so easily.

I'll just refer you to GoatBoy's statement that such threads are universally banned for all sections.
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I'll get him added.




I'm caught up to may, and June and July IIRC were calm months so the list should be up to date very soon.




I'll try not to let the Fallout Shelter game distract me
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You must really have a low opinion of my intelligence to think that you can trick me into violating the confidentiality of the .mil forum and getting banned so easily.

I'll just refer you to GoatBoy's statement that such threads are universally banned for all sections.
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Do you have a discussion in the mil forum about civvies that talk shit about the military?


You must really have a low opinion of my intelligence to think that you can trick me into violating the confidentiality of the .mil forum and getting banned so easily.

I'll just refer you to GoatBoy's statement that such threads are universally banned for all sections.


Do you believe Signal25 was morally and ethically correct by bringing the LEO list to light? As a reminder, Goatboy said just as much in his post, that Signal25 was, I believe the term used, "justified."
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 5:33:46 PM EDT
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That was only a matter of time. Habitual line stepping is hard to keep up indefinitely.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 5:38:25 PM EDT
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A few points.

1. I thought there was no list, that it was just a discussion?
2. I dispute that Signal "brought it to light" as he never mentioned the LEO forum, he merely said he was going to be put on a list. If he hadn't been banned then I very much doubt if the existence of such a list would have ever come to light.
3. The .mil and LEO forums are apples and oranges as .mil do not have official capacity to harm US citizens (outside of other .mil members) while LEO do.
4. I support confidentiality, I also support whistleblowing. RebelGrey selling secrets to terrorists because he wanted money or hated America or whatever was an act of treason, and I support harsh punishment for that. The various folks who have leaked documents about the illegal activity of the fed.gov re things like Fast and Furious or the NSA or the IRS etc were breaking secrecy in order to expose crimes or morally objectionable actions and as such are in a different category.

I don't know what was on the list. Based on the reaction to it and who was keeping it I tend to think that what he did was justified whistleblowing.
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