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Posted: 7/18/2002 11:03:34 AM EDT
I get to go and work for the government doing a really groovy community service program, and get paid.
I just got off the phone with my liasion, and I got accepted [:D][:D]. It had been pending, but it's official (The application to acceptance ratio was 370-1, so i'm pretty stoked. I knocked them dead in the interview portion) So... Mid January, I will be moving to either Baltimore, MD, or Denver, CO. I thought I had a choice, but it turns out they pick it for me. Can anyone tell me anything about either? The guys on [url]www.full-auto.com[/url] helped me with this when my application was pending... Now that I am accepted, I need to know more about these places. Either place I go, per rules of the program, I can;t have any guns whatsoever, so I am screwed there. Thus, gun laws aren't a consideration as far as which place is the best. McUZI |
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I'm on my way Stormbringer, I should be there around 10 tonight, I will bring my own beer and a mattress.
Just kidding-McUzi are you going to be STAYING wherever they are sending you or is it for some kind of training. Congrats sounds like you are lucky enough to have found a job you will be able to put your heart into. |
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Isn't that something you get sentenced to, instead of applying to do?
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Quoted: Either place I go, per rules of the program, I can;t have any guns whatsoever... McUZI View Quote What sort of 'community service' is it that you are prohibited from possessing firearms? Sure hope the bux are worth that little caveat... |
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Quoted: McUzi are you going to be STAYING wherever they are sending you or is it for some kind of training. View Quote I will be living on either an air force base, or in a block of houses on the property of a V-A hosp. |
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Quoted: Either place I go, per rules of the program, I can;t have any guns whatsoever, so I am screwed there. Thus, gun laws aren't a consideration as far as which place is the best. McUZI View Quote "Those that would surrender essential liberty for a little temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security." -- A really smart founding father-type guy I'm THRILLED to know my tax dollars will go to support you. Just ecstatic. [rolleyes] |
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Quoted: I'm THRILLED to know my tax dollars will go to support you. Just ecstatic. [rolleyes] View Quote That's right Garandman... They are going to support me. Every time you look at the deductions on your paycheck, think of me. See, Garandman, I am in a special government program where I am being trained as an assassin to take out the baby Jesus. And it will be all directly linked to your tax dollars. So, next time you ride your high horse into your Church, tell the believers to take up serpents in the name of McUZI. |
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No doubt Imbroglio saw this coming way back. [;)]
But seriously, If I knew nothing about either, I'd advise CO for the climate, if nothing else. Since I [b]do[/b] know a little about Baltimore, just hope that you dodge that bullet. |
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Quoted: No doubt Imbroglio saw this coming way back. [;)] View Quote ROTFLMAO! Bryan Wada Los Angeles, CA He's a teacher. For some university in CA. He also owns a McBros .50 BMG... I can link you to the site where he asks for loading data... |
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Quoted: That's right Garandman... They are going to support me. Every time you look at the deductions on your paycheck, think of me. See, Garandman, I am in a special government program where I am being trained as an assassin to take out the baby Jesus. And it will be all directly linked to your tax dollars. So, next time you ride your high horse into your Church, tell the believers to take up serpents in the name of McUZI. View Quote See what I mean??? Gov't programs are a WASTE. To "take out baby Jesus" yer about 2,000 years too late, genius. [}:D] [}:D] Can we assume you'll be voting Democrat from now on???? Ya know, job security, and all. [}:D] |
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Well, I've never spent any amount of time in CO, but I have in MD. I would say that MD's gun laws are a pretty good indicator of the general political (read socialist) climate. I'd pick Denver. I really don't think it can be worse than Balt, and at least there's awesome skiing close by. Baltimore has horrible crime, and pretty much sucks (apart from the inner harbor). No offense to any Marylanders, just my $.02.
Good luck. EDIT: I forgot you don't have a choice. Cross your fingers for Denver. |
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Work out of and around both.
If you have to compare both it isn't pretty. Baltimore = Shithole [shock] Denver = Really Nice. [:D] To me, there would be no choice. If you end up in Balt. the inner city can be ugly, but be happy It's not DC. In the Community Service you would serve two very different types of people. If you speak any spanish your going to Denver. Good luck If you get out of the beltway it's ok |
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Way to go dude. That is good news. I hope it is in the medical field.
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Quoted: See what I mean??? Gov't programs are a WASTE. To "take out baby Jesus" yer about 2,000 years too late, genius. [}:D] [}:D] View Quote We are preparing for his return... You not being able to think of that ahead of time tells me you aren't a very good chess player. Can we assume you'll be voting Democrat from now on???? Ya know, job security, and all. [}:D] View Quote LMAO! Now THAT'S funny [:D] |
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Quoted: If you end up in Balt. the inner city can be ugly, but be happy It's not DC. View Quote I will be spending 2 Months in DC. |
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Quoted: Were preparing for his return... You not being able to think of that ahead of time tells me you aren;t a very good chess player. ] View Quote He ain't coming back as a baby, next time. [}:D] Can I go ahead and re-post your "Flame de garandman"??? It seems to be a real crowd pleaser. []:D] |
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Quoted: Can I go ahead and re-post your "Flame de garandman"??? It seems to be a real crowd pleaser. [}:D] View Quote Please do. It took me like an hour to write it. |
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Quoted: I get to go and work for the government doing a really groovy community service program, and get paid.......The application to acceptance ratio was 370-1, so i'm pretty stoked. McUZI View Quote Sounds like reverse 'affirmative action" at work, to me[:D] |
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Nah.
I lied on my application, and checked "HISPANIC". Screw it. I can abuse the system to my advantage. And I look more Hispanic than 3/4 of the Raft Monkeys in Miami. |
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I work in downtown Baltimore. If you stay in the inner harbor area, by day, it's not too bad. Go 5 blocks in any direction and you're in deep shit. I spent all of last night working in some scary areas, and all I could think of was "I need to get another job". If it didn't pay so well, I would have been gone long ago. I moved to Pa. just to get away from Md. politics, taxation, and other negatives.
Denver is pretty liberal too, but it HAS to be better than Baltimore! Then again, if you like boating, Maryland has lots to offer. Edited to add: knowing your opinions on people in general, you'll find plenty to hate about Baltimore!!! Also, if you do come here, look me up! |
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I have friends in Baltimore and a few in Jessup MD. I take a ride down to visit a few times a year. If you end up there, I'd be willing to swing by and bring Mr 50BMG and friends so you could do a little shooting.
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Quoted: Nah. I lied on my application, and checked "HISPANIC". . View Quote You should have checked "female" also. They're gov't workers - they'd never notice. [}:D] And if they did, they'd figger yer a drag queen and give ya a raise. [}:D] |
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Quoted: You should have checked "female" also. View Quote That reminds me. The Male/Female ratio for the program is 3F/2M... I didn't even ask. They were courting me a bit, and figured that would be a facet that would help me decide... [}:D] Glad it isn't a damn sausage fest... |
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Quoted: If you end up there, I'd be willing to swing by and bring Mr 50BMG and friends so you could do a little shooting. View Quote Oh thank god.... I would absolutley DIE!!!! if I had to go without shooting for the duration of the program. I might sneak in an AR, and I am DEFINITLEY bringing my Kel-Tec, for concealed urban protection while i'm in DC... But recreationial shooting is going to be something I won't be able to do as I please, like I do now [:(] |
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So how is it that forfeiting your 2nd Amendment RKBA in order to gain work through a government program is actually a good thing?
What exactly is this programme? Are you building the gas chambers for large scale use in the near future? Does this program control your actions 24/7 or only when you are on the job? I understand not having a firearm on base or in a VA hospital, however, what is so great about this program that would make a person WANT to forfeit individual freedoms. The Soviet Socialist Republic provided food, work, housing, and clothing too. I just don't get it. I also do not understand such a program that carries these limitations on personal freedom. |
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Another thought .....
They must not have done much of a background check on ya, McU....or they'd have found out about the rowdy, gun-totin' Consitution-supportin', freedom - protectin' ne'er do wells you hang out with here. |
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So you're going to be helping the "under-privileged" community that you opine about so often... on the government's dime. Figures.
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McUzi, what's your background? I don't know what kind of program this is, but is it like some kind of social work thing? Have you done this type of work in the past?
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McUzi??? Social work????
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!! |
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Quoted: I'm on my way Stormbringer, I should be there around 10 tonight, I will bring my own beer and a mattress. quote] Ok so I missed something??? |
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McUzi...
On your remark about bringing your KelTec for DC: watch it, total handgun ban, which makes for its fine liveable environment ;-) Seriously, take Colorado if you can - I think taxes are less than in MD. Now, if you're living 'on base' I can see (I don't understand its principle but the basic contractual basis) not allowing your guns. However, in no way does that ban your OWNERSHIP of said guns, just their POSSESSION ON BASE (or whatever group housing situation you're in). So get a *secure* Rent-A-Space interior locker nearby and store your toys there. It'll be $20ish/mo, but having some firepower nearby is always a good thing. Good units are alarmed, with video & audio monitored for hallways, and you could protect stuff further by putting in a cheapie Homak 8-gun cabinet bolted to wall. Just remember your to pay bill so weapons don't get turned in to police station (standard procedure for storage locker nonpayment auctions). Bill Wiese San Mateo, CA |
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McUZI FINALLY gets an affirmative action job. [:D]
See I told you that checking "other" under race on your application would work. |
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Quoted: McUzi??? Social work???? BWAHAHAHAAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!! View Quote I know, that's why I was asking. |
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Quoted: So how is it that forfeiting your 2nd Amendment RKBA in order to gain work through a government program is actually a good thing? View Quote I am not forfeiting shit. If I were to go to work as a diplomat, I would have to accept that I couldn't bring my weapons to certain nations. If I were to work as an airplane mechanic, I would have to accept that I couldn't bring any weapons into the secure area... What exactly is this programme? Are you building the gas chambers for large scale use in the near future? View Quote No. I am designing them. I leave the actual building to the less educated. Does this program control your actions 24/7 or only when you are on the job? I understand not having a firearm on base or in a VA hospital, however, what is so great about this program that would make a person WANT to forfeit individual freedoms. View Quote There are a lot of things that are great about it. That's why thousands of people apply, and only a few are chosen. The Soviet Socialist Republic provided food, work, housing, and clothing too. View Quote COOL! Did they pay a salary too [?][?] I just don't get it. I also do not understand such a program that carries these limitations on personal freedom. View Quote The operative term is [b]PERSONAL[/b]. They are within their rights to set whatever paramaters they choose, and if I don't like them, I don't have to join. If the program was "You have to give up your RKBA rights, and hand your guns into the sawmill", I wouldn't join. But giving up shooting for a couple of years while I build a resume that will pay for my college, and eventually get me into some VERY big things? Sure. That's a sacrafice I am willing to make. I don't know what you do in this life, but I would hazzard to guess it is mediocre. Armed, and mediocre. I would assume DIE than live such a life, and this chapter of my life will assure I never have to. |
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Quoted: But giving up shooting for a couple of years while I build a resume that will pay for my college, and eventually get me into some VERY big things? View Quote Don't tell me. It's got something to do with Hillary Clinton, right? |
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Quoted: Don't tell me. It's got something to do with Hillary Clinton, right? View Quote Actually, yeah. I am in training to be her chamber-boy [:E] |
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I knew it! That would explain the "Why aren't you all bragging about illegal assault weapons?" thread. Oh wait, it's not that kind of job...
I was a tutor for one of the departments of my university, which counts as a government job. Actually, I'm not even sure if I still have it (neither are they, and it's hard to figure out who "they" is). I could probably keep turning in timecards and they'd keep paying me, but that's another subject. What's really funny is when they make you sign a contract that you will follow the constitution, and then put you on government property where guns are banned. |
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Anyone who works for the government is an asshole...or er yeah...something like that.
Welcome to the world of being paid on a monthly basis. [;)] |
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Quoted: That's a sacrafice I am willing to make. I don't know what you do in this life, but I would hazzard to guess it is mediocre. Armed, and mediocre. I would assume DIE than live such a life, and this chapter of my life will assure I never have to. View Quote If you are willing to do it then so be it. FYI McSpoozie, you are dissing an ardent supporter with your statements. No, I am not out pulling women and children from burning buildings or exchanging classified information with operatives. But, I do have one of the most coveted positions in the entirety of the IT industry. I am fortunate because I am a rare person who actually gets to do what they truly enjoy as a living. For the most part, we do whatever we want whenever we want as we are fortunate to be blessed with financial freedom and a penchant for spontaneous behavior. Oh yeah... I still have my RKBA and if it ever became a forced decision between getting rid of my guns or losing my job, I have no qualms about finding similar employment with an organization that placed a higher value on individual freedom. I wouldn't hesitate to walk. Hell, I might even just take an early retirement at age 32. Fortunately, my CEO is pro gun and half my office comes and shoots my toys on a regular basis with the wife and I. All I am saying is that it sounds like a lot to give up to me, but if you are willing to live with the consequences in pursuit of your goals, then so be it. There isn't enough money on the planet for me to do the same. |
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Quoted: I get to go and work for the government doing a really groovy community service program, and get paid. I just got off the phone with my liasion, and I got accepted [:D][:D]. It had been pending, but it's official (The application to acceptance ratio was 370-1, so i'm pretty stoked. I knocked them dead in the interview portion) So... McUZI View Quote OH Goody (errrr I mean groovy)!! Another blood sucker on the taxpayers back! A "groovy community service program"?? Since when does anyone get paid to do "community service"? Seems like an oxy-moron to me. What's the deal, can't get a real job?? |
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Quoted:Does this program control your actions 24/7 or only when you are on the job? I understand not having a firearm on base or in a VA hospital... View Quote I don't understand not allowing weapons on base or in the hospital, can you explain it to me? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm on my way Stormbringer, I should be there around 10 tonight, I will bring my own beer and a mattress. quote] Ok so I missed something??? View Quote So no guns because he's staying in a government owned residence that does not allow firearms, I'd guess. |
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Cripes McUzi, first you smoke half my Marlboro's at the BRC, NOW your going to live off my hard earned tax dollars! How bout you just give me your address, & I'll mail you a pint of my own blood? Will A positive work for ya?[:)]
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Quoted: Anyone who works for the government is an asshole...or er yeah...something like that. Welcome to the world of being paid on a monthly basis. [;)] View Quote It's not so bad. I work for the county of Los Angeles. Though technically we get paid monthly in actuality we get an advance which is about half your monthly pay two weeks before so the net result is we get paid every two weeks. The best part is I don't have to pay into the rip-off known as social security. |
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mc uzi wanna sell your guns while your building your new life?
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Quoted: Quoted: No doubt Imbroglio saw this coming way back. [;)] View Quote ROTFLMAO! Bryan Wada Los Angeles, CA He's a teacher. For some university in CA. He also owns a McBros .50 BMG... I can link you to the site where he asks for loading data... View Quote Holy Crap! Did you just spill the beans on the Imbroglio scheme?!?! Inquiring minds want to know....[:D] |
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"But giving up shooting for a couple of years while I build a resume that will pay for my college, and eventually get me into some VERY big things?
Sure. That's a sacrafice I am willing to make." gotta go with ben on this one, mcuzi. money...i can make more than i need in a variety of ways that do not cut into my life. my wife, cycling and firearms mean far more to me than a few extra bucks. i hope your new community service position brings you happiness, more so than money. good luck! and stay in touch. |
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