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Posted: 7/18/2002 10:03:34 AM EST
I get to go and work for the government doing a really groovy community service program, and get paid. I just got off the phone with my liasion, and I got accepted [:D][:D]. It had been pending, but it's official (The application to acceptance ratio was 370-1, so i'm pretty stoked. I knocked them dead in the interview portion) So... Mid January, I will be moving to either Baltimore, MD, or Denver, CO. I thought I had a choice, but it turns out they pick it for me. Can anyone tell me anything about either? The guys on [url]www.full-auto.com[/url] helped me with this when my application was pending... Now that I am accepted, I need to know more about these places. Either place I go, per rules of the program, I can;t have any guns whatsoever, so I am screwed there. Thus, gun laws aren't a consideration as far as which place is the best. McUZI
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Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:08:48 AM EST
Isn't that something you get sentenced to, instead of applying to do?
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:10:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI: Either place I go, per rules of the program, I can;t have any guns whatsoever... McUZI
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What sort of 'community service' is it that you are prohibited from possessing firearms? Sure hope the bux are worth that little caveat...
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:11:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless: McUzi are you going to be STAYING wherever they are sending you or is it for some kind of training.
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I will be living on either an air force base, or in a block of houses on the property of a V-A hosp.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:13:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI: Either place I go, per rules of the program, I can;t have any guns whatsoever, so I am screwed there. Thus, gun laws aren't a consideration as far as which place is the best. McUZI
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"Those that would surrender essential liberty for a little temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security." -- A really smart founding father-type guy I'm THRILLED to know my tax dollars will go to support you. Just ecstatic. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:18:23 AM EST
Originally Posted By garandman: I'm THRILLED to know my tax dollars will go to support you. Just ecstatic. [rolleyes]
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That's right Garandman... They are going to support me. Every time you look at the deductions on your paycheck, think of me. See, Garandman, I am in a special government program where I am being trained as an assassin to take out the baby Jesus. And it will be all directly linked to your tax dollars. So, next time you ride your high horse into your Church, tell the believers to take up serpents in the name of McUZI.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:19:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 10:22:15 AM EST by raf]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:21:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By raf: No doubt Imbroglio saw this coming way back. [;)]
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ROTFLMAO! Bryan Wada Los Angeles, CA He's a teacher. For some university in CA. He also owns a McBros .50 BMG... I can link you to the site where he asks for loading data...
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:23:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 10:24:08 AM EST by garandman]
Originally Posted By McUZI: That's right Garandman... They are going to support me. Every time you look at the deductions on your paycheck, think of me. See, Garandman, I am in a special government program where I am being trained as an assassin to take out the baby Jesus. And it will be all directly linked to your tax dollars. So, next time you ride your high horse into your Church, tell the believers to take up serpents in the name of McUZI.
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See what I mean??? Gov't programs are a WASTE. To "take out baby Jesus" yer about 2,000 years too late, genius. [}:D] [}:D] Can we assume you'll be voting Democrat from now on???? Ya know, job security, and all. [}:D]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:23:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 10:26:05 AM EST by Chimborazo]
Well, I've never spent any amount of time in CO, but I have in MD. I would say that MD's gun laws are a pretty good indicator of the general political (read socialist) climate. I'd pick Denver. I really don't think it can be worse than Balt, and at least there's awesome skiing close by. Baltimore has horrible crime, and pretty much sucks (apart from the inner harbor). No offense to any Marylanders, just my $.02. Good luck. EDIT: I forgot you don't have a choice. Cross your fingers for Denver.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:23:58 AM EST
Work out of and around both. If you have to compare both it isn't pretty. Baltimore = Shithole [shock] Denver = Really Nice. [:D] To me, there would be no choice. If you end up in Balt. the inner city can be ugly, but be happy It's not DC. In the Community Service you would serve two very different types of people. If you speak any spanish your going to Denver. Good luck If you get out of the beltway it's ok
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:24:42 AM EST
Got popcorn? This is getting interesting... the_reject
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:26:30 AM EST
Way to go dude. That is good news. I hope it is in the medical field.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:33:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By garandman: See what I mean??? Gov't programs are a WASTE. To "take out baby Jesus" yer about 2,000 years too late, genius. [}:D] [}:D]
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We are preparing for his return... You not being able to think of that ahead of time tells me you aren't a very good chess player.
Can we assume you'll be voting Democrat from now on???? Ya know, job security, and all. [}:D]
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LMAO! Now THAT'S funny [:D]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:35:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By ura_baddog: If you end up in Balt. the inner city can be ugly, but be happy It's not DC.
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I will be spending 2 Months in DC.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:36:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI: Were preparing for his return... You not being able to think of that ahead of time tells me you aren;t a very good chess player. ]
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He ain't coming back as a baby, next time. [}:D] Can I go ahead and re-post your "Flame de garandman"??? It seems to be a real crowd pleaser. []:D]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:37:40 AM EST
I pray for you if you move to Baltimore.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:40:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By garandman: Can I go ahead and re-post your "Flame de garandman"??? It seems to be a real crowd pleaser. [}:D]
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Please do. It took me like an hour to write it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:42:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI: I get to go and work for the government doing a really groovy community service program, and get paid.......The application to acceptance ratio was 370-1, so i'm pretty stoked. McUZI
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Sounds like reverse 'affirmative action" at work, to me[:D]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:45:09 AM EST
Nah. I lied on my application, and checked "HISPANIC". Screw it. I can abuse the system to my advantage. And I look more Hispanic than 3/4 of the Raft Monkeys in Miami.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:49:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 10:52:39 AM EST by gus]
I work in downtown Baltimore. If you stay in the inner harbor area, by day, it's not too bad. Go 5 blocks in any direction and you're in deep shit. I spent all of last night working in some scary areas, and all I could think of was "I need to get another job". If it didn't pay so well, I would have been gone long ago. I moved to Pa. just to get away from Md. politics, taxation, and other negatives. Denver is pretty liberal too, but it HAS to be better than Baltimore! Then again, if you like boating, Maryland has lots to offer. Edited to add: knowing your opinions on people in general, you'll find plenty to hate about Baltimore!!! Also, if you do come here, look me up!
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:52:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:53:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI: Nah. I lied on my application, and checked "HISPANIC". .
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You should have checked "female" also. They're gov't workers - they'd never notice. [}:D] And if they did, they'd figger yer a drag queen and give ya a raise. [}:D]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 10:59:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By garandman: You should have checked "female" also.
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That reminds me. The Male/Female ratio for the program is 3F/2M... I didn't even ask. They were courting me a bit, and figured that would be a facet that would help me decide... [}:D] Glad it isn't a damn sausage fest...
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 11:02:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By FrankSquid: If you end up there, I'd be willing to swing by and bring Mr 50BMG and friends so you could do a little shooting.
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Oh thank god.... I would absolutley DIE!!!! if I had to go without shooting for the duration of the program. I might sneak in an AR, and I am DEFINITLEY bringing my Kel-Tec, for concealed urban protection while i'm in DC... But recreationial shooting is going to be something I won't be able to do as I please, like I do now [:(]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 11:11:19 AM EST
Where in DC?
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 11:12:40 AM EST
Uzis (semi-auto at least) are banned in MD!!! [pissed] GunLvr
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 11:27:59 AM EST
So how is it that forfeiting your 2nd Amendment RKBA in order to gain work through a government program is actually a good thing? What exactly is this programme? Are you building the gas chambers for large scale use in the near future? Does this program control your actions 24/7 or only when you are on the job? I understand not having a firearm on base or in a VA hospital, however, what is so great about this program that would make a person WANT to forfeit individual freedoms. The Soviet Socialist Republic provided food, work, housing, and clothing too. I just don't get it. I also do not understand such a program that carries these limitations on personal freedom.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 11:28:46 AM EST
Another thought ..... They must not have done much of a background check on ya, McU....or they'd have found out about the rowdy, gun-totin' Consitution-supportin', freedom - protectin' ne'er do wells you hang out with here.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 12:06:08 PM EST
So you're going to be helping the "under-privileged" community that you opine about so often... on the government's dime. Figures.
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McUzi??? Social work???? BWAHAHAHAAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah­ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 12:16:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless: I'm on my way Stormbringer, I should be there around 10 tonight, I will bring my own beer and a mattress. quote] Ok so I missed something???
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 12:26:42 PM EST
McUzi... On your remark about bringing your KelTec for DC: watch it, total handgun ban, which makes for its fine liveable environment ;-) Seriously, take Colorado if you can - I think taxes are less than in MD. Now, if you're living 'on base' I can see (I don't understand its principle but the basic contractual basis) not allowing your guns. However, in no way does that ban your OWNERSHIP of said guns, just their POSSESSION ON BASE (or whatever group housing situation you're in). So get a *secure* Rent-A-Space interior locker nearby and store your toys there. It'll be $20ish/mo, but having some firepower nearby is always a good thing. Good units are alarmed, with video & audio monitored for hallways, and you could protect stuff further by putting in a cheapie Homak 8-gun cabinet bolted to wall. Just remember your to pay bill so weapons don't get turned in to police station (standard procedure for storage locker nonpayment auctions). Bill Wiese San Mateo, CA
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 12:32:46 PM EST
McUZI FINALLY gets an affirmative action job. [:D] See I told you that checking "other" under race on your application would work.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 12:36:21 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 1:06:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By BenDover: So how is it that forfeiting your 2nd Amendment RKBA in order to gain work through a government program is actually a good thing?
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I am not forfeiting shit. If I were to go to work as a diplomat, I would have to accept that I couldn't bring my weapons to certain nations. If I were to work as an airplane mechanic, I would have to accept that I couldn't bring any weapons into the secure area...
What exactly is this programme? Are you building the gas chambers for large scale use in the near future?
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No. I am designing them. I leave the actual building to the less educated.
Does this program control your actions 24/7 or only when you are on the job? I understand not having a firearm on base or in a VA hospital, however, what is so great about this program that would make a person WANT to forfeit individual freedoms.
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There are a lot of things that are great about it. That's why thousands of people apply, and only a few are chosen.
The Soviet Socialist Republic provided food, work, housing, and clothing too.
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COOL! Did they pay a salary too [?][?]
I just don't get it. I also do not understand such a program that carries these limitations on personal freedom.
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The operative term is [b]PERSONAL[/b]. They are within their rights to set whatever paramaters they choose, and if I don't like them, I don't have to join. If the program was "You have to give up your RKBA rights, and hand your guns into the sawmill", I wouldn't join. But giving up shooting for a couple of years while I build a resume that will pay for my college, and eventually get me into some VERY big things? Sure. That's a sacrafice I am willing to make. I don't know what you do in this life, but I would hazzard to guess it is mediocre. Armed, and mediocre. I would assume DIE than live such a life, and this chapter of my life will assure I never have to.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 1:17:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI: But giving up shooting for a couple of years while I build a resume that will pay for my college, and eventually get me into some VERY big things?
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Don't tell me. It's got something to do with Hillary Clinton, right?
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 1:20:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By TheCommissioner: Don't tell me. It's got something to do with Hillary Clinton, right?
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Actually, yeah. I am in training to be her chamber-boy [:E]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 1:40:44 PM EST
I knew it! That would explain the "Why aren't you all bragging about illegal assault weapons?" thread. Oh wait, it's not that kind of job... I was a tutor for one of the departments of my university, which counts as a government job. Actually, I'm not even sure if I still have it (neither are they, and it's hard to figure out who "they" is). I could probably keep turning in timecards and they'd keep paying me, but that's another subject. What's really funny is when they make you sign a contract that you will follow the constitution, and then put you on government property where guns are banned.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 2:06:54 PM EST
Anyone who works for the government is an asshole...or er yeah...something like that. Welcome to the world of being paid on a monthly basis. [;)]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 2:11:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 2:20:59 PM EST by BenDover]
Originally Posted By McUZI: That's a sacrafice I am willing to make. I don't know what you do in this life, but I would hazzard to guess it is mediocre. Armed, and mediocre. I would assume DIE than live such a life, and this chapter of my life will assure I never have to.
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If you are willing to do it then so be it. FYI McSpoozie, you are dissing an ardent supporter with your statements. No, I am not out pulling women and children from burning buildings or exchanging classified information with operatives. But, I do have one of the most coveted positions in the entirety of the IT industry. I am fortunate because I am a rare person who actually gets to do what they truly enjoy as a living. For the most part, we do whatever we want whenever we want as we are fortunate to be blessed with financial freedom and a penchant for spontaneous behavior. Oh yeah... I still have my RKBA and if it ever became a forced decision between getting rid of my guns or losing my job, I have no qualms about finding similar employment with an organization that placed a higher value on individual freedom. I wouldn't hesitate to walk. Hell, I might even just take an early retirement at age 32. Fortunately, my CEO is pro gun and half my office comes and shoots my toys on a regular basis with the wife and I. All I am saying is that it sounds like a lot to give up to me, but if you are willing to live with the consequences in pursuit of your goals, then so be it. There isn't enough money on the planet for me to do the same.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 2:18:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI: I get to go and work for the government doing a really groovy community service program, and get paid. I just got off the phone with my liasion, and I got accepted [:D][:D]. It had been pending, but it's official (The application to acceptance ratio was 370-1, so i'm pretty stoked. I knocked them dead in the interview portion) So... McUZI
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OH Goody (errrr I mean groovy)!! Another blood sucker on the taxpayers back! A "groovy community service program"?? Since when does anyone get paid to do "community service"? Seems like an oxy-moron to me. What's the deal, can't get a real job??
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 2:22:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By BenDover:Does this program control your actions 24/7 or only when you are on the job? I understand not having a firearm on base or in a VA hospital...
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I don't understand not allowing weapons on base or in the hospital, can you explain it to me?
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 2:23:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2002 2:26:53 PM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 2:37:58 PM EST
Cripes McUzi, first you smoke half my Marlboro's at the BRC, NOW your going to live off my hard earned tax dollars! How bout you just give me your address, & I'll mail you a pint of my own blood? Will A positive work for ya?[:)]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 2:44:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG: Anyone who works for the government is an asshole...or er yeah...something like that. Welcome to the world of being paid on a monthly basis. [;)]
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It's not so bad. I work for the county of Los Angeles. Though technically we get paid monthly in actuality we get an advance which is about half your monthly pay two weeks before so the net result is we get paid every two weeks. The best part is I don't have to pay into the rip-off known as social security.
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 3:04:32 PM EST
mc uzi wanna sell your guns while your building your new life?
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 3:21:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By McUZI:
Originally Posted By raf: No doubt Imbroglio saw this coming way back. [;)]
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ROTFLMAO! Bryan Wada Los Angeles, CA He's a teacher. For some university in CA. He also owns a McBros .50 BMG... I can link you to the site where he asks for loading data...
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Holy Crap! Did you just spill the beans on the Imbroglio scheme?!?! Inquiring minds want to know....[:D]
Link Posted: 7/18/2002 3:32:31 PM EST
"But giving up shooting for a couple of years while I build a resume that will pay for my college, and eventually get me into some VERY big things? Sure. That's a sacrafice I am willing to make." gotta go with ben on this one, mcuzi. money...i can make more than i need in a variety of ways that do not cut into my life. my wife, cycling and firearms mean far more to me than a few extra bucks. i hope your new community service position brings you happiness, more so than money. good luck! and stay in touch.
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