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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:28:49 AM EDT
Post them up!

Hessian-1
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 2:57:35 AM EDT
I hae a little Navy Arms Rolling Block. I have shot a ton of 38 wadcutters out of it. In 357 I like most of the 158 gr Hollow points and 150-175 Gr hard cast semi wadcutters or WFP even better.


I a;lso had some of these here
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 4:55:43 AM EDT
Something pointy around 250g and sub sonic. Through a 12ish inch SBRed Ruger 77 357 that is safe for a 9mm pistol can. Can I have that?
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 6:14:09 AM EDT
One of the original (1970s ) 1892 Rossi Saddle Ring Carbine. 158 grain HP or soft nose. Light game the 125 grain. Plinking 38 special, any bullet.
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 6:19:41 AM EDT
180 gr XTP with a healthy dose of 2400 powder
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 6:22:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By buckstrucks:
Something pointy around 250g and sub sonic. Through a 12ish inch SBRed Ruger 77 357 that is safe for a 9mm pistol can. Can I have that?
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I like your style.
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:05:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By buckstrucks:
Something pointy around 250g and sub sonic. Through a 12ish inch SBRed Ruger 77 357 that is safe for a 9mm pistol can. Can I have that?
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/444072_My_357_Magnum_Carbine.html



My experimental super heavy subsonic load. 245gr powder coated cast bullet, SAECO 352 on 10gr of Lilgun in a 38 SPL case. Fits and feed well. God my camera sucks at macro....


More load testing;

245gr pccb SAECO 352 Powder coat, dry tumble
38spl brass
WSP primer
Lil'gun powder
OAL to fit mag

10 shot avg. Chrony Beta

7.3gr 972fps 514fpe

7.5gr 1000fps 544fpe

7.7gr 1042fps 590fpe WWCD

8.0gr 1080fps 634fpe

8.2gr 1087fps 643fpe

8.5gr 1106fps 665fpe

50yd group





Looks like 7.7-7.8gr is my Lil-gun load. Put a few 7.7's through the Osprey and it is stapler quiet and really rocks steel gongs.
It seriously wants to shoot bughole groups.


Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:11:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2015 7:13:18 AM EDT by snaggletoof]


Nice. I have been fighting the urge to SBR a lever action .357 and thread the barrel for a suppressor like that osprey. That may have just pushed me over the edge.
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:16:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By snaggletoof:

Nice. I have been fighting the urge to SBR a lever action .357 and thread the barrel for a suppressor like that osprey. That may have just pushed me over the edge.
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Be careful with lever guns, some do not have the twist rate sufficient to stabilize these big slugs. 77/357 is 1:16 twist
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 10:16:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2015 10:52:03 AM EDT by gtfoxy]
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Originally Posted By postban:


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/444072_My_357_Magnum_Carbine.html

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150401_165125_zpskrao92yy.jpg

My experimental super heavy subsonic load. 245gr powder coated cast bullet, SAECO 352 on 10gr of Lilgun in a 38 SPL case. Fits and feed well. God my camera sucks at macro....
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/1428449641_zpsae1b5527.jpg

More load testing;

245gr pccb SAECO 352 Powder coat, dry tumble
38spl brass
WSP primer
Lil'gun powder
OAL to fit mag

10 shot avg. Chrony Beta

7.3gr 972fps 514fpe

7.5gr 1000fps 544fpe

7.7gr 1042fps 590fpe WWCD

8.0gr 1080fps 634fpe

8.2gr 1087fps 643fpe

8.5gr 1106fps 665fpe

50yd group
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150509_160142_zpsaicbriqu.jpg




Looks like 7.7-7.8gr is my Lil-gun load. Put a few 7.7's through the Osprey and it is stapler quiet and really rocks steel gongs.
It seriously wants to shoot bughole groups.

http://youtu.be/h42XNnNBxDY
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Originally Posted By postban:
Originally Posted By buckstrucks:
Something pointy around 250g and sub sonic. Through a 12ish inch SBRed Ruger 77 357 that is safe for a 9mm pistol can. Can I have that?


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/444072_My_357_Magnum_Carbine.html

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150401_165125_zpskrao92yy.jpg

My experimental super heavy subsonic load. 245gr powder coated cast bullet, SAECO 352 on 10gr of Lilgun in a 38 SPL case. Fits and feed well. God my camera sucks at macro....
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/1428449641_zpsae1b5527.jpg

More load testing;

245gr pccb SAECO 352 Powder coat, dry tumble
38spl brass
WSP primer
Lil'gun powder
OAL to fit mag

10 shot avg. Chrony Beta

7.3gr 972fps 514fpe

7.5gr 1000fps 544fpe

7.7gr 1042fps 590fpe WWCD

8.0gr 1080fps 634fpe

8.2gr 1087fps 643fpe

8.5gr 1106fps 665fpe

50yd group
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150509_160142_zpsaicbriqu.jpg




Looks like 7.7-7.8gr is my Lil-gun load. Put a few 7.7's through the Osprey and it is stapler quiet and really rocks steel gongs.
It seriously wants to shoot bughole groups.

http://youtu.be/h42XNnNBxDY


We should chat... I would like to see a 300grn coated cast done for my project. Edit: My bad, I thought you had made your own casts...

This is what 250grn subs look like... Heavier would be better.


Link Posted: 7/2/2015 10:58:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 12:16:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gtfoxy:

We should chat... I would like to see a 300grn coated cast done for my project. Edit: My bad, I thought you had made your own casts...


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I did cast those^, reclaimed WW alloy http://www.midwayusa.com/product/407828/saeco-1-cavity-magnum-bullet-mold-352-35-caliber-358-diameter-245-grain-flat-nose-gas-check

Thinking about getting one of these too; 280grn Lyman 358009 mold
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 12:21:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2015 12:22:20 PM EDT by dbd870]
Not a Mag, but for my 357Max I use a 180gr SSP (not being made at the moment ) behind a max charge of H110. Encore carbine.
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 12:29:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Crap. Now I either have to do a Form1 or buy a carbine...

I've got a pistol .357 that is pretty dang quiet with subsonics, now I want to try some hot carbine loads.

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Nice^.
They are sweet with supers too.
Supposedly SilencerCo said 357 Mag is ok through OSPREY9 if bbl length is 16+ .Somebody posted that in suppressors forum here.
This is a 110gr Sierra Blitz with a max charge of H110.

Link Posted: 7/2/2015 1:08:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2015 1:09:21 PM EDT by gtfoxy]
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Originally Posted By postban:


I did cast those^, reclaimed WW alloy http://www.midwayusa.com/product/407828/saeco-1-cavity-magnum-bullet-mold-352-35-caliber-358-diameter-245-grain-flat-nose-gas-check

Thinking about getting one of these too; 280grn Lyman 358009 mold
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Originally Posted By postban:
Originally Posted By gtfoxy:

We should chat... I would like to see a 300grn coated cast done for my project. Edit: My bad, I thought you had made your own casts...




I did cast those^, reclaimed WW alloy http://www.midwayusa.com/product/407828/saeco-1-cavity-magnum-bullet-mold-352-35-caliber-358-diameter-245-grain-flat-nose-gas-check

Thinking about getting one of these too; 280grn Lyman 358009 mold


Sweet.

I saw those 280 moulds. I would try those as well.

I would really like to make a mould based off the Woodleigh 310grn W54's but in a hollow point.
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:02:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2015 7:09:24 PM EDT by Andrapos]
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:12:35 PM EDT
I used to need tons of speed in .357 carbine loads. I'm still shooting up a mountain of cast .357 loads with a maximum charge of slow burning powder. Thank God I got over that phase.

These days, my goto load for hunting is a +p .38 shot in the same rifle, with a 115 grain SWC or 121gr. LRN going 1,200 fps.
Very nice for target practice and small game hunting.

This is our last year for hunting with lead, so my new fav. is going to be the cheapest copper monolithic slugs I can locate.
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:22:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By postban:


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/444072_My_357_Magnum_Carbine.html

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150401_165125_zpskrao92yy.jpg

My experimental super heavy subsonic load. 245gr powder coated cast bullet, SAECO 352 on 10gr of Lilgun in a 38 SPL case. Fits and feed well. God my camera sucks at macro....
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/1428449641_zpsae1b5527.jpg

More load testing;

245gr pccb SAECO 352 Powder coat, dry tumble
38spl brass
WSP primer
Lil'gun powder
OAL to fit mag

10 shot avg. Chrony Beta

7.3gr 972fps 514fpe

7.5gr 1000fps 544fpe

7.7gr 1042fps 590fpe WWCD

8.0gr 1080fps 634fpe

8.2gr 1087fps 643fpe

8.5gr 1106fps 665fpe

50yd group
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150509_160142_zpsaicbriqu.jpg




Looks like 7.7-7.8gr is my Lil-gun load. Put a few 7.7's through the Osprey and it is stapler quiet and really rocks steel gongs.
It seriously wants to shoot bughole groups.

http://youtu.be/h42XNnNBxDY
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Originally Posted By postban:
Originally Posted By buckstrucks:
Something pointy around 250g and sub sonic. Through a 12ish inch SBRed Ruger 77 357 that is safe for a 9mm pistol can. Can I have that?


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/444072_My_357_Magnum_Carbine.html

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150401_165125_zpskrao92yy.jpg

My experimental super heavy subsonic load. 245gr powder coated cast bullet, SAECO 352 on 10gr of Lilgun in a 38 SPL case. Fits and feed well. God my camera sucks at macro....
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/1428449641_zpsae1b5527.jpg

More load testing;

245gr pccb SAECO 352 Powder coat, dry tumble
38spl brass
WSP primer
Lil'gun powder
OAL to fit mag

10 shot avg. Chrony Beta

7.3gr 972fps 514fpe

7.5gr 1000fps 544fpe

7.7gr 1042fps 590fpe WWCD

8.0gr 1080fps 634fpe

8.2gr 1087fps 643fpe

8.5gr 1106fps 665fpe

50yd group
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/Ruger%2077-357/IMG_20150509_160142_zpsaicbriqu.jpg




Looks like 7.7-7.8gr is my Lil-gun load. Put a few 7.7's through the Osprey and it is stapler quiet and really rocks steel gongs.
It seriously wants to shoot bughole groups.

http://youtu.be/h42XNnNBxDY



Cool post, thanks for the link.
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:24:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By California14er:
I used to need tons of speed in .357 carbine loads. I'm still shooting up a mountain of cast .357 loads with a maximum charge of slow burning powder. Thank God I got over that phase.

These days, my goto load for hunting is a +p .38 shot in the same rifle, with a 115 grain SWC or 121gr. LRN going 1,200 fps.
Very nice for target practice and small game hunting.

This is our last year for hunting with lead, so my new fav. is going to be the cheapest copper monolithic slugs I can locate.
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Barnes is the answer you seek. They have a 140gr HP solid copper round.

and FCALI
Link Posted: 7/2/2015 7:33:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2015 7:34:21 PM EDT by California14er]
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Originally Posted By carljung:

Barnes is the answer you seek. They have a 140gr HP solid copper round.

and FCALI
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Originally Posted By carljung:
Originally Posted By California14er:
I used to need tons of speed in .357 carbine loads. I'm still shooting up a mountain of cast .357 loads with a maximum charge of slow burning powder. Thank God I got over that phase.

These days, my goto load for hunting is a +p .38 shot in the same rifle, with a 115 grain SWC or 121gr. LRN going 1,200 fps.
Very nice for target practice and small game hunting.

This is our last year for hunting with lead, so my new fav. is going to be the cheapest copper monolithic slugs I can locate.

Barnes is the answer you seek. They have a 140gr HP solid copper round.

and FCALI


For casual small game hunting, I've acquired a hatful of C.O.P.'s 80 grain copper hollow points. They seem to shoot laser straight in 9mm pistols, .38's and .357 lever actions. For more serious work(deer), I'm considering adopting Barnes' 110 grain copper hp, pushed as fast as it will go in a .357 rifle.

The issue with these bullets is they mike .351" or 2 in diameter. When seating these, your resizing die needed to compress the casings several thousandths Xtra. Some reloading dies don't shrink the cases enough to achieve a good grab on the projectile!

If this issue comes up for you, it must be handled and dealt with.
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