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MO, USA
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I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature.
So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:17:33 PM EST
.44 magnum
then the big boys calibers... 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:18:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By imq707s:
I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature. So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? Shouldn't that be enough? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:21:56 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By edman99:
Shouldn't that be enough? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edman99:
Originally Posted By imq707s:
I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature. So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? Shouldn't that be enough? That shit would be awesome in my airweight J Frame. 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:24:17 PM EST
Try ol' Shakey's down at the bait shop.
His magn'm bullets really pack a whallop.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:24:20 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By BURN:
.44 magnum then the big boys calibers... Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:26:04 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By edman99:
Shouldn't that be enough? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edman99:
Originally Posted By imq707s:
I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature. So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? Shouldn't that be enough? That's like saying....why would you ever want a 30rnd AR mag......isn't 20 rounds enough?
"Enough" is really a pretty fluid term. Just wondering who makes the most powerful stuff you can buy. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:26:16 PM EST
Buffalo bore would be where I started. After that you're dealing with bubba the reloader selling zip lock bags of ammo at a gun show.
The first time I shot a 357 was in a friend of a friends gun. He offered to let me shoot it so I did. The kick was crisp. When I went to eject the rounds, the brass was pretty stuck in the cylinder. I asked him what brand of ammo he was using. That's when he informed me his uncle had reloaded him some "hot" stuff. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:26:35 PM EST
That's 10mm power. Plenty for anything you're going to run into in your area. I've seen a very pissed off, unbroken horse get dropped with 3 rounds of FMJ from a G26. Realistically, you'll be better off with plain old WWB hollow points that you've practiced with and can shoot well rather than an uber magnum load that you haven't used before.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:31:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By imq707s: I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Is there anything better out there?  |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:32:11 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By portablegorilla:
That's 10mm power. Plenty for anything you're going to run into in your area. I've seen a very pissed off, unbroken horse get dropped with 3 rounds of FMJ from a G26. Realistically, you'll be better off with plain old WWB hollow points that you've practiced with and can shoot well rather than an uber magnum load that you haven't used before. Yeah, that's a good point. If I bought a bunch of that Buffalo Bore ammo......would it end up tearing up my GP100 if I shot a bunch of hot rounds through it for practice? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:33:28 PM EST
Probably not, that's a pretty stout load in its own right....but they are expensive!
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:33:29 PM EST
Another 180gr from underwood:https://www.underwoodammo.com/357-magnum-180-grain-lead-flat-nose-gas-check/
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:34:41 PM EST
would it end up tearing up my GP100 if I shot a bunch of hot rounds through it for practice? Nope. I doubt most people could afford the amount of Buffalo Bore ammo necessary to loosen up a GP100... |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:37:12 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
Yeah, that's a good point. If I bought a bunch of that Buffalo Bore ammo......would it end up tearing up my GP100 if I shot a bunch of hot rounds through it for practice? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By portablegorilla:
That's 10mm power. Plenty for anything you're going to run into in your area. I've seen a very pissed off, unbroken horse get dropped with 3 rounds of FMJ from a G26. Realistically, you'll be better off with plain old WWB hollow points that you've practiced with and can shoot well rather than an uber magnum load that you haven't used before. Yeah, that's a good point. If I bought a bunch of that Buffalo Bore ammo......would it end up tearing up my GP100 if I shot a bunch of hot rounds through it for practice? No. GP100 is a brick shithouse, you can run as many full house rounds through it as you can afford to buy. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:39:02 PM EST
Load your own. Just fill that case up with bullseye and a mag primer. It'll be one hell of a blast. (Don't do that, it'll blow up, really.)
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:41:56 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
Yeah, that's a good point. If I bought a bunch of that Buffalo Bore ammo......would it end up tearing up my GP100 if I shot a bunch of hot rounds through it for practice? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By portablegorilla:
That's 10mm power. Plenty for anything you're going to run into in your area. I've seen a very pissed off, unbroken horse get dropped with 3 rounds of FMJ from a G26. Realistically, you'll be better off with plain old WWB hollow points that you've practiced with and can shoot well rather than an uber magnum load that you haven't used before. Yeah, that's a good point. If I bought a bunch of that Buffalo Bore ammo......would it end up tearing up my GP100 if I shot a bunch of hot rounds through it for practice? Your GP100 is built like a tank. I doubt there's a commercial load out there that will tear that up. A S&W 19 or 66, on the other hand wouldn't take the abuse of a steady diet of those .357 thumpers at all. 686 or 27 would be OK. Don't even think about doing it with a Python or Trooper. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:42:30 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By manowar669:
Load your own. Just fill that case up with bullseye and a mag primer. It'll be one hell of a blast. (Don't do that, it'll blow up, really.) Thought about reloading my own....I currently load really light lead bullet rounds for plinking. Not sure I want to mess with loading up super hot magnum rounds...I will leave that to the pro's. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:44:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 9:47:46 PM EST by smcclain]
Bang for the buck I carry this in the woods... 180gr and pretty hot, not Buffalo hot tho
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:49:29 PM EST
9mm 147gr HST.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:49:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 9:51:17 PM EST by Roland3]
I hand load for my GP100 and found a nice heavy load. Cant remember off hand what it is. But I did some sizzling hot light hollow point loads and some slow burning powder heavy loads. I like the heavy ones best. I think it was 158 grain bullet with 14 grains of 2400 powder.
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NM, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:51:28 PM EST
I shot some Buffalo Bore .357 mag out of a Taurus 605. Holy fucking ouch. Never again.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 9:57:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By imq707s:
I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature. So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? I've shot the BB 180 grain out of my gp100 its controllable and powerful. There may be hotter, but that's hot enough for .357. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:02:01 PM EST
Don't need the most powerful .357 round to kill stuff, I've had buddies kill brown bears and Polar bears with the the little ole 7.62×25mm, it cut through the skull like a hot knife through butter.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:04:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By imq707s: I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature. So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:05:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 10:08:45 PM EST by imq707s]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THE_BUSHMAN:
Don't need the most powerful .357 round to kill stuff, I've had buddies kill brown bears and Polar bears with the the little ole 7.62×25mm, it cut through the skull like a hot knife through butter. I'm sure you could kill a grizzly with a bb gun if you tried hard enough 
Has GD turned into the place for people to post their facebook comments?
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:07:30 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By DernHumpus:
Wow, that's almost my 10mm ;) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DernHumpus:
Originally Posted By imq707s:
I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature. So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? If I had a 10mm I wouldn't be carrying my .357
Hard to be a GP100 though.......especially for a trail gun. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:10:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By imq707s:
......would it end up tearing up my GP100 if I shot a bunch of hot rounds through it for practice? 
Nope. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:14:20 PM EST
10 grns of blue dot under a 170 grn hard cast bullet will do anything you need to do for a few cents a round if you load your self. Pm Me if you want more info
I ran these through my chrono with a 4 " revolver and averaged 1425 fps. 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:18:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 10:27:08 PM EST by FluffyTheCat]
I like the .357; however, if you want more power you really need more bullet.
And when it comes to more bullet, get a 45 Colt. I have a Ruger Blackhawk and you can shoot 340 grain bullets that will absolutely crush any living target. 9 grains of Unique will provide 880 fps with the 340 grain bullet in a Ruger Blackhawk. And a hard cast bullet of this weight will shoot through both sides of a buffalo. And it is still relatively controllable. More bullet. Not more velocity |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:18:13 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
Thought about reloading my own....I currently load really light lead bullet rounds for plinking. Not sure I want to mess with loading up super hot magnum rounds...I will leave that to the pro's. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By manowar669:
Load your own. Just fill that case up with bullseye and a mag primer. It'll be one hell of a blast. (Don't do that, it'll blow up, really.) Thought about reloading my own....I currently load really light lead bullet rounds for plinking. Not sure I want to mess with loading up super hot magnum rounds...I will leave that to the pro's. Loading heavy loads is no different than light loads. Just use good reloading data and start at the low end and work up to the high checking for signs of over pressure. And 1400 fps is about all you're going to get with 180 gr bullets without exceeding the pressure limit. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:42:11 PM EST
Was in Wyoming for ten days. Was going to traipse around Jellystone an the Bighorns a good bit, was unarmed, so bro let me borrow his GP100. Nive gun, BTW. Got some of those BB hardcasts for travelling. Shot most of them up at the end of the trip. Impressive round and gun.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:44:32 PM EST
GP100s are so over-engineered it's just about impossible to blow one up. You'll blow primers long, long before you actually hurt the gun.
Remember, with those 180gr 1400+fps rounds, you're getting close to 30 carbine territory out of an M1. That's pretty impressive from a little old handgun. Those 1400fps loads also are out of a 5", if you have a 6" GP, they're even faster. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:48:26 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
That's like saying....why would you ever want a 30rnd AR mag......isn't 20 rounds enough?
"Enough" is really a pretty fluid term. Just wondering who makes the most powerful stuff you can buy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By edman99:
Originally Posted By imq707s:
I always take my Ruger GP100 .357 with me when I go hiking/camping. I usually just load it up with your standard off the shelf HD ammo. I'd like to get something hotter.....the most powerful loads I can get. Something that won't leave me thinking "crap, I wish I would have bought a more powerful load" if I ever have to pull it and use it on a pissed off 4-leg creature. So far, I've seen that Buffalo Bore makes a " Heavy 357 Mag Outdoorsman " load that's a 180gr hard cast bullet being pushed at 1,400fps and 783ft/lbs. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=162 Is there anything better out there? Shouldn't that be enough? That's like saying....why would you ever want a 30rnd AR mag......isn't 20 rounds enough?
"Enough" is really a pretty fluid term. Just wondering who makes the most powerful stuff you can buy. Capacity vs. per-shot energy & momentum are different things. This is why I like my G20L - plenty of mass & energy on target, 15 rounds on tap, and I can reload quickly and easily. Having said that, the Buffalo Bore Heavy 180's would be a reasonable field choice for a .357 revolver. I know I don't really want to shoot anything stouter. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:04:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 11:06:56 PM EST by Dipper]
Yeah, the Buffalo Bore load is the way to go. It is completely safe and well within acceptable pressures.... it is not an overpressure or high pressure load...... completely safe.
180 Gr. out of a 4 inch or longer .357 Magnum revolver will put just about anything alive down with good shot placement. ETA: Those loads out of a Marlin 1894c rifle are fantastic and turns the rifle into a reliable whitetail killer out to about 150 yards. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:08:55 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By BURN:
.44 magnum then the big boys calibers... Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... No I comprehend just fine...you just posted the hostest 357 factory load that I am aware of so the next best thing is 44mag
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:10:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 11:13:34 PM EST by THE_BUSHMAN]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
I'm sure you could kill a grizzly with a bb gun if you tried hard enough
Has GD turned into the place for people to post their facebook comments? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By THE_BUSHMAN:
Don't need the most powerful .357 round to kill stuff, I've had buddies kill brown bears and Polar bears with the the little ole 7.62×25mm, it cut through the skull like a hot knife through butter. I'm sure you could kill a grizzly with a bb gun if you tried hard enough
Has GD turned into the place for people to post their facebook comments? Maybe check with Chip's Hailstone son.He kills monster BB with his .243 rifle also. Yes real life living, not fantasyland .
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:00:46 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 45_nut:
10 grns of blue dot under a 170 grn hard cast bullet will do anything you need to do for a few cents a round if you load your self. Pm Me if you want more info I ran these through my chrono with a 4 " revolver and averaged 1425 fps. Just shot you a PM
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:07:29 AM EST
I personally would like telekinesis as my super power. Think about it. you can move yourself with your mind, so you can fly. you can make a shield against bullets. Heck you might even be able to bend air and make yourself invisible. It is like a multi power super power.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:12:33 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
I personally would like telekinesis as my super power. Think about it. you can move yourself with your mind, so you can fly. you can make a shield against bullets. Heck you might even be able to bend air and make yourself invisible. It is like a multi power super power. And you could move your .357 bullets really, really fast! |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:15:43 AM EST
I remember something about IMI having the hottest commercially available round. It wasn't intentional, it was just wicked hot.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:20:07 AM EST
I'll have to try those in my Winchester lever gun
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:26:11 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:
I like the .357; however, if you want more power you really need more bullet. And when it comes to more bullet, get a 45 Colt. I have a Ruger Blackhawk and you can shoot 340 grain bullets that will absolutely crush any living target. 9 grains of Unique will provide 880 fps with the 340 grain bullet in a Ruger Blackhawk. And a hard cast bullet of this weight will shoot through both sides of a buffalo. And it is still relatively controllable. More bullet. Not more velocity This. Performance in a pistol round is measured in penetration. Penetration is all about cross sectional density. High velocity light rounds risk fragmentation. Get the heaviest hard cast bullet you can find. Animals don't "give up" they are either DRT or they ride the adrenaline rush and you have to wait for them to bleed out. Punching big, deep holes makes sure they bleed out faster. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:38:37 AM EST
No idea. I haven't bought factory .357 ammo in a long time. Since before some of you were born. I load a 158gr jsp. which works better than a jhp as far as I'm concerned.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:38:51 AM EST
.357 maximum. I have a Contender with it, real wrist breaker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Remington_Maximum |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 8:49:13 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
I'm sure you could kill a grizzly with a bb gun if you tried hard enough
Has GD turned into the place for people to post their facebook comments? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By THE_BUSHMAN:
Don't need the most powerful .357 round to kill stuff, I've had buddies kill brown bears and Polar bears with the the little ole 7.62×25mm, it cut through the skull like a hot knife through butter. I'm sure you could kill a grizzly with a bb gun if you tried hard enough
Has GD turned into the place for people to post their facebook comments? Some of the stuff is getting out of hand. In the spotting scope thread a guy was saying that he could see bullet holes at 200 yards with his eyes. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:12:50 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By BURN:
.44 magnum then the big boys calibers... Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... he is right, the solution is more gun |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:15:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/24/2016 10:17:01 AM EST by wildearp]
.357 Maximum.
(.300AAC is a better choice)
Who is going to be the first to make a revolver in this caliber or did I already miss it? |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:18:44 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By imq707s:
Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By BURN:
.44 magnum then the big boys calibers... Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... Let me comprehend this for you: "Is there anything better out there?" The answer is clearly yes. And, that answer does not lie within a Ruger GP100 in .357 magnum.  
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:23:10 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:
I like the .357; however, if you want more power you really need more bullet. And when it comes to more bullet, get a 45 Colt. I have a Ruger Blackhawk and you can shoot 340 grain bullets that will absolutely crush any living target. 9 grains of Unique will provide 880 fps with the 340 grain bullet in a Ruger Blackhawk. And a hard cast bullet of this weight will shoot through both sides of a buffalo. And it is still relatively controllable. More bullet. Not more velocity Wow! Fluffy and I completely agree. There's a reason Elephant, Cape Buffalo, etc., are not hunted with a 22-250 Give me a big, heavy, (slow) bullet any day over a little fast one |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:26:58 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By wildearp:
Let me comprehend this for you: "Is there anything better out there?" The answer is clearly yes. And, that answer does not lie within a Ruger GP100 in .357 magnum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wildearp:
Originally Posted By imq707s:
Originally Posted By BURN:
.44 magnum then the big boys calibers... Apparently reading comprehension is too much for some people..... Let me comprehend this for you: "Is there anything better out there?" The answer is clearly yes. And, that answer does not lie within a Ruger GP100 in .357 magnum. That wasn't the original question...there is always something "Better". I was looking for "Best" in .357mag. |
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