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Posted: 9/7/2007 7:25:07 PM EST
(Copied and pasted from what I wrote in another thread)


As a side note, anyone who posts a link to Maddox's review of the iPhone gets punched in the face. I've read it, it's funny, but I'm looking for the opinions of those who use an iPhone currently or have thought over getting one.


My local AT&T store has both models in stock and I'm wicked tempted to get either one. I figure if I am going to spend $300 for the 4GB, I mine as well spend the extra $100 to double my capacity.

I played with one in the store today and it was very cool. The widgets were neat (checking the weather and stocks in 2 seconds time was awesome!). My biggest concern is AT&T's EDGE network, with 5 bars (I was literally 50 yards away from a tower) the connection was pretty slow. Even though it was better than 56k, it still took a bit to load stuff like CNN.com or the Drudge Report.

Right now I'm torn...I already have AT&T and if I got the phone I would be able to transfer my account info (such as my rollover minutes) without issue. My plan would only cost about $10 and would include the unlimited internet. At the same time I would be spending $400 on the phone (much improved from $600, but still a lot) and would also be locked into another 2 years on the phone.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:46:18 PM EST
Don't everyone hop in at once
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:47:25 PM EST


Wait for the Gphone

Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:50:57 PM EST
Not
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:54:30 PM EST
I just don't understand the need to spend 399 on a phone.. Its a phone. What is the attraction to the Iphone?
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:56:37 PM EST
No

It's not a 3G phone; only uses EDGE. Personally, I wouldn't get a phone (in this day and age) that isn't 3G. But that's just me.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:57:30 PM EST
I checked one out at work for a week a couple times, and I'm not impressed. Stuff I don't like:

  • Slow wireless - no 3G

  • Hard for my fat fingers to "zoom" the browser instead of clicking on something

  • lots of freaking actions to type English.

  • Doesn't sync with Exchange or Blackberry (yes, you can use IMAP. Thanks, not cutting it)

  • non-removable battery?



Stuff I liked:

  • Smallish.

  • Full-fledged web browser, even if nothing supports it correctly

  • the finish is tough - this isn't a replay of the 'touch it and it scratches' iPod nanos

  • visual voicemail



Honestly, I'd pass for now. The lack of exchange integration means carrying two devices, which is a no-go.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:58:52 PM EST
Id pass on it myself
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:59:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By ben72227:
No

It's not a 3G phone; only uses EDGE. Personally, I wouldn't get a phone (in this day and age) that isn't 3G. But that's just me.


The reason they use 2G is battery life. Anything that takes more CPU burns the battery faster.

That said, I agree. It's ass.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 7:59:49 PM EST
Not, never got into hippy apple/mac scene
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:00:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 8:02:33 PM EST by JonasWright]
To borrow from Maddox on the iphone hype.




ETA after - rats.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:12:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 8:12:49 PM EST by roboman]

Originally Posted By ben72227:
No

It's not a 3G phone; only uses EDGE. Personally, I wouldn't get a phone (in this day and age) that isn't 3G. But that's just me.


Is it a moot point if 3G is offered in no areas I would plan on using the phone in?
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:22:01 PM EST
I've made a decision to not buy one until the next generation of iPhones come out. I figure why be a beta tester?
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:24:39 PM EST
Spend your money on another gun.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:27:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By ben72227:
No

It's not a 3G phone; only uses EDGE. Personally, I wouldn't get a phone (in this day and age) that isn't 3G. But that's just me.


Is it a moot point if 3G is offered in no areas I would plan on using the phone in?


Yes, until that area is upgraded to support 3G, or until you travel somewhere that does.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:34:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By RyJones:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By ben72227:
No

It's not a 3G phone; only uses EDGE. Personally, I wouldn't get a phone (in this day and age) that isn't 3G. But that's just me.


Is it a moot point if 3G is offered in no areas I would plan on using the phone in?


Yes, until that area is upgraded to support 3G, or until you travel somewhere that does.


In my case, the vast majority of the time I'm within range of WiFi networks anyway, so the 3G issue doesn't matter to me.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:44:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 8:45:39 PM EST by 444]
This doesn't really add anything to the discussion, but there is only one thing holding me back from buying one: the fact that I can't use the phone with my current cell phone provider. I have to use AT&T.
I don't have anything against AT&T, I just don't want to switch carriers. I have had the same service since I had a brick phone, same number and all that. Don't want to change.

As far as the cost, it is very resonable. Every couple years I buy a new phone. I don't go for the "free" phone that is a piece of shit and requires me to sign a contract committing me to so many years of service. I simply pay a couple hundred dollars to buy the phone I want with no strings attached. I don't give a shit about the money. The current Iphone is about the same price as the last phone I bought. I figure, if I am going to spend that same money on some phone, it might as well be the current fad phone.
I need a new phone right now, but it won't be an Iphone because of the AT&T thing.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:46:15 PM EST
Nope.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 8:50:42 PM EST
I wouldn't get a dang thing that required me to be on AT&T's network- around here, you know when someone is calling you from an AT&T phone. I don't even have to beat around the bush, I just say "I can't understand you, you have an AT&T cell, huh?" And they say yes, all exasperated.

On a side note, why are they still called AT&T? I mean, who uses telegraphs, anymore?
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:02:06 PM EST
wait for something better
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:14:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By 444:
I have had the same service since I had a brick phone, same number and all that. Don't want to change.

You do know that you can have your number ported to the new service?
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:18:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 9:19:57 PM EST by Hemi-Cuda]
I've been Anti-Macintosh my entire life, and I still am.

My brother gave me an iPhone for my birthday.

I really got to say, it's a nifty tool to have.

I find that the internet is fast enough for any processing that I have to do. Takes me just a few seconds to load up anything on ARFCOM.

My first real experience was at the airport, surfing through porn while listening to Slayer.

My only complaint is that the microphone is sensitive, and is very loud sometimes to other people on the line.

But yeah, I enjoy it.

As far as waiting for something better, what's the point.

Everything you get will be superseded by another product in the near future, so what do you do? Use a Hewlett Packard computer from 1988, and drive a Ford Model T, just because in a few years a car better than those will come out than now?
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:21:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By JonasWright:


Wait for the Gphone



Those guys data mine everything. $20 says they will spy on EVERYTHING you do on their phone. Screw that.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:22:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:
I've been Anti-Macintosh my entire life, and I still am.

My brother gave me an iPhone for my birthday.

I really got to say, it's a nifty tool to have.

I find that the internet is fast enough for any processing that I have to do. Takes me just a few seconds to load up anything on ARFCOM.

My first real experience was at the airport, surfing through porn while listening to Slayer.

My only complaint is that the microphone is sensitive, and is very loud sometimes to other people on the line.

But yeah, I enjoy it.

As far as waiting for something better, what's the point.

Everything you get will be superseded by another product in the near future, so what do you do? Use a Hewlett Packard computer from 1988, and drive a Ford Model T, just because in a few years a car better than those will come out than now?


Have you had any problems with the overheating or easily scratched screen that I've heard of from people?
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:23:37 PM EST
get an HTC touch
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:23:52 PM EST
If the battery goes south, your screwed.

Im a windows person, so apple stuff doesnt thrill me.

Ill pass!
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:24:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Utah_Sniper:
Have you had any problems with the overheating or easily scratched screen that I've heard of from people?


Nope, the phone gets a little warm when you're on youtube for about 2 hours but it doesn't get hot.

As far as scratching, not at all. I had an idiot friend put out a God damn cigarette on my phone by accident because he was drunk. I keep it in my pocket with my keys as well, no scratching at all on the screen.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:25:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 9:26:24 PM EST by rykn0w]
if i paid that much for a goddamn phone it better be able to give me a blow job too.

+ fuck apple, i will never give them a cent.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:28:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By pv74:
Spend your money on another gun.


+1- and change the thread title to "what gun should i get instead of the iphone".
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:38:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By rykn0w:
if i paid that much for a goddamn phone it better be able to give me a blow job too.

+ fuck apple, i will never give them a cent.


I think it's strange that someone can have such hate for a company of all things, a company that likely hasn't done anything to them.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 9:59:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2007 10:01:07 PM EST by cluster]
get one of these



glock makes one also..


edit

here it is..
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 10:32:57 PM EST
so, the OP asked for feedback from people that had actually used one. If I count correctly, there are two of us in this thread (three if Phoebus has, this hasn't been explicitly stated). What is everyone else adding to this thread?

Jesus, you'd think Steve Jobs shot your dog.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 10:53:23 PM EST
I have used one, I received one as a bonus for a new consulting contract.

I haven't used it but maybe once or twice to surf when not on WiFi. Speed on WiFi is great.

Call quality is as good or better than any other cell I've had.

Media playing is great.

It is incredibly scratch-reistant.

The best part for me is the interface. As someone who's spent some time in interface design, I can't stand the useless crap other phones give us for interaction. The idea of an interface that is 100% flexible to the task at hand is great.

If I hadn't been given this one, now that the price drop had occurred I'd probably buy one. My wife's folks and my folks are on AT&T, so we use them anyway.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 10:57:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By cluster:
get one of these
ypcommando.com/images/nokia_gun.jpg


glock makes one also..


edit

here it is..
www.gadgetizer.com/images/nokiaM6750.jpg


Believe I'd get me one of them Glocks.
Link Posted: 9/7/2007 11:21:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By JonasWright:
To borrow from Maddox on the iphone hype.








Link Posted: 9/7/2007 11:45:54 PM EST
listen to Maddox
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 1:03:15 AM EST
DO NOT GET THE I-PHONE!!!! Watch this and I think you will have your answer.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 1:06:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By renesis:
DO NOT GET THE I-PHONE!!!! Watch this and I think you will have your answer.


That's a cell phone companies in general issue.

In addition, they've actually made changes to it now.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 1:49:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2007 1:53:19 AM EST by Bob1984]
I'm a Mac guy, and I don't think I'll be buying an iPhone. Primary reason being that I'm not a fan of AT&T. Secondary reason being the price of the thing vs. what it actually does.

As it is, I generally reserve my cell phone for emergency usage anyways. I have no need for the additional features offered by an iPhone. I just need a communication device, and that's what I have.

If I had an iPhone, it would spend a lot of time sitting at home, collecting dust. The iPhone is a bit larger than my current cell phone, and I like being able to drop my phone into a pocket without having to worry about the size of the thing.

I have no need or desire to be "connected" 24/7. If I want to do that, I'll just stay on the computer all day. I enjoy having the freedom to step out and away for a while without having to worry about people trying to track me down. So as you guys can guess, I'm not a regular cell phone user, because I don't want to be.

Link Posted: 9/8/2007 1:59:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2007 2:01:22 AM EST by repub18]
At its original price of over $500, I was completely turned off to the idea, but I now have the opportunity to get one for around $150. It gets more appealing everyday.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 2:15:35 AM EST
Next year's model's are already being prototyped... they look like they'll be worth the wait.

Link Posted: 9/8/2007 2:20:12 AM EST
If the iPod music and video features are important for you and also happen to need a phone, the iPhone is great.

If that isn't so important and you just want a phone and a good e-mail tool, get the Nokia Communicator.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 12:23:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By RyJones:
so, the OP asked for feedback from people that had actually used one. If I count correctly, there are two of us in this thread (three if Phoebus has, this hasn't been explicitly stated). What is everyone else adding to this thread?

Jesus, you'd think Steve Jobs shot your dog.


Amazing, it's it?
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 12:50:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By LouisianaCarry:
On a side note, why are they still called AT&T? I mean, who uses telegraphs, anymore?



Hey... we're stilling calling this country "America", aren't we?
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 12:54:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By RyJones:
snip.

I went to two different Apple stores on two different dates to sample pre-price cut Iphones. The Apple stores have functioning Iphones, along with other Apple products like Ipods and computers.

I'm not really impressed. I'm not a big fan of the whole touchscreen deal, and I found it tough to access stuff. For some reason, the demo models failed to show YouTube for example.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 1:10:48 PM EST
Ive had one for about a month, the problems that I've run in to are:

1) Cant use the touch screen with gloves (This sucks because I ride and not wearing gloves wont be an option come winter.

2) A little glitchy at first, but recent upgrades seem to have resolved these issues.

3) Headset does amplify some sounds making it uncomfortable for people on the other end (power equipment, gunshots, ect.)

Other than that, it does work as advertised and I havent regretted my purchase for one minute.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 2:50:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By 44Punk:
Ive had one for about a month, the problems that I've run in to are:

1) Cant use the touch screen with gloves (This sucks because I ride and not wearing gloves wont be an option come winter.

2) A little glitchy at first, but recent upgrades seem to have resolved these issues.

3) Headset does amplify some sounds making it uncomfortable for people on the other end (power equipment, gunshots, ect.)

Other than that, it does work as advertised and I havent regretted my purchase for one minute.


What kind of glitches were there?
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 2:53:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By 44Punk:
Ive had one for about a month, the problems that I've run in to are:

1) Cant use the touch screen with gloves (This sucks because I ride and not wearing gloves wont be an option come winter.

2) A little glitchy at first, but recent upgrades seem to have resolved these issues.

3) Headset does amplify some sounds making it uncomfortable for people on the other end (power equipment, gunshots, ect.)

Other than that, it does work as advertised and I havent regretted my purchase for one minute.


What kind of glitches were there?


Sometimes while browsing Safari, it would randomly close and take you back to the main desktop. After you press Safari again, it would reload the page. This was resolved in the last update though.

That's the only glitch I've noticed.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 4:37:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phoebus:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By 44Punk:
Ive had one for about a month, the problems that I've run in to are:

1) Cant use the touch screen with gloves (This sucks because I ride and not wearing gloves wont be an option come winter.

2) A little glitchy at first, but recent upgrades seem to have resolved these issues.

3) Headset does amplify some sounds making it uncomfortable for people on the other end (power equipment, gunshots, ect.)

Other than that, it does work as advertised and I havent regretted my purchase for one minute.


What kind of glitches were there?


Sometimes while browsing Safari, it would randomly close and take you back to the main desktop. After you press Safari again, it would reload the page. This was resolved in the last update though.

That's the only glitch I've noticed.


What kind of applications are you using on yours? Anything 3rd party?


Nope but it doesn't happen any more.


??? Are you saying you don't use any 3rd party applications on your iPhone? Or you don't use an applications at all? I'm confused


There are no 3rd party apps really at this time.


Hmm....damn......I guess you're right. I did a google search for iPhone apps and what pops up is stuff that you can access via the browser and use through the web. Does Apple have plans to release new widgets?
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 6:38:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Phoebus:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By 44Punk:
Ive had one for about a month, the problems that I've run in to are:

1) Cant use the touch screen with gloves (This sucks because I ride and not wearing gloves wont be an option come winter.

2) A little glitchy at first, but recent upgrades seem to have resolved these issues.

3) Headset does amplify some sounds making it uncomfortable for people on the other end (power equipment, gunshots, ect.)

Other than that, it does work as advertised and I havent regretted my purchase for one minute.


What kind of glitches were there?


Sometimes while browsing Safari, it would randomly close and take you back to the main desktop. After you press Safari again, it would reload the page. This was resolved in the last update though.

That's the only glitch I've noticed.


What kind of applications are you using on yours? Anything 3rd party?


Nope but it doesn't happen any more.


??? Are you saying you don't use any 3rd party applications on your iPhone? Or you don't use an applications at all? I'm confused


There are no 3rd party apps really at this time.


Hmm....damn......I guess you're right. I did a google search for iPhone apps and what pops up is stuff that you can access via the browser and use through the web. Does Apple have plans to release new widgets?


Apple will release new software, and may open up the platform to other vendors. However, they are encouraging the idea of iPhone-specific apps being written for the web platform, rather than having apps local to the phone.

It remains to be seen which direction they ultimately go with it. I think the big issue for Jobs right now is that Apple is very much about the total user experience, and most phone apps (and their interfaces) just straight-up suck. That makes Jobs leery to relinquish control over the platform. I can definitely see Apple releasing to ADC members an iPhone-specific dev kit with frameworks and guidelines, but I doubt they will open it up to the latest crappy Java port of Pacman.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 7:14:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phoebus:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Phoebus:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By 44Punk:
Ive had one for about a month, the problems that I've run in to are:

1) Cant use the touch screen with gloves (This sucks because I ride and not wearing gloves wont be an option come winter.

2) A little glitchy at first, but recent upgrades seem to have resolved these issues.

3) Headset does amplify some sounds making it uncomfortable for people on the other end (power equipment, gunshots, ect.)

Other than that, it does work as advertised and I havent regretted my purchase for one minute.


What kind of glitches were there?


Sometimes while browsing Safari, it would randomly close and take you back to the main desktop. After you press Safari again, it would reload the page. This was resolved in the last update though.

That's the only glitch I've noticed.


What kind of applications are you using on yours? Anything 3rd party?


Nope but it doesn't happen any more.


??? Are you saying you don't use any 3rd party applications on your iPhone? Or you don't use an applications at all? I'm confused


There are no 3rd party apps really at this time.


Hmm....damn......I guess you're right. I did a google search for iPhone apps and what pops up is stuff that you can access via the browser and use through the web. Does Apple have plans to release new widgets?


Apple will release new software, and may open up the platform to other vendors. However, they are encouraging the idea of iPhone-specific apps being written for the web platform, rather than having apps local to the phone.

It remains to be seen which direction they ultimately go with it. I think the big issue for Jobs right now is that Apple is very much about the total user experience, and most phone apps (and their interfaces) just straight-up suck. That makes Jobs leery to relinquish control over the platform. I can definitely see Apple releasing to ADC members an iPhone-specific dev kit with frameworks and guidelines, but I doubt they will open it up to the latest crappy Java port of Pacman.


I suppose with the unlimited internet of the plans AT&T is offering, they could simply force them to do it on a web-only basis.

As a side question: if one has less bars of service, does the speed of the network for internet drop? Or does the latency simply take a hit?
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