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Posted: 12/12/2013 10:28:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 10:38:08 PM EST by Mikebiker]
http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-guns-sold-illegally-online-mayors-group-234535495.html

Attacking Armslist

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Thousands of guns are being offered for sale illegally by unlicensed firearms dealers on a single website in the United States, according to a report released on Thursday by Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

The group, founded and largely funded by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, examined sales on Armslist.com, a major gun-trading website that enables sales in all 50 states, over an eight-week period this year.

Nearly a third of the ads posted were from "high-volume" sellers who lacked the federal license required of individuals who regularly sell firearms.


http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-guns-sold-illegally-online-mayors-group-234535495.html
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 10:29:59 PM EST
FMB
FBHO
FJB
FEH
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 10:35:38 PM EST
Why can't he get cancer already?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:12:57 PM EST
Obvious hit piece is obvious.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:14:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JoshtheCarGuy:
Why can't he get cancer already?
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Because only the good die young.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:19:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 12:07:39 AM EST
Has Bloomberg disarmed his body guards yet to set the example?

If not his is a fucking hypocrite and needs to just STFU.

That should be our only dialog to him from here on out...same with Feinswine.

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 12:10:46 AM EST
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i think so,That should be our only dialog to him from here on out...same with Feinswine.thankshttp://goo.gl/A8rhF1
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 12:13:59 AM EST
Bloomberg does not do these things for the informed citizen. He puts out these reports for the low information citizen. All they will remember is the headline and believe it is true.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 12:45:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NinerMaine:
Bloomberg does not do these things for the informed citizen. He puts out these reports for the low information citizen. All they will remember is the headline and believe it is true.
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this
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:08:54 AM EST
How does he know that these 'high-volume' dealers aren't licensed?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:11:01 AM EST
Fuck Bloomberg
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:12:52 AM EST
And how does he know which ads are from the same person? Matching toes in pictures?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:14:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By klutz347:
Fuck Bloomberg
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It's not that he's at it again, he's not going to stop until one of the thugs in his city shoots him with one of their illegal handguns that his laws don't effect.

btw, nice avatar. Loved the original.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:18:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NinerMaine:
Bloomberg does not do these things for the informed citizen. He puts out these reports for the low information citizen. All they will remember is the headline and believe it is true.
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And this is the same reason the media runs the story. Low info voter soundbites to remember the name at the ballot box

Wash, rinse, repeat.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:26:08 AM EST
We can at this too.

"New exclusive report on the Mayors against guns shows massive money laundering scheme in place tied to gun control. "
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:29:41 AM EST
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Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:44:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By teeli:

this
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Originally Posted By teeli:
Originally Posted By NinerMaine:
Bloomberg does not do these things for the informed citizen. He puts out these reports for the low information citizen. All they will remember is the headline and believe it is true.

this

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 1:51:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By apierce918:
And how does he know which ads are from the same person? Matching toes in pictures?
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And which ads resulted in a sale?

How much money did he waste on tracking armslist so closely?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 2:25:32 AM EST
How I found out about AL was because of a story just like this about two years ago.

Thanks Mike!
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 2:30:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GoCart-Mozart:
How I found out about AL was because of a story just like this about two years ago.

Thanks Mike!
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That Facebook thing is becoming a popular gun selling venue too from what I understand. I guess he will go after that next.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 2:32:29 AM EST
I check armslist several times a day and I do see people with 5 or 6 recent listings and guns that were a good deal reposted for a much higher price. That said I also sell a lot through there because if I want to try something new I have to sell something because I dont have a bunch of money.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 2:38:58 AM EST
Bloomberg has one objective, and its not gun control...............it's control, period..............because he "thinks" he knows what is best for all Americans, and thinks he should have the power to regulate the lives of Americans the way he sees fit. Why people give him an opening is beyond me
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 2:40:37 AM EST
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Indeed
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 2:48:27 AM EST
What is considered 'high volume'?

Is there a limitation on the number of private sales over a given period of time? No?

Then FOAD Bloomberg

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:05:38 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
Bloomberg has one objective, and its not gun control...............it's control, period..............because he "thinks" he knows what is best for all Americans, and thinks he should have the power to regulate the lives of Americans the way he sees fit. Why people give him an opening is beyond me
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He must have been a navy seal

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:10:55 AM EST
Too bad he's not as concerned about the price of diesel.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:11:52 AM EST
He will never stop, it will get worse when he leaves office.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:14:36 AM EST
paging Mr. Reaper.

paging Mr. Reaper.

Will the Grim Reaper please pick up the nearest house phone for an important call.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:20:21 AM EST
What constitutes "high volume"?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:35:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:41:44 AM EST
I can only hope that his credibility has been sufficiently damaged through things like his war on high capacity soft drinks that most people see this and just ignore it.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:51:28 AM EST
If they are in violation of the current laws for having a FFL, then why not go arrest them under those laws. Seems dumb to even bring it up, and thus bring attention to the fact that you are "on to them."
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:54:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CKxx:
If they are in violation of the current laws for having a FFL, then why not go arrest them under those laws. Seems dumb to even bring it up, and thus bring attention to the fact that you are "on to them."
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They want to eliminate FTF transactions in all states ( at least the ones remaining where it is still legal to do so).
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:55:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Buzz69:
He will never stop, it will get worse when he leaves office.
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I won't be surprised is we see a Hilary/Bloomberg or Bloomberg/Hillary ticket.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:55:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ncthorn1623:
I can only hope that his credibility has been sufficiently damaged through things like his war on high capacity soft drinks that most people see this and just ignore it.
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I think only a lunatic would stake their career on following this guy's lead. He should be anathema to the wiser of the scumbag politicians.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 3:56:52 AM EST
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They want to eliminate FTF transactions in all states ( at least the ones remaining where it is still legal to do so).
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Originally Posted By TheGunCollector:
Originally Posted By CKxx:
If they are in violation of the current laws for having a FFL, then why not go arrest them under those laws. Seems dumb to even bring it up, and thus bring attention to the fact that you are "on to them."


They want to eliminate FTF transactions in all states ( at least the ones remaining where it is still legal to do so).


This, and I expect it happen nationally before I take my dirt nap as it is the low hanging fruit.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 4:04:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
What constitutes "high volume"?
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1 sale
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:12:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NinerMaine:
Bloomberg does not do these things for the informed citizen. He puts out these reports for the low information citizen. All they will remember is the headline and believe it is true.
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Actually, I think he is trying to give the BATFE a nudge toward hammering online sales.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:15:04 AM EST
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This.

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:15:58 AM EST
FTF sales are legal in this state. He can step in front of a subway.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:17:58 AM EST
He isnt Tier One enough to be an Easter Seal

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He must have been a navy seal

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Originally Posted By cyclone:
Bloomberg has one objective, and its not gun control...............it's control, period..............because he "thinks" he knows what is best for all Americans, and thinks he should have the power to regulate the lives of Americans the way he sees fit. Why people give him an opening is beyond me


He must have been a navy seal


Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:19:36 AM EST
Of course, they ignore the stuff like the page TERMS OF USE

I am 18 years of age or older.
I understand that ARMSLIST DOES NOT become involved in transactions between parties and does not certify, investigate, or in any way guarantee the legal capacity of any party to transact.
I am responsible for obeying all applicable enforcement mechanisms, including, but not limited to federal, state, municipal, and tribal statutes, rules, regulations, ordinances, and judicial decisions, including compliance with all applicable licensing requirements.
I will not use Armslist.com for any illegal purpose.

And if you click on 'Do Not Agree" it tosses you to Google.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:20:51 AM EST
Bloomberg is a liar, and he's ugly.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:22:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By teeli:

It's not that he's at it again, he's not going to stop until one of the thugs in his city shoots him with one of their illegal handguns that his laws don't effect.

btw, nice avatar. Loved the original.
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Originally Posted By teeli:
Originally Posted By klutz347:
Fuck Bloomberg

It's not that he's at it again, he's not going to stop until one of the thugs in his city shoots him with one of their illegal handguns that his laws don't effect.

btw, nice avatar. Loved the original.


What's that movie with Tupac and Janet Jackson?

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Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:32:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/13/2013 5:32:35 AM EST by Mikhail_86]
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Originally Posted By Et2ss:
What is considered 'high volume'?

Is there a limitation on the number of private sales over a given period of time? No?

Then FOAD Bloomberg

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I dont believe there is a physical limit, but ATF can build a case on high volume FTF sales if they can prove you're only buying and reselling for profit. This constitutes that you are "in the business of selling firearms" and must have an FFL in their eyes.

When I worked in an FFL we did have ATF agents come in and cehck on several people would would transfer in multiple's of the same guns that was obvious they were reselling. Guy who transferred in 5 PS90's in the same time comes to mind, mostly because he is in prison now for dealing without a liscense.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:44:32 AM EST
He loves the cock.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:02:26 AM EST
So if I buy lots of guns and sell them at a loss, then I am a dealer?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:04:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

I dont believe there is a physical limit, but ATF can build a case on high volume FTF sales if they can prove you're only buying and reselling for profit. This constitutes that you are "in the business of selling firearms" and must have an FFL in their eyes.

When I worked in an FFL we did have ATF agents come in and cehck on several people would would transfer in multiple's of the same guns that was obvious they were reselling. Guy who transferred in 5 PS90's in the same time comes to mind, mostly because he is in prison now for dealing without a liscense.
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By Et2ss:
What is considered 'high volume'?

Is there a limitation on the number of private sales over a given period of time? No?

Then FOAD Bloomberg


I dont believe there is a physical limit, but ATF can build a case on high volume FTF sales if they can prove you're only buying and reselling for profit. This constitutes that you are "in the business of selling firearms" and must have an FFL in their eyes.

When I worked in an FFL we did have ATF agents come in and cehck on several people would would transfer in multiple's of the same guns that was obvious they were reselling. Guy who transferred in 5 PS90's in the same time comes to mind, mostly because he is in prison now for dealing without a liscense.


i thought the limit was 12 a year.. or something of the sort..
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Originally Posted By gunham:
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If you intent when buying them was to immediately post them for sale then probably.
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