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Posted: 8/13/2007 8:48:53 PM EDT
So I come home from the grocery store tonight and I saw this flyer outside my apartment (we have special clips outside our doors for handbills).




Dear Resident,

We will be out August 14th, 15th & 16th doing our annual interior inspections. We will have to walk and inspect ever unit on the property. This is a mandatory walk and your unit will be inspected on one of these days.

Thank you for your help in advance,

The Management


SHIT!!!

Now I need to figure out what I'm going to do with 25,000 rounds of ammo and I need to figure it out and do it by tomorrow morning. Otherwise I might have to answer some uncomfortable questions.

Oh, and if I come up missing over the next couple of days, and you see a thread about an arsenal being discovered then don't bother doing a headcount, just call me a lawyer!!!

Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:51:10 PM EDT
Anything in your rental agreement about firearms or ammo?

What am I saying? They would nail you for "flammable materials"
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:51:14 PM EDT
where the hell is your ammo? on the roof?
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:53:27 PM EDT
Where the heck do you live? China? The landlord can't roam around your place.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:54:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Anything in your rental agreement about firearms or ammo?

What am I saying? They would nail you for "flammable materials"


No, but there was that guy a couple months ago who had the plumber come into his apartment and call the cops because the plumber saw a couple rifles and 500 rounds of ammo. They were making up all kinds of shit about the guy traveling to the middle east and having kiddie porn and all. I'm liable to wind up in Gitmo if they see how much ammo I have.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:54:21 PM EDT
put it in the car man
stash everything in the car, its your property
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:54:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By junker46:
where the hell is your ammo? on the roof?


These are "interior inspections". That means they want to come INSIDE.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:56:35 PM EDT
Usually, when people start talking about buying a condo or townhouse these days, I tell 'em to wait, that now isn't the time, that prices have yet to come down.

In this case, I'd make an exception. As bad as an HOA could be, none of them can announce that they're going to walk through your home "inspecting" it.

Personally, I owuldn't do dick about the 25,000 rounds of ammo. Let 'em wonder.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:00:16 PM EDT
25,000? I don't know what you need more... therapy or a forklift.

Seriously, what kind of ammo? Do you reload for a club or something?

Take as much as you can to a friends house. Put as much as you can in your car. Jam as much as you can in dresser-drawers. Spread a layer out between the matress and the box spring. Hide as much as you can behind food on the shelves. Send all the .45acp and 9mm Luger (and 8mm Mauser) to me. Put a bunch in generic boxes, like apple boxes and shit, and mark the boxes "Record collection."
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:01:39 PM EDT
Throw a blanket over your ammo stash. Tell your property manager you want to be there for this inspection. Follow them around during the inspection.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:03:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
So I come home from the grocery store tonight and I saw this flyer outside my apartment (we have special clips outside our doors for handbills).




Dear Resident,

We will be out August 14th, 15th & 16th doing our annual interior inspections. We will have to walk and inspect ever unit on the property. This is a mandatory walk and your unit will be inspected on one of these days.

Thank you for your help in advance,

The Management


SHIT!!!

Now I need to figure out what I'm going to do with 25,000 rounds of ammo and I need to figure it out and do it by tomorrow morning. Otherwise I might have to answer some uncomfortable questions.

Oh, and if I come up missing over the next couple of days, and you see a thread about an arsenal being discovered then don't bother doing a headcount, just call me a lawyer!!!




Did you agree to warrantless inspections when you signed the lease?
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:04:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By oneday:
25,000? I don't know what you need more... therapy or a forklift.


25,000 is hardly a lot.

I try and keep a minimum of 10,000 for each caliber.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:06:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
So I come home from the grocery store tonight and I saw this flyer outside my apartment (we have special clips outside our doors for handbills).




Dear Resident,

We will be out August 14th, 15th & 16th doing our annual interior inspections. We will have to walk and inspect ever unit on the property. This is a mandatory walk and your unit will be inspected on one of these days.

Thank you for your help in advance,

The Management


SHIT!!!

Now I need to figure out what I'm going to do with 25,000 rounds of ammo and I need to figure it out and do it by tomorrow morning. Otherwise I might have to answer some uncomfortable questions.

Oh, and if I come up missing over the next couple of days, and you see a thread about an arsenal being discovered then don't bother doing a headcount, just call me a lawyer!!!




Did you agree to warrantless inspections when you signed the lease?


I'll have to find the actual lease, but I know that they have the right to come in with written notice for maintenence realated activites, like to let in an exterminator or to fix a broken pipe.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:07:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By oneday:
25,000? I don't know what you need more... therapy or a forklift.



Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:07:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By oneday:
25,000? I don't know what you need more... therapy or a forklift.


25,000 is hardly a lot.

I try and keep a minimum of 10,000 for each caliber.


No, but it's more than the sheeple are comfortable with.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:08:29 PM EDT
I wouldnt be worried, if there is nothing in your contract banning ammo or firearms then I wouldn't worry. I would make an ammo fort out of it and see what the inspector says.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:09:17 PM EDT
There is no way on earth I'd ever allow my landlord or any maintenance people in my home without me being present. Damn the man! Plus, the dog would make them wet the pants if they even tried to get in the door. WTF is an "interior inspection?"
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:11:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By oneday:
25,000? I don't know what you need more... therapy or a forklift.


25,000 is hardly a lot.

I try and keep a minimum of 10,000 for each caliber.


No, but it's more than the sheeple are comfortable with.


$29.99

That's the price of Uhaul's smallest truck, per day.

Rent one.

Get a couple ARFCOM brothers to help you move the stuff. Use cardboard boxes from McDonalds, labeled "books"

I did this once a year in Boulder, Colorado while I was in Law school, although I only had 5000 rounds or so, so I could fit mine in the trunk.



Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:11:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By junker46:
where the hell is your ammo? on the roof?


These are "interior inspections". That means they want to come INSIDE.


sorry, sorry. i read that as 'external.' big tarp with 'snakes' on it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:13:37 PM EDT
Just toss a camouflage sheet over it. Problem solved. (or worsened)
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:17:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By oneday:
25,000? I don't know what you need more... therapy or a forklift.


25,000 is hardly a lot.

I try and keep a minimum of 10,000 for each caliber.


No, but it's more than the sheeple are comfortable with.


$29.99

That's the price of Uhaul's smallest truck, per day.

Rent one.

Get a couple ARFCOM brothers to help you move the stuff. Use cardboard boxes from McDonalds, labeled "books"

I did this once a year in Boulder, Colorado while I was in Law school, although I only had 5000 rounds or so, so I could fit mine in the trunk.






I think this is probably the best option so far. cheap, and if anyone asks about it parked in your driveway, just tell them you are helping a friend move.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:17:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2007 9:18:34 PM EDT by Airwolf]

Originally Posted By My_Aim:
Throw a blanket over your ammo stash. Tell your property manager you want to be there for this inspection. Follow them around during the inspection.


Best advice so far.

They ask what it is, it's "books and other crap".

ETA: The u-haul idea sounds like a winner too.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:18:02 PM EDT
Probably looking for leaks and structure problems. Stuff them in the closets discreetly, and dont tell me you can't disguise it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:22:28 PM EDT
Damn some of you guys man!


You must be single. If I was single I'd live in a two room trailer, and I'd reinforce the walls with stacks and stacks of full ammo cans.


...ahhh...a guy can only dream...
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:23:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2007 9:41:08 PM EDT by offctr]
camoflage it.
behind cannned goods in cabinets"front"all the cans and boxes and put some behind it. Lay it on top of your mattress in an even layer and throw 3-4 blankets/comforters over it behind books on bookshelves. Turn over your sofa and put some on the ground underneath the empty part in the middle of most sofas. Underneath a pile of laundry in the laundry room. Etc Above all make sure your place is neat and tidy on the day of, they are looking for structural and mechanical problems as well as people who are trashing the place and not taking care of pets -taking out trash etc. if your palce is neat and tidy they will be in and out pretty fast a cusory walk through of each room and maybe a quick closet peek. Take a large dell computer monitor box place it in a closet load it up with ammo -seal it and place shoes and stuff on it like its been there forever, like you are keeping it to move a monitor in --that sort of thing. If anyone pushes on it or remarks on its weight --"yeah that one was bad when I got it dell set a new on and I meant to ship that back but..." stuff like that. High in that back on closet shelves with umbrellas and "closet" stuff in front of it. back of dresser drawers with clothes left in front and on top of ammo (--you need some clothes for the "laundry" pile andyway) I bet I could hide 500000 rounds in your apartment givena few hours. it wouldnt stand a full on search but the casual observer would never see it unless they were pokin through my underwear drawer.

If you can find out when speficlly they are comming arrange to be there. show up at the door in a robe and PJ's --look sick tell them "no problem" but you hope its not going to take long cause you are ill and feel like s--t--need to get back to bed etc.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:26:09 PM EDT
Where I live, the law is to give
the tenant 24 hour notice before entering.

I had an evaluation for property value
in my duplex not too long ago.
Closets were not looked into,but
not saying these guys won't.

Is it in ammo cans?
Just get some boxes.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:28:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2007 9:28:52 PM EDT by MillerSHO]
O the irony.

He's got ammo by the pallet load but no self owned property to put it in.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:32:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2Hessians:
Where I live, the law is to give
the tenant 24 hour notice before entering.

I had an evaluation for property value
in my duplex not too long ago.
Closets were not looked into,but
not saying these guys won't.

Is it in ammo cans?
Just get some boxes.


Best strategy is to either get it out or store it in a safe inside, locked.

Will it fit in one of those $80 stack on safes? If so, lock it.

If you try to hide it and the maintenance guy gets wise, his "tip" call plus the "hidden" nature is probably going to get a warrant sworn out for probable cause.

Not saying its right, just saying it is.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:36:38 PM EDT
turn it into furniture. weird, blocky furniture.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:39:06 PM EDT
Make an ammo fort.Or put a bunch of sex toys on top of it.They will get embarrassed and leave...
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:48:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2007 9:50:17 PM EDT by BatcaveSouth]
If you have time, you can get a tall, four drawer file cabinet with a lock. Get two, they're cheap. Just don't label the drawers by caliber. he
I also made it clear where ever I was that nobody was allowed inside without me being there. If its a multi-unit complex, especially, they usually keep all the keys on a board for anyone to grab, make copies, etc. Not on my watch.

ETA: I've never heard of yearly inside inspections. I'd move.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:48:31 PM EDT
Put it in a huge stack behind the 1919 pointed at the door. Just tell them to come on in. Then watch them pee themselves.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:48:48 PM EDT
Stuff as much as you can under the bed, and lay a blanket over it. Or, go and get some of those plastic containers they sell at walmart, and fill them full, and stuff under bed.

As someone else said, put it under the comforter to your bed, and lay some clothes/blankets over it.

They probably won't check everything, I know they don't here in my apartment(and we are not supposed to have guns), they just check stuff like smoke detectors, blinds, any obvious messed up stuff. Shouldn't be anything to worry about.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:49:11 PM EDT
Hide the ammo in the closet behind boxes full of old magazines like comic books, Pop Mechanics etc. Tell the manager if your collection of priceless comic book collection is touched, you will have their asses.

Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:56:57 PM EDT
Alright, the ammo is all stashed away. They don't have any reason to be going through any of the places where I put it either. Also, since I work from home I get to be here whenever they come through.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:57:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
O the irony.

He's got ammo by the pallet load but no self owned property to put it in.


Actually, I do own a house. I just don't live in it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:58:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By junker46:
turn it into furniture. weird, blocky furniture.



That's what I was thinking.

Hide it in plain sight.

Make a stack about 22 inches high x 36 inches wide x 5 or 6 feet long, throw a blanket over the top, put some books, tv remote, an empty beer can etc on top. Do the same on both ends of your sofa (end tables).

At the foot of your bed, etc.

As long as you are there watching them, you should be fine.

Gene
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:00:14 PM EDT
You can stash it at my place, for a nominal fee of course...
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:20:34 PM EDT
If you have a dryer, you could have stuffed a bunch in there, and tossed some clothes on top.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:28:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
O the irony.

He's got ammo by the pallet load but no self owned property to put it in.


Actually, I do own a house. I just don't live in it.



If I was you I'd store a majority of it over there now I that you know they have these "inspections".

Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:35:58 PM EDT
Don't hide it. Dump about 4000 rounds loose on the bed, dresser, and floor. Fill 2 or 3 kitchen drawers up with the largest calibers you have, and leave them partially open

Oh, and splash a gallon of fake "Karo syrup and red food color" blood all over the bathroom and tub. Smear some on your wife beater for effect while your at it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:38:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By My_Aim:
Where the heck do you live? China? The landlord can't roam around your place.


Actually, yes, they can. Part of just about EVERY rental agreement known to man. Law allows them the right to enter your apartment for annual and/or 'safety & health concern' inspections as long as they provide written, 24 or 48 hour notice. At least in the majority of states.

They can't just show up any old time, but rental laws DO include this. You MUST have been notified though, so if you never got the notice legally they can't enter. Of course, it's hard to get away with that as they'll generally just send you another one, registered mail, etc.

Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:42:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:

Originally Posted By My_Aim:
Throw a blanket over your ammo stash. Tell your property manager you want to be there for this inspection. Follow them around during the inspection.


Best advice so far.

They ask what it is, it's "books and other crap".

ETA: The u-haul idea sounds like a winner too.


Hell yeah ! Toss a buncha cases in the middle of the room, lay a sheet of plywood or an old door on top and cover it with a sheet/tablecloth. Tell em it's your poor ass ghetto dining room table !

Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:47:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
O the irony.

He's got ammo by the pallet load but no self owned property to put it in.


Actually, I do own a house. I just don't live in it.


well then...

isn't that your answer?
Unless you have the house rented and want to keep the ammo on the DL, away from curious tenants.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:57:47 PM EDT
Get a few cardboard boxes one large or a few smaller ones..Tape them up once loaded..
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:59:57 PM EDT
Well, now that you have it stashed, what I do is keep my ammo in the corner and throw my dirty clothes over it. When my landlord or maintenance idiot comes over all they see is a pile of dirty clothes. Oh and I try to leave some undies with skidmarks showing on top to keep them from snooping
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:07:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By goodoleboy:
Get a few cardboard boxes one large or a few smaller ones..Tape them up once loaded..



+1

Nobody is going to question you on what's in a cardboard box. This isn't a shakedown for contraband.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:18:35 PM EDT
answer the door naked holding a dead chicken.

bet they don't come in or come back
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:43:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mrrick:
answer the door naked holding a dead chicken GOOSE.

bet they don't come in or come back


Fixed it for ya.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:47:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoppy:

Originally Posted By goodoleboy:
Get a few cardboard boxes one large or a few smaller ones..Tape them up once loaded..



+1

Nobody is going to question you on what's in a cardboard box. This isn't a shakedown for contraband.


Thats all you gotta do.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 12:47:59 AM EDT
I vote ammo fort..

My landlord has been over here a few times to fix some misc issues. He has made mention of my phone booth sized gun safe sitting in the living room and the ammo crates in the closet.

His only question (while pointing at the safe). "What kind of cool toys live in there?" Next time he comes over, I might make an ammo fort.

Retired Marine, nice guy and fellow tradesman. Never had a problem with him.
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