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Posted: 9/30/2011 12:04:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 12:05:50 PM EST by Rival14]
Went to test drive today as I want one for a summer fun vehicle next year.

Sticker for the Non Sema version Boss $42K + $8k markup
Sticker for the Sema version $48K + $40K markup.

Jesus H Christ on a crutch, who the fuck marks vehicles up that much? and where does that markup go anyway? The dealer?
Premium I get, 8-40K FFFUUUUUUUU unreal!!!
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:07:06 PM EST
must be nice to have thoese problems..
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:07:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 12:08:01 PM EST by www-glock19-com]
not uncommon on new hard to get shit
it goes right into the dealership owner's pocket

its not new when the RX7 came to the states in 79 dealers were charging 2X sticker
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:08:03 PM EST
Wow that's crazy! I run a Ford Dealership and I sold my Laguna Seca for 8g over sticker...... That's fair for a car that they only are going to build 850 of..... I can't wait to see it at a Meecum Aution in 25 years!
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:08:31 PM EST
Get a Vette.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:08:59 PM EST
They are retiring the retro look and redesigning it for next year's model. Might want to hold off and see if you like the new body style more.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:09:27 PM EST
I'm surprised you could test drive it. There's a huge dealer by me in an upscale area and they only got one this year, and it was pre sold long before it got on the lot.

Lots of demand for them, they're a sweet car. I'm kinda surprised Ford's letting dealerships mark them up that much though, it looks bad.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:09:52 PM EST
Buddy of mine has a 302.

He loves it.

I don't know what he paid but I'm sure it was north of 40K.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:09:54 PM EST
The new 302's have a wait list still in some places.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:10:07 PM EST
I agree....The sales guys looks at me and says " well its negociable ". i said sure, throw in a decently loaded GT for 37 and we'll have a deal.


Originally Posted By bbohman:
Wow that's crazy! I run a Ford Dealership and I sold my Laguna Seca for 8g over sticker...... That's fair for a car that they only are going to build 850 of..... I can't wait to see it at a Meecum Aution in 25 years!


Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:10:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 12:11:45 PM EST by 6winchester2]
Originally Posted By Stlrain0341:
I'm surprised you could test drive it. There's a huge dealer by me in an upscale area and they only got one this year, and it was pre sold long before it got on the lot.

Lots of demand for them, they're a sweet car. I'm kinda surprised Ford's letting dealerships mark them up that much though, it looks bad.


That's how my buddy got his.

He bought their allocation - about three months before they even got it on the lot.

And they were only allocated ONE.

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:10:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 12:13:04 PM EST by AZFats]
When I was a little kid back in the late 60s the Boss Hoss Mustang was the coolest Hot Wheel in existence. You could only get it from an order form on a box of Cheerios.

CSB fer sure
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:11:20 PM EST
Not it, but one they had. Ran my credit and they got really friendly when it came back at 825.


Originally Posted By Stlrain0341:
I'm surprised you could test drive it. There's a huge dealer by me in an upscale area and they only got one this year, and it was pre sold long before it got on the lot.

Lots of demand for them, they're a sweet car. I'm kinda surprised Ford's letting dealerships mark them up that much though, it looks bad.


Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:15:00 PM EST
Damn, at that price you're getting into corvette territory.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:17:54 PM EST
You can go the ebay route i see. No markup there it seems.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:18:34 PM EST
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:22:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 12:22:51 PM EST by rfm05]

Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang

$50k pricetag, and likely to have the same ridiculous dealer mark ups as the 302.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:24:17 PM EST
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang


Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:27:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang



I bet that even with all of the extra HP it isnt faster than the Boss. I have a 2010 Mustang GT, rated at 315HP. My car has Magnaflow Catback exhaust with 4" tips, JLT Intake and its tuned to a 91 octane performance tune. I have no issues beating SS Camaros and they are rated at 426HP. Now the ZR1 on the other hand.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:28:16 PM EST
When i was working on getting a 2011 Ford Raptor they had a 8K mark up on it... the sales guy even said that all the raptor has a 8+K mark up...
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:28:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 12:29:25 PM EST by tyman]
2011+ GT500 > *
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:29:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:31:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
302? What is that, some kind of small Euro 4-banger?



Its the new Capri
hear you liked those
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:33:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By SISUltra:
Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang



I bet that even with all of the extra HP it isnt faster than the Boss. I have a 2010 Mustang GT, rated at 315HP. My car has Magnaflow Catback exhaust with 4" tips, JLT Intake and its tuned to a 91 octane performance tune. I have no issues beating SS Camaros and they are rated at 426HP. Now the ZR1 on the other hand.


1. The Camaro weighs over 300# more
2. They were probably shitty drivers

The new Coyote 5.0's are running the same times as the Camaro SS are stock and stock.....and the new Coyote has 412hp.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:38:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:43:52 PM EST
Always going to be a "Market Value Adjustment" on new low production cars.

The first year the 350Z came out we were selling everyone we could get our hands for 10K+ over sticker.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:48:26 PM EST
Got to tool around in this one early this month:

http://s385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/ksmedman/ElijahShelbyGT500.jpg

More horses, more money...
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:50:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.


Kinda hard to drive a Gixxer with a passenger in a downpour.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:53:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.


Kinda hard to drive a Gixxer with a passenger in a downpour.


That's what the used, four-door sedan is for.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:54:43 PM EST
any GM v8 > ford 302
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:54:49 PM EST
I will never be the chump that buys new again. Once and done.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:23:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By staringback05:
any GM v8 > ford 302

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:28:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang

GT500 makes 550, is lighter, and I guarantee will handle better much, much better.

The Boss302 wouldn't take it in the 1/4, but would kill it on the track.


Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:30:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.


Kinda hard to drive a Gixxer with a passenger in a downpour.


That's what the used, four-door sedan is for.


Did someone say "four door sedan"?

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:31:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 1:32:24 PM EST by RedlinedRS]
Originally Posted By dardalee:
Got to tool around in this one early this month:

http://s385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/ksmedman/ElijahShelbyGT500.jpg

More horses, more money...


Blacktop was pretty fun, I had fun in the Raptor
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:34:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 1:49:55 PM EST by WildApple]


Why not just get one of these?



http://www.roushperformance.com/2012-mustang-hyper-series.shtml

The Hyper-Series RS3 is covered by a 3-year/36,000-mile warranty


Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:34:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By Furyataurus:
Get a Vette.


Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:35:05 PM EST
I always enjoy the irony of bouncing into these threads after reading another "the economy is collapsing, nobody can afford to eat" thread.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:38:50 PM EST
unfortunately no matter how much they charge for the 302........ it's still a 4 letter F word
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:44:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 1:45:04 PM EST by tyman]
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.


Kinda hard to drive a Gixxer with a passenger in a downpour.


That's what the used, four-door sedan is for.


Not many newer cheap, used sedans run 12 second quarter miles stock or near stock.

Nor do sedans have 2 doors.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:45:55 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:52:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By staringback05:
any GM v8 LSX > ford 302



Fixed.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:29:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:05:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 9:06:11 PM EST by www-glock19-com]

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
302? What is that, some kind of small Euro 4-banger?



Its the new Capri
hear you liked those


My Capri was a mighty (by Euro standards) V6.

A whole 2.3 litres!

thought those had cologne 2.8L V-6s like Mustang IIs and Bronco IIs

the 2.3 was the 4 banger
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:13:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By WildApple:


Why not just get one of these?



http://www.roushperformance.com/2012-mustang-hyper-series.shtml

The Hyper-Series RS3 is covered by a 3-year/36,000-mile warranty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jABaOO3ZInM


This.

I think they even look better than the GT 500.

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:18:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By WildApple:


Why not just get one of these?



http://www.roushperformance.com/2012-mustang-hyper-series.shtml

The Hyper-Series RS3 is covered by a 3-year/36,000-mile warranty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jABaOO3ZInM

This is the correct answer.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:39:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 9:40:18 PM EST by dugedug]

Originally Posted By Furyataurus:
Get a Vette.


Just like Barbie!
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:41:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By staringback05:
any GM v8 > ford 302


302 > 305
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:43:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 9:45:18 PM EST by dugedug]

Originally Posted By Vicinity:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.


Kinda hard to drive a Gixxer with a passenger in a downpour.


That's what the used, four-door sedan is for.


Did someone say "four door sedan"?

http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/1044/639/623/pontiacg8.jpg


Nice Vauxhall.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:46:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By dugedug:

Originally Posted By Vicinity:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.


Kinda hard to drive a Gixxer with a passenger in a downpour.


That's what the used, four-door sedan is for.


Did someone say "four door sedan"?

http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/1044/639/623/pontiacg8.jpg


Nice Vauxhall.

Holden Commodore

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:49:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 9:51:28 PM EST by dugedug]

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By dugedug:

Originally Posted By Vicinity:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By Rival14:
I guarantee you that car will not leave a dealer lot for less than $75K for a very very long time


Originally Posted By somiskid:
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Makes 580 Horsepower

Stomps all over that crustang




And a Gixxer would be faster than either, and significantly less expensive.


Kinda hard to drive a Gixxer with a passenger in a downpour.


That's what the used, four-door sedan is for.


Did someone say "four door sedan"?

http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/1044/639/623/pontiacg8.jpg


Nice Vauxhall.

Holden Commodore



Close enough. Both are fugly.
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