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Posted: 11/26/2014 3:20:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/1/2014 3:54:36 PM EST by fish223]
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 3:31:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/26/2014 3:32:14 PM EST by O_DubhGhaill]
The "Fudd gun" might not be legal here either, depending on its factory configuration.  We are in HELL.  Happy Thanksgiving.
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 3:34:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By O_DubhGhaill:
The "Fudd gun" might not be legal here either, depending on its factory configuration.  We are in HELL.  Happy Thanksgiving.
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A ruger 10/22 with a thumb hole stock is not welcome here.  Please please PLEASE read before coming here.
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 3:39:19 PM EST
What about my.....


Official NY SAFE Act FAQ

Read that first. If you have a specific question, Google it. If it is elusive as all hell, check NYfirearms.com

If the answer isn't there, and it's not a stupid question, ask it without using all caps.
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 4:49:49 PM EST
This needs to be pinned
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 5:05:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By highspeedforlife:
What about my.....


Official NY SAFE Act FAQ

Read that first. If you have a specific question, Google it. If it is elusive as all hell, check NYfirearms.com

If the answer isn't there, and it's not a stupid question, ask it without using all caps.
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It's a good idea, but here's the problem (at least how I see it):  ARFcom, in fact most web forums is one hell of a big, confusing place. When one is searching out information, sometimes just getting to the right place is uber challenging;  For example: I went to a BMW forum, signed up, and went searching for information...spent quite a bit of time looking, finally posted a question and was promptly smacked with "go check the Wiki page." which was fine, even the best answer, but it took a long time to finally find that answer....if it doesn't have the key words or phrases the newby is looking for right there in their face, they won't spend any time looking through it.  
Perhaps those who seriously spend time here could take a position of referring new posters with basic FAQ's right to a particular link, then hopefully they'll contribute and enrich the forum, or go away, but us getting pissy or butt hurt over it accomplishes nothing.
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 5:07:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fp1201:


It's a good idea, but here's the problem (at least how I see it):  ARFcom, in fact most web forums is one hell of a big, confusing place. When one is searching out information, sometimes just getting to the right place is uber challenging;  For example: I went to a BMW forum, signed up, and went searching for information...spent quite a bit of time looking, finally posted a question and was promptly smacked with "go check the Wiki page." which was fine, even the best answer, but it took a long time to finally find that answer....if it doesn't have the key words or phrases the newby is looking for right there in their face, they won't spend any time looking through it.  
Perhaps those who seriously spend time here could take a position of referring new posters with basic FAQ's right to a particular link, then hopefully they'll contribute and enrich the forum, or go away, but us getting pissy or butt hurt over it accomplishes nothing.
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Originally Posted By fp1201:
Originally Posted By highspeedforlife:
What about my.....


Official NY SAFE Act FAQ

Read that first. If you have a specific question, Google it. If it is elusive as all hell, check NYfirearms.com

If the answer isn't there, and it's not a stupid question, ask it without using all caps.


It's a good idea, but here's the problem (at least how I see it):  ARFcom, in fact most web forums is one hell of a big, confusing place. When one is searching out information, sometimes just getting to the right place is uber challenging;  For example: I went to a BMW forum, signed up, and went searching for information...spent quite a bit of time looking, finally posted a question and was promptly smacked with "go check the Wiki page." which was fine, even the best answer, but it took a long time to finally find that answer....if it doesn't have the key words or phrases the newby is looking for right there in their face, they won't spend any time looking through it.  
Perhaps those who seriously spend time here could take a position of referring new posters with basic FAQ's right to a particular link, then hopefully they'll contribute and enrich the forum, or go away, but us getting pissy or butt hurt over it accomplishes nothing.


Only because I like you and your fishing skills are superior - I will make a pledge to be helpful to the next 3 rookies with silly questions.

Also must be nice to have a BMW and all the guns ever made
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 5:15:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By highspeedforlife:
Also must be nice to have a BMW and all the guns ever made
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The Bimmer was a used 2003 325XI and it was a love/hate relationship: buying the car was very reasonable, it was a very nice car to travel in, and the harder you pushed it the better it liked it.  

I don't have "all the guns ever made".....YET!  
Link Posted: 11/26/2014 6:32:04 PM EST
Bravo Mr. Fish.   Bravo!


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Link Posted: 11/28/2014 8:41:39 PM EST
Excellent post.
Sucks that it had to be done, the whole thing sucks, but it should be helpful.



And... fuck you andy.
Link Posted: 11/29/2014 5:36:54 PM EST
We are not welcome in our own state

According to herr cuomo, we are extremists
that don't belong here

Why come here?

Spend your money somewhere else

Why risk being arrested?

Link Posted: 11/29/2014 10:15:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/29/2014 10:15:32 PM EST by cas]


We should make this thread a sticky, that way no one will ever read it again.
Link Posted: 11/29/2014 11:50:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cas:
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We should make this thread a sticky, that way no one will ever read it again.
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Negatory. We need to bump fire this thread.
Link Posted: 11/30/2014 5:29:02 AM EST
Consult your lawyer or a NY lawyer familiar with the un-SAFE Act.  NY does not welcome your freedom here and will not hesitate to arrest you for your ignorance.  Don't want to pay a lawyer for a consult?  Then buy yourself a cheap tube of...

Link Posted: 12/1/2014 6:15:18 AM EST
Great post Fish
Link Posted: 12/1/2014 6:59:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JW1069:
Consult your lawyer or a NY lawyer familiar with the un-SAFE Act.  NY does not welcome your freedom here and will not hesitate to arrest you for your ignorance.  Don't want to pay a lawyer for a consult?  Then buy yourself a cheap tube of...

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Won't matter.  They'll just ban that too.
And then replace it with this:



Seriously, this is one of the reasons I'm glad I don't live there any more.
Link Posted: 12/1/2014 11:32:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/1/2014 3:35:53 PM EST
^^^ Nice work Fish!
Link Posted: 12/1/2014 7:46:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/2/2014 9:08:15 AM EST
20 bucks says we have a question that is answered in this thread posted as a new thread before Christmas.
Link Posted: 12/2/2014 10:28:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/24/2015 8:55:27 PM EST
My bad. I started another out-of-towner thread.

Didnt see this thread prior. Please excuse my other posting. Thank you.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 11:53:52 PM EST
DON'T come here!  This state is "THE CESSPOOL of THE LEFT!"  If you must, be resourceful!
Link Posted: 5/31/2015 2:52:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/31/2015 2:53:35 PM EST by somedude]
has anyone gotten a out of state non resident pistol permit, someone in the family knows someone who got one in a short amount of time.  I heard all kinds of nuts things about getting one, but trying to find solid info and perhaps someone who went through the ringer on this.

all of my living family is still in NY so I visit from time to time.
Link Posted: 6/1/2015 6:48:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/1/2015 6:49:10 AM EST by fish223]
Link Posted: 6/1/2015 9:15:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fish223:
I do not believe there is any  non-resident permit issued by NY, nor has there ever been.

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ok, only thing I have found was people who live there part time can possibly get one. seems like no go on pepper spray to...
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 3:05:24 AM EST
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[Last Edit: 6/22/2015 8:09:13 AM EST by yellowrexsi]
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Originally Posted By TimJ:
So I have Gogled and Gogled...can I posess ammunition in New York being a non permitted out of stater?
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Yes you can. Currently we don't have ammo possession restrictions.
Edit: nys does not have ammo possession restrictions. Nyc could be a different story.
Are you asking for nys or nyc?
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 8:20:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By somedude:
has anyone gotten a out of state non resident pistol permit, someone in the family knows someone who got one in a short amount of time.  I heard all kinds of nuts things about getting one, but trying to find solid info and perhaps someone who went through the ringer on this.

all of my living family is still in NY so I visit from time to time.
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My Dad and a friend of mine, just got NY non resident permits.  Delaware and Chenango County.   Delaware will issue a premise permit. Chenango does the same, but after having the permit for one year and taking a pistol class they will upgrade it to unrestricted.

The kicker is for both counties, you need to own a house.   Staying with family, renting or leasing does not qualify according to their rules.  Other counties may vary.  My family owns a cabin on 250 acres that we all use.  My wife and I spend the most time there of anyone in the family, but my name is not on the deed, so I can not get a permit.

We've been pondering whether to do the simple thing of selling a 1% share to each person, or sue the the county.
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 6:01:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/3/2016 9:33:20 PM EST
NYers have learned to become "Resourceful"!  If you're a non resident looking to bring guns into NY, use your brains! 'Nuff said!
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 11:12:59 PM EST
Simple question as I haven't been in the state in about 8 years (don't miss it either), don't know what laws have changed, and am traveling up this weekend to visit family for the holidays:

Can I have an unloaded shotgun in my truck under the back seat? Can the ammo be in the cab with me, say in the glovebox?

Does the shotgun have to be locked?

If "features" are a question its an H&R pardner, with an 18.5" barrel, and 5 round capacity:



Sorry for the silly questions, but last I know (again, 8 years ago..) it would be completely legal if the gun was unloaded. I want to make sure that hasn't changed. I wouldn't bring anything but the thought of driving across the entire US without a firearm leaves me leery.

Thanks in advance guys!
Link Posted: 12/21/2016 12:57:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 2:08:45 PM EST
Well, next week we will be driving to Maine. Unfortunately I can't avoid driving through NY.  Normally when I we travel I carry my STG-556 with the barrel removed in a discrete bag, and my Glock 19, and maybe a pocket gun.   I have LEOSA creds, but still thinking it is not a good idea to bring the STG or my Glock through the state.

So my options seem to be as follows:
Option 1: Carry my Kahr P9 which has a magazine capacity of 7 rounds, and bring a Mossberg pump shotgun, which I see from the above posts should be locked separate from the ammo. What if the shotgun is disassembled and in some kind of container but not locked?
Option 2: Carry my Ruger Speed Six .357 revolver and a few speed loaders plus my Rossi ranch hand in .357.  Are lever action rifles ok under the Unsafe act?

I'm inclined towards option 1 just because I have more holsters for the Kahr which gives me more carry options once at my destination.  The appeal of option 2 is not having to carry two types of ammo, but I only have one holster for the Speed Six and it being a full sized 4" bbl gun it will be harder to conceal.
Link Posted: 6/28/2017 12:30:55 AM EST
There is no New York State rule about transport in a locked container but under fopa it is suggested (? Required) it be. Traveling under leosa a pistol with ten round mag is fine. Rossi ranch hand is actually a pistol I believe and in the eyes of New York State is in the same category as any other pistol covered solely under leosa or fopa.for non leosa transport the federal rule ( with no safe bet New York State will respect federal law) is locked in a container unloaded with ammo separately.and the advice for non Leo's is to spend as little time as possible in New York State ( no fuel food or overnight stops- use the restroom before you cross into New York and make every effort not to stop at all in New York. I thank my lucky stars every day that I had the good sense and opportunity to leave a year ago!
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