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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPL:
Tried working up a load today with less than desireable results: LC Brass 208 gr Amax 11 gr A1680 1.210 OAL Gun wouldn't cyle. Would kick the empty's out, but wouldn't load the next cartridge and the avg vel was around 1,230 fps. So, I'm supersonic and my gun won't cycle. 
Any suggestions? A1860 is that good stuff too! |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garyd:
it sounds like a possible gas issue. possibly either gas port to small or gas block misaligned. your velocity just seems odd. I'm new to loading but I know A1860 is good stuff and yeah. His FPS is a little odd. Could it be pressure issue? |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:38:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garyd:
it sounds like a possible gas issue. possibly either gas port to small or gas block misaligned. your velocity just seems odd. I've been wondering about the gas block misaligned. I just installed it. Looks straight. I can't think of any way to know for sure though. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:48:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPL:
I've been wondering about the gas block misaligned. I just installed it. Looks straight. I can't think of any way to know for sure though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPL:
Originally Posted By garyd:
it sounds like a possible gas issue. possibly either gas port to small or gas block misaligned. your velocity just seems odd. I've been wondering about the gas block misaligned. I just installed it. Looks straight. I can't think of any way to know for sure though. well you could always get a set of calipers and take 30 different measurements or you could do the down and dirty easy way i use. unload firearm and remove bolt and carrier plug chamber end with rag remove muzzle device Clean muzzle and wipe down very well while blowing into the muzzle end move gas block around until you feel the least amount of Resistance. set screws and go shooting. This route may give an engineer a coronary, but it has worked for me every time. 
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:12:30 PM EDT
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What size are you guys drilling out the hole to?
Can anyone suggest a buffer and spring? |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPL:
What size are you guys drilling out the hole to? Can anyone suggest a buffer and spring? really good read on gas port size http://micromoa.com/?page_id=496 as far as buffer and spring standard carbine buffer and spring have worked great for me. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:09:45 AM EDT
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I had a few weird failure to feeds this past weekend. It wasn't with every round, and it was only when I used the bolt release. When I used the charging handle there were zero issues. I'm currenrly using the LWRC UCIW ultar compact stock, this has me thinking I might need to switch the spring to something that can generate a little more force.
Thoughts? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 2:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogface_313: I had a few weird failure to feeds this past weekend. It wasn't with every round, and it was only when I used the bolt release. When I used the charging handle there were zero issues. I'm currenrly using the LWRC UCIW ultar compact stock, this has me thinking I might need to switch the spring to something that can generate a little more force. Thoughts? Not much to go on. Bullet brand and weight, nose shape? OAL? |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 9:03:29 PM EDT
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It happened with two different loads.
1. 220 gr SMK loaded to 2.089" 2. 125 gr SST loaded to 2.100" I verify every loaded round is within +- .003" My gut tells me the buffer spring is not applying enough force to fully chamber the round when release from a dead spot by using the bolt release. When I don't use the bolt release there is no issue. However it causes a stoppage that requires me to pull the charging handle while driving the butt stock onto a hard object, similar to a bolt override. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Not much to go on. Bullet brand and weight, nose shape? OAL? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By dogface_313:
I had a few weird failure to feeds this past weekend. It wasn't with every round, and it was only when I used the bolt release. When I used the charging handle there were zero issues. I'm currenrly using the LWRC UCIW ultar compact stock, this has me thinking I might need to switch the spring to something that can generate a little more force. Thoughts? Not much to go on. Bullet brand and weight, nose shape? OAL? |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 11:28:19 PM EDT
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that sounds like either a small chamber or out of spec brass.
to make sure I understand if you let the bolt go with the bolt release the bolt will not fully close, and you cannot open the bolt up unless you mortar (slamming butt stock on hard object while pulling charging handle) if that is the case then it is either your chamber or the brass/bullet or possible both are out of spec. it is not the spring. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 1:58:03 PM EDT
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Not to sidetrack the previous issue, but I have one of my own. I got my Giraud case holder for 300 Blackout in the mail yesterday, and right away went at it. The problem was that it seemed that my cutter head, set for .308-diameter, didn't trim/chamfer/debur the way I'm used to. It cut a bevel inside the case mouth, didn't seem to remove any burr on the outside, and just looked wrong. I fiddled with the cutter and got it better, but I wonder if anyone else has seen this? Is it due to the case mouth being thicker than say a .308 case's neck?
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPL:
Tried working up a load today with less than desireable results: LC Brass 208 gr Amax 11 gr A1680 1.210 OAL Gun wouldn't cyle. Would kick the empty's out, but wouldn't load the next cartridge and the avg vel was around 1,230 fps. So, I'm supersonic and my gun won't cycle.
Any suggestions? Could you double check your OAL? No way it's 1.210", brass is ~1.35". |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:38:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 38_Special:
Could you double check your OAL? No way it's 1.210", brass is ~1.35". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 38_Special:
Originally Posted By JPL:
Tried working up a load today with less than desireable results: LC Brass 208 gr Amax 11 gr A1680 1.210 OAL Gun wouldn't cyle. Would kick the empty's out, but wouldn't load the next cartridge and the avg vel was around 1,230 fps. So, I'm supersonic and my gun won't cycle.
Any suggestions? Could you double check your OAL? No way it's 1.210", brass is ~1.35". Yes, I will, but I know that is correct. I'm in Boston, MA for the next week so it will be a while before I can. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 9:27:12 PM EDT
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Pretty sure your OAL is is 2.210.....just sayin. My same combo with 11.3 gr. 1680 is 2.250 OAL. I'd not seat quite that deep with that bullet. Incidently, my load in a 16" carbine was a bit too fast with the average at 1163 fps. I'm at 10.8 now and it runs just fine.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 10:49:08 PM EDT
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Maybe hes measuring by OGIVE?
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Posted: 9/26/2014 1:30:42 AM EDT
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Decision, decisions...
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Posted: 9/26/2014 9:01:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Decision, decisions... http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20140926_012454_267.jpg Info on those Bullets please? |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 9:08:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX:
Info on those Bullets please? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Decision, decisions... http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20140926_012454_267.jpg Info on those Bullets please? Gemtech 187gr sub, Remington 220gr BT sub, Barnes VOR-TX 110gr TTSX super. Not terrible as far as loaded subs go, the Gemtech can be had for under a buck a round, cycles fine and groups OK, but not nearly as tight as the Rem 220gr. |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 12:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Decision, decisions... http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20140926_012454_267.jpg Factory ammo! Where does reloading tie in |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 1:38:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcscout:
Factory ammo! Where does reloading tie in Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcscout:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Decision, decisions... http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20140926_012454_267.jpg Factory ammo! Where does reloading tie in Because this caliber is going to force me into reloading... 
That's $3.50 worth of ammo in that pic. Of course that's subs and TSX loads, so they will be higher than light plinking supers, but I didn't build a .300 to plink with supers |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 10:19:59 PM EDT
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I'm hoping the weather is nice enough tomorrow to go to the rifle range.
I got some testing to do. 
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Posted: 9/27/2014 7:48:39 PM EDT
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Any body have any resources for loading lead bullets?
Something along the lines of either a 115gr round nose like this: http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=106&category=6&secondary=&keywords= Or more of a flat nose like this: http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=182&category=6&secondary=&keywords= |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 9:30:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wingsnthings]
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I tried the flat nose 165 gr from Meister in my 8 in BO. Loaded over 12 gr IMR 4227, crimped into the rear lube groove, and got 16 inch "pattern" at 100 yds. They were running about 1400 fps. I think that 1:7 twist might be too much. Either jumping the rifling or twisting too fast and distorting the bullets. I also tried loading some .30 mauser 85 gr RN bullets. they shoot great but dont feed worth a shit. Too short and round nose gets hung up on barrel extension lugs.I'd really like to find a light cast bullet that would work and be cheap to shoot.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 10:05:21 PM EDT
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Where is everyone finding 1680?
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Posted: 9/27/2014 10:49:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ziondogg76: Where is everyone finding 1680? Posts get edited, and threads locked when this is posted. I'm thinking you didn't know this, now you do. dryflash3
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Posted: 9/27/2014 10:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAD762: Any body have any resources for loading lead bullets? Something along the lines of either a 115gr round nose like this: http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=106&category=6&secondary=&keywords= Or more of a flat nose like this: http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=182&category=6&secondary=&keywords= Try the bullets in your second link.
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Posted: 9/28/2014 5:33:27 PM EDT
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managed to burn through a few rounds today
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Posted: 9/28/2014 7:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Because this caliber is going to force me into reloading...
That's $3.50 worth of ammo in that pic. Of course that's subs and TSX loads, so they will be higher than light plinking supers, but I didn't build a .300 to plink with supers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By usmcscout:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Decision, decisions... http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20140926_012454_267.jpg Factory ammo! Where does reloading tie in Because this caliber is going to force me into reloading...
That's $3.50 worth of ammo in that pic. Of course that's subs and TSX loads, so they will be higher than light plinking supers, but I didn't build a .300 to plink with supers Nothing wrong with plinking with subs though
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:13:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JAD762]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
I've tried short 30 carbine bullets, they don't feed from a mag, as they are too short of an OAL. Try the bullets in your second link. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By JAD762:
Any body have any resources for loading lead bullets? Something along the lines of either a 115gr round nose like this: http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=106&category=6&secondary=&keywords= Or more of a flat nose like this: http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=182&category=6&secondary=&keywords= Try the bullets in your second link. Any resources for load data? Would these need gas checks? |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Nothing wrong with plinking with subs though
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140928_193531_855_zpsxtgfx8y3.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By usmcscout:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Decision, decisions... http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20140926_012454_267.jpg Factory ammo! Where does reloading tie in Because this caliber is going to force me into reloading...
That's $3.50 worth of ammo in that pic. Of course that's subs and TSX loads, so they will be higher than light plinking supers, but I didn't build a .300 to plink with supers Nothing wrong with plinking with subs though
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140928_193531_855_zpsxtgfx8y3.jpg Mind sharing your load data for that bullet? |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:23:21 PM EDT
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I don't have any data for those bullets, but these bullets have been mentioned in this thread before.
You could check the back pages of this thread.
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAD762:
Mind sharing your load data for that bullet? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAD762:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By usmcscout:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Decision, decisions... http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20140926_012454_267.jpg Factory ammo! Where does reloading tie in Because this caliber is going to force me into reloading...
That's $3.50 worth of ammo in that pic. Of course that's subs and TSX loads, so they will be higher than light plinking supers, but I didn't build a .300 to plink with supers Nothing wrong with plinking with subs though
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140928_193531_855_zpsxtgfx8y3.jpg Mind sharing your load data for that bullet? suppressor safe ? |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:31:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easy_E:
suppressor safe ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easy_E:
Originally Posted By JAD762:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Nothing wrong with plinking with subs though
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140928_193531_855_zpsxtgfx8y3.jpg Mind sharing your load data for that bullet? suppressor safe ? According to the mfr, they are. They have a polymer coating that other members here have reported hasn't come off on bullets they've recovered. I'm using the last of my 1680 to load some up this week to chrony. I'll be starting around 10.5 and working down from there. I usually load 208's to about 10.3 for 1050 fps out of my 16" carbine with good function. I'll report to this thread when I get a chance to test them. |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 10:33:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RocketmanOU:
According to the mfr, they are. They have a polymer coating that other members here have reported hasn't come off on bullets they've recovered. I'm using the last of my 1680 to load some up this week to chrony. I'll be starting around 10.5 and working down from there. I usually load 208's to about 10.3 for 1050 fps out of my 16" carbine with good function. I'll report to this thread when I get a chance to test them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Originally Posted By Easy_E:
Originally Posted By JAD762:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Nothing wrong with plinking with subs though
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140928_193531_855_zpsxtgfx8y3.jpg Mind sharing your load data for that bullet? suppressor safe ? According to the mfr, they are. They have a polymer coating that other members here have reported hasn't come off on bullets they've recovered. I'm using the last of my 1680 to load some up this week to chrony. I'll be starting around 10.5 and working down from there. I usually load 208's to about 10.3 for 1050 fps out of my 16" carbine with good function. I'll report to this thread when I get a chance to test them. Thank You ! |
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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:27:12 PM EDT
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Anyone know if imr4227 or lil gun is quiet sounding sub? Also which powder would likely able to work lower to get subsonic on lighter bullets?
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Posted: 9/29/2014 5:34:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Starcraftmlg:
Anyone know if imr4227 or lil gun is quiet sounding sub? Also which powder would likely able to work lower to get subsonic on lighter bullets? Both of those powders produce "quieter" subsonic shots then say 1680. In my experience the only problem at least with lil gun is that it does not like to function a 16 inch carbine gas AR15 even with the largest gas port. it may work if the suppressor is attached, but without a suppressor it is iffy. 4227 has some good reports over on 300blktalk.com, but I have not personally used it yet. Ah the light weight subsonic that will function an AR15. The holy grail so to speak. there are reports of guys using lightweight subs that function. I have not been able to repeat a lot of these tests. the lightest weight sub that I have gotten to function was 178gr AMAX with using 1680. no other powder I tried would work. Generally speaking and to avoid a possible reloading induced stress increase. it is best to keep AR15 subs as close to or above 200gr. yes lighter weight can be done, but it can be a pain and a lot of wasted bullets. Again there are some claims of 150gr and lighter subsoncs, but I think those, if they do actually work, have modified their rifles in some way. now if you are looking at a bolt action or single shot then that is another story and I will say a 100gr hornady .312 xtp is a great subsonic varmint bullet 
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Posted: 10/1/2014 12:26:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov:
All you .300 guys posting in this thread - I know you're sitting on a treasure trove of reloading data. Please help fill in the reloading database for this caliber. Please read the bottom of the announcement at the top of the forum on how to format the data to help me out: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/418177_Reloading_database_for_rifle_and_pistol__user_contributed__updated_2_24_2014.html It may take a little time to format and send to me, but this is a community effort. YOU make this place useful; don't rely only on others. .300AAC is one area that I KNOW a lot of people have data for, so let's have 'em. Same thing for other common calibers. Take a look at the data and help fill it in. |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 11:33:04 PM EDT
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hey guys. I am trying to find load data for IMR 4759
check out this thread I created today. Original Thread Basically I have a 16" 1/7 twist with a carbine gas system and want loads to cycle properly with no can (I cannot own one in Ca) I am not looking for super accurate ammo just consistent cycling and semi accurate. This is a range toy plinking gun I have cci primers and brass from east coast arsenal. I got 2 lbs of IMR 4759 I have found on other sites where people stated that 16gr of 4759 cycled with a carbine gas system and a 147gr bullet. The user in the other thread gave me advice on two comparable powders and advised me to split the difference and work my way up. I started with 14.5 gr and 15gr and they just seem to fill the case up fearing on how the 147gr bullet will seat. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I want to get some test loads ready for my range day coming up in a couple weeks. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 6:25:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StretchMaK]
[#40]
Hey guys, I have a question for ya.
Which of these powders is leaving the green crud in my gun? My bolt carrier and bolt are covered with a greenish crud after a range trip. It is not hurting anything as far as I can tell. It is just my black out that does this green crud crap. AA 1680 - 220 SMK over 10.8gr of 1680 and 208 AMAX over 10.5gr of 1680 IMR 4198 - 208gr AMAX over 10.6gr, still working this one down H 110 - 150gr FMJ over 15.9gr and 110gr TAC TX over 19gr Gun is 8" with a pistol gas system on it. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 8:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Use the tacked "Where to find" thread at the top of the page for this question. Posts get edited, and threads locked when this is posted. I'm thinking you didn't know this, now you do. dryflash3 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By ziondogg76:
Where is everyone finding 1680? Posts get edited, and threads locked when this is posted. I'm thinking you didn't know this, now you do. dryflash3 Nope didn't know....I do now. Thanks bro! |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 9:42:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garyd:
Both of those powders produce "quieter" subsonic shots then say 1680. In my experience the only problem at least with lil gun is that it does not like to function a 16 inch carbine gas AR15 even with the largest gas port. it may work if the suppressor is attached, but without a suppressor it is iffy. 4227 has some good reports over on 300blktalk.com, but I have not personally used it yet. Ah the light weight subsonic that will function an AR15. The holy grail so to speak. there are reports of guys using lightweight subs that function. I have not been able to repeat a lot of these tests. the lightest weight sub that I have gotten to function was 178gr AMAX with using 1680. no other powder I tried would work. Generally speaking and to avoid a possible reloading induced stress increase. it is best to keep AR15 subs as close to or above 200gr. yes lighter weight can be done, but it can be a pain and a lot of wasted bullets. Again there are some claims of 150gr and lighter subsoncs, but I think those, if they do actually work, have modified their rifles in some way. now if you are looking at a bolt action or single shot then that is another story and I will say a 100gr hornady .312 xtp is a great subsonic varmint bullet Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garyd:
Originally Posted By Starcraftmlg:
Anyone know if imr4227 or lil gun is quiet sounding sub? Also which powder would likely able to work lower to get subsonic on lighter bullets? Both of those powders produce "quieter" subsonic shots then say 1680. In my experience the only problem at least with lil gun is that it does not like to function a 16 inch carbine gas AR15 even with the largest gas port. it may work if the suppressor is attached, but without a suppressor it is iffy. 4227 has some good reports over on 300blktalk.com, but I have not personally used it yet. Ah the light weight subsonic that will function an AR15. The holy grail so to speak. there are reports of guys using lightweight subs that function. I have not been able to repeat a lot of these tests. the lightest weight sub that I have gotten to function was 178gr AMAX with using 1680. no other powder I tried would work. Generally speaking and to avoid a possible reloading induced stress increase. it is best to keep AR15 subs as close to or above 200gr. yes lighter weight can be done, but it can be a pain and a lot of wasted bullets. Again there are some claims of 150gr and lighter subsoncs, but I think those, if they do actually work, have modified their rifles in some way. now if you are looking at a bolt action or single shot then that is another story and I will say a 100gr hornady .312 xtp is a great subsonic varmint bullet Reason why I ask is cheap bullet! I want to go cheapest! I found 190gr for $30/1000 bullets? So really, my subs would be around $350/1000 after said and done. 1680 is hard to find! So I only gots lil gun and IMR4227. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 9:47:04 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob99rt:
Fat Mcnasty helped me out by reshaping the flat point bullets I had to a pointed shape, and I finally got to shoot a few this morning. With 14.3 g of Lil gun, an oal of 2.03", and a fairly heavy crimp with a Lee fcd, I had one round that caused the bolt to not fully retract. I upped the charge to 14.5 grains and it ran great. Accuracy wasn't wonderful, but not bad, either. Little worried about the look of the primers, though. Do these look OK or does it look like to much pressure? 14.5 is still pretty low compared to some loads I've done with Lil gun. <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/rob99rt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141011_135438_zpsu6kxhr4w.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/Mobile%20Uploads/20141011_135438_zpsu6kxhr4w.jpg</a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/rob99rt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141011_135423_zpsg8ibl9ou.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/Mobile%20Uploads/20141011_135423_zpsg8ibl9ou.jpg</a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/user/rob99rt/media/targets/20141011_135837_zpsmu9v0qv_edit_1413065261243_zps5budem96.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/targets/20141011_135837_zpsmu9v0qv_edit_1413065261243_zps5budem96.jpg</a> Target was at 50 yards. Shooting at the center of it with a 1-4x scope set on 4x. Two of the holes have a little black mark on them from a couple previous shots with the 14.3 loads. Only 4 are in this group of 14.5 grain loads because I let my 8 year old shoot the 5th one and he shot WAY high and right. It's funny the poi is so far off compared to the 110 grain Barnes black and blue tips. I can drill the center all day long with those. These are 4" right and a few low at 50 yards, though. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What bullet are they? I've loaded Lil gun with 147gr and my lowest charge was 10.3gr. COAL at 2.115". It cycled. I didn't have any pressure sign. Altho 10.8gr wasn't accurate as my 13gr. I loaded with 3 other powders and they all performed well around 13gr to 14.5gr. I used Hornady's 150gr data but I tweaked it a little. Hornady wanted 2.220" which is IMPOSSIBLE since the bullet would only seat like .100" into the neck meaning neck tension is proper. I had Xtreme bullets where I loaded it around 2.220" and it got jammed into my barrel. I ejected it and the case came out but bullet stuck in the barrel. The neck tension isn't that great loaded that long. Maybe its because I trimmed my cases down to 1.350" |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 10:47:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Starcraftmlg:
What bullet are they? I've loaded Lil gun with 147gr and my lowest charge was 10.3gr. COAL at 2.115". It cycled. I didn't have any pressure sign. Altho 10.8gr wasn't accurate as my 13gr. I loaded with 3 other powders and they all performed well around 13gr to 14.5gr. I used Hornady's 150gr data but I tweaked it a little. Hornady wanted 2.220" which is IMPOSSIBLE since the bullet would only seat like .100" into the neck meaning neck tension is proper. I had Xtreme bullets where I loaded it around 2.220" and it got jammed into my barrel. I ejected it and the case came out but bullet stuck in the barrel. The neck tension isn't that great loaded that long. Maybe its because I trimmed my cases down to 1.350" It's the flat-point xtreme 150's that he reshaped to be a pointed profile. They feed GREAT now, and the 14.5 grain load was quite a bit more accurate than the 14.3. I wouldn't have through that .2 grains would make as much of a difference as it did, but the 14.3 was all over the place (left, high, right, low) and the 14.5 load all grouped in about an inch and 1/2 or so... Of course, I wasn't bench-rest shooting or anything (was sitting on an upside-down bucket, although the SBR did have a bipod, but the bipod was sitting on a cooler I pulled out of the garage)... hey, here in the sticks we just use what we have laying around. I'm sure I could tighten up the group some if I'd done what I normally do and get a shooting mat and prone out, but for a "check and see if it works" group, it seemed to do pretty well. FWIW, using the Lee FCD and a decent crimp on these bullets, you can't push the bullets back at all by hand.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:50:52 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob99rt:
It's the flat-point xtreme 150's that he reshaped to be a pointed profile. They feed GREAT now, and the 14.5 grain load was quite a bit more accurate than the 14.3. I wouldn't have through that .2 grains would make as much of a difference as it did, but the 14.3 was all over the place (left, high, right, low) and the 14.5 load all grouped in about an inch and 1/2 or so... Of course, I wasn't bench-rest shooting or anything (was sitting on an upside-down bucket, although the SBR did have a bipod, but the bipod was sitting on a cooler I pulled out of the garage)... hey, here in the sticks we just use what we have laying around. I'm sure I could tighten up the group some if I'd done what I normally do and get a shooting mat and prone out, but for a "check and see if it works" group, it seemed to do pretty well. FWIW, using the Lee FCD and a decent crimp on these bullets, you can't push the bullets back at all by hand.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob99rt:
Originally Posted By Starcraftmlg:
What bullet are they? I've loaded Lil gun with 147gr and my lowest charge was 10.3gr. COAL at 2.115". It cycled. I didn't have any pressure sign. Altho 10.8gr wasn't accurate as my 13gr. I loaded with 3 other powders and they all performed well around 13gr to 14.5gr. I used Hornady's 150gr data but I tweaked it a little. Hornady wanted 2.220" which is IMPOSSIBLE since the bullet would only seat like .100" into the neck meaning neck tension is proper. I had Xtreme bullets where I loaded it around 2.220" and it got jammed into my barrel. I ejected it and the case came out but bullet stuck in the barrel. The neck tension isn't that great loaded that long. Maybe its because I trimmed my cases down to 1.350" It's the flat-point xtreme 150's that he reshaped to be a pointed profile. They feed GREAT now, and the 14.5 grain load was quite a bit more accurate than the 14.3. I wouldn't have through that .2 grains would make as much of a difference as it did, but the 14.3 was all over the place (left, high, right, low) and the 14.5 load all grouped in about an inch and 1/2 or so... Of course, I wasn't bench-rest shooting or anything (was sitting on an upside-down bucket, although the SBR did have a bipod, but the bipod was sitting on a cooler I pulled out of the garage)... hey, here in the sticks we just use what we have laying around. I'm sure I could tighten up the group some if I'd done what I normally do and get a shooting mat and prone out, but for a "check and see if it works" group, it seemed to do pretty well. FWIW, using the Lee FCD and a decent crimp on these bullets, you can't push the bullets back at all by hand.normally i run a canulure on mine.. and im glad I was able to solve the problem for ya.. 
this is something you blackout guys will enjoy.. 912Fps 16 inch penetration. in clear gel. 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:25:04 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fat_McNasty: normally i run a canulure on mine.. and im glad I was able to solve the problem for ya.. this is something you blackout guys will enjoy.. 912Fps 16 inch penetration. in clear gel. http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag263/Bsr_Bullets/IMG_1129_zps5e13bad2.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fat_McNasty: Originally Posted By rob99rt: Originally Posted By Starcraftmlg: What bullet are they? I've loaded Lil gun with 147gr and my lowest charge was 10.3gr. COAL at 2.115". It cycled. I didn't have any pressure sign. Altho 10.8gr wasn't accurate as my 13gr. I loaded with 3 other powders and they all performed well around 13gr to 14.5gr. I used Hornady's 150gr data but I tweaked it a little. Hornady wanted 2.220" which is IMPOSSIBLE since the bullet would only seat like .100" into the neck meaning neck tension is proper. I had Xtreme bullets where I loaded it around 2.220" and it got jammed into my barrel. I ejected it and the case came out but bullet stuck in the barrel. The neck tension isn't that great loaded that long. Maybe its because I trimmed my cases down to 1.350" It's the flat-point xtreme 150's that he reshaped to be a pointed profile. They feed GREAT now, and the 14.5 grain load was quite a bit more accurate than the 14.3. I wouldn't have through that .2 grains would make as much of a difference as it did, but the 14.3 was all over the place (left, high, right, low) and the 14.5 load all grouped in about an inch and 1/2 or so... Of course, I wasn't bench-rest shooting or anything (was sitting on an upside-down bucket, although the SBR did have a bipod, but the bipod was sitting on a cooler I pulled out of the garage)... hey, here in the sticks we just use what we have laying around. I'm sure I could tighten up the group some if I'd done what I normally do and get a shooting mat and prone out, but for a "check and see if it works" group, it seemed to do pretty well. FWIW, using the Lee FCD and a decent crimp on these bullets, you can't push the bullets back at all by hand.normally i run a canulure on mine.. and im glad I was able to solve the problem for ya.. this is something you blackout guys will enjoy.. 912Fps 16 inch penetration. in clear gel. http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag263/Bsr_Bullets/IMG_1129_zps5e13bad2.jpg Bullet weight? In the 200 gr area? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:30:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3:
Bullet weight? In the 200 gr area? 220.1Gr. i was a bit off with core size.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:41:04 PM EDT
[#48]
I just wanted to share this with you guys.... If you dont think you can afford a suppressor, I have good news.
For $350 after tax stamp you can have one, that works perfectly on 300 blackout! Plus Form 1's are only taking 30-35 days, mine should be here in 2-3 weeks. My friend built one and he says subsonics are basically silent like a highend suppressor. Parts can be found @ SDtactical.com 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 5:56:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GHPorter]
[#49]
Disregard. I did more reading and got un-confused by myself.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 8:45:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fat_McNasty: 220.1Gr. i was a bit off with core size. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fat_McNasty: Originally Posted By dryflash3: Bullet weight? In the 200 gr area? 220.1Gr. i was a bit off with core size. |
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