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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:35:50 PM EDT
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Silencer shop is telling me March before they get any of these. Two months ago they told me Febuary. Waiting on paperwork is hard but waiting on it to come into stock is even worse. Rainier Arms has RC cans in stock. Not the Mini  This. |
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Posted: 3/1/2013 5:40:01 PM EDT
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Glad my Class3 had one on hand... originally wanted one in FDE but, He only had a black one. Not a big deal, as I can go to a local shop and get it Cerakoted in the color of choice. NFA branch should have received the envelope this week and I'll check on it in a couple of weeks regarding the pending status.
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Posted: 3/2/2013 6:46:52 AM EDT
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I bought a SOCOM556-RC FDE from the shop listed below. Their form 3 turn around was pretty quick and their pricing was well below MSRP. They seemed to have an ample of stock when I ordered mine in late January.
Allen Arms Tactical |
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Posted: 3/28/2013 6:29:38 PM EDT
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Well, dealer deposited my check a couple days ago. So my process has officially begun.
 
Basic black 556-RC. |
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Posted: 3/28/2013 7:37:53 PM EDT
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My check was cashed by the ATF on the 19th for my 762. I'm betting October.
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Posted: 3/30/2013 10:51:06 AM EDT
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Pew pew pew
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Posted: 4/4/2013 8:46:15 PM EDT
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What did you pay for it if you don't mind? I am considering spending another $100 to buy from a dealer with one in stock instead of waiting. March has come and gone.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 9:24:44 PM EDT
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What did you pay for it if you don't mind? I am considering spending another $100 to buy from a dealer with one in stock instead of waiting. March has come and gone. Try Colonial Armory in Tennessee, I just got one for a great price from them. He had multiple ones in stock last week. |
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:48:33 PM EDT
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ATF cashed my check on 4/3
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Posted: 4/6/2013 9:51:07 AM EDT
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What did you pay for it if you don't mind? I am considering spending another $100 to buy from a dealer with one in stock instead of waiting. March has come and gone. Try Colonial Armory in Tennessee, I just got one for a great price from them. He had multiple ones in stock last week. Thanks! I emailed them yesterday and I'm waiting to hear back. |
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Posted: 4/18/2013 10:53:44 AM EDT
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Thanks to all for the help, I have a 7.62 socom mini on a f3 to my dealer now.
When is surefire going to release the muzzle brakes for these? Anyone know? |
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Posted: 4/18/2013 3:57:54 PM EDT
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Thanks to all for the help, I have a 7.62 socom mini on a f3 to my dealer now. When is surefire going to release the muzzle brakes for these? Anyone know? They are already out. |
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Posted: 4/18/2013 9:03:44 PM EDT
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Thanks to all for the help, I have a 7.62 socom mini on a f3 to my dealer now. When is surefire going to release the muzzle brakes for these? Anyone know? Good to hear you found one! I've been looking for muzzle brakes for the past month and can't find them in stock anywhere. My local shop that I'm using for my transfer had a good amount of the flash hiders, however.. |
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Posted: 4/23/2013 10:27:28 AM EDT
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I am on the hunt for those as well. I don't think Surefire is even making them at this point but I have nothing to confirm that.
I bought a flash hider just because. I've got plenty of rifles, I can put it on something. |
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Posted: 4/23/2013 1:17:53 PM EDT
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Check Sacramento black rifle. Got a brake from them last week. Got to me in two days
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Posted: 4/24/2013 2:57:01 PM EDT
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Thanks to all for the help, I have a 7.62 socom mini on a f3 to my dealer now. When is surefire going to release the muzzle brakes for these? Anyone know? Keep an eye out at ADCO, SK Arms, and Allen Arms Tactical. |
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Posted: 5/2/2013 9:52:04 AM EDT
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I'll keep an eye on them. Thanks for the pointers.
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Posted: 5/15/2013 4:23:13 PM EDT
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how much does the supressor colllar shroud the barrel? Dimension past the rear of the muzzle brake?
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Posted: 5/15/2013 5:13:13 PM EDT
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how much does the supressor colllar shroud the barrel? Dimension past the rear of the muzzle brake? The collar ends up being a bit muzzle-side of the thick spacer. |
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Posted: 5/15/2013 7:54:16 PM EDT
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how much does the supressor colllar shroud the barrel? Dimension past the rear of the muzzle brake? The collar ends up being a bit muzzle-side of the thick spacer. So the supressor is 1/4" or less past the rear most part of the muzzle brake? I'm just trying to figure out if a 14" rail is going to work with a 14.5" barrel/12" rail with a 12.5" barrel, etc. 14" rail/14.5" barrel http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/8741208409_cb5fe33e28_o.jpg |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 4:05:30 AM EDT
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how much does the supressor colllar shroud the barrel? Dimension past the rear of the muzzle brake? The collar ends up being a bit muzzle-side of the thick spacer. So the supressor is 1/4" or less past the rear most part of the muzzle brake? I'm just trying to figure out if a 14" rail is going to work with a 14.5" barrel/12" rail with a 12.5" barrel, etc. 14" rail/14.5" barrel http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/8741208409_cb5fe33e28_o.jpg It will barely clear on the MK18. |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 4:43:41 AM EDT
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how much does the supressor colllar shroud the barrel? Dimension past the rear of the muzzle brake? The collar ends up being a bit muzzle-side of the thick spacer. So the supressor is 1/4" or less past the rear most part of the muzzle brake? I'm just trying to figure out if a 14" rail is going to work with a 14.5" barrel/12" rail with a 12.5" barrel, etc. 14" rail/14.5" barrel http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/8741208409_cb5fe33e28_o.jpg It will barely clear on the MK18. Mk18 doesn't have a whole lot of room at the muzzle, anybody know exactly how much? |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 9:26:05 PM EDT
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24650948/Guns%20and%20Advertisement/3N1C0994-800.jpg
Going by this picture. It looks like it will work with the 14" rail. The supressor doesn't go past the mount. Answered my own question, but it may help out someone else. |
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Posted: 5/28/2013 12:20:09 PM EDT
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2 Questions and I apologize if I missed the answer somewhere along this thread.
1) What is the difference between the Socom-RC and Socom-SB? 2) I tried asking the surefire rep at the Houston NRA show but he was unsure. Will a Socom762-Mini be hearing safe on a 5.56 MK18 (10.3" barrel) (Same can as the 556 but slightly larger through hole) Or will I be best off just running a Socom556 can on it? Thanks 
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Posted: 5/28/2013 12:57:14 PM EDT
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2 Questions and I apologize if I missed the answer somewhere along this thread. 1) What is the difference between the Socom-RC and Socom-SB? 2) I tried asking the surefire rep at the Houston NRA show but he was unsure. Will a Socom762-Mini be hearing safe on a 5.56 MK18 (10.3" barrel) (Same can as the 556 but slightly larger through hole) Or will I be best off just running a Socom556 can on it? Thanks SB= Short barrel, not sure the physical differences, but I might look into it if its going on a Mk18. |
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Posted: 5/28/2013 1:08:00 PM EDT
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The SB has a larger bore. I'm not sure what the other differences are. The RC was specifically designed for 10.3" barrels so I wouldn't bother with an SB for that.
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Posted: 5/28/2013 1:28:18 PM EDT
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The SB has a larger bore. I'm not sure what the other differences are. The RC was specifically designed for 10.3" barrels so I wouldn't bother with an SB for that. Excellent! Thanks! Now does anyone know if I can run the 762 Mini and still be hearing safe? If I could and it would give me the option of knocking the sound down a bit on my AR10 SASS or building a 300blk down the road I would rather have one can that can be used on a few platforms... If it wont be hearing safe than I will stick with the 556-RC
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Posted: 5/28/2013 1:31:12 PM EDT
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I wouldn't call any silenced AR hearing safe, period. Especially SBRs. The action noise alone is too much. That said I would use a Mini in either caliber on an SBR without hesitation and if required to fire it without earpro I wouldn't dwell on it.
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Posted: 5/28/2013 7:44:28 PM EDT
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I wouldn't call any silenced AR hearing safe, period. Especially SBRs. The action noise alone is too much. That said I would use a Mini in either caliber on an SBR without hesitation and if required to fire it without earpro I wouldn't dwell on it. Correct. The fullsize RC is not truly hearing safe, it might be 140 or under at the muzzle but the shooters ear gets the ejection pop and action noise, those are not hearing safe from anyone's can imo. There is hearing safe, and there is hearing safer. Suppressors on ARs make them hearing safer. In an emergency, the mini will be a shit ton better than nothing. |
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Posted: 5/29/2013 7:04:14 AM EDT
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I wouldn't call any silenced AR hearing safe, period. Especially SBRs. The action noise alone is too much. That said I would use a Mini in either caliber on an SBR without hesitation and if required to fire it without earpro I wouldn't dwell on it. Correct. The fullsize RC is not truly hearing safe, it might be 140 or under at the muzzle but the shooters ear gets the ejection pop and action noise, those are not hearing safe from anyone's can imo. There is hearing safe, and there is hearing safer. Suppressors on ARs make them hearing safer. In an emergency, the mini will be a shit ton better than nothing. Well the "mini" in question is the 762 can, which is (according to the surefire rep) Identical to the 556 can, except a .30 cal thru hole instead of .223. So I would hope it would perform reasonably well. I am not looking for something Hollywood quiet... But if I lay out decent money I would like it to perform well, and should I ever have to fire my SBR indoors with out ear-pro, I would like to not ruin whats left of my hearing. If the Socom762-Mini on my MK18 will do that, I am sold. If not, I will get the 556-RC instead. |
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Posted: 5/29/2013 7:19:26 AM EDT
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To you the shooter, indoors, without a meter I bet they will be equally loud... I bet you after shooting would describe them both as "fucking loud", but if you shot without the can, you probably would not hear anyone even ask you how loud they were ;)
I think the 762RC and 762Mini would be a sweet combo. I did the 762RC and 556RC because I have a lot of 556 to shoot and that extra little but of sound reduction over time might be nice. But I would probably rank them all the same. For what it's worth, I've actually heard the 556RC indoors without muffs. Trust me, you would be in no position to say "um, sounds like the mini is a little louder or has a sharper tone", but it's still a million times better than unsuppressed. |
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Posted: 5/29/2013 8:02:01 AM EDT
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To you the shooter, indoors, without a meter I bet they will be equally loud... I bet you after shooting would describe them both as "fucking loud", but if you shot without the can, you probably would not hear anyone even ask you how loud they were ;) I think the 762RC and 762Mini would be a sweet combo. I did the 762RC and 556RC because I have a lot of 556 to shoot and that extra little but of sound reduction over time might be nice. But I would probably rank them all the same. For what it's worth, I've actually heard the 556RC indoors without muffs. Trust me, you would be in no position to say "um, sounds like the mini is a little louder or has a sharper tone", but it's still a million times better than unsuppressed. Sorry, I think I miss typed somewhere along the lines. I am in the market for just one can, to be primarilay for my SBR to help keep noise and concussion to a minimum. If I can use it on more than just my MK18, even better. Currently I own an AR10, and a MK18. Might consider buying a 6.5x47 bolt action, or building a 300blk upper down the road but it is very low on the priority list at the moment. So because I am trying to keep the length down on the MK18 as much as possible with out sacrificing Suppressor performance I am looking into buying either the Socom556-RC or Socom762-Mini as they are the same OAL, Dia., Weight, etc...
If I read what you typed correctly though, you are stating that they both will be loud and I would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two cans should the situation arise where I have to fire indoors with out earpro. If this is the case... If it was you and you were to buy just one can... Which would you buy? Or would you say F*ck it about the OAL and buy a full size Socom762-RC? Sooooo many options!!! 
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Posted: 5/29/2013 5:19:43 PM EDT
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To you the shooter, indoors, without a meter I bet they will be equally loud... I bet you after shooting would describe them both as "fucking loud", but if you shot without the can, you probably would not hear anyone even ask you how loud they were ;) I think the 762RC and 762Mini would be a sweet combo. I did the 762RC and 556RC because I have a lot of 556 to shoot and that extra little but of sound reduction over time might be nice. But I would probably rank them all the same. For what it's worth, I've actually heard the 556RC indoors without muffs. Trust me, you would be in no position to say "um, sounds like the mini is a little louder or has a sharper tone", but it's still a million times better than unsuppressed. Sorry, I think I miss typed somewhere along the lines. I am in the market for just one can, to be primarilay for my SBR to help keep noise and concussion to a minimum. If I can use it on more than just my MK18, even better. Currently I own an AR10, and a MK18. Might consider buying a 6.5x47 bolt action, or building a 300blk upper down the road but it is very low on the priority list at the moment. So because I am trying to keep the length down on the MK18 as much as possible with out sacrificing Suppressor performance I am looking into buying either the Socom556-RC or Socom762-Mini as they are the same OAL, Dia., Weight, etc...
If I read what you typed correctly though, you are stating that they both will be loud and I would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two cans should the situation arise where I have to fire indoors with out earpro. If this is the case... If it was you and you were to buy just one can... Which would you buy? Or would you say F*ck it about the OAL and buy a full size Socom762-RC? Sooooo many options!!! If it helps at all, I bought the fullsize 762 RC as I was very much in your situation. My plan is to add a 556RC in the future. |
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Posted: 5/29/2013 5:45:58 PM EDT
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Just do what I did and buy the 556RC. Then after you're 3 months into that wait decide that you also need the Socom 556-Mini for your MK18 as well.
Seriously though, I originally was drawn to the 762-Mini, but after hearing people report that it wasn't hearing safe on a 8-9" 300BLK upper it was a deal breaker for me. To me it was already a compromise for 5.56 suppression so to hear that it wasn't hearing safe on a caliber that I actually consider hearing safe with a can (unlike any 5.56), I lost interest. Given it's OAL I guess it's hard to suppress .30 cal adequately without more volume, but having to treat 300blk like a 5.56 mini can kind of defeats the purpose of having a 30 cal can for 300blk IMO. Just my opinion though. |
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Posted: 5/29/2013 11:09:55 PM EDT
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No centerfire supersonic rifle round will be hearing safe, period.
It doesn't matter what suppressor you use, or what rifle. The supersonic bullet flying through the air is always going to be somewhere around 140+ dB and by definition, not hearing safe. That said there's a world of difference between 165 dB of "unsafe" rifle noise and 142 dB of "unsafe" rifle noise. Its absolutely worth it to suppress any rifle, but hearing protection should always be worn. People who think their suppressed rifles are hearing safe either a) already have damaged hearing, and are unaware of additional damage they are doing b) don't realize that the absence of pain doesn't mean that damage isn't being done Also, adrenalin in a home defense / combat situation is not protective. |
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Posted: 5/30/2013 4:11:37 AM EDT
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I was referring to 300blk subs when speaking of the caliber being hearing safe, which apparantly it is not with the 7.62-mini.
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Posted: 5/30/2013 5:23:43 AM EDT
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hmm, Ok, so does anyone have a picture of a full size 762-RC on a SBR?
All I could find was this picture from google. 
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Posted: 5/30/2013 7:36:09 AM EDT
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I was referring to 300blk subs when speaking of the caliber being hearing safe, which apparantly it is not with the 7.62-mini. I can't imagine that. Subs should be very easily suppressed. |
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Posted: 5/30/2013 8:05:02 AM EDT
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I was referring to 300blk subs when speaking of the caliber being hearing safe, which apparantly it is not with the 7.62-mini. I can't imagine that. Subs should be very easily suppressed. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to have a more compact option than my SDN-6 for 300blk subs, but this is what I've *heard*. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/382370_Surefire_7_62_MINI_on_a__300_Blackout___What_about_with_the_5_56_mounts_.html |
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Posted: 5/30/2013 1:05:09 PM EDT
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Feel free to e-mail or call me at the office for help on what might work best for your Mk18 and other weapons. Having you list out from most important to least is a great way to start. A dedicated 5.56 suppressor for it you can't go wrong with the 556-RC. The Mini jumps the sound reduction down 3-4dB by giving up that inch of length if OAL is the most important and you can get by with less sound reduction. The 556-SB is on the same level as the MINI due to the larger bore and really is only for barrels under 10". The 762-RC will be at the same level as the 556-RC with 5.56 running through it but you add 2" in length. The length compensates for the over bore and the 762-Mini will give up more dB than the 556-SB will due to a even larger bore.
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Posted: 5/30/2013 1:18:29 PM EDT
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Garin, how do you feel about the 762MINI and subsonic 300BLK?
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Posted: 6/1/2013 5:46:32 AM EDT
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Do you know if the SOCOM 556-RC has been tested on a 10.4" HK416? I know that Fa556-212 was designed to work with the 416 and I just wanted to make sure that the 556-RC worked too. R. Marco Guerrero |
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Posted: 6/1/2013 8:13:14 AM EDT
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Garin, Do you know if the SOCOM 556-RC has been tested on a 10.4" HK416? I know that Fa556-212 was designed to work with the 416 and I just wanted to make sure that the 556-RC worked too. R. Marco Guerrero Not Garin, but... Iirc the 556-RC won the military contract to be the suppressor for the Mk18. Which is a 10.x 556, so baring any new crazy changes in the hk416's gas system from its DI counterparts, it seems to be a good-to-go for the 10.4" |
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Posted: 6/1/2013 8:17:51 AM EDT
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Oh, that's so cute. You think you're going to stop at one! Just plan on buying two, you almost certainly will. |
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Posted: 6/1/2013 10:00:59 AM EDT
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Garin, how do you feel about the 762MINI and subsonic 300BLK? i'd like to know this as well. i'm putting together a 300blk upper with a noveske 8.2" barrel and had planned on picking up a 762 mini for it. after 5 months of looking around i found one locally but had talked myself out of it in favor of a sdn-6 because of what i've read about the 762 mini and 300blk subs. |
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Posted: 6/1/2013 1:49:59 PM EDT
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Oh, that's so cute. You think you're going to stop at one! Just plan on buying two, you almost certainly will. Lmao! Well that's what I am trying to talk myself into! But I know it'll turn into a can for the larger rig, one for the SBR, and one for the pistol... But I don't want to think about all that just yet! 
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Posted: 6/5/2013 2:39:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2013 7:55:15 AM EDT
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No centerfire supersonic rifle round will be hearing safe, period. It doesn't matter what suppressor you use, or what rifle. The supersonic bullet flying through the air is always going to be somewhere around 140+ dB and by definition, not hearing safe. That said there's a world of difference between 165 dB of "unsafe" rifle noise and 142 dB of "unsafe" rifle noise. Its absolutely worth it to suppress any rifle, but hearing protection should always be worn. People who think their suppressed rifles are hearing safe either a) already have damaged hearing, and are unaware of additional damage they are doing b) don't realize that the absence of pain doesn't mean that damage isn't being done Also, adrenalin in a home defense / combat situation is not protective. I can shoot suppressed without losing the ability to hear what's going on around me using 5.56 from a 10.5" gun. That, to me, is 100% worth it. The rest of what you said is spot-on, too. I know I shouldn't, but sometimes I do shoot without ears on. I agree it's damaging. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:31:48 PM EDT
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Bump,
Anyone got some hands on time yet? |
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Posted: 8/2/2013 7:23:19 PM EDT
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Here is a video showing the 762RC, 556RC, and 556Mini
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