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Posted: 5/27/2018 10:58:48 PM EDT
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Gas picture as promised. Sorry, been busy.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2018 8:40:01 AM EDT
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I’m tempted to jump on one of these SBRs deals from botach here to scratch my polymer rifle itch without paying scar prices. Those with sbr rifles are they worth it st $899?
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Posted: 5/29/2018 9:37:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
I’m tempted to jump on one of these SBRs deals from botach here to scratch my polymer rifle itch without paying scar prices. Those with sbr rifles are they worth it st $899? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2018 10:27:28 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
I’m tempted to jump on one of these SBRs deals from botach here to scratch my polymer rifle itch without paying scar prices. Those with sbr rifles are they worth it st $899? 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2018 10:33:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattgunguy:
Gas picture as promised. Sorry, been busy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/239279/0527182154-557430.jpg |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2018 11:44:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AKDoc]
[#6]
For those who have suppressed them any issues other than being kinda gassy ?
BTW just ordered SBR from Botch. For $899 I thought what the heck, worth a try. |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 1:15:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
For those who have suppressed them any issues other than being kinda gassy ? BTW just ordered SBR from Botch. For $899 I thought what the heck, worth a try. |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 2:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff: Thanks for the picture, looks pretty simple. I am curious as to the size of the gas port in the barrel, and the size difference between the N & S settings. |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 2:42:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Nope, just gassy. I wish there was a suppressor setting, most modern rifles nowadays should have one. So if you can control the size of the gas ports (assuming you needed to enlarge them for shorter barrel), you could do Standard=enough to cycle with silencer, 2 ports/ Nonstandard= enough to cycle without silencer. |
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Posted: 5/29/2018 2:46:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Frost7]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
I’m tempted to jump on one of these SBRs deals from botach here to scratch my polymer rifle itch without paying scar prices. Those with sbr rifles are they worth it st $899? |
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USA
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Posted: 5/30/2018 2:36:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GaryT1776]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frost7:
Literally the only thing glaringly wrong with the ARX (to me) is the barrel is excessively long which adds much more front weight than the rifle needs. Which it has to be because of the dumb NFA. SBR fixes that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frost7:
Originally Posted By AKDoc:
I’m tempted to jump on one of these SBRs deals from botach here to scratch my polymer rifle itch without paying scar prices. Those with sbr rifles are they worth it st $899? THE BAD ... - The charging handle is very small, and you'll scrape your hand on the brass deflector every time you rack the gun. - The gun "feels" cheap. Obviously this is really subjective. THE GOOD ... + For $900 this is a very nice rifle. They include a nice soft case, sling, sight tool, weird crappy plastic BUIS, STEEL 30rd PB mag. + The ARX is HIGHLY innovative. I'm right handed, but appreciate the ease of converting it ... completely including ejection ... to the "wrong side". I'm not sure why these haven't sold really well at the sub-$1000 price point. They're innovative piston drive guns from a very reputable manufacturer. I can only guess they're not more popular because: A) They're not an AR-15; B) They're not a $500 AR-15; C) They feel a little toy-like. My summary ... HECK YES these are worth $900. Remember, it wasn't that long ago when a rack grade Colt 6920 was over $1000. $900 for an innovative Beretta with a bunch of FUNCTIONAL swag is a no-brainer. |
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Posted: 5/30/2018 3:48:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: glklvr]
[#12]
I feel the same. It will never replace my go to AR, or my backup AR.
It is a cleverly designed piston rifle with lots of features, by a major manufacturer, in a caliber I have and uses mags I have, for under a grand. I'm right handed, but I moved the charging handle over to the right side so it wouldn't get caught on anything and would be on the same side as my AK. The charging handle extension is a must. I'm seriously tempted to get the FDE version, due to the discontinuation rumors and better trigger. |
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Posted: 5/30/2018 5:46:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776:
I'm not sure why these haven't sold really well at the sub-$1000 price point. They're innovative piston drive guns from a very reputable manufacturer. I can only guess they're not more popular because: A) They're not an AR-15; B) They're not a $500 AR-15; C) They feel a little toy-like. My summary ... HECK YES these are worth $900. Remember, it wasn't that long ago when a rack grade Colt 6920 was over $1000. $900 for an innovative Beretta with a bunch of FUNCTIONAL swag is a no-brainer. I think the main issue is inertia. They released late, and at $1700? They went nowhere. There's no word of mouth anymore, and the $900 price seems more like a close-out than a new retail. They're finally at a good price and Beretta presents them as if they're discontinued or nearly so. They spent a lot of money to bring the rifle to life, they need to give it a second chance at the new price and see how it goes. |
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Posted: 5/30/2018 8:33:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr:
I feel the same. It will never replace my go to AR, or my backup AR. It is a cleverly designed piston rifle with lots of features, by a major manufacturer, in a caliber I have and uses mags I have, for under a grand. I'm right handed, but I moved the charging handle over to the right side so it wouldn't get caught on anything and would be on the same side as my AK. The charging handle extension is a must. I'm seriously tempted to get the FDE version, due to the discontinuation rumors and better trigger. The FDE was the exact same except ... 1) It didn't' include BUIS; 2) It had a true pic rail on the lower instead of the Italian grenade launcher interface. I couldn't tell any difference in the trigger. |
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Posted: 5/30/2018 8:35:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NightOwl: They make the little bolt handle extension. Along with the rail-cover thing, those should come standard and they could leave off the sights. I think the main issue is inertia. They released late, and at $1700? They went nowhere. There's no word of mouth anymore, and the $900 price seems more like a close-out than a new retail. They're finally at a good price and Beretta presents them as if they're discontinued or nearly so. They spent a lot of money to bring the rifle to life, they need to give it a second chance at the new price and see how it goes. I'll end up ordering another one, anyway 
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OK, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2018 7:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: My Form-4 days ended about two decades ago (don't want to deal with the hassle again) so I'm not personally interested in a SBR. However, I can speak to the standard 16" barrel version. I've had three of them. THE BAD ... - The charging handle is very small, and you'll scrape your hand on the brass deflector every time you rack the gun. - The gun "feels" cheap. Obviously this is really subjective. THE GOOD ... + For $900 this is a very nice rifle. They include a nice soft case, sling, sight tool, weird crappy plastic BUIS, STEEL 30rd PB mag. + The ARX is HIGHLY innovative. I'm right handed, but appreciate the ease of converting it ... completely including ejection ... to the "wrong side". I'm not sure why these haven't sold really well at the sub-$1000 price point. They're innovative piston drive guns from a very reputable manufacturer. I can only guess they're not more popular because: A) They're not an AR-15; B) They're not a $500 AR-15; C) They feel a little toy-like. My summary ... HECK YES these are worth $900. Remember, it wasn't that long ago when a rack grade Colt 6920 was over $1000. $900 for an innovative Beretta with a bunch of FUNCTIONAL swag is a no-brainer. The price of extra parts and their availability. Proprietary parts. And the current worrry of “will it soon be discontinued”. Being discontinued worries me the most. I got screwed by Sig with the 556 Classic when they discontinued it. If anything breaks on it, all I have left is a parts gun. What fun is that? |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 7:44:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firecop203: I have one too and like like it a lot since I’m left handed. More “bad” considerations. The price of extra parts and their availability. Proprietary parts. And the current worrry of “will it soon be discontinued”. Being discontinued worries me the most. I got screwed by Sig with the 556 Classic when they discontinued it. If anything breaks on it, all I have left is a parts gun. What fun is that? |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 4:47:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firecop203: I have one too and like like it a lot since I’m left handed. More “bad” considerations. The price of extra parts and their availability. Proprietary parts. And the current worrry of “will it soon be discontinued”. Being discontinued worries me the most. I got screwed by Sig with the 556 Classic when they discontinued it. If anything breaks on it, all I have left is a parts gun. What fun is that? |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 5:39:08 PM EDT
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Wheres the current best place to get one at the 899 price?
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Posted: 6/1/2018 7:08:53 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1:
Wheres the current best place to get one at the 899 price? Rifle = Academy (or Gunbroker) |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 7:10:32 PM EDT
[#21]
What are people paying for SBR barrels now?
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Posted: 6/4/2018 11:21:49 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mdavis:
SBR = Botach Rifle = Academy (or Gunbroker) |
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Posted: 6/4/2018 11:23:03 AM EDT
[#23]
$899 is the new norm
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Posted: 6/4/2018 6:43:51 PM EDT
[#24]
I hate you guys....just picked mine up from the dealer. I really wish the 10" barrels would start showing up, if they ever do.
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Posted: 6/4/2018 10:47:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: vellnueve]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flthy_McNsty:
I hate you guys....just picked mine up from the dealer. I really wish the 10" barrels would start showing up, if they ever do. |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 12:02:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
If they ever do? They were plentiful a couple years back. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Flthy_McNsty:
I hate you guys....just picked mine up from the dealer. I really wish the 10" barrels would start showing up, if they ever do. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: Brownells carries a bunch of spare parts. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/barrel-assembly-16-arx-100-prod68646.aspx |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2018 3:20:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AKDoc]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firecop203: I know. I’ve bought a few from them. Can’t believe the price they have listed for a 16” barrel. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/barrel-assembly-16-arx-100-prod68646.aspx |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:34:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
Thats crazy. Especially since you can buy a new ARX for $870 at academy all day. Just buy a replacement gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
Originally Posted By Firecop203: I know. I've bought a few from them. Can't believe the price they have listed for a 16" barrel. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/barrel-assembly-16-arx-100-prod68646.aspx Nope. Still retards there. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2018 5:33:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Speaking of SBR anybody gotten an SBR from Botach lately? I got mine a week ago and hope to get shipping notice to my dealer soon, I have heard most people got theirs in a couple weeks.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 6/7/2018 7:55:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc: Thats crazy. Especially since you can buy a new ARX for $870 at academy all day. Just buy a replacement gun. 
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Posted: 6/7/2018 4:49:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
If they ever do? They were plentiful a couple years back. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Flthy_McNsty:
I hate you guys....just picked mine up from the dealer. I really wish the 10" barrels would start showing up, if they ever do. |
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Posted: 6/7/2018 6:17:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coctailer:
Aren’t the barrels like $400 now IF you can find them? |
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Posted: 6/7/2018 7:44:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
Speaking of SBR anybody gotten an SBR from Botach lately? I got mine a week ago and hope to get shipping notice to my dealer soon, I have heard most people got theirs in a couple weeks. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2018 10:14:41 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mdavis:
Yes. Mine took about three weeks to be shipped to my dealer. Not a bad Form 3 transfer time. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2018 11:42:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AKDoc]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mdavis:
Yes. Mine took about three weeks to be shipped to my dealer. Not a bad Form 3 transfer time. Also I am looking for the lower rail adapter but nobody has any in stock at the moment. Anybody know where I can get one? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2018 1:46:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Went ahead and ordered a FDE ARX100 form Sportsman Outdoor Super Store. This place is a bad influence. They are on sale for $999 and I really wanted a FDE one over the black $878 deal at academy.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2018 5:44:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blast]
[#38]
We need the $878 ARX 100 Pistol w/SB brace !!!!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/14/2018 10:41:18 AM EDT
[#39]
I ordered the FDE one also, mainly to get that two stage like trigger. here is a pic of my ARX100 SBR (Not shown is YHM ULT30 with silicone cover):
Also if spare parts are needed that is a plus. I will file form 1 on this one too. I had the original 16" barrel cut down and the ports massaged and it works great, but I am not going to cut the new barrel down, just going to swap back and forth etc.... Maybe ARX owners will get lucky and barrels will be available at the reasonable price of a couple years ago. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/15/2018 9:33:41 AM EDT
[#40]
Got to play with my FDE ARX100 yesterday. Still waiting on my Botch SBR. Im really liking the ergonomics actually on this rifle. Cant wait to shoot it. If I end up liking it as much as I think I will I might need to pickup one more while the price is right.
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Posted: 6/15/2018 1:45:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKDoc:
Got to play with my FDE ARX100 yesterday. Still waiting on my Botch SBR. Im really liking the ergonomics actually on this rifle. Cant wait to shoot it. If I end up liking it as much as I think I will I might need to pickup one more while the price is right. |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 4:06:52 PM EDT
[#42]
I don’t have another ARX to compare it too but it’s a 2 stage. Not terrible. Clean break.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2018 3:37:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AKDoc]
[#43]
My Botch SBR shipped today at exactly 3 weeks from order time. Pretty happy with purchase for $899. Might get another just to have a spare short barrel.
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Posted: 6/21/2018 10:11:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr:
Does it have the better trigger? I'm tempted but knowing my luck I'd spend the grand ad get one with the same trigger I have now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr:
Originally Posted By AKDoc:
Got to play with my FDE ARX100 yesterday. Still waiting on my Botch SBR. Im really liking the ergonomics actually on this rifle. Cant wait to shoot it. If I end up liking it as much as I think I will I might need to pickup one more while the price is right. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 11:10:14 PM EDT
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Some optical options I've run through with with various degrees of likeability for myself.
Aimpoint PRO. Really didn't care for this to much. Would cowitness well for me with the factory BUIS. 
The old stand by Elcan M145. Heavy as heck & built like a tank. I love this thing to the point I'm thinking of a second ARX in FDE to put it on. 
Then there's what I've settled on. Ta31F-G in The factory Ta51 mount. Got it for my Colt a4, but had troubles with eye relief with the a2 stock. With the shorter stock of the ARX, I'm in love. Could use a smidge thicker mount to clear the factory BUIS. Works well though.  Also tried a scope. Yeah, that was stupid. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2018 10:14:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattgunguy:
Some optical options I've run through with with various degrees of likeability for myself. Aimpoint PRO. Really didn't care for this to much. Would cowitness well for me with the factory BUIS. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/239279/0621182120-583634.jpg The old stand by Elcan M145. Heavy as heck & built like a tank. I love this thing to the point I'm thinking of a second ARX in FDE to put it on. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/239279/0621182125-583641.jpg Then there's what I've settled on. Ta31F-G in The factory Ta51 mount. Got it for my Colt a4, but had troubles with eye relief with the a2 stock. With the shorter stock of the ARX, I'm in love. Could use a smidge thicker mount to clear the factory BUIS. Works well though. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/239279/0621182118-583650.jpg Also tried a scope. Yeah, that was stupid. I took the factory sights off a long time ago and tried out the Magpul Pro sights, but I found out that the front sight would fold about half way down while firing. So, I am currently not using any BUIS on my ARX. |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 11:25:26 AM EDT
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I tried about five different BUIS', including the much vaunted LPA flip ups. CZ scorpion sights were too low for me, the factory are just crazy high, and everything else falls in between, mostly AR height sights. I have finally settled on Troy micros. They seem to be the correct height.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2018 12:42:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Troy Micros are the way that I would go if they would sell them in a combination that I liked.
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Posted: 6/22/2018 1:12:17 PM EDT
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I'm a big fan of H&K type drumslike on a Hk91. Won't work here though. Thought about.Matech rear as I really like them, but I don't know what to put up front though.
My only real complaint with the ARX is the lack of a fixed front sight. I prefer a fixed front on a regular Ar as well, one less thing to loose. Never have been able to get on the "bolt everything on a rail" bandwagon. Course I still had an a2 in the army & optics were for snipers. So I'll never be comfortable running no irons at all. |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 5:19:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattgunguy:
I'm a big fan of H&K type drumslike on a Hk91. Won't work here though. Thought about.Matech rear as I really like them, but I don't know what to put up front though. My only real complaint with the ARX is the lack of a fixed front sight. I prefer a fixed front on a regular Ar as well, one less thing to loose. Never have been able to get on the "bolt everything on a rail" bandwagon. Course I still had an a2 in the army & optics were for snipers. So I'll never be comfortable running no irons at all. 
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