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Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:23:31 PM EDT
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I wondered who would be the first to grind it off. :-) I have considered doing the same.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:32:26 PM EDT
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That's how it should be, looks good. Would you have attempted that if the lower was the serialized part?
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:33:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Labored through another round of fun today. I can't wait for the micro dot and PWS FSC brake to arrive,

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Since you have them all how does the ARX compare?

I know the technical differences. I'm mostly looking for a comparison of feel and usability in your opinion.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:37:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


That's how it should be, looks good. Would you have attempted that if the lower was the serialized part?
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That's how it should be, looks good. Would you have attempted that if the lower was the serialized part?


Probably. I didn't really give it much thought. I've screwed up more expensive guns doing less.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:38:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.
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What about the ARX is steering you away from it?
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:40:59 PM EDT
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That makes two of us.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 4:45:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


Since you have them all how does the ARX compare?
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Labored through another round of fun today. I can't wait for the micro dot and PWS FSC brake to arrive,

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/f3229858d170c38161ea12d5d46de026_zps98c593af.jpg


Since you have them all how does the ARX compare?


They're all different. I'm still getting the ARX setup the way I want it. I need to get the FSC brake before comparing the recoil, albeit limited to begin with.

Out of that group it's hard to pick a favorite. The ARX is the definitely lightest.
Link Posted: 9/1/2014 5:43:02 PM EDT
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Is anyone else wondering which plastics expert will be the go to guy for doing this?



You could stop about a 1/2" short on the picatinny rail so that part of the cover could be modified and reused to cover the back.



I realize Beretta plans to release a slide on rail but I think it will make an already bloated gun fatter.

ETA,  And since they're at it cut the front side rails down to three rails per section to create a more open forearm.

Link Posted: 9/2/2014 8:05:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.
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I feel your pain. It's been probably four years for me. I gave up waiting in Summer of 2012 and bought a LWRC M6A2 instead without any buyer's remorse.
Link Posted: 9/5/2014 4:51:08 PM EDT
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In an effort to make a little more hand room, I modified the side rails.  I didn't commit to completely milling off the rear rail lug (yet) but I did end up chopping the rail a bit.



Link Posted: 9/5/2014 9:04:53 PM EDT
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The unfortunate bit is that those smaller rails are still right where I want to put my hand when shooting it. I'm a bit irked that they initially said the side rails were removable. Well yeah, they technically are, but then the front end falls apart. It's like saying the AR has a removable barrel nut. Technically true, but misleading.
Link Posted: 9/5/2014 11:53:01 PM EDT
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The unfortunate bit is that those smaller rails are still right where I want to put my hand when shooting it. I'm a bit irked that they initially said the side rails were removable. Well yeah, they technically are, but then the front end falls apart. It's like saying the AR has a removable barrel nut. Technically true, but misleading.
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True, but its better than before.  My thumb now rest naturally without hitting the rail.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 1:23:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 1:36:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fig:


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.
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Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 2:56:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.


Well, the current rifle we are being sold is actually the V2.1 version.  
The genuine V3 with the larger upper cooling holes ( and only Beretta knows what else is improved ) is only sold to Gov and Mil buyers looking for a full auto rifle.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 3:26:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.


If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 3:44:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bullet_:


Well, the current rifle we are being sold is actually the V2.1 version.  
The genuine V3 with the larger upper cooling holes ( and only Beretta knows what else is improved ) is only sold to Gov and Mil buyers looking for a full auto rifle.
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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.


Well, the current rifle we are being sold is actually the V2.1 version.  
The genuine V3 with the larger upper cooling holes ( and only Beretta knows what else is improved ) is only sold to Gov and Mil buyers looking for a full auto rifle.


True, externally the only difference between them is the large vent holes and a bayonet lug.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 3:48:20 PM EDT
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If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well.
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.


If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well.


You will probably also have it modified before I even have a chance to see one in person.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 8:07:52 PM EDT
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If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well.
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.


What about the ARX is steering you away from it?


I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get.  It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here.


That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation.


If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well.


Pretty much why I'm holding off.  There's also been mention of an improved stock with cheek riser in the works.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 2:32:05 AM EDT
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I like my ARX better than my Tavor. The poly feel stronger more solid. The Tavor had great balance and is very compact but it's not as light  or as accurate as my ARX.


Link Posted: 9/10/2014 8:50:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
In an effort to make a little more hand room, I modified the side rails.  I didn't commit to completely milling off the rear rail lug (yet) but I did end up chopping the rail a bit.

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/7f5c7cfce191c2efd874c083f2d4e24e_zps3b0602ea.jpg

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Try tbostic possibly? The guy that does hk g36 conversions from SL8s
Link Posted: 9/10/2014 11:45:46 PM EDT
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+1 Tom does excellent work!
Link Posted: 9/13/2014 8:21:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FullAssault:
I like my ARX better than my Tavor. The poly feel stronger more solid. The Tavor had great balance and is very compact but it's not as light  or as accurate as my ARX.

<a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg</a><a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg</a>
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Originally Posted By FullAssault:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100.  Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead.
I like my ARX better than my Tavor. The poly feel stronger more solid. The Tavor had great balance and is very compact but it's not as light  or as accurate as my ARX.

<a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg</a><a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg</a>


Grrrrrrrr  Now I gotta buy both!  I'll buy the Tavor this year and get the ARX next year. Thanks for your input!  I want a cheek riser on the ARX, please please please Beretta do it!
Link Posted: 9/19/2014 12:28:35 AM EDT
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/17/gun-review-beretta-arx-100-review/


Lots of in the comments section, as with any comments section on anything.
Link Posted: 9/19/2014 9:22:31 PM EDT
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/17/gun-review-beretta-arx-100-review/


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Not the most inspiring review.
Link Posted: 9/19/2014 10:57:28 PM EDT
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Not the most inspiring review.
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/17/gun-review-beretta-arx-100-review/


Lots of in the comments section, as with any comments section on anything.

Not the most inspiring review.


An honest one though.
The observation that the ARX sights make Magpul MBUS look like Knight's armament sights is funny.
He's also right that the CH is too small and the front side rails and it's mounting need to both come off.

His complaints about the disassembly however, come off as poorly as those who complain that the ARX didn't anachronistically copy the AR15's controls like the SCAR does.
Link Posted: 9/19/2014 11:03:34 PM EDT
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The reviewer was totally discredited as soon as he said that the ambi features were "gimmicks".






Yes,  I am left handed.




"Also, we appreciate the gimmicks such as the ejection selector and swappable charging handle:"

 
Link Posted: 9/19/2014 11:16:14 PM EDT
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Missed that comment.  You're right, his opinion that LH mirroring is a "gimmick" is outdated at best and foolish at worst.
Link Posted: 9/21/2014 4:34:17 PM EDT
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I'm not that interested in any gun review where they only fire 180 shots, and were planning on firing less but had to return to the range because they forgot to take pics the first time.  They think 100 rounds is an adequate test of a new combat rifle?  What a joke.
Link Posted: 9/23/2014 10:57:45 AM EDT
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For anyone that wants to mess with the rails on the ARX-100 I just received this in an e-mail from Beretta.


"The top rail should never be removed. It is a Picatinny rail, and the screws are held in place with a red+ type loctite.

The side rails are also Picatinny, and they are held on with blue loctite. They may be removed if necessary. They should be retorqued to between 25 and 30 inch pounds.

The screws are Torx."
Link Posted: 9/24/2014 10:24:53 PM EDT
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I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3.
Link Posted: 9/24/2014 11:53:53 PM EDT
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I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3.
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the one thing I would really like to  have off the 160 is the flash hider, beretta said its a different thread pitch and wouldn't work on the u.s ARX. I noticed on all the pics of the 160A3 the roll pin is missing from the rail also.
Link Posted: 9/25/2014 12:19:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3.
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How did you get that opportunity?

Did the one you handled have the roll pin under the rear of the rail?
Link Posted: 9/25/2014 9:24:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


How did you get that opportunity?

Did the one you handled have the roll pin under the rear of the rail?
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3.


How did you get that opportunity?

Did the one you handled have the roll pin under the rear of the rail?


They had one on display at an exposition on base. I honestly didn't even look for the roll pin.

One thing I really did like was the add on larger charging handle. Obviously has to be removed to swap sides, but should alleviate that complain for pretty much all the naysayers.
Link Posted: 9/25/2014 5:25:29 PM EDT
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Missed that comment.  You're right, his opinion that LH mirroring is a "gimmick" is outdated at best and foolish at worst.
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Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure.  In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous.  As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed.


ETA:  Lets hope Geissele makes a trigger for this thing.  Honestly I though my SCARs stock trigger was bad (and it is, which is why I got a super SCAR trigger for it), but this trigger, it's ass.
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Originally Posted By AEROMechanic:

Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure.  In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous.  As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed.


ETA:  Lets hope Geissele makes a trigger for this thing.  Honestly I though my SCARs stock trigger was bad (and it is, which is why I got a super SCAR trigger for it), but this trigger, it's ass.
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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Missed that comment.  You're right, his opinion that LH mirroring is a "gimmick" is outdated at best and foolish at worst.

Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure.  In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous.  As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed.


ETA:  Lets hope Geissele makes a trigger for this thing.  Honestly I though my SCARs stock trigger was bad (and it is, which is why I got a super SCAR trigger for it), but this trigger, it's ass.


LH ejection is really useful for vehicle use.
Further, the twin extractor/ejector with huge springs is theoretically far more reliable than classic designs.  We'll see if it actually pays off.

Can't wait for a Geissele trigger.  I have the Super dynamic Combat ( flat trigger ) on my AR pistol and won't be going back to lesser stuff.
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Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure.  In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous.  As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed.
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I'm a southpaw and if you use a support-hand-forward type of grip, my AR and ACR both fire hot brass directly into my right forearm, especially the AR.  I either have to use a less-optimal grip or wear a long-sleeve shirt when shooting those with purpose.  I'm a big fan of leftward-eject.

In ARX news, my Form 1 was approved and my receiver s on its way to Ident for engraving. :)
Link Posted: 10/13/2014 9:07:31 AM EDT
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MAC's full review:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-iw24cAhw[/youtube]

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No idea why it won't embed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-iw24cAhw
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MAC's full review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-iw24cAhw

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Link Posted: 10/13/2014 3:21:40 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting that!

I need to see more of the factory tour though.
Link Posted: 10/13/2014 5:26:06 PM EDT
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Watched it and I like what he had to say (usually do). Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the rifle. I've had a chance to handle and shoot one so i'll probably pick one up once i have some free cash that the SO won't notice missing.
Link Posted: 10/13/2014 11:13:21 PM EDT
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How is it for smoke/gas being vented toward the shooter? Standard and suppressed?
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How is it for smoke/gas being vented toward the shooter? Standard and suppressed?
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Unsuppressed you won't notice any gas.

 



Suppressed you'll get gas in the face like most every other semi-auto I've fired.  Some will measure degrees of gas in the face, I really don't. If you fire 30 round fairly quickly you're going to get a little teary eyed.  :)
Link Posted: 10/14/2014 8:36:38 PM EDT
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Mac, did the Beretta guys give you any scoop on the ETA of short barrels?  I have an approved Form 1 for mine and it's at Ident Marking being engraved right now.  If factory barrels are two months out I would wait, but if they have no idea when they are coming, I'll do the chop myself.  I've tried asking them in a couple ways and never get a response.
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Mac, did the Beretta guys give you any scoop on the ETA of short barrels?  I have an approved Form 1 for mine and it's at Ident Marking being engraved right now.  If factory barrels are two months out I would wait, but if they have no idea when they are coming, I'll do the chop myself.  I've tried asking them in a couple ways and never get a response.
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This would be my next gun if factory short barrels came out.
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Mac, did the Beretta guys give you any scoop on the ETA of short barrels?  I have an approved Form 1 for mine and it's at Ident Marking being engraved right now.  If factory barrels are two months out I would wait, but if they have no idea when they are coming, I'll do the chop myself.  I've tried asking them in a couple ways and never get a response.
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No comment on delivery dates. Even if they did give an estimate, those dates would likely shift... that's how it seems to go in manufacturing.

 
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Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place.
Link Posted: 10/15/2014 7:52:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place.
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I wonder if they are actually trying to make the trigger feel better or if it is just the luck of the draw as it is with standard mil-spec style AR triggers.
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