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I wondered who would be the first to grind it off. :-) I have considered doing the same.
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Also spent some time with a file. http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/5d87b869f019d53effa7cb89da306e6c_zps91fc939d.jpg View Quote That's how it should be, looks good. Would you have attempted that if the lower was the serialized part? |
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Labored through another round of fun today. I can't wait for the micro dot and PWS FSC brake to arrive, http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/f3229858d170c38161ea12d5d46de026_zps98c593af.jpg View Quote Since you have them all how does the ARX compare? I know the technical differences. I'm mostly looking for a comparison of feel and usability in your opinion. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
That's how it should be, looks good. Would you have attempted that if the lower was the serialized part? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Also spent some time with a file. http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/5d87b869f019d53effa7cb89da306e6c_zps91fc939d.jpg That's how it should be, looks good. Would you have attempted that if the lower was the serialized part? Probably. I didn't really give it much thought. I've screwed up more expensive guns doing less. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Since you have them all how does the ARX compare? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Labored through another round of fun today. I can't wait for the micro dot and PWS FSC brake to arrive, http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/f3229858d170c38161ea12d5d46de026_zps98c593af.jpg Since you have them all how does the ARX compare? They're all different. I'm still getting the ARX setup the way I want it. I need to get the FSC brake before comparing the recoil, albeit limited to begin with. Out of that group it's hard to pick a favorite. The ARX is the definitely lightest. |
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The unfortunate bit is that those smaller rails are still right where I want to put my hand when shooting it. I'm a bit irked that they initially said the side rails were removable. Well yeah, they technically are, but then the front end falls apart. It's like saying the AR has a removable barrel nut. Technically true, but misleading.
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Originally Posted By Conqueror:
The unfortunate bit is that those smaller rails are still right where I want to put my hand when shooting it. I'm a bit irked that they initially said the side rails were removable. Well yeah, they technically are, but then the front end falls apart. It's like saying the AR has a removable barrel nut. Technically true, but misleading. View Quote True, but its better than before. My thumb now rest naturally without hitting the rail. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
What about the ARX is steering you away from it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. What about the ARX is steering you away from it? I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. |
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Originally Posted By Fig:
I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. What about the ARX is steering you away from it? I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. What about the ARX is steering you away from it? I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. Well, the current rifle we are being sold is actually the V2.1 version. The genuine V3 with the larger upper cooling holes ( and only Beretta knows what else is improved ) is only sold to Gov and Mil buyers looking for a full auto rifle. |
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Check your privilege.
Originally Posted By Rich_V: I check it daily and top it off as needed. |
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. What about the ARX is steering you away from it? I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well. |
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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Well, the current rifle we are being sold is actually the V2.1 version. The genuine V3 with the larger upper cooling holes ( and only Beretta knows what else is improved ) is only sold to Gov and Mil buyers looking for a full auto rifle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. What about the ARX is steering you away from it? I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. Well, the current rifle we are being sold is actually the V2.1 version. The genuine V3 with the larger upper cooling holes ( and only Beretta knows what else is improved ) is only sold to Gov and Mil buyers looking for a full auto rifle. True, externally the only difference between them is the large vent holes and a bayonet lug. |
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. What about the ARX is steering you away from it? I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well. You will probably also have it modified before I even have a chance to see one in person. |
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sunnybean:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. What about the ARX is steering you away from it? I have a feeling that it will be greatly improved in a year or so, that's the one I'll get. It's sort of like when Sig first came out with the fish scale 556 and then improved the design. I see it here. That's pretty much what I'm waiting to see also, plus it will probably be available in FDE as well. Though I really wonder how much more they can improve a design that is already in it's third generation. If/when they are released I will buy one of those as well. Pretty much why I'm holding off. There's also been mention of an improved stock with cheek riser in the works. |
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Originally Posted By sunnybean:
In an effort to make a little more hand room, I modified the side rails. I didn't commit to completely milling off the rear rail lug (yet) but I did end up chopping the rail a bit. http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/7f5c7cfce191c2efd874c083f2d4e24e_zps3b0602ea.jpg http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/AssSupt/ARX100/94678ed4d8cee263bc4293c430ff0be6_zps44206320.jpg View Quote Try tbostic possibly? The guy that does hk g36 conversions from SL8s |
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+1 Tom does excellent work!
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Originally Posted By FullAssault:
I like my ARX better than my Tavor. The poly feel stronger more solid. The Tavor had great balance and is very compact but it's not as light or as accurate as my ARX. <a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg</a><a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FullAssault:
Originally Posted By Fig:
I've been waiting for two years for the ARX 100. Damn it, I think I'm getting a Tavor instead. <a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140710_141928_zpswmggasxd.jpg</a><a href="http://s847.photobucket.com/user/samuraijesse/media/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/20130612_103054_zps100b129b.jpg</a> Grrrrrrrr Now I gotta buy both! I'll buy the Tavor this year and get the ARX next year. Thanks for your input! I want a cheek riser on the ARX, please please please Beretta do it! |
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/17/gun-review-beretta-arx-100-review/
Lots of in the comments section, as with any comments section on anything. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/17/gun-review-beretta-arx-100-review/ Lots of in the comments section, as with any comments section on anything. View Quote Not the most inspiring review. |
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Originally Posted By TheKahn:
Not the most inspiring review. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheKahn:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/17/gun-review-beretta-arx-100-review/ Lots of in the comments section, as with any comments section on anything. Not the most inspiring review. An honest one though. The observation that the ARX sights make Magpul MBUS look like Knight's armament sights is funny. He's also right that the CH is too small and the front side rails and it's mounting need to both come off. His complaints about the disassembly however, come off as poorly as those who complain that the ARX didn't anachronistically copy the AR15's controls like the SCAR does. |
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Check your privilege.
Originally Posted By Rich_V: I check it daily and top it off as needed. |
The reviewer was totally discredited as soon as he said that the ambi features were "gimmicks".
Yes, I am left handed. "Also, we appreciate the gimmicks such as the ejection selector and swappable charging handle:" |
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Missed that comment. You're right, his opinion that LH mirroring is a "gimmick" is outdated at best and foolish at worst.
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Check your privilege.
Originally Posted By Rich_V: I check it daily and top it off as needed. |
I'm not that interested in any gun review where they only fire 180 shots, and were planning on firing less but had to return to the range because they forgot to take pics the first time. They think 100 rounds is an adequate test of a new combat rifle? What a joke.
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For anyone that wants to mess with the rails on the ARX-100 I just received this in an e-mail from Beretta.
"The top rail should never be removed. It is a Picatinny rail, and the screws are held in place with a red+ type loctite. The side rails are also Picatinny, and they are held on with blue loctite. They may be removed if necessary. They should be retorqued to between 25 and 30 inch pounds. The screws are Torx." |
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I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3.
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3. View Quote How did you get that opportunity? Did the one you handled have the roll pin under the rear of the rail? |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
How did you get that opportunity? Did the one you handled have the roll pin under the rear of the rail? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By vellnueve:
I had the opportunity to handle the 160A3 the other day. I like the larger vent holes on the A3, otherwise it really seems like the 100 reflects most of the development that went into the A3. How did you get that opportunity? Did the one you handled have the roll pin under the rear of the rail? They had one on display at an exposition on base. I honestly didn't even look for the roll pin. One thing I really did like was the add on larger charging handle. Obviously has to be removed to swap sides, but should alleviate that complain for pretty much all the naysayers. |
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Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Missed that comment. You're right, his opinion that LH mirroring is a "gimmick" is outdated at best and foolish at worst. View Quote Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure. In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous. As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed. ETA: Lets hope Geissele makes a trigger for this thing. Honestly I though my SCARs stock trigger was bad (and it is, which is why I got a super SCAR trigger for it), but this trigger, it's ass. |
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Originally Posted By AEROMechanic:
Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure. In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous. As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed. ETA: Lets hope Geissele makes a trigger for this thing. Honestly I though my SCARs stock trigger was bad (and it is, which is why I got a super SCAR trigger for it), but this trigger, it's ass. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AEROMechanic:
Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Missed that comment. You're right, his opinion that LH mirroring is a "gimmick" is outdated at best and foolish at worst. Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure. In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous. As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed. ETA: Lets hope Geissele makes a trigger for this thing. Honestly I though my SCARs stock trigger was bad (and it is, which is why I got a super SCAR trigger for it), but this trigger, it's ass. LH ejection is really useful for vehicle use. Further, the twin extractor/ejector with huge springs is theoretically far more reliable than classic designs. We'll see if it actually pays off. Can't wait for a Geissele trigger. I have the Super dynamic Combat ( flat trigger ) on my AR pistol and won't be going back to lesser stuff. |
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Originally Posted By AEROMechanic:
Mirroring for controls if a plus, to be sure. In his defense though, that whole ejecting from the left is kind of ridiculous. As a left-hander myself i've never once had a problem with my AR15 or SCAR17 firing left-handed. View Quote I'm a southpaw and if you use a support-hand-forward type of grip, my AR and ACR both fire hot brass directly into my right forearm, especially the AR. I either have to use a less-optimal grip or wear a long-sleeve shirt when shooting those with purpose. I'm a big fan of leftward-eject. In ARX news, my Form 1 was approved and my receiver s on its way to Ident for engraving. :) |
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MAC's full review:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-iw24cAhw[/youtube] ETA: No idea why it won't embed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-iw24cAhw |
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Originally Posted By Parliament:
MAC's full review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-iw24cAhw ETA: No idea why it won't embed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-iw24cAhw View Quote You need to delete the "s" from https |
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Read the nametag. You're in my world now grandma.
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Thanks for posting that!
I need to see more of the factory tour though. |
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Watched it and I like what he had to say (usually do). Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the rifle. I've had a chance to handle and shoot one so i'll probably pick one up once i have some free cash that the SO won't notice missing.
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Dextra gladius, leva scutuum, corpore honor. "In the right hand the sword, in the left the shield, in ourselves honor;"
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How is it for smoke/gas being vented toward the shooter? Standard and suppressed?
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Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode: How is it for smoke/gas being vented toward the shooter? Standard and suppressed? View Quote Suppressed you'll get gas in the face like most every other semi-auto I've fired. Some will measure degrees of gas in the face, I really don't. If you fire 30 round fairly quickly you're going to get a little teary eyed. :)
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Mac, did the Beretta guys give you any scoop on the ETA of short barrels? I have an approved Form 1 for mine and it's at Ident Marking being engraved right now. If factory barrels are two months out I would wait, but if they have no idea when they are coming, I'll do the chop myself. I've tried asking them in a couple ways and never get a response.
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Originally Posted By Conqueror:
Mac, did the Beretta guys give you any scoop on the ETA of short barrels? I have an approved Form 1 for mine and it's at Ident Marking being engraved right now. If factory barrels are two months out I would wait, but if they have no idea when they are coming, I'll do the chop myself. I've tried asking them in a couple ways and never get a response. View Quote This would be my next gun if factory short barrels came out. |
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Originally Posted By Conqueror: Mac, did the Beretta guys give you any scoop on the ETA of short barrels? I have an approved Form 1 for mine and it's at Ident Marking being engraved right now. If factory barrels are two months out I would wait, but if they have no idea when they are coming, I'll do the chop myself. I've tried asking them in a couple ways and never get a response. View Quote |
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Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place.
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Got mine today. No pics, it looks exactly the same as the others in this thread. Trigger is heavy but crisper than earlier ones, and the roll pin is in place. View Quote I wonder if they are actually trying to make the trigger feel better or if it is just the luck of the draw as it is with standard mil-spec style AR triggers. |
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