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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:53:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TangledThorns:
I doubt it. I suspect it has something to do with the barrel as that is where we saw the most changes between what was announced this year and last. The original barrel was supposed to be nitrided, not chrome lined. Plus this new barrel has gas adjustment whereas the original barrel did not. Overall I think it had to do with accuracy and the G&A article last year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TangledThorns:
Originally Posted By erwos:
The inside word from SHOT is that the reason for the ARX-100 delay was problems with the BATFE. Namely, they felt the gun was too easily convertible to full-auto. When Beretta made the changes, they had unforeseen impacts to reliability that they spent an inordinate amount of time trying to fix. Combine that with the worries about MD's new gun laws, and well, that probably goes pretty far to explain the delays. I doubt it. I suspect it has something to do with the barrel as that is where we saw the most changes between what was announced this year and last. The original barrel was supposed to be nitrided, not chrome lined. Plus this new barrel has gas adjustment whereas the original barrel did not. Overall I think it had to do with accuracy and the G&A article last year. It wouldn't shock me if they did some other improvements to the rifle while they sorted out the BATFE issue. It's not like the FCG has too much impact on the gas or barrel. That said, I will say that I heard the new MD gun law debate delayed installing their barrel machine, so I do think you're not totally off. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 4:23:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
I wonder if Beretta intends to sell replacement polymer shells? After a few carbine courses, I could see how the polymer could be fairly dinged/scratched up. I'm just going to wait to see if the larger heat vents on the A3 forearm make it onto the -100. I'm sure the shell will hold up. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 11:07:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos:
Agreed. A stable $1600 street price would basically destroy the market for the SCAR 16 (and the ACR, and the XCR, and probably a number of high end ARs). Nah... the owners of pricier rifles would simply dismiss the ARX as a cheaper POS due to its obviously lower price, kind of like how the SIG 556 is sneered at. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 11:19:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays: Nah... the owners of pricier rifles would simply dismiss the ARX as a cheaper POS due to its obviously lower price, kind of like how the SIG 556 is sneered at. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays: Originally Posted By erwos: Agreed. A stable $1600 street price would basically destroy the market for the SCAR 16 (and the ACR, and the XCR, and probably a number of high end ARs). Nah... the owners of pricier rifles would simply dismiss the ARX as a cheaper POS due to its obviously lower price, kind of like how the SIG 556 is sneered at.  That does seem to be the way it works, doesn't it? |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 12:01:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
That does seem to be the way it works, doesn't it?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By erwos:
Agreed. A stable $1600 street price would basically destroy the market for the SCAR 16 (and the ACR, and the XCR, and probably a number of high end ARs). Nah... the owners of pricier rifles would simply dismiss the ARX as a cheaper POS due to its obviously lower price, kind of like how the SIG 556 is sneered at. That does seem to be the way it works, doesn't it?
Far as I can tell. 
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Posted: 1/30/2014 12:15:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
That does seem to be the way it works, doesn't it?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By erwos:
Agreed. A stable $1600 street price would basically destroy the market for the SCAR 16 (and the ACR, and the XCR, and probably a number of high end ARs). Nah... the owners of pricier rifles would simply dismiss the ARX as a cheaper POS due to its obviously lower price, kind of like how the SIG 556 is sneered at. That does seem to be the way it works, doesn't it?
I disagree. The Sig556 was thought to be " The Next Hot Thing " when it debuted with a street price tag around $1200. Tapco-fucked styling or not, a lot of guys wanted one and were looking to swap the furniture. Then Sig screwed it all up with crappy-to-non-existent QC, poorly heat-treated MIM parts, tilted rails, etc..... and gave themselves a bad name. It wasn't just the Sig556 that suffered from low QC, the rest of the line took a hit too. It's going to take a long time for Sig to shake the perception that they are no longer to be trusted. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 12:36:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
I disagree. The Sig556 was thought to be " The Next Hot Thing " when it debuted with a street price tag around $1200. Tapco-fucked styling or not, a lot of guys wanted one and were looking to swap the furniture. Then Sig screwed it all up with crappy-to-non-existent QC, poorly heat-treated MIM parts, tilted rails, etc..... and gave themselves a bad name. It wasn't just the Sig556 that suffered from low QC, the rest of the line took a hit too. It's going to take a long time for Sig to shake the perception that they are no longer to be trusted. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By HardShell:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By erwos:
Agreed. A stable $1600 street price would basically destroy the market for the SCAR 16 (and the ACR, and the XCR, and probably a number of high end ARs). Nah... the owners of pricier rifles would simply dismiss the ARX as a cheaper POS due to its obviously lower price, kind of like how the SIG 556 is sneered at. That does seem to be the way it works, doesn't it?
I disagree. The Sig556 was thought to be " The Next Hot Thing " when it debuted with a street price tag around $1200. Tapco-fucked styling or not, a lot of guys wanted one and were looking to swap the furniture. Then Sig screwed it all up with crappy-to-non-existent QC, poorly heat-treated MIM parts, tilted rails, etc..... and gave themselves a bad name. It wasn't just the Sig556 that suffered from low QC, the rest of the line took a hit too. It's going to take a long time for Sig to shake the perception that they are no longer to be trusted. The SIG pistol fanboys are as rabid as ever, despite concrete evidence that QC isn't what it should be. I think the 556 issues were blown of out proportion, as they usually are, and the rifle as a whole suffered a groupthink dismissal after its introduction. I own several and I have yet to find any issues with them. I hope someone over at SIG knocked some heads together in the QC department. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:22:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
The SIG pistol fanboys are as rabid as ever, despite concrete evidence that QC isn't what it should be. I think the 556 issues were blown of out proportion, as they usually are, and the rifle as a whole suffered a groupthink dismissal after its introduction. I own several and I have yet to find any issues with them. I hope someone over at SIG knocked some heads together in the QC department. They'd have to get rid of their idiot CEO, Ron Cohen first. He's the jackass that turned Kimber into joke first and was rewarded with getting to destroy Sig too. 
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Posted: 1/30/2014 2:27:33 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
They'd have to get rid of their idiot CEO, Ron Cohen first. He's the jackass that turned Kimber into joke first and was rewarded with getting to destroy Sig too.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
The SIG pistol fanboys are as rabid as ever, despite concrete evidence that QC isn't what it should be. I think the 556 issues were blown of out proportion, as they usually are, and the rifle as a whole suffered a groupthink dismissal after its introduction. I own several and I have yet to find any issues with them. I hope someone over at SIG knocked some heads together in the QC department. They'd have to get rid of their idiot CEO, Ron Cohen first. He's the jackass that turned Kimber into joke first and was rewarded with getting to destroy Sig too.
I know. He is rapidly turning SIG into the gun of the month club. How many variants of P226 are there now? Something like 30? |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 2:34:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
I know. He is rapidly turning SIG into the gun of the month club. How many variants of P226 are there now? Something like 30? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By Bullet_:
They'd have to get rid of their idiot CEO, Ron Cohen first. He's the jackass that turned Kimber into joke first and was rewarded with getting to destroy Sig too.
I know. He is rapidly turning SIG into the gun of the month club. How many variants of P226 are there now? Something like 30? Dunno, I don't follow Sig anymore. But Cohen and his gang going to have to work a lot harder if they want to top S&W's line-up from the early 90s. 
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Posted: 1/30/2014 10:24:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
But Cohen and his gang going to have to work a lot harder if they want to top S&W's line-up from the early 90s.
I think they're past S&W at this point. 26 variations of just the P226 
</hijack complete> Anyway, the ARX is one of the few upcoming rifles that I have much interest in. The AR15 market has moved beyond the point that most people can follow it, and incremental proprietary evolutions don't excite me very much, especially when every new iteration is The. Most. Tactical. AR EVAR. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 5:26:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
Anyway, the ARX is one of the few upcoming rifles that I have much interest in. The AR15 market has moved beyond the point that most people can follow it, and incremental proprietary evolutions don't excite me very much, especially when every new iteration is The. Most. Tactical. AR EVAR. So true. It's much like the 1911 in that it's an excellent platform that you can get high performance out of, but the design is ancient and it's lacking a lot of more modern features. IMHO, this is the reason that you see a lot of excitement for the Tavor and the ARX-100 - they're bringing the whole newest generation MSR experience to enthusiasts like us in a way that the SCAR and ACR failed to do. |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 10:18:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2014 7:48:35 AM EDT
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They had a full rack of the ARX100s at the Great American Outdoor Show (NRA-run Black Rifle Edition). I do wish the handguard was slightly longer like the original but it otherwise feels great. I asked the Beretta rep about the new release date, she said second quarter.
I then asked what year, and she said this year 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2014 6:09:48 PM EDT
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So they have fixed the issues and will be releasing in Q2 2014? Did they mention a price point or possibility of 6.8? This would make the perfect 6.8 rifle with Barrett mags and the proper chamber/barrel twist.
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Posted: 2/27/2014 11:19:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyer:
So they have fixed the issues and will be releasing in Q2 2014? Did they mention a price point or possibility of 6.8? This would make the perfect 6.8 rifle with Barrett mags and the proper chamber/barrel twist. Didn't ask, I couldn't care less about 6.8... give me something that will feed Combloc ammo. |
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Posted: 2/28/2014 6:42:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Didn't ask, I couldn't care less about 6.8... give me something that will feed Combloc ammo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By flyer:
So they have fixed the issues and will be releasing in Q2 2014? Did they mention a price point or possibility of 6.8? This would make the perfect 6.8 rifle with Barrett mags and the proper chamber/barrel twist. Didn't ask, I couldn't care less about 6.8... give me something that will feed Combloc ammo. And they've done it already. Just need to bring it state-side. |
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Posted: 3/1/2014 8:34:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos:
So true. It's much like the 1911 in that it's an excellent platform that you can get high performance out of, but the design is ancient and it's lacking a lot of more modern features. IMHO, this is the reason that you see a lot of excitement for the Tavor and the ARX-100 - they're bringing the whole newest generation MSR experience to enthusiasts like us in a way that the SCAR and ACR failed to do. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Anyway, the ARX is one of the few upcoming rifles that I have much interest in. The AR15 market has moved beyond the point that most people can follow it, and incremental proprietary evolutions don't excite me very much, especially when every new iteration is The. Most. Tactical. AR EVAR. So true. It's much like the 1911 in that it's an excellent platform that you can get high performance out of, but the design is ancient and it's lacking a lot of more modern features. IMHO, this is the reason that you see a lot of excitement for the Tavor and the ARX-100 - they're bringing the whole newest generation MSR experience to enthusiasts like us in a way that the SCAR and ACR failed to do. FIFY |
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Posted: 3/1/2014 8:41:47 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
and incremental proprietary evolutions don't excite me very much, So huge proprietary "evolutions" do excite you? .
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Posted: 3/1/2014 10:42:14 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MOS63B:
So huge proprietary "evolutions" do excite you? .Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MOS63B:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
and incremental proprietary evolutions don't excite me very much, So huge proprietary "evolutions" do excite you? .Sure, if one is able to professionally operate the tactical platform in a dynamic, critical incident.
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Posted: 3/1/2014 9:42:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
Sure, if one is able to professionally operate the tactical platform in a dynamic, critical incident.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By MOS63B:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
and incremental proprietary evolutions don't excite me very much, So huge proprietary "evolutions" do excite you? .Sure, if one is able to professionally operate the tactical platform in a dynamic, critical incident.
lol! |
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Posted: 3/15/2014 3:47:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Anyone hear anything on their pre-orders yet? April was the latest rumor.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:01:16 AM EDT
[#23]
Damn, are these things ever going to be released?
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:23:30 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
Anyone hear anything on their pre-orders yet? April was the latest rumor. Nobody's got nutin'. The Beretta Forum Tactical Rifle/Shotgun section ( another site ) has been very quiet too. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:12:02 AM EDT
[#25]
The gun industry would be nothing without Beretta, this rail looks awesome! I still love my PX-4 too, nothing comes close to ease in takedown, they innovate so well, but don't catch on. Its a shame because they advance things so well.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:30:29 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sheddy:
The gun industry would be nothing without Beretta, this rail looks awesome! I still love my PX-4 too, nothing comes close to ease in takedown, they innovate so well, but don't catch on. Its a shame because they advance things so well. The problem, as others have said in this thread, is that Beretta couldn't market free sex, let alone guns. ---------------------------- OT: I read up on the PX4 a few months ago and was surprised at how cutting edge it is. Went and held one at the LGS. My only problem is that the slide release levers are too short / far away for me to use. This seems to be typical for Beretta, since the decocker on the M9 is to far away to be usable too. They seem to design their gun proportions for the upper 10% of male hand sizes. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:37:08 AM EDT
[#27]
anything new?
When will it be? |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 3:36:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sheddy: The gun industry would be nothing without Beretta, this rail looks awesome! I still love my PX-4 too, nothing comes close to ease in takedown, they innovate so well, but don't catch on. Its a shame because they advance things so well. If they had designed the PX to be compatible with 92/96 series mags, they would have sold ten times (or more) the number they have. JMHO. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:54:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beyond_Visual_Range:
anything new? When will it be? My post, bottom of the last page. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:58:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
If they had designed the PX to be compatible with 92/96 series mags, they would have sold ten times (or more) the number they have. JMHO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
Originally Posted By Sheddy:
The gun industry would be nothing without Beretta, this rail looks awesome! I still love my PX-4 too, nothing comes close to ease in takedown, they innovate so well, but don't catch on. Its a shame because they advance things so well. If they had designed the PX to be compatible with 92/96 series mags, they would have sold ten times (or more) the number they have. JMHO. If they made it compatible with other popular makes of pistol mags, like Ruger and Kel-Tec did, it would sell far better. The poly magwell/grip should be modular, like a SVI. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 10:08:27 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
If they had designed the PX to be compatible with 92/96 series mags, they would have sold ten times (or more) the number they have. JMHO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardShell:
Originally Posted By Sheddy:
The gun industry would be nothing without Beretta, this rail looks awesome! I still love my PX-4 too, nothing comes close to ease in takedown, they innovate so well, but don't catch on. Its a shame because they advance things so well. If they had designed the PX to be compatible with 92/96 series mags, they would have sold ten times (or more) the number they have. JMHO. Yeah, that level of supreme 'tardery is historically reserved for Browning. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 10:13:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Flogger23m]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
The SIG pistol fanboys are as rabid as ever, despite concrete evidence that QC isn't what it should be. I think the 556 issues were blown of out proportion, as they usually are, and the rifle as a whole suffered a groupthink dismissal after its introduction. I own several and I have yet to find any issues with them. I hope someone over at SIG knocked some heads together in the QC department. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By HardShell:
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Originally Posted By erwos:
Agreed. A stable $1600 street price would basically destroy the market for the SCAR 16 (and the ACR, and the XCR, and probably a number of high end ARs). Nah... the owners of pricier rifles would simply dismiss the ARX as a cheaper POS due to its obviously lower price, kind of like how the SIG 556 is sneered at. That does seem to be the way it works, doesn't it?
I disagree. The Sig556 was thought to be " The Next Hot Thing " when it debuted with a street price tag around $1200. Tapco-fucked styling or not, a lot of guys wanted one and were looking to swap the furniture. Then Sig screwed it all up with crappy-to-non-existent QC, poorly heat-treated MIM parts, tilted rails, etc..... and gave themselves a bad name. It wasn't just the Sig556 that suffered from low QC, the rest of the line took a hit too. It's going to take a long time for Sig to shake the perception that they are no longer to be trusted. The SIG pistol fanboys are as rabid as ever, despite concrete evidence that QC isn't what it should be. I think the 556 issues were blown of out proportion, as they usually are, and the rifle as a whole suffered a groupthink dismissal after its introduction. I own several and I have yet to find any issues with them. I hope someone over at SIG knocked some heads together in the QC department. They should just make a SIG-551LB with a further extended barrel to reach 16" (551LB-LB ) and be done with it. But I would hope the price is lower. They go for ~ $3,000 in Switzerland, Canada and France (probably closer to $4,000 here).
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Posted: 3/18/2014 8:39:50 AM EDT
[#33]
So, it's almost April. Anyone gotten any word about whether we're really going to see these next month?
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Posted: 3/20/2014 7:56:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Yay another ugly plastic wrapped Italian piece of crap.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 8:57:12 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoRdErBaCoN:
Yay another ugly plastic wrapped Italian piece of crap. As manufacturers go, Beretta has a very good track record of putting out guns that aren't "crap." |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:12:18 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoRdErBaCoN:
Yay another ugly plastic wrapped Italian piece of crap. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to buy one... |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:28:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Last I checked, no one is forcing you to buy one... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Originally Posted By BoRdErBaCoN: Yay another ugly plastic wrapped Italian piece of crap. Last I checked, no one is forcing you to buy one... Or post in this thread, for that matter.
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Posted: 3/26/2014 9:06:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
HEADS UP!!! Hinterlands Outfitters ( a discount internets gun store, similar to Bud's, but in Texas ) has their ARX street price up! They want: $1,565.24 If that price stays, Beretta is going to crush the competition. http://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/beretta-model-arx100-rifle-jxr11600-remington-tele-rail-p-46171.html Let me know their price when they have them in stock LMFAO |
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Posted: 3/26/2014 9:40:46 PM EDT
[#39]
I'm ready to buy one right now
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Posted: 3/26/2014 11:47:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Planning on waiting to see how the "powered rail" concept works out, since it will reportedly be integrated in the -100 - which I'm sure will be reflected in the price. I don't know how they are dealing with the issue of corrosion unless they are using some kind of conductive polymer. A maritime environment will rust steel & Al.
A 7.62x39 kit down the line would be prima speciale awesomeness. |
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Posted: 3/27/2014 1:38:29 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Planning on waiting to see how the "powered rail" concept works out, since it will reportedly be integrated in the -100 - which I'm sure will be reflected in the price. I don't know how they are dealing with the issue of corrosion unless they are using some kind of conductive polymer. A maritime environment will rust steel & Al. A 7.62x39 kit down the line would be prima speciale awesomeness. Won't be in the model that's coming out this spring. That's down the road. The model coming out is bone stock. Handled a few of them back in February. |
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Posted: 3/27/2014 3:24:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Won't be in the model that's coming out this spring. That's down the road. The model coming out is bone stock. Handled a few of them back in February. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Planning on waiting to see how the "powered rail" concept works out, since it will reportedly be integrated in the -100 - which I'm sure will be reflected in the price. I don't know how they are dealing with the issue of corrosion unless they are using some kind of conductive polymer. A maritime environment will rust steel & Al. A 7.62x39 kit down the line would be prima speciale awesomeness. Won't be in the model that's coming out this spring. That's down the road. The model coming out is bone stock. Handled a few of them back in February. I know. Hence the wait, which I hope it'll be worth. I'll be Jone'sen for one, but will have to suffice by living vicariously through you early-adopters. Remember to post pics. |
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Posted: 3/27/2014 6:09:31 AM EDT
[#43]
Probably going to wait on the ARX intro until Beretta moves their plant to Tennessee now
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Posted: 3/27/2014 7:21:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scottmon:
Probably going to wait on the ARX intro until Beretta moves their plant to Tennessee now I doubt it. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2014 6:03:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Beretta has until April 18th to live up to their 90 day claim made when > this video < was released.
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Posted: 4/3/2014 7:38:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Beretta has until April 18th to live up to their 90 day claim made when > this video < was released. If the actually make the date I'm buying a lottery ticket
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Posted: 4/4/2014 2:38:39 AM EDT
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Apparently part of the delay was adding CHF chrome lined barrels, more aluminum internal parts, and adjustable gas system.
All good features to have so the delay wasn't pointless. |
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Posted: 4/4/2014 6:57:40 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpecWired:
Apparently part of the delay was adding CHF chrome lined barrels, more aluminum internal parts, and adjustable gas system. All good features to have so the delay wasn't pointless. CHF is a step down from the original nitride bbl's. Otherwise okay, though I will still wait for the power rail. |
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Posted: 4/4/2014 10:30:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
CHF is a step down from the original nitride bbl's. Otherwise okay, though I will still wait for the power rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By SpecWired:
Apparently part of the delay was adding CHF chrome lined barrels, more aluminum internal parts, and adjustable gas system. All good features to have so the delay wasn't pointless. CHF is a step down from the original nitride bbl's. Otherwise okay, though I will still wait for the power rail. I'm pretty sure that both the nitride and chrome barrels were CHF. |
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Posted: 4/4/2014 11:58:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: vellnueve]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
CHF is a step down from the original nitride bbl's. Otherwise okay, though I will still wait for the power rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By SpecWired:
Apparently part of the delay was adding CHF chrome lined barrels, more aluminum internal parts, and adjustable gas system. All good features to have so the delay wasn't pointless. CHF is a step down from the original nitride bbl's. Otherwise okay, though I will still wait for the power rail. Um, CHF is a method of forming a barrel by hammering steel around a rod. Nitride and chrome-lining are ways of lining the bore. As far as I'm concerned, this is a battle rifle, chrome-lined is fine. |
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