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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:28:01 PM EDT
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Although it is currently sold out I would wait for this one from AIM. I have it and I love it. It's worth the extra cash in my opinion.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:31:07 PM EDT
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Aim Nitride
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:10:40 PM EDT
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#3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:00:14 PM EDT
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1. Ares Nib for 89.99 2. KAK Nitride for 85.00 3. AIM Nitride for 99.99 (free shipping) AIM Nitride 4. AIM Nib for 99.95 (free shipping) AIM Nib |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:02:53 PM EDT
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#3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:13:12 PM EDT
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I don't know, but DSA has 'em for $75 or $85 with charging handle.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:09:04 PM EDT
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Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. 9301 STEEL HEAD Why AIM Nitride for 99.99 (free shipping)? CARPENTER 158 MPI Bolt with inside and out Black Nitride Treatment[/span] |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: #3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. Im not familiar with them, that's why. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:12:39 PM EDT
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Im not familiar with them, that's why. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Oh ok. So your ignorance is how you base your decisions. Sounds logical. Check your facts on C158 vs 9310 before jumping to conclusions. Has nothing to do with a shortage of C158 steel. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:24:42 PM EDT
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OK sport, Ill get right on it.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:39:15 PM EDT
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OK sport, Ill get right on it. Thanks, dad? |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 8:46:03 PM EDT
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Im not familiar with them, that's why. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Sorry OS, but I gotta call you out on this one. That's an awfully broad statement. Narrow it down a little please. I'll agree on the 8620 bolts, (inferior) though. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 8:46:14 PM EDT
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I would say 3 also, but add that I would buy a ToolCraft at $92.38 before any of them.
http://www.wcarmory.com/toolcraft-bcg-223-5-56-bolt-carrier-group-mpi-black-1b1b6-158-carpenter.htm?search=toolcraft |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 9:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry OS, but I gotta call you out on this one. That's an awfully broad statement. Narrow it down a little please. I'll agree on the 8620 bolts, (inferior) though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: #3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Sorry OS, but I gotta call you out on this one. That's an awfully broad statement. Narrow it down a little please. I'll agree on the 8620 bolts, (inferior) though. we never all agree on everything. The guy asked why and I told him my opinion. everyone agrees that the #3 is a great choice, even though the KAK bolt is 8% harder then C158. The hardness of the bolt wasn't the question though was it. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 9:22:20 PM EDT
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we never all agree on everything. The guy asked why and I told him my opinion. everyone agrees that the #3 is a great choice, even though the KAK bolt is 8% harder then C158. The hardness of the bolt wasn't the question though was it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Sorry OS, but I gotta call you out on this one. That's an awfully broad statement. Narrow it down a little please. I'll agree on the 8620 bolts, (inferior) though. everyone agrees that the #3 is a great choice, even though the KAK bolt is 8% harder then C158. The hardness of the bolt wasn't the question though was it. This is the "opinion" I am referring to. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 9:41:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the "opinion" I am referring to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Sorry OS, but I gotta call you out on this one. That's an awfully broad statement. Narrow it down a little please. I'll agree on the 8620 bolts, (inferior) though. everyone agrees that the #3 is a great choice, even though the KAK bolt is 8% harder then C158. The hardness of the bolt wasn't the question though was it. This is the "opinion" I am referring to. I don't agree that a harder bolt is a better bolt, that's my opinion and that's why I think they are lesser quality. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 9:59:28 PM EDT
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Sorry OS, but I gotta call you out on this one. That's an awfully broad statement. Narrow it down a little please. I'll agree on the 8620 bolts, (inferior) though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#3 The first two are companies I wouldn't deal with even though I think Ares is a stand up company and I hope the best for them. Why not KAK? I've used their stuff and have never had any issues. As said above, the steel isn't C158 and probably the reason for that is due to the shortage last year of C158, many companies started making them out of different steels to fill the void and what is left is these lesser quality bolts they stick into cheaper BCG's. Sorry OS, but I gotta call you out on this one. That's an awfully broad statement. Narrow it down a little please. I'll agree on the 8620 bolts, (inferior) though. 8620 and 9310 can be => C158 if properly heat treated. often harder = brittle my opinion: 8620 carrier, C158 bolt if available. melonited for the win 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:18:26 PM EDT
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I'm a huge fan of Nitrided barrels, The extra toughness is a big plus in the bore
HOWEVER, I do prefer the BCG to be NiB as the lubricity is MUCH better, has equal corrosion resistance, and SUPER easy to clean. (Wipe and Go!) My preference and the reason behind it. I've been SUPER pleased with the Aim NiB BCGs I have purchased. BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:38:32 PM EDT
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NIB AIm is G2G; however the only reason I got it was because the Nitride was out of stock!
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Posted: 11/25/2014 11:03:07 PM EDT
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If treated properly 9310 is better material than C158, its 3-8% stronger and not anymore brittle than C158. The reason its used is it can be bought in smaller quantities easier. The key is the heat treat process which is not hard to do, and I would guess most quality companies have good heat treaters.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 11:03:56 PM EDT
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Although it is currently sold out I would wait for this one from AIM. I have it and I love it. It's worth the extra cash in my opinion. Got this bolt also. Been great in a sbr with a AAC can. I think I got 1500 rounds down range so far I have it wrote down but to lazy to get up. 
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Posted: 11/26/2014 1:08:15 AM EDT
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PSA Full auto Premium BCG is Rock Solid
Ares Armor Nib BCG is a very close second |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 7:20:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:17:17 AM EDT
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This one:
Aero Precision I got mine for a better price that whats listed on their website. Its not fancy NIB. It works. Its not that hard to get clean. 
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Posted: 11/26/2014 2:01:30 PM EDT
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I literally just bought the Ares NiB. Quite frankly since this is my first AR, I am pinching and getting deals where possible just to get it put together. So $99 shipped seemed like one hell of a deal to me, so i went with it.
EDIT: I just cancelled my order. Its a great deal, but I am waiting to see if Aero Precision will have theirs on sale this month. If not, ill probably end up buying the Ares. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:01:55 AM EDT
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How does Fail Zero compared to the BCG listed above? Its selling for 99:
https://www.primaryarms.com/Fail_Zero_AR_15_Basic_EXO_Coated_Bolt_Carrier_Grou_p/fz-03493.htm |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:21:16 AM EDT
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I use full auto profile BCG. They have more mass then the Fail Zero semi-auto. I know there is a reason why full auto is suppossed to be better. Can I think of the reason, No I can't remember. I'm sure someone will remember it for me. Don't believe any company that says you can run it DRY. It may not need to be soaking wet but the BCG needs some lube
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:38:34 AM EDT
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I bought the ares because it was also 89.99 about a month or so ago...havnt installed it yet but looks pretty sweet
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Posted: 11/27/2014 4:31:59 AM EDT
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I just put an Ares Armor BCG in my buddies build. It runs as sweet as it looks. I have 6 other builds using PSA premium full auto BCG. Can't really tell a difference all work flawlessly
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Posted: 11/28/2014 12:12:26 PM EDT
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Got this bolt also. Been great in a sbr with a AAC can. I think I got 1500 rounds down range so far I have it wrote down but to lazy to get up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Although it is currently sold out I would wait for this one from AIM. I have it and I love it. It's worth the extra cash in my opinion. Got this bolt also. Been great in a sbr with a AAC can. I think I got 1500 rounds down range so far I have it wrote down but to lazy to get up. I've done 1000rd tactical classes with both FailZero NiB and conventional. The FailZero was noticeably smoother and much easier to clean. Always reminded me of water rolling off a car after spending hours hand-waxing. I ended up selling the FailZero as part of a build and I miss it. Once it's back in stock, I'm planning on picking up an AIM v2 to replace it. It's pretty esoteric when you get right down to it, but to me it's worth the extra $50 ($130 vs. $80). If I wanted purely functional I can build sub $500 ARs all day long that will shoot just fine...all day long. That's not the kind of building I enjoy. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 12:32:49 PM EDT
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How does Fail Zero compared to the BCG listed above? Its selling for 99: https://www.primaryarms.com/Fail_Zero_AR_15_Basic_EXO_Coated_Bolt_Carrier_Grou_p/fz-03493.htm Aaaaaand then I read this. Two FailZero's inbound! Gotta love ArfCom! |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 1:41:29 PM EDT
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Well I'm not sure the type of AR15 build is really dependent on the price of a built rifle. I have the PSA and Ares Armor BCG'S in many different style rifle. From the sub 500 range to my buddies $2000 rig. I am not a believer in the fanciest most expensive BCG is necessarily the has to be in the most expensive rifle. I mean if it works, you get accuracy up to your expectations, and it's reliable isn't that the point. I clean my rifle after every shoot so they are NEVER hard to clean.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 10:35:45 AM EDT
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1. Ares Nib for 89.99 Ares 2. KAK Nitride for 85.00 KAK 3. AIM Nitride for 99.99 (free shipping) AIM Nitride 4. AIM Nib for 99.95 (free shipping) AIM Nib |
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