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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:20:27 PM EDT
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If you don't like the price of the UTG Pros, You probably won't like the price of what else is out there unless you go to the eBay Chinese handguards...
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:22:20 PM EDT
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Magpul MOE
I to am turned off by the high priced quad rail handguards. But also, after putting a quad rail on my mid-length rifle, the increase in weight was very noticeable. Increased the weight enough that it's uncomfortable to carry. Looks good though. Several months back I bought a RRA LAR-8. It came with a Magpul MOE handguard. At first I didn't like it, but the more I handle it and think about it the more I like it, so. The build I'm working on now will be Magpul MOE. You can hang stuff on them if you so desire. YMMV |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:22:55 PM EDT
[#3]
First post nailed it.
Aluminum free float rails for under that price point are hard to come by. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:29:06 PM EDT
[#4]
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Magpul MOE I to am turned off by the high priced quad rail handguards. But also, after putting a quad rail on my mid-length rifle, the increase in weight was very noticeable. Increased the weight enough that it's uncomfortable to carry. Looks good though. Several months back I bought a RRA LAR-8. It came with a Magpul MOE handguard. At first I didn't like it, but the more I handle it and think about it the more I like it, so. The build I'm working on now will be Magpul MOE. You can hang stuff on them if you so desire. YMMV Thanks, but I have a couple uppers with MOE carbine hand guards. I like them ok but was looking for other inexpensive free float options for future builds. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:53:42 PM EDT
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You guys are complaining about $100 UTG products?
Your expectations don't mesh with reality |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 5:33:02 PM EDT
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You guys are complaining about $100 UTG products?
Your expectations don't mesh with reality Oh, yeah, I don't doubt they are worth every penny. They just cost more than I can justify for my use. After shooting a rifle with a quad rail on it for some time now, I've come to the conclusion that I don't care for the one I have and think it is way over kill for my use. I wouldn't mind trying one of the half quads that RRA sells. Hopefully it would be lighter than a full quad rail and there would still be room to hang accessories on it. But they are quite expensive too. But again it's just my opinion, and each to his own. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 8:55:00 PM EDT
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I scored 3 rails from ATI earlier this year I think it was, 2 13" and one 15", all of them were under $100, Head Down by Provectus was the brand. I still like them and use them regularly... Keep an eye out for them maybe for black Friday...
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Posted: 10/23/2014 9:13:55 PM EDT
[#8]
I know you said aluminum, but what about a carbon tube? those are relatively cheap
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Posted: 10/23/2014 9:42:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Parallax tactical for the win bro...
They do blems for 99. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 11:19:05 PM EDT
[#10]
Maybe Midway? Honestly, $100-$150 is already pretty inexpensive... I would be careful going cheap. Don't sacrifice quality.
I just ordered a 15" Troy Alpha rail for $153.45. That's a steal! They're normally around $209.99 and are great, light weight rails. |
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Posted: 10/24/2014 1:10:46 AM EDT
[#11]
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Parallax tactical for the win bro... They do blems for 99. I'm seeing 13" in black for $149... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/24/2014 2:51:02 AM EDT
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I'm seeing 13" blend for $149... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Parallax tactical for the win bro... They do blems for 99. I'm seeing 13" blend for $149... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile They post $99 ones on Facebook every week or so. Have an FDE one inbound. |
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Posted: 10/24/2014 8:17:52 AM EDT
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I am not saying yay or nay, just telling you what is out there. There is a UTG Pro Slim knock off being talked about in the last page of the multi-page UTG pro thread. The Trinity Force Atlas rail. It can be had for $65 on ebay.
You have been informed. You have been warned. 
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Posted: 10/24/2014 9:01:31 PM EDT
[#14]
UTG expensive?
 The pro keymod is outstanding for the price, I have one and it fits all my needs.
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Posted: 10/24/2014 9:43:34 PM EDT
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They post $99 ones on Facebook every week or so. Have an FDE one inbound. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Parallax tactical for the win bro... They do blems for 99. I'm seeing 13" blend for $149... They post $99 ones on Facebook every week or so. Have an FDE one inbound. I'll have to check them out Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 1:24:36 AM EDT
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I wouldn't mind trying one of the half quads that RRA sells. Hopefully it would be lighter than a full quad rail and there would still be room to hang accessories on it. But they are quite expensive too. That thing is a whole lot heavier than the UTG MTU019SS. Honestly, the 15" UTG pro is one of the best values out there in a FF hand guard. There is a UTG Pro Slim knock off being talked about in the last page of the multi-page UTG pro thread. The Trinity Force Atlas rail. It can be had for $65 on ebay.
You have been informed. You have been warned Warned is right. Take it from me, pass on the Trinity Force knock-off. They look the part, and the hand guard itself isn't bad, but the mounting system is entirely different than the UTG Pro, and not in a good way. Quite the opposite, in fact; it's crap. You'll never get it perfectly straight, wants to cant downward. I decided to see if they were worth a hoot, figured I could gamble at $58.95. I won't be getting another of those. Buy the real one from Leapers. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 6:00:44 AM EDT
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That thing is a whole lot heavier than the UTG MTU019SS. Honestly, the 15" UTG pro is one of the best values out there in a FF hand guard. Warned is right. Take it from me, pass on the Trinity Force knock-off. They look the part, and the hand guard itself isn't bad, but the mounting system is entirely different than the UTG Pro, and not in a good way. Quite the opposite, in fact; it's crap. You'll never get it perfectly straight, wants to cant downward. I decided to see if they were worth a hoot, figured I could gamble at $58.95. I won't be getting another of those. Buy the real one from Leapers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I wouldn't mind trying one of the half quads that RRA sells. Hopefully it would be lighter than a full quad rail and there would still be room to hang accessories on it. But they are quite expensive too. That thing is a whole lot heavier than the UTG MTU019SS. Honestly, the 15" UTG pro is one of the best values out there in a FF hand guard. There is a UTG Pro Slim knock off being talked about in the last page of the multi-page UTG pro thread. The Trinity Force Atlas rail. It can be had for $65 on ebay.
You have been informed. You have been warned Warned is right. Take it from me, pass on the Trinity Force knock-off. They look the part, and the hand guard itself isn't bad, but the mounting system is entirely different than the UTG Pro, and not in a good way. Quite the opposite, in fact; it's crap. You'll never get it perfectly straight, wants to cant downward. I decided to see if they were worth a hoot, figured I could gamble at $58.95. I won't be getting another of those. Buy the real one from Leapers. Yep got bit in the ass with one too, total junk for a barrel nut, think the guy that brought them up was one of the sellers on ebay |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 9:06:11 AM EDT
[#18]
Do you really want a rail, or would a free float tube by itself work?
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Posted: 10/25/2014 9:37:43 AM EDT
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Never have tried to ice skate uphill.
Seems some others may be wanting to try it. Can't imagine it'll go well. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 10:15:13 AM EDT
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I buy from the EE
I bought a new Samson 11" rail for $100, a used 15" MI SS2 for $125, and another used 15" MI SS2 for a $115 
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Posted: 10/25/2014 11:18:30 AM EDT
[#21]
I've been happy with my YHM rails. They're on the lower end price wise but seem to be good quality.
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Posted: 10/25/2014 5:15:07 PM EDT
[#22]
I just snagged a 2nd gen MI quad free float for about $130. Honestly, that's about as cheap as it gets and I'm sure it's much better quality than a UTG. I hate spending that much on a part like this too, but after trying a few different things it's really worth it in the long run. I don't attach anything to this one, just Troy rail covers but it's good to know that if I want to mount a hundred flash lights or whatever on there that I can.
This is just my "beater" 14.5" upper that I run on my SBR lower for general use. I did a short carbine course with it using an MOE handguard and that thing got HOT after less than 100 rounds during time drills. We'll see how this one does, but the DD M4 rail on my 10.5" barrel never gives me heat issues running with or without a suppressor, so I'm guessing this one should be good to go. Oh, and this one weighs only 9oz. I want to say that's pretty much the same as most plastic hand guards and has the extra benefit of being free floated now. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 7:12:31 PM EDT
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I just snagged a 2nd gen MI quad free float for about $130. Honestly, that's about as cheap as it gets and I'm sure it's much better quality than a UTG. I don't know that I'd go that far these days. Leaper's import line of UTG items are lower tier, but the US-made Pro series are pretty dang good. I've had them side-by-side with DD and MI stuff, and though there are differences, there was no detectable disparity in overall quality. The Pro rails and slim guards are very well made, nicely finished and fit rifles like a glove. They're also not that much cheaper than MI; The UTG MTU019SSK is only about $40 less than the MI G2 15" SSK. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 7:50:51 PM EDT
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I don't know that I'd go that far these days. Leaper's import line of UTG items are lower tier, but the US-made Pro series are pretty dang good. I've had them side-by-side with DD and MI stuff, and though there are differences, there was no detectable disparity in overall quality. The Pro rails and slim guards are very well made, nicely finished and fit rifles like a glove. They're also not that much cheaper than MI; The UTG MTU019SSK is only about $40 less than the MI G2 15" SSK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just snagged a 2nd gen MI quad free float for about $130. Honestly, that's about as cheap as it gets and I'm sure it's much better quality than a UTG. I don't know that I'd go that far these days. Leaper's import line of UTG items are lower tier, but the US-made Pro series are pretty dang good. I've had them side-by-side with DD and MI stuff, and though there are differences, there was no detectable disparity in overall quality. The Pro rails and slim guards are very well made, nicely finished and fit rifles like a glove. They're also not that much cheaper than MI; The UTG MTU019SSK is only about $40 less than the MI G2 15" SSK. Yep , I'll take a MTU019SS over another MISS15G2 any day, as I think the UTG has a superior mounting system. |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 10:49:36 AM EDT
[#25]
For lower end (price) rail systems I look to UTG PRO or YHM.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 11:08:09 AM EDT
[#26]
ALG also has a decent hg starting at $100 shipped
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Posted: 10/26/2014 12:32:32 PM EDT
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ALG also has a decent hg starting at $100 shipped OP lamented the 100-150 range and asked if there were cheaper options. |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 8:20:18 PM EDT
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I didn't even know UTG had anything made in the US. The only things I saw from them 10 or so years back weren't too hot, ignored them ever since. Sure I'm not missing out regardless :)
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Posted: 10/26/2014 9:08:12 PM EDT
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This handguard is on my radar for my next build
It is 12" and one of the lightest, modern, quality built out there and the price on clearance is $131 which I think is not too bad considering the quality... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/813174/midwest-industries-lwm-series-free-float-lightweight-m-lok-handguard-ar-15-rifle-length-aluminum |
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Posted: 10/26/2014 9:52:27 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They post $99 ones on Facebook every week or so. Have an FDE one inbound. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Parallax tactical for the win bro... They do blems for 99. I'm seeing 13" blend for $149... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile They post $99 ones on Facebook every week or so. Have an FDE one inbound. Thanks for the heads up. Checked their facebook last night right after seeing your post, and wouldn't you know it, they just started a sale on blems. Got a 15" M LOK rail on the way.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 2:43:00 AM EDT
[#31]
Ditto on the heads up.
Just ordered a 15" MLOK as well. Twinsies! |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 3:02:39 AM EDT
[#32]
I remember the days when any decent rail was $300... they are so much cheaper today...
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:44:42 AM EDT
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I emailed them and told them i'd take either a stealth grey or FDE in 13". Hopefully they are not all spoken for yet. I've been looking for a hand guard to put on my truck gun.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 5:36:38 PM EDT
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MLOK rail arrived. I'm pretty impressed. The 15" Rail feels lighter than my MOE Midlength Handguard. It also appears to be a lower profile than a Troy rail. These things are thin.
There were only 2 "blemishes" I could count. Nothing a sharpy won't fix, since they are inside the MLOK holes anyways. As for the T-Mark Error a front sight will be occupying that slot anyways. FreezinSig I wanted to personally thank you for the heads up. Pics in awhile It's pretty sweet getting this: http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/parallax-tactical-ffssr-series-m-lok-1.html For only half the price. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 8:11:13 PM EDT
[#35]
What about diamondhead usa. They have a decent keymod rail around your price range
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Posted: 10/31/2014 8:52:21 PM EDT
[#36]
I picked up rails from Mas Defense and love them. Quality was just as good as some of the rails that I paid twice the amount for.
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:49:55 PM EDT
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Thanks for the parallax connection. The facebook prices look promising.
I have been using ALGs 12" with great love and affection. The availability of just the rail alone (without picatinnys) varies but I have been buying right at $100. These rails mount so nice, with a little learning curve on using the shims, and the fit is outstanding. |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 8:24:11 PM EDT
[#38]
Rail and Barrel Nut seem very solid.
I recommend a Snap on Crow Foot attachment. The Sunex one was too fat for the barrel nut flats. |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 8:36:25 PM EDT
[#39]
UTG $98 on EBay
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Posted: 11/14/2014 9:49:01 PM EDT
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I picked up 2 15" FFSSR rails from Parallax during a Facebook blem sale.
These thinks look and feel great! Highly recommend them to anyone. |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 10:10:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rail and Barrel Nut seem very solid. http://i.imgur.com/rTDL1Nm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kQalgPq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2mVvQa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/u7XCckj.jpg I recommend a Snap on Crow Foot attachment. The Sunex one was too fat for the barrel nut flats. Man that looks sharp. My rail should arrive tomorrow, can't wait to get it mounted and get my rifle reassembled.
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Posted: 11/14/2014 10:26:13 PM EDT
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Yeah Im digging it. Not too sure on the MLOK system just yet. Just seems like a quick install MOE system which is nice. You need to get the hang of turning the screws left/loose, and then turning right when the nuts align. There is some slight finish wear just from mounting and unmounting. But it isn't really noticeable.
Makes me wonder how polymer MLOK handguards would hold up. The AFG rail isn't going anywhere though. That is for sure. I'm a bit of a noob as far as lights go. Does that set up/mount look adequate? These handguards are super thin, and it really is nice for a thumb over bore grip. Im right handed, and with the light at 2 oclock, it's in the perfect position for my support hand thumb to hit the tail cap. I'm so tempted to put a scope on this build, but I prefer a red dot. I think this type of rail would look very neat with a straight 20 round pmag/scope on it. Makes me wish I knew somebody who needed some Coyotes/Hogs taken care of
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