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Posted: 9/14/2014 8:23:36 PM EDT
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Looking at 14.5 carbine length stripped barrels with .750 gas blocks. Seems like Daniel Defense and Bravo Company USA are my two choices. From those with experience which would be a better quality barrel. This is a defense build not a 500 yard precision rifle. If there is an option I missed that is better yet please post. Thank you! I'm in the same boat as you, man. the Noveske Afghan is not worth the price point at all. The only barrel Rainier offers that's CHF is 14.8.....which seems pretty stupid. So I've been looking at the BCM barrels.... IMO, any barrel that offers sub-moa is probably the same across the board. I'm sure some AR15 scientist will come here and argue that all day....but if we're being realistic..... |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 8:31:41 PM EDT
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Maybe build your own upper, get exactly what you want, customized? I can personally attest this barrel is awesome. http://www.riflegear.com/p-2165-fn-145-midlength-17-twist-chf-barrel-556.aspx
It's a midlength. I bet the carbine performs on par. Just suggestion, its what I did.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 8:32:40 PM EDT
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Either one really. I've had both and both are great. I got rid of my 14.5s and still have 5-16" DD LW barrels and love them. The last 14.5 I had was a Spikes Tactical and it was great also. I would look at spikes, Voodoo tactical, Ballistic Advantage, and the EE.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 9:21:41 PM EDT
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Yes, building an upper from scratch. BCM is about $40 less expensive which is a factor if they perform the same.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 9:23:41 PM EDT
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Yes, building an upper from scratch. BCM is about $40 less expensive which is a factor if they perform the same. All DD barrels are hammer-forged, so make sure you're comparing prices between DD and BCM's hammer-forged instead of standard line. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 9:44:20 PM EDT
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BCM is giving free comps and BCG with any upper purchase right now..
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:18:48 PM EDT
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Armed you bring up a great point that i had missed. The BFH is only offered in mid length no carbine length. That really makes the DD the best choice as it is hammer forged. Thank you for pointing that out!
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:26:18 AM EDT
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DD pins their lo profile gas block i dont think bcm does
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:30:59 AM EDT
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DD pins their lo profile gas block i dont think bcm does as easy as that is to do, that's a non-issue. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 5:34:39 PM EDT
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I am planning on getting the stripped barrel and use a Yankee hill gas block flip up front sight combo. It clamps on. Is this going to be an issue?
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Posted: 9/15/2014 5:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, building an upper from scratch. BCM is about $40 less expensive which is a factor if they perform the same. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 6:10:09 PM EDT
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Whichever you can get the comparable product from cheaper, is where I'd go.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 6:52:23 PM EDT
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Maybe I misunderstand, but where you getting a hammer forged BCM for $40 less than a DD? They show to be $309. Maybe you got a discount I am not privy to? Good luch which ever way you go, but I would really like to know if it is the hammer forged version you are talking about for $40 less. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, building an upper from scratch. BCM is about $40 less expensive which is a factor if they perform the same. Already covered. He was comparing bcm standard to dd. Didn't take CHF into account. All straightened out already. Feel free to chill. 
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:41:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Already covered. He was comparing bcm standard to dd. Didn't take CHF into account. All straightened out already. Feel free to chill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, building an upper from scratch. BCM is about $40 less expensive which is a factor if they perform the same. Already covered. He was comparing bcm standard to dd. Didn't take CHF into account. All straightened out already. Feel free to chill. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:01:33 PM EDT
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It was mentioned that DD pins gas blocks. The barrel I am looking at has no gas block so I presume I am good to go with the Yankee hill clamp on correct?
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:10:04 PM EDT
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It was mentioned that DD pins gas blocks. The barrel I am looking at has no gas block so I presume I am good to go with the Yankee hill clamp on correct? should be. just use some loctite on the threads. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:12:39 PM EDT
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It was mentioned that DD pins gas blocks. The barrel I am looking at has no gas block so I presume I am good to go with the Yankee hill clamp on correct? Clamp on? Seriously? It might fall off you know. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 7:45:34 AM EDT
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In all of the searches I have done I have not found that to be an issue. It also allows me to put it on after the barrel is pinned and coated.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 8:11:42 AM EDT
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I know people who have had set screw blocks come loose. Clamps ons have even more screws. And unless it's the model that comes in halves not a separated ring (four screws to fail) you won't be getting it on over the muzzle device.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 8:16:47 AM EDT
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Depends on the muzzle device.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:36:44 AM EDT
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Looking at using the YHM-9396. I have not found anyone post specific issues with this model or the variants of it. But I am clearly not all knowing. Just what I have read.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 11:18:23 AM EDT
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It also allows me to put it on after the barrel is pinned and coated. ....which allows you to scratch the fuck out of the barrel.....IF it even goes over the muzzle device. There are a few it MIGHT, but the odds are slim. Just get a set-screw block and pin it. It's not that difficult. 
pinned by Armed Ferret, on Flickr |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 7:15:28 PM EDT
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....which allows you to scratch the fuck out of the barrel.....IF it even goes over the muzzle device. There are a few it MIGHT, but the odds are slim. Just get a set-screw block and pin it. It's not that difficult. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/nrV9w8" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5045/14076774123_445e7c88af_o.jpg</a> pinned by Armed Ferret, on Flickr Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It also allows me to put it on after the barrel is pinned and coated. ....which allows you to scratch the fuck out of the barrel.....IF it even goes over the muzzle device. There are a few it MIGHT, but the odds are slim. Just get a set-screw block and pin it. It's not that difficult. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/nrV9w8" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5045/14076774123_445e7c88af_o.jpg</a> pinned by Armed Ferret, on Flickr I've used set screw gas blocks with a dimpled barrel and Loctite the screws and had zero issues. I am curious about the process you used to pin it though if you want to share or know of a place where it is already explained. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 7:26:40 PM EDT
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can go to Rainier and buy a lo pro pinning jig.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 7:30:27 PM EDT
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I've used set screw gas blocks with a dimpled barrel and Loctite the screws and had zero issues. I am curious about the process you used to pin it though if you want to share or know of a place where it is already explained. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It also allows me to put it on after the barrel is pinned and coated. ....which allows you to scratch the fuck out of the barrel.....IF it even goes over the muzzle device. There are a few it MIGHT, but the odds are slim. Just get a set-screw block and pin it. It's not that difficult. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/nrV9w8" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5045/14076774123_445e7c88af_o.jpg</a> pinned by Armed Ferret, on Flickr I've used set screw gas blocks with a dimpled barrel and Loctite the screws and had zero issues. I am curious about the process you used to pin it though if you want to share or know of a place where it is already explained. Rainier jig already linked, cobalt bit, 2-0 taper reamer and pin. Has more than paid for itself in terms of money saved not paying someone else to do it. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:03:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rainier jig already linked-NOT, cobalt bit, 2-0 taper reamer and pin. Has more than paid for itself in terms of money saved not paying someone else to do it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It also allows me to put it on after the barrel is pinned and coated. ....which allows you to scratch the fuck out of the barrel.....IF it even goes over the muzzle device. There are a few it MIGHT, but the odds are slim. Just get a set-screw block and pin it. It's not that difficult. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/nrV9w8" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5045/14076774123_445e7c88af_o.jpg</a> pinned by Armed Ferret, on Flickr I've used set screw gas blocks with a dimpled barrel and Loctite the screws and had zero issues. I am curious about the process you used to pin it though if you want to share or know of a place where it is already explained. Rainier jig already linked-NOT, cobalt bit, 2-0 taper reamer and pin. Has more than paid for itself in terms of money saved not paying someone else to do it. OP-on a technical note, Pinned is bullet proof. Having said that, I have never had a set screw or clamp on come loose on me yet. I don't throw them down the driveway much, but loctite on the threads and you should be good to go. Pinning it is no doubt great. The other ways will suffice extraordinarily well though. Loctite on the threads may heat up but will always be gummy enough to keep threads seated. If you actually take a tool to said threads while the loctite is hot, you will find that it is easier to remove that way. But it is not going anywhere. I do not want to discourage you from pinning it, because then you can beat on it directly with a sledge hammer while throwing down the driveway. Your money your choice, but there is no requirement to pin, ask BCM. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:24:16 PM EDT
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You got no link to rainier in this thread bro. But you do have quite the arrogant tone. I am very chilled still, and there is no link to the rainier jig in any of your posts in this thread. So maybe you could chill with all the correction and just live and let live? Just one other correction to make. I never said I linked to anything. Just that the link was posted. Maybe try pulling your head out and looking at the post you made above mine where the rainier jig is linked. As for arrogant tone, I'm just posting fact and not concerning myself with whether said fact hurts the feelings of some precious snowflake somewhere. If that's the case, maybe thicker skin is a wise investment. That and better attention to detail. 
Or maybe just go back to GD where reading comprehension isn't a requirement, since you obviously don't engage in it. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:40:54 PM EDT
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I did look, it's not there at the time of my link posting. My apologies to the thread no intent of getting this locked. Just wanted to help by posting a link. Then the link police showed up.
Good luck OP, and if you do choose to pin it yourself, there is some skill required. If you are competent with tools I am sure you can get through it. But even with the jig, it's not a total cake walk the first time. Just take your time and make sure you have the right tools.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:50:04 PM EDT
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I did look, it's not there at the time of my link posting. My apologies to the thread no intent of getting this locked. Just wanted to help by posting a link. Then the link police showed up. I think you have your timeline out of whack, son. 1. You linked to the rainier jig. 2. I then stated that I used the rainier jig, to which a link was already posted in the thread (BY YOU). 3. You then tried to call me out for lying about posting the link (which has already been discussed and shown that you were a schmuck for lacking comprehension). Hope this timeline helps you realize why you're wrong. Have a great night; I'm off to bed. Got guns to build tomorrow--with gas blocks pinned by the rainier jig. You know, the one you linked to on page 1.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 1:13:30 PM EDT
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Found someone local to pin the flash hider but I think I will just clamp the gas block front sight combo on and see if I have any issues.
Thanks all for the help and insight. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 1:19:53 PM EDT
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Found someone local to pin the flash hider but I think I will just clamp the gas block front sight combo on and see if I have any issues. Thanks all for the help and insight. The majority of folks won't use their rifles hard enough to cause any issues with set screw or clamp on gas blocks. I play hard with mine when I play, so the added insurance was worth it. I doubt you'll have any issues. |
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