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Posted: 8/20/2015 7:33:50 PM EDT












Link Posted: 8/20/2015 7:34:57 PM EDT
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Very thick barrel under handguards, a1 flash hider and forward assist, c marked carrier, drain hole handguards and on an sp1 lower
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 7:58:24 PM EDT
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Alex, I thought you were going to GIVE that Upper Half to me.

Just Kidding, but if you ever think about letting it go, PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL FIRST..

It's Beautiful, and I'm a little green with envy.

Will the Colt 3X9 Scope fit on it???


Link Posted: 8/20/2015 8:04:51 PM EDT
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Alex, I thought you were going to GIVE that Upper Half to me.

Just Kidding, but if you ever think about letting it go, PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL FIRST..

It's Beautiful, and I'm a little green with envy.

Will the Colt 3X9 Scope fit on it???


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Unfortunately it takes a special mount that I am unaware of what scope goes on this. I posted a couple pictures of the mount if anybody knows
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:03:19 PM EDT
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Is the upper a large hole?
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:29:47 PM EDT
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Awesome! Thanks!!!!
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:32:07 PM EDT
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Yes it is a large hole upper. Anybody ideas about the scope mount?
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:35:25 PM EDT
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How did you get these?  It looks like the rifle that was in the thread
A few weeks ago . I forgot his name but he acquired it and others
From a retired colt employee ?
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:46:37 PM EDT
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Fantastic looking rifle and a rare find. I believe the Colt 656 utilized the 3x9 Realist "Camputer" scope. If you look on the bottom of the mount, you will see a hole (sometimes has a screw in it). The rings were a little offset too. There are a couple of these scopes listed on Ebay. Check them out.
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:47:33 PM EDT
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Yes it is a large hole upper. Anybody ideas about the scope mount?


It was made to work with the factory realist ART mount .
Here is a pic 04ZREX posted a while ago.
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:57:32 PM EDT
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You can see where the two front screw holes
Would intersect the factory realist mount. The rear
Pin ... Had to be something added to stabilize
The rear of the scope .
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:58:49 PM EDT
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It was made to work with the factory realist ART mount .
Here is a pic 04ZREX posted a while ago.
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Yes it is a large hole upper. Anybody ideas about the scope mount?


It was made to work with the factory realist ART mount .
Here is a pic 04ZREX posted a while ago.
<a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/6A0DEA5D-1D0F-40CA-BE70-08574D3A7D1B.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/6A0DEA5D-1D0F-40CA-BE70-08574D3A7D1B.jpg</a>


So there are a few ART scopes on eBay. Are those correct for the 656? This picture is different from those. Sorry I know little about the realist scopes lol
Link Posted: 8/20/2015 11:59:44 PM EDT
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Anybody have ideas on the barrel marks?
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 12:10:27 AM EDT
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So there are a few ART scopes on eBay. Are those correct for the 656? This picture is different from those. Sorry I know little about the realist scopes lol
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Yes it is a large hole upper. Anybody ideas about the scope mount?


It was made to work with the factory realist ART mount .
Here is a pic 04ZREX posted a while ago.
<a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/6A0DEA5D-1D0F-40CA-BE70-08574D3A7D1B.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/6A0DEA5D-1D0F-40CA-BE70-08574D3A7D1B.jpg</a>


So there are a few ART scopes on eBay. Are those correct for the 656? This picture is different from those. Sorry I know little about the realist scopes lol


Yes, and no. All depends on your ocd . The correct scope is the realist 3x9 computer scope. There have been three
On eBay for years for 700-ish. And for that price they will stay there for more years to come. I spent literally every day for almost a year
On multiple sights to try and find mine... At a good price. I finally placed wanted to by adds
And eventually it paid off. If anybody is considering building a 656 I recommend taking that route.

The e bay scopes are also wrong, at least in s few details . The scopes on the Knights guns are
Very late production ARTs, right before they transitioned to the leatherwood ART2. So the Knights scopes are
Black not the bronze-ish color and they have the ART sticker on the side , which was something common on the ART2
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 12:13:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2015 12:14:09 AM EDT
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Yes, and no. All depends on your ocd . The correct scope is the realist 3x9 computer scope. There have been three
On eBay for years for 700-ish. And for that price they will stay there for more years to come. I spent literally every day for almost a year
On multiple sights to try and find mine... At a good price. I finally placed wanted to by adds
And eventually it paid off. If anybody is considering building a 656 I recommend taking that route.

The e bay scopes are also wrong, at least in s few details . The scopes on the Knights guns are
Very late production ARTs, right before they transitioned to the leatherwood ART2. So the Knights scopes are
Black not the bronze-ish color and they have the ART sticker on the side , which was something common on the ART2
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Yes it is a large hole upper. Anybody ideas about the scope mount?


It was made to work with the factory realist ART mount .
Here is a pic 04ZREX posted a while ago.
<a href="http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/TRIMDAD/media/6A0DEA5D-1D0F-40CA-BE70-08574D3A7D1B.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/TRIMDAD/6A0DEA5D-1D0F-40CA-BE70-08574D3A7D1B.jpg</a>


So there are a few ART scopes on eBay. Are those correct for the 656? This picture is different from those. Sorry I know little about the realist scopes lol


Yes, and no. All depends on your ocd . The correct scope is the realist 3x9 computer scope. There have been three
On eBay for years for 700-ish. And for that price they will stay there for more years to come. I spent literally every day for almost a year
On multiple sights to try and find mine... At a good price. I finally placed wanted to by adds
And eventually it paid off. If anybody is considering building a 656 I recommend taking that route.

The e bay scopes are also wrong, at least in s few details . The scopes on the Knights guns are
Very late production ARTs, right before they transitioned to the leatherwood ART2. So the Knights scopes are
Black not the bronze-ish color and they have the ART sticker on the side , which was something common on the ART2



Thanks for all the info! Guess I'll place a want to buy ad for one
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 12:27:10 AM EDT
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That's what I'd do. I place five adds- M14 forum, sniper hide , arfcom
And..., I forget the other two. But arfcom paid off. It didn't take long,
I was able to get one from a member that had been sitting on top of his
M14 for thirty years barely used. Not long after that ( a year and half ago now)
I had a chance to buy two more at 250$ ea.
And recently almost bought another for 125$.  

Downside is finding one like what's on the Knights gun......
Probably about as rare as finding a factory 656 upper from a retired colt
Exec. But you never know.  

Link Posted: 8/21/2015 2:29:13 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the info! Anybody know how many of these uppers were made?
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 2:45:36 PM EDT
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If you look at Knights wall I think he has a couple with scopes and a couple without.
It also looks like some with out scopes were later modified with garand or M14 rear sights on them.
Strange. I don't know how to search archives but if you do you will come across a thread
With member FRANKSPPD,, or something close to that. He has a lot of first hand info on the
Colt " low sniper upper". He said some were in the hands of colt reps in the 80s(?).
And at least one was up for sale at some point..... But I don't think anyone knows for sure.
Probably Twenty or less?

You can see on the left- one with scope and two without


Here are two that look like they were modified later
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 2:48:16 PM EDT
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O4ZREX took the pics but I pulled them of the Google


Link Posted: 8/21/2015 3:25:45 PM EDT
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Anybody else known to have 656's? I'm trying to get numbers and value on it haha
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 3:34:08 PM EDT
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Not that I've ever heard of. I know of a couple of reproductions by forum members
But never a real factory upper. For that reason... You could ask whatever you wanted I'd think
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 5:56:58 PM EDT
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Yes it is a large hole upper. Anybody ideas about the scope mount?
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Large hole! Oh my! That's just what my RR SP1 needs.
Link Posted: 8/21/2015 7:26:17 PM EDT
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Not that I've ever heard of. I know of a couple of reproductions by forum members
But never a real factory upper. For that reason... You could ask whatever you wanted I'd think
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Not that I've ever heard of. I know of a couple of reproductions by forum members
But never a real factory upper. For that reason... You could ask whatever you wanted I'd think


Well I'm not asking anything for it just getting some info. Any ideas on the barrel markings?
Link Posted: 8/22/2015 10:52:09 AM EDT
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Thanks a bunch for those pics! That really is a neat rifle.
Link Posted: 8/22/2015 9:37:35 PM EDT
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Awesome pics! I wish I had them when I made a replica upper a few years back. I think I got pretty close though?




Link Posted: 8/22/2015 9:40:55 PM EDT
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Im guessing whatever you paid set the values on them
Link Posted: 8/22/2015 9:47:17 PM EDT
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Awesome pics! I wish I had them when I made a replica upper a few years back. I think I got pretty close though?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1797.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1718.jpg
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The one that started it all
Link Posted: 8/24/2015 3:53:39 PM EDT
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Awesome pics! I wish I had them when I made a replica upper a few years back. I think I got pretty close though?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1797.jpg


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Pretty close haha front site is a little different but overall very well made clone! I was thinking of letting this upper go around to a few people so they can make measurements and  do some clones. What are thoughts on that?
Link Posted: 8/24/2015 4:46:51 PM EDT
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Pretty close haha front site is a little different but overall very well made clone! I was thinking of letting this upper go around to a few people so they can make measurements and  do some clones. What are thoughts on that?
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Awesome pics! I wish I had them when I made a replica upper a few years back. I think I got pretty close though?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1797.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1718.jpg


Pretty close haha front site is a little different but overall very well made clone! I was thinking of letting this upper go around to a few people so they can make measurements and  do some clones. What are thoughts on that?


Pass the hat around to let it be 3d laser super techno scanned and then results shared, or send it to someone who won't bogart the measurements for themselves...
Link Posted: 8/24/2015 6:34:08 PM EDT
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Pass the hat around to let it be 3d laser super techno scanned and then results shared, or send it to someone who won't bogart the measurements for themselves...
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Awesome pics! I wish I had them when I made a replica upper a few years back. I think I got pretty close though?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1797.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1718.jpg


Pretty close haha front site is a little different but overall very well made clone! I was thinking of letting this upper go around to a few people so they can make measurements and  do some clones. What are thoughts on that?


Pass the hat around to let it be 3d laser super techno scanned and then results shared, or send it to someone who won't bogart the measurements for themselves...

We have one, But i dont know how to use it, or surface the cad after.

this is what we have at work. with the touch probe and laser scanner.


Link Posted: 8/24/2015 8:52:18 PM EDT
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Pretty close haha front site is a little different but overall very well made clone! I was thinking of letting this upper go around to a few people so they can make measurements and  do some clones. What are thoughts on that?
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Awesome pics! I wish I had them when I made a replica upper a few years back. I think I got pretty close though?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1797.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1718.jpg


Pretty close haha front site is a little different but overall very well made clone! I was thinking of letting this upper go around to a few people so they can make measurements and  do some clones. What are thoughts on that?

Im going to ask a couple guys at work what it would take $ to surface it. Id love to see these hit the retro market.
Link Posted: 8/24/2015 9:05:59 PM EDT
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Im going to ask a couple guys at work what it would take $ to surface it. Id love to see these hit the retro market.
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Awesome pics! I wish I had them when I made a replica upper a few years back. I think I got pretty close though?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1797.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l260/my65pan/000_1718.jpg


Pretty close haha front site is a little different but overall very well made clone! I was thinking of letting this upper go around to a few people so they can make measurements and  do some clones. What are thoughts on that?

Im going to ask a couple guys at work what it would take $ to surface it. Id love to see these hit the retro market.


Yeah let me know for sure to get these going!
Link Posted: 8/25/2015 9:42:50 PM EDT
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Anybody know of the markings on the barrel? Can't find anything about those markings
Link Posted: 8/25/2015 10:43:24 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/678153_Model_656.html

^^^Is this the same 656 from blaznbird's thread???
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