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Posted: 7/27/2015 7:52:00 PM EDT
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=496093939





$240 plus shipping. Maybe I should offer mine to the 2nd place bidder for his high bid.





(Not a heads up post; auction is over and I'm neither seller nor buyer.)

 
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 7:59:06 PM EDT
[#1]
Huh, that guys about 25 minutes away from me.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 8:40:23 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm wondering if someone misread the description and THOUGHT they were getting a genuine Colt stock.    It says "Colt style", might would be easy to read only Colt in their excitement.
Link Posted: 7/27/2015 10:09:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Pissing match amongst the un-initiated
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 5:37:30 AM EDT
[#4]
Considering you can buy a new complete aftermarket kit for half that price

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I'm wondering if someone misread the description and THOUGHT they were getting a genuine Colt stock.    It says "Colt style", might would be easy to read only Colt in their excitement.
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Link Posted: 7/28/2015 6:32:36 AM EDT
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I'm wondering if someone misread the description and THOUGHT they were getting a genuine Colt stock.    It says "Colt style", might would be easy to read only Colt in their excitement.
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It's pretty clear to me in the description that the seller has "no idea who the manufacturer is." Like Hal , I believe this is one of those perfect storms of two buyers who didn't really know what they were bidding on.



I don't have a lot of experience with these even though I have one in my parts box, but aren't they mostly commercial fit also?

Link Posted: 7/28/2015 1:36:00 PM EDT
[#6]
The stock sold was in pretty rough shape too  I saw one at a funshow not too long ago with a similar casting forge for $75 bucks.  It too had the wrinkle finish typical of late '80's early 90's commercial repro's.  I passed on it because my plan would have been to have it stripped powder coated, which would have ended up costing as much as a new repro from EA.
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 3:10:16 PM EDT
[#7]
When Essential Arms offers what they offer, why even bother? I've been LOOKING for a reason to buy another aluminum stock from them.
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 4:10:54 PM EDT
[#8]
I'd be willing to bet the buyer knew just enough about Colt stocks, but not near enough, seen the "Colt style" in the description & the 1 in the last picture & based his bidding off that.
Link Posted: 7/28/2015 4:12:25 PM EDT
[#9]
these are the worst copies too.  the casting is very rough, the checkering on the buttpad are lines that are cut in vs the recessed waffle pattern.  they don't even machine the area under the latch.  bushmaster clones are the closest to colt's.
Link Posted: 7/29/2015 12:50:16 AM EDT
[#10]
The defining question or perhaps acid test  is , will there be real follow through  from  the high bidder paying up and feedback proof of both parties from doing the exchange deal?  Everyone sees high ads but most do not see what the results are after 30 days...Most of these absurd auctions often have no follow through. Well  we remember to check in for feedback on this sale to see?  Plus we'll have the bubba effect of them seeing that and deciding their knock off most be worth that much? More so because they drank the reality show about junk in the attic and/or flea markets  is hidden high dollar treasure kool aid.

The case may also have been  there was a friend/second account driving up the price against the ignorant/mistaken honest bidder.  Ether one person or help of a friend,  2+ different accounts, connecting by proxies, using work, mobile, and/or home ip addresses would make it  hard to catch right away.  Especially with the free wifi from two businesses side by side swapping trick. Using the  old trick of "the  first guy welched, and then comes  the would "you" the second highest place bidder like it for that higher closing price?  Amazing number of marks fall for this scam. Being  more than they bid and which the price was raise falsely by a dishonest and nefarious  bidder/seller.  At lest it isn't the  1,000 words wall of text about said product with somewhere  hidden in the middle "it is only a digital image of said item" as legal sales ad.


I wonder when firearm places will start blocking paypal for helping the 2nd amendment suppourt line?  I've always found it odd that people who are obviously breaking the rules and their word(they agreed to Paypal's TOS and even promote dishonest behavior of mark  the payment as gift or friend....).  Yet expect you to send them money, and  that you'll get things on their word. The sheer numbers of participants is saddening. Says a lot about honor and character in today's age. When it comes time to stand up for the 2nd, we're screwed if people won't even boycott an online payment service.



To bring us back on subject for the forum, how long does a knock off copy have to exist before it becomes itself a collector's item?  Eventually fakes even gain value as collectables.  

I fear retro A1 and A2s are becoming the new M1s for price climb. No longer are we the ones getting the discount bin for a lot of spare parts.
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