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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2005 8:05:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tgrds]
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Intersting, Not wanting to start a flame war or side track this thread into ah that shite again, but I noticed in the below photo of Bushmasters modified carrier/buffer assembly sure looks like it would function like a M16 full outo carrier. Food for thought home.gci.net/~shuler/CarbonBolt4.JPG |
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Posted: 3/30/2005 8:33:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NAM]
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How Dare you! Bushmaster themselves deemed M16 carriers in an AR15 illegal!!! lol.... Note how both the M16 carrier and the Bushy pistol carrier have the shrouded firing pin, and the sear engagement is the same. Bushy pistol carrier:  M16 carrier  AR15 carrier  |
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Posted: 3/31/2005 1:47:47 AM EDT
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Look at the photo below. Note that they are lined up as close as possible so that you can tell the rear end of the bushy carrier is actually FORWARD of the sear trip point of an M16. In fact, the carrier would fail to go into battery if you had the auto-sear installed. If, however, you were to use the bushy carrier with the bottom cut off, the front of the buffer is in exactly the right spot to trip the sear. This would involve modifying the carrier and therefore, the Bushy carrier is legal. 
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Posted: 4/2/2005 10:12:04 PM EDT
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TAG
(Page 21 for personal reference) 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2005 10:27:12 PM EDT
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If the bolt is not picking up a new round, does that mean the spring is too strong?
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Posted: 4/5/2005 10:41:01 PM EDT
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Could be, but I would check to make sure you are getting enough gas. I would put my money on a gas problem before a spring problem. That would have to be one overpowering spring to keep the carrier/bolt from coming back far enough to pick up a fresh round.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/6/2005 12:03:30 PM EDT
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there needs to be one for sure |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2005 6:50:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: linebaugh500]
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finally got my regesterd pistol runining right (needed an adjustable gas block) so its time to post a pic. BTW my wife says she wishes i had an adjustable gas block
 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2005 12:10:55 AM EDT
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So what are exactly the do's and dont's of what parts to get, buffer tubes etc? Adjustable gas tubes? Whats the most reliable way to go?
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USA
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Posted: 4/8/2005 3:57:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: starjones]
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May I ask for some clarification on the proper way to ask that a Form 4473 be filled out when purchasing stripped lowers? In Section B, for the type of firearm to be transferred section, I believe the options are Handgun, Long Gun or Both. Does it matter whether Handgun or Long Gun is checked when purchasing a stripped lower? (In my state, it would as I would need a purchase permit if it were checked as Handgun. If I am not mistaken, I can purchase a Long Gun from a neighboring state, but would not be able to purchase a Handgun outside of my state unless I had it shipped to an FFL in my state and fileld out the Form 4473/picked it up there.) In Section D, where the firearm information is filled out, is this where I need to ask that the TYPE be entered as either STRIPPED LOWER or PISTOL LOWER? If Long Gun is checked in Section B and STRIPPED LOWER is entered in Section D, does that allow me to use that lower for a pistol build and register it as a pistol in my state (my state requires pistols to be registered)? The letter from the ATF is obviously a little vague in that the only stipulation listed is to "make certain your dealer does not describe them (stripped lowers) as rifles on ATF From 4473." |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2005 6:04:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tec9]
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Here is my rra pistol
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/tec15/IM000082.jpg |
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USA
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Posted: 4/8/2005 7:35:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomp]
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May I ask for some clarification on the proper way to ask that a Form 4473 be filled out when purchasing stripped lowers?
In Section B, for the type of firearm to be transferred section, I believe the options are Handgun, Long Gun or Both. Does it matter whether Handgun or Long Gun is checked when purchasing a stripped lower? (In my state, it would as I would need a purchase permit if it were checked as Handgun. If I am not mistaken, I can purchase a Long Gun from a neighboring state, but would not be able to purchase a Handgun outside of my state unless I had it shipped to an FFL in my state and fileld out the Form 4473/picked it up there.) In Section D, where the firearm information is filled out, is this where I need to ask that the TYPE be entered as either STRIPPED LOWER or PISTOL LOWER? If Long Gun is checked in Section B and STRIPPED LOWER is entered in Section D, does that allow me to use that lower for a pistol build and register it as a pistol in my state (my state requires pistols to be registered)? The letter from the ATF is obviously a little vague in that the only stipulation listed is to "make certain your dealer does not describe them (stripped lowers) as rifles on ATF From 4473." Yes, just call it a pistol on the 4473. Just don't EVER put a stock on it and it stays a pistol. The sucky part is that pistols have to be shipped overnight air and long guns can be shipped ground. So whenever I order a stripped lower, I have to pay extra just because it's called a pistol, even though it's the same lower as a rifle. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2005 8:30:10 PM EDT
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Nice! I like that look. |
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Posted: 4/10/2005 8:58:11 AM EDT
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Besides Oly, who else makes the 4 rail tubes for these? I just want to know what my options are.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2005 12:29:42 PM EDT
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{ Images updated on page 1}
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2005 7:55:20 PM EDT
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What do I gotta do to put on a vertical grip to the ar pistol. Ive heard somewhere its a 5 dollar tax.
Moderator should really tack this thread. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2005 9:59:08 PM EDT
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AR pistol in action:
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2005 10:17:06 PM EDT
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If you bought one that came from the factory like this it would already be an AOW so it would only be a $5 tax to transfer it. If you wanted to add the foregrip to one you would have to submit a Form 1 for manufacturing an AOW and it's a $200 tax. |
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Posted: 4/10/2005 10:44:57 PM EDT
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My contribution to the thread:
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Posted: 4/11/2005 2:39:15 AM EDT
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What bolt carrier system did you use? Bushy or cut standard? Do you have a range report yet? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 8:58:11 AM EDT
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Okay, so is it the general consensus that I am good to go as long as From 4473 is noted as a HANDGUN in Section B and a STRIPPED LOWER or PISTOL LOWER in Section D? If Long Gun is checked in Section B and Section D says STRIPPED LOWER, I am gathering that it would be best not to build a pistol off that lower. Just so I am clear, there is no point in messing around with a pistol marked lower from someone like Ameetec as long as the Form 4473 is fille dout properly? |
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Posted: 4/11/2005 9:19:18 AM EDT
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It is a Bushmaster carrier system. I just got the thing put togather, but I'll give a range report when I get a chance to shoot it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 9:55:33 AM EDT
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I have a virgin built Mega pistol too, and it is not against the law.... It bothers me that there are so many of us Arfcomers out there who sweat the making of a pistol. Virgin Build, unmarked, recievers are LEGAL!!! The thread should be as clear about that as possible. Your remark to sell and rebuild was unreasonable. I am not looking for a fight, so please just take this with some salt, but I have read all the posts I could find out here and there is always one guy who is scared of a non marked LEGAL build.
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Posted: 4/11/2005 11:15:47 AM EDT
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When you look at any national law or regulation, you cannot find any requirements that a pistol must say pistol and that a pistol cannot say "Rifle" on it somewhere. The burden of proof is still on you, though, if you take a stripped Bushmaster lower (which is logged at the factory as a Rifle in spite of being a stripped lower) and then build it into a pistol. That is, you must ensure that it was logged as a pistol and perhaps get a copy of your 4473. 1IV: The reason you hear ARFCommers out there spouting this stuff is because is because we've all heard the stories and some of us have experienced the ignorance. Even people who are supposedly 'in the know' are ignorant of the laws, regulations, court cases, opinions, and overally muddied realities of AR-15 Pistols. How many qualified people have not gotten their Class-III weapons because of this? Pistols are even scarier to this type because there is no knowledgeable dealers out there telling them it's okay. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 4:41:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: starjones]
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So, if Bushmaster (or RRA, or DPMS, or insert other brand here) logs out their stripped lowers as rifles, can a FFL dealer change the status of a lower just by receiving it in and logging it as a handgun/pistol on their books and then transferring it to the end user as a handgun/pistol on the Form 4473??????? I would like to get a RRA or DPMS stripped lower to do a pistol build, but I do not want to deal with anything "questionable" or have to file a Form 1 to convert it from rifle to pistol status. ETA: What exactly are the acceptable TYPES of firearm that can be listed on Form 4473? I was aware of Pistol, Rifle and Shotgun, but wasn't sure if STRIPPED LOWER was an acceptable TYPE of firearm. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 5:16:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Look it's as simple as this:
Buy a brand new lower. And when the FFL does your background check he has to make it as a PISTOL, thats it! |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 6:30:38 PM EDT
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And the FFL does this by waving a magic wand over it and sprinkling a little of his magic dust on it??? Or is it a slight of hand thing, where the FFL covers it with a cloth and makes the RIFLE lower disappear and then puts the magic cloth back on the empty spot and when he pulls the cloth away the second time a PISTOL lower magically appears? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 6:36:52 PM EDT
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ok, you're borderlining insulting on that one... go back and read through this ENTIRE thread, then you'll find the answers you need. many many people enjoy arguing about this topic. call and speak to a manufacturer (like OLY or MEGA or Bushmaster) and ask them EXACTLY how this process works. -Jason |
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Posted: 4/11/2005 6:37:31 PM EDT
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A stripped lower is not a rifle. It is a stripped lower. Have your ffl fill out the paperwork for a pistol or stripped lower and you are good to go. That's it. No magic. It's not that hard. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 7:30:21 PM EDT
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No disrespect Noner and DigDug, but I did exactly what Noner suggested and called Bushmaster on 2 separate occasions in the last week and both times I was told they do not sell stripped PISTOL lowers. They specifically directed me to my local BATFE office and suggested I ask for a Form 1 if I wanted to manufacture a pistol from one of their stripped rifle lowers, which they said they book as RIFLES. I realize their stripped lowers may not be built into a readily recognizable rifle shape, but they are still a firearm and Bushmaster says they build and book them as rifles as they are selling them with the expectation that they will be sold as rifles and built as rifles.
I am not trying to insult anyone. I read the entire thread and it is less than clear. I also called RRA and DPMS and asked the same question and received very similar answers. What I can't seem to reconcile are the few things I asked in my previous posts. I realize I may be an idiot, but I didn't get any information indicating it was as easy as just telling the FFL to sell me the stripped lower as a Handgun and indicate the type of firearm as a PISTOL. May I suggest either or both of you call Bushmaster, RRA or DPMS if you think the answers I got were incorrect and inform them of the proper way they should be telling people to do things. Hopefully that will prevent them from giving out the wrong information to anyone else. I'll get out of your guys hair and just skip the pistol build for now. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 7:55:07 PM EDT
[#31]
Great, then don't buy from Bushmaster. Buy from Mega who has lowers made as pistols.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 7:56:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Noner]
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I've had personal conversations with the owner (and the son of the owner) of Olympic arms on this topic. (during the OACAD2 Event)
Some companies dont sell lowers listed as pistols, because they dont want to stop the ease of the production process, to simply list them as something else in the books. Olympic sells Pistol lowers, Marked. (OA98 Pistols) MEGA sells stripped Pistol lowers, Marked and Unmarked. (MEGA PISTOL marked) Other companies sell marked and un-marked pistols. Maybe the other conglomorate companies dont want to give you a straight answer.... just dont bash anyone here, and dont trash the thread. -Jason |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 8:11:32 PM EDT
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I wasn't trying to bash anyone or the thread. Buying a known PISTOL lower from a specific manufacturer that makes PISTOL lowers and having that PISTOL lower transferred to me as a PISTOL by my FFL is a lot different than just buying a stripped rifle lower and having an FFL book it in and transfers it as a PISTOL.
I am not sure I want a lower from Oly, Mega or Ameetec right now, but at least I understand that if I want to build an AR pistol, I guess I need to do it with a honest to goodness PISTOL lower, not a stripped rifle lower. Thanks for clarifying. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2005 9:10:24 PM EDT
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Starjones,
I would suggest giving the folks at Stag a call. They can get you a stripped lower and a letter stating what you need to give you that extra margin of security that you want. If you have any concerns about the Stag lower, please do a search to confirm what I am about to type. My Stag lower is of a quality that I would rate higher than my Bushmaster lower. It fits all of my uppers better than my Bushmaster, and the finish is as good or better. The price is good, the quality is great, and they want to help with the pistol building process. One other point to be made regarding Bushmaster. Given their history with litigation, the size of the company, the fact that their production and sales are preety darn high, and the fact that they sell a COMPLETE PISTOL, why would they want to go to any additional length to help us build our own pistols? Just some food for thought, from someone who has just gone down the same road that you are contemplating. Craig |
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Posted: 4/12/2005 2:47:25 AM EDT
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This can all be solved by simply buying MEGA or STINGER receivers and keep your pistol business away from Bushmaster, DPMS, or any of the other mentioned non-compliance folks. Bottom line is that the company cannot call a rifle a rifle by the BATFE's definition unless it has had a shoulder stock installed. Sans-shoulder-stock means it's a component receiver. The only thing you need from Bushmaster was how they sold the receiver to the dealer or wholesaler. If it was a stripped lower, then the invoice from either the dealer or wholesaler will reflect that it is neither a full rifle nor a shoulder-stocked lower (which they also sell). You can identify that with the model number or other description and a corresponding catalog.
Again and quite frankly, get your receiver elseware. Bushmaster has a vested interest in selling carbon-15 pistols and not much of an interest in supplying lowers to this VERY SMALL niche market. They have absolutely no problem telling ME exactly how to do it, which parts to use, and the such but they don't want to log their guns out as anything but rifles. |
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Posted: 4/12/2005 2:53:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BadgerArms]
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For the record, the CURRENT Bushmaster part numbers for lowers without stocks are:
ALOW W/OSTK www.bushmaster.com/shopping/lowers/alowwostk.asp  and: 9349102-S www.bushmaster.com/shopping/lowers/9349102-s.asp 
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ME, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 2:44:58 PM EDT
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FWIW- my experience:
I just bought a new stripped Bushy lower, and told the dealer exactly what i had planned. He had no problem with it, and gladly transferred it to me on the 4473 as a "pistol", "Stripped pistol receiver". No where does it say rifle or long gun. So i am good to go. The interesting thing, as i noted in a different thread a while back, was i called Bushmaster, and got a guy the obviously didnt know what he was talking about. (long story short: he said that to make a pistol lower, it had to be "engraved" with the word pistol, and thats it.... total BS). BUT- even though he didnt know anything about making pistols out of stripped lowers, he DID confirm "stripped lower" status for me (not "long gun"), also confirming that it had never been assembled into a rifle. I think some manufacturer employees who arent totally clear on the subject, just play it safe to avoid any problems. Me, i will heed the 24 pages of advice in this thread, and move forward with an AR15 pistol 
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Posted: 4/12/2005 3:27:28 PM EDT
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Holy Freaking Cow, what part of this letter do some people NOT understand? It could NOT be more clear! Go ahead and waste your money on a "special" pistol lower if you want, no skin off my nose, but unless there are some state regs regarding the special use of a "pistol" lower you do not need anything special about the lower other than it not having been assembled into a complete rifle. People over think this too much. The ATFE could not have been more clear so quit trying to read something nefarious between the lines. It "ain't" there.
 Let's see now, how many times have I posted this damned letter and said I would not post it again? |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 4:10:30 PM EDT
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I understand! I understand! You understand that i understand, right? Just want us all to understand who is understanding and who isnt understanding. |
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Posted: 4/12/2005 4:45:31 PM EDT
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Patpimp, as I am sure you know I did not direct my above post to you or anyone in particular, only to those who doggedly hold on the mistaken belief that the lower must be somehow mysteriously logged in by the maker as a pistol. Also as you know, all that BS about the maker having to log in the lower special as a pistol lower or having to engrave "pistol" on it only serves as an excuse for the maker to charge more money for the "special" lower. Of course, there may be state laws that might require all this nonsense in some states, but there are sure no Federal laws that require it.
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USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 4:51:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: starjones]
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It ain't there is right. The letter says it is okay to build a RIFLE receiver into a pistol configuration as long as the word rifle doesn't appear on the Form 4473. For goodness sake, if it is a RIFLE receiver, please enlighten me as to how the transfer needs to be done??? Does the transfer need to be done as a HANDGUN or LONG GUN??? I already know the part about filling in the TYPE OF FIREARM as STRIPPED LOWER, but does it matter if it is transferred as a HANDGUN or LONG GUN??? I don't want to guess or assume, so if anyone knows with certainty, please beat it into me!!!! Sorry for being one of the people that don;t understand, but I just wanted to know what the difference is between a RIFLE receiver that is transferred as a HANDGUN and listed as a STRIPPED LOWER versus a RIFLE receiver that is transferred as a LONG GUN and listed as a STRIPPED LOWER???? This is what I didn't see mentioned in the letter, so please beat the answer into me if you must! |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 7:39:52 PM EDT
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haha, i know.  BTW- i appreciate the advice you have given me, the forum, and others on pistol builds, even though you get frustrated sometimes!Crap, 24 pages and growing, is plenty of info (and pics!) on this topic! Starjones- after reading bigbores letter and all the info on this forum i have come to the conclusion that: It doesnt matter what the manufacturer logs the receiver as, as long as it has NEVER been assembled into a rifle. So, from the manufacturer, it doesnt matter what you call it, pistol, rifle, stripped lower, douche bag, whatever (again, just as long as it was never ASSEMBLED as a rifle). THEN- to do the transfer, on the 4473, said "stripped lower" NEEDS to be transferred with NO mention of "rifle" or "long gun" on the form, and better yet, have the dealer sell it to you as a "pistol" or "pistol stripped lower", or "stripped lower, pistol". My dealer marked all over the damn thing the word "pistol", but where it asked for handgun/long gun/stripped lower, he checked "stripped lower", and wrote in "pistol" again next to it. So, in keeping with bigbore's ATF letter, I purchased a stripped lower that 1: I have verified with Bushmaster has never been assembled into a rifle, 2: Followed the correct procedure when having the dealer fill out the 4473. GTG! (bigbore- did i get that right?!) |
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USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 8:56:07 PM EDT
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You still seem to be missing the point. BATFE states in the letter that it is a RIFLE receiver. I fail to see how it is okay for a FFL dealer to transfer a RIFLE as a HANDGUN regardless of whether it is indicated as a stripped lower or a douche bag as you so eloqunetly put it. If it is a RIFLE receiver, common sense would dictate that it needs to be transferred as a LONG GUN and listed as a stripped lower or douche bag if you prefer. This is why I am confused by the comments being thrown about in this thread. No matter how you slice it, a stripped AR lower is still a RIFLE RECEIVER in the eyes of BATFE unless it was specifically documented as a PISTOL receiver. With that said, I do understand that the BATFE letter states it is okay to build a stripped RIFLE receiver into a PISTOL configuration as long as the word RIFLE is not listed anywhere on the FORM 4473. I can see I am not going to get any further here, so I will wait to hear back from my local office and get my own letter from them, if necessary. |
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Posted: 4/12/2005 9:03:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DigDug]
[#44]
A stripped receiver is a stripped receiver. It does not become a rifle receiver until it is assembled into a rifle, according the ATF. Once it has been assembled into a rifle, it's always a rifle. If you get a receiver that has never been built into a rifle (stripped from the factory) it can be a pistol. If the factory put buttstocks on all their stripped receivers, then took them off and mailed them out, you would have rifle receivers. It doesn't matter what people call them. It has to do with them being assembled into RIFLES.
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Posted: 4/12/2005 9:18:21 PM EDT
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The reason there's so much confusion is that the LAW states that you cannot own a "Pistol made from a Rifle" however it says nothing about making a pistol into a rifle and then back into a pistol. What they are saying is that if you take a weapon that has had a shoulder stock, you're free to take the shoulder stock off so long as the barrel remains over 16". If, however, you put a shorter barrel on it, you've 'made' a pistol from a rifle. If you start out with a stripped receiver, you must first build it into a rifle then a pistol to be in violation of the law. The other way around and the rifle is, in fact, a pistol much like the Contender is still a pistol when you put a conversion kit on in the right order. Confused enough yet?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 9:46:37 PM EDT
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Why this thread isnt tacked boggles my mind
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USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 10:41:03 PM EDT
[#47]
Last reply I promise.
DigDug - The letter that is posted from BATFE does not say receiver only, IT SAYS RIFLE RECEIVER. I understand what you are saying, but it doesn't answer my question. Apparently BATFE seems to think they are RIFLE receivers, and seems to say it is okay to build a pistol out of a rifle receiver as long as it is transferred (or picked up) properly. BadgerArms - I am fully aware of the legality of the Thompson Contender pistols and the various conversion units that utilize a Glock/1911 pistol receiver and turn them into a rifle and then back again. The fact remains, no one has answered my question yet. If the law states that no one can own a "pistol made from a rifle", than the BATFE letter contradicts that since it says it is legal to build a pistol out of a RIFLE receiver as long as you do it a certain way. Am I reading a different BATFE letter than you guys? All I am trying to figure out is how a stripped lower receiver that BATFE considers to be a RIFLE receiver (they said it in the letter, not me) can be transferred as a HANDGUN, or if that is even necessary. All I see in the letter is the statement to make sure the word RIFLE isn't written on the Form 4473. I think you guys are reading way to much into what I am asking or for some reason I am not explaining it properly. |
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Posted: 4/12/2005 10:47:51 PM EDT
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Here it is, one more time:
"For your information, a rifle receiver that has never been barreled and/or stocked as a rifle may be utilized in the manufacture of a pistol." In other words, a rifle receiver is NOT A RIFLE until it has a buttstock on it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2005 11:06:31 PM EDT
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When they say "rifle receiver" they are referring to a receiver NORMALLY used to make a rifle. That would include an AR lower, and AK receiver, or even a Remington 700 receiver. Normally these are rifle receivers, but it does not become a "rifle" until it is assembled by the first build into a rifle with a rifle length barrel or butt stock. That receiver before it is assembled the first time is just a receiver. So, get your lower, document it on the 4473 that it is anything but a rifle lower, and have your receipt for your lower that will, or should, state that it is a stripped lower receiver. IF you can get a letter from the maker saying it was never assembled into a rifle, so much the better, but it is not needed. If you buy a stripped lower from any maker they are not going to sell you a receiver that has been assembled and then disassembled unless it is used. So buy your lower with your receipt showing it was bought as a stripped lower from the maker or dealer, sold as NEW, do the 4473 and describe it as anything but a rifle, and you are good to go. Now, do your build of a pistol and take a few pictures to show it was first assembled into a pistol and from that point on that lower is a PISTOL lower. First build determines what that chunk of metal is for all time forward unless you take the needed steps to change it such as SBRing it.
One you build it as a pistol you are free to put on a rifle upper and butt stock to switch from pistol to rifle configuration and then when you are ready, go back to pistol again such as you can do with the TC Contender/Encore, with the caveat that you never have the pistol barrel on when the butt stock is attached. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/12/2005 11:40:50 PM EDT
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Now I feel really stupid for posting again. I am not having any difficulty understanding the stuff that you guys continue to post. The last remaining confusion I still have is with the transfer itself. If a stripped RIFLE receiver is not technically a RIFLE, then does the TRANSFER have to be indicated as a HANDGUN or LONG GUN or does that indication NOT MATTER, since technically the RIFLE receiver is not really a RIFLE or a PISTOL??? Does anyone have the clarification on that particular question? Am I not asking the question the proper way?
Basically, if my dealer calls in the NICS check and says LONG GUN and checks the LONG GUN box on FORM 4473 Section B, does that automatically mean any lower transferred on that form must be built into a rifle configuration even if the type of firearm in Section D is listed as stripped lower? Please note that the word RIFLE would not appear on the Form 4473 anywhere. |
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