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The AR15 PISTOL INFORMATION THREAD !!!
Noner  [Member]
Its 12:20 AM on SEPT 13.

I just had to build my first, but not last AR15 pistol!!

(yes its legally registered as a pistol!)

Here are some pictures to start the Thread Rolling... I wanna see everyone's new Toys!

-Jason

ATF View on making an AR15 Pistol from a Virgin Receiver. (page1 post by labrat454)

www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/wbardwel/public/nfalist/atf_letter7.txt

Problems with M1S buffer system. (Pages 6-8)





edited (dont mind the fingerprints, I was too much in a hurry to see it built to clean it)
edited #2 (new pictures on Page 2)













Update: I'm trying a different aproach to the buffer system.






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Atreides  [Member]
Gorgeous! What a great looking AR you have there!
BravoCompanyUSA  [Dealer]
Man that is a pretty sight.
A new built AR pistol.
Probably the first Mega Pistol in History
10 years is a long time to wait, but it is a beautiful sunset!
five-five-six  [Member]
what kind of optics are going to be used?
jmz5  [Team Member]
stag-master pistol w/ M-6
Noner  [Member]

Originally Posted By BravoCompanyUSA:
Man that is a pretty sight.
A new built AR pistol.
Probably the first Mega Pistol in History
10 years is a long time to wait, but it is a beautiful sunset!




I had to wait along time... and make alot of phone calls, but I think it was worth it in the end!!

I think I will put my Carry Handle on it, or maybe a Holo-Sight of some kind...

I would really like to see everyone else's new AR15 Pistols too!!

-Jason
123whisper  [Member]
Getting ready to deploy the winter trigger guard?

I was thinking about building an AR15 pistol in some heavy caliber for deer hunting. Our hunting laws would mandate that it not be semiauto so no gas port, just straight pull.

Then I remembered that I am not 21, so I could not have a lower transfered to me as a pistol.


Strange how it is the same part, but what the ffl puts on the sheet would make it illegal.
Shooter521  [Member]
Noner:

Nice pic, but where's your bolt catch?

Noner  [Member]

Originally Posted By Shooter521:
Noner:

Nice pic, but where's your bolt catch?




I knew someone would notice.... and the trigger guard is also not latched into place yet..

besides that... I'm done.

I didnt want to pound the Roll Pin in at 12:00 and wake the rest of the house...

I'll get it done when I get home from work.

-Jason
millsusaf  [Member]

Originally Posted By Noner:
Its 12:20 AM on SEPT 13.

I just had to build my first, but not last AR15 pistol!!

(yes its legally registered as a pistol!)

Here are some pictures to start the Thread Rolling... I wanna see everyone's new Toys!

-Jason



edited (dont mind the fingerprints, I was too much in a hurry to see it built to clean it)



Is all I have to do it have one of the lowers I buy transfered to me as a pistol? Thanks
labrat454  [Team Member]
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jar3ds  [Member]
can we attach forward pistol grips to the front of pistols now?
bgenlvtex  [Member]

Originally Posted By jar3ds:
can we attach forward pistol grips to the front of pistols now?





No. Forward pistol grip = A.O.W.
Sidx  [Member]
Is there a FAQ for AR15 Pistols?????

Barrel length, etc ?

or is the veritcal grip the only thing to worry about now ?


CAPITALIST  [Team Member]
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Noner  [Member]
Pistols have to be registered at the factory as "pistols" in their books, then sold to dealers as "pistols" then sold to the public and registered as "pistols"..

nope, no forward handgrips or stocks on these guns...

-Jason
beernut  [Member]
I'll bet the muzzle blast on that thing is a bitch
labrat454  [Team Member]
Here is the ATF view on making an AR pistol

www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/atf_letter7.txt

October 1, 1992


Firearms Technical Branch
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
650 Mass. Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20226

Dear Sirs:

The Greensboro, NC BATF Compliance Office suggested that I write to
you for information on the following point.

I am interested on whether it is possible to have a commercially
manufactured rifle receiver changed to be legally considered to be a handgun
receiver, and how this can be done. The Compliance Office said that this
might be possible via a "Letter of Determination", but advised me to write
to you about the criteria and procedures.

For example, if a person has a rifle receiver and wishes to have it
built into a rifle-caliber handgun suitable for steel silhouette target
shooting, comparable to the bolt action Remington XP-100 handgun. I
understand that the serial number of this receiver is recorded as being for a
rifle. Could this person have this receiver's serial number considered to be
a handgun receiver? If so, what procedures and paperwork would be
necessary.

Sincerely,

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Oct 29 1992
Dear Mr. XXXXX:

This refers to your letter of October 1, 1992, in which you inquire
about the legality of manufacturing a handgun which utilizes a rifle
type receiver.

26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 # 5845(a)(4), the National Firearms Act (NFA),
defines the term "firearm" to include a weapon made from a rifle if
such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches
or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.

Utilizing the receiver of an existing rifle for the purposes of
manufacturing a handgun would constitute the making of a firearm as
defined above. Individuals desiring to make such a firearm must first
submit an ATF Form 1, Application To Make And Register a Firearm and
pay the applicable $200 making tax.

If an individual were to obtain a rifle type receiver that had not
previously been utilized in the assembly of a rifle, a handgun could be
made and not be subject to the provisions of the NFA. Verification
must be obtained from the manufacturer of the receiver to establish
its authenticity.

We trust the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. If we may
be of any further assistance, please contact us.

Sincerely your,
(signed)
Edward M. Owen, Jr.
Chief, Firearms Technology Branch

nationwide  [Team Member]
Those are nice pics! I'd love to build an AR pistol, I have a brand new DPMS lower sitting around waiting to be built.

But how do these kit's work? I was always under the impression that the OA-93 or whatever was the only one that functioned reliably.

NEED INPUT.
Noner  [Member]

Originally Posted By nationwide:
Those are nice pics! I'd love to build an AR pistol, I have a brand new DPMS lower sitting around waiting to be built.

But how do these kit's work? I was always under the impression that the OA-93 or whatever was the only one that functioned reliably.

NEED INPUT.



I'd reccomend selling your DPMS lower, and buying a new lower that has been registered as a pistol..

I'll post picts and give a range report this weekend..

keep checking back!

-Jason
-Duke-Nukem-  [Team Member]
Not trying to piss in anyone's pool, I just need clarification. I understand that adding a forward pistol grip to this gun makes it an AOW. Does adding a regular forend also make it an AOW? If so, doesn't Jason's admittedly small forend on his Mega create an AOW? What about jmz5's setup?
Noner  [Member]
sure no problem!

ok, the ATF considers a "second" pistol grip to be an AOW. a forend grip on the upper is not considered to be a second pistol grip.

Check out the Pre-ban OLY OA-93's

-Jason
Corporal_Chaos  [Team Member]

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Not trying to piss in anyone's pool, I just need clarification. I understand that adding a forward pistol grip to this gun makes it an AOW. Does adding a regular forend also make it an AOW? If so, doesn't Jason's admittedly small forend on his Mega create an AOW? What about jmz5's setup?



Just plain forearms are no longer banned, but they were about 24 hours ago.
martinmayhem  [Team Member]
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-Duke-Nukem-  [Team Member]

Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Not trying to piss in anyone's pool, I just need clarification. I understand that adding a forward pistol grip to this gun makes it an AOW. Does adding a regular forend also make it an AOW? If so, doesn't Jason's admittedly small forend on his Mega create an AOW? What about jmz5's setup?



Just plain forearms are no longer banned, but they were about 24 hours ago.



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Colt_sporter  [Member]
I don't see many pics here....but then again I'm not contributing either...I work away from home...however when I get home and build up that kit I ordered...I'll be posting a pic
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