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Posted: 2/12/2014 11:50:37 AM EDT
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I understand that........but if the MATEN is supposed to take ar lower parts why wouldn't one of the others work as well?
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Posted: 2/12/2014 12:57:53 PM EDT
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I understand that........but if the MATEN is supposed to take ar lower parts why wouldn't one of the others work as well? Because, the bolt catch/release is one of the few items that is not AR15 agnositc. It's a specific/dedicated AR 308 part. Thus, you need to use the 308 version. Edit: I use the Phase 5 308 bolt catch and it works perfectly. You'll be happy with it. |
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Posted: 2/17/2014 8:18:59 AM EDT
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Thanks! sounds good
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Posted: 2/17/2014 8:30:11 AM EDT
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wait.....did your MATEN not come with a bolt catch? mine had one already installed...
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Posted: 2/17/2014 10:17:20 AM EDT
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wait.....did your MATEN not come with a bolt catch? mine had one already installed... I'm sure it did, because like you said, they all do. I'm guessing he wants to swap it out for an ambi one. |
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Posted: 2/17/2014 8:01:22 PM EDT
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no i was just wanting a b.a.d. type bolt catch/release
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Posted: 2/17/2014 11:22:30 PM EDT
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I just want my receivers!!!! Grrrrr!!!!!
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Posted: 2/18/2014 4:42:44 PM EDT
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I just want my receivers!!!! Grrrrr!!!!! +1 |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 8:51:49 PM EDT
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RCA bolt carriers? any luck or reviews? or alpha carriers?
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Posted: 2/21/2014 7:28:16 PM EDT
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Got my mount and got my MK 8 mounted. I'll be heading to the range this week to get her sighted in.
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Posted: 2/21/2014 7:29:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my mount and got my MK 8 mounted. I'll be heading to the range this week to get her sighted in. http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m504/Fozzy8/image_zps9c18831e.jpg I might be tempted to switch to that. |
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Posted: 2/22/2014 12:02:15 PM EDT
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Do your upper receiver have m4 feed ramps? And if not where did you get your rifle feed ramp extension?
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Posted: 2/22/2014 6:42:16 PM EDT
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Can someone explain high profile uppers and rails to me?
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Posted: 2/22/2014 9:04:25 PM EDT
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Do your upper receiver have m4 feed ramps? And if not where did you get your rifle feed ramp extension? I took mine to the University of Dremel and got my feed ramps added. I tried to find a cratex bit for it, but couldn't find it so I must used a mild grinder and went very slow. I would not have done it at all but I had trouble with the long bullet profile of the 140gr Berger (my rifle is in 6.5 Creedmoor). All other bullets fed fine without the ramps, but feed smoother now. |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 6:30:20 PM EDT
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I'm getting ready to build my first .308 using the Mega Maten ambi set. Buffer question.... Is there any functional difference between a DPMS .308 CAR buffer that can be had for $25-$35 and one of the $99 buffers at heavy buffers.com that are referenced throughout this thread?
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Posted: 2/25/2014 8:05:25 PM EDT
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I'm getting ready to build my first .308 using the Mega Maten ambi set. Buffer question.... Is there any functional difference between a DPMS .308 CAR buffer that can be had for $25-$35 and one of the $99 buffers at heavy buffers.com that are referenced throughout this thread? In terms of differences I don't know, but I'm using a DPMS .308 carbine buffer and .308 carbine buffer spring and it functions fine. This is with an AR-15 carbine buffer tube, 16" Rainier barrel and a Syrac adjustable gas block. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 7:06:52 PM EDT
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Can an armalite rifle length buffer work with a jp bolt carrier group
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Posted: 2/26/2014 7:53:32 PM EDT
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Can an armalite rifle length buffer work with a jp bolt carrier group Yes. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 8:09:44 PM EDT
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My extended MKM is on the Fedex truck on its way to me :) All I need now is a barrel and BCG!!!
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Posted: 2/27/2014 4:44:26 PM EDT
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My extended MKM is on the Fedex truck on its way to me :) All I need now is a barrel and BCG!!! Where did you get it from. Mine is in a ups truck and I will have it Monday thanks to Dwayne at stonefire arms!!!! |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 5:36:12 PM EDT
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Is the MATEN upper high or low profile?
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Posted: 2/27/2014 5:42:28 PM EDT
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Well, I'm finally getting somewhere with my MaTen build. Sorry for the lousy pic. Here it is thus far...
Waiting for optics availability. Man,these things are sweet! 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 6:00:41 PM EDT
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Is the MATEN upper high or low profile? DPMS high |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 7:36:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone explain high profile uppers and rails to me? In short, DPMS has somehow come to define certain terms in the aftermarket .308 AR circles. Their pre August ( I think ) 2009 uppers has a rail height that was taller than their current ( POST Aug 2009 ) offerings. Lots of vendors now define their accessories as to whether they match pre or post August 2009 rail heights. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 8:05:43 PM EDT
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Thanks to all for the plethora of info and suggestions on Mega MaTen builds!
I just got my Mega MaTen MKM Keymod MKM-4420-HA-SA set in today with a Mega 20" barrel. I've got the rest of my components ordered and will post pics when complete. CMMG LPK 308 DRD BCG 308 DPMS PATTERN NIB-X TIMNEY Trigger Solid 3lbs Rainier Arms Lo-Pro Gas Block Ergo DLX w/ Palm Shelf AR 10 Heavy Buffer & Spring Phase5 308 Charging Handle Phase5 Extended Bolt Release SJC Titan Compensator Magpul PRS AR10 Stock American Defense Recon1 Scope Mount Vortex Viper PST Scope Stay tuned! 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 10:16:09 PM EDT
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....and I am still dying for my receivers....
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Posted: 2/27/2014 10:43:55 PM EDT
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I got my matched set this week, very sweet stuff. Only draw back is that the upper is a matte finish and the lower is a gloss finish, which is very surprising since they are a matched set... Anyone else have this? I got my set from JSESurplus, sub 2000 serial. It isn't a huge issue, nothing functionally wrong with it, just looks odd.
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Posted: 2/28/2014 4:16:26 AM EDT
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I got my matched set this week, very sweet stuff. Only draw back is that the upper is a matte finish and the lower is a gloss finish, which is very surprising since they are a matched set... Anyone else have this? I got my set from JSESurplus, sub 2000 serial. It isn't a huge issue, nothing functionally wrong with it, just looks odd. That sounds kind of odd to me. Maybe a customer "return" containing a swapped upper (or something along those lines) that simply slipped through JSE's return inspection? 
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Posted: 2/28/2014 9:37:41 AM EDT
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Where did you get it from. Mine is in a ups truck and I will have it Monday thanks to Dwayne at stonefire arms!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My extended MKM is on the Fedex truck on its way to me :) All I need now is a barrel and BCG!!! Where did you get it from. Mine is in a ups truck and I will have it Monday thanks to Dwayne at stonefire arms!!!! I got mine from Rainier Arms, and I just ordered my BCG. :) |
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Posted: 2/28/2014 11:09:08 AM EDT
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waiting on my barrel. I have the extended length mkm.
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Posted: 2/28/2014 7:25:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got my matched set this week, very sweet stuff. Only draw back is that the upper is a matte finish and the lower is a gloss finish, which is very surprising since they are a matched set... Anyone else have this? I got my set from JSESurplus, sub 2000 serial. It isn't a huge issue, nothing functionally wrong with it, just looks odd. Can you paint with an airbrush or HVLP gun? I have had excellent results with Cerakote Graphite Black on HYPERCLEAN, mildly scuffed surfaces. As such:  The P1 ( P-38 ) import pistols as you see here, have a phosphated slide and barrel with a smooth anodized, aluminum frame. As an experiment, I cleaned the frame on this gun like mad. Several washings, alcohol rinses and acetone soaks before, during and after lightly scuffing with a 3M Scotch Brite pad. It gives a bit of extra adherence but doesn't compromise the anodizing. It has held up GREAT!!! ( LOOKS A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER, TOO!!! ) |
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Posted: 2/28/2014 7:35:06 PM EDT
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What's the best bolt carrier group that is dpms style.... Other than the almost $500 jp lmos
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Posted: 2/28/2014 9:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the best bolt carrier group that is dpms style.... Other than the almost $500 jp lmos There's a lot of answers to that question. The consensus seems to be: either the Young .308 group or the JP Low Mass group......I went with CMMG carrier with a JP bolt that had been fitted to a JP barrel. The JP bolt really snazzed up the fit of bolt to carrier as compared to the original CMMG bolt in it's parent carrier. I keep the CMMG bolt head as a spare. What I can't tell you is how my combo will perform. BUT: Considering that I did the same thing with a White Oak barrel/bolt head combo in a DSA carrier ( swapping the parent bolt head for the matched White Oak bolt head ) and had fantastic results...Magic Eight Ball says, "outlook is good". Time will tell. Maybe sometime this year I'll get my receivers.....  . |
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Posted: 3/1/2014 10:11:34 AM EDT
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There's a lot of answers to that question. The consensus seems to be: either the Young .308 group or the JP Low Mass group......I went with CMMG carrier with a JP bolt that had been fitted to a JP barrel. The JP bolt really snazzed up the fit of bolt to carrier as compared to the original CMMG bolt in it's parent carrier. I keep the CMMG bolt head as a spare. What I can't tell you is how my combo will perform. BUT: Considering that I did the same thing with a White Oak barrel/bolt head combo in a DSA carrier ( swapping the parent bolt head for the matched White Oak bolt head ) and had fantastic results...Magic Eight Ball says, "outlook is good". Time will tell. Maybe sometime this year I'll get my receivers..... .
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What's the best bolt carrier group that is dpms style.... Other than the almost $500 jp lmos There's a lot of answers to that question. The consensus seems to be: either the Young .308 group or the JP Low Mass group......I went with CMMG carrier with a JP bolt that had been fitted to a JP barrel. The JP bolt really snazzed up the fit of bolt to carrier as compared to the original CMMG bolt in it's parent carrier. I keep the CMMG bolt head as a spare. What I can't tell you is how my combo will perform. BUT: Considering that I did the same thing with a White Oak barrel/bolt head combo in a DSA carrier ( swapping the parent bolt head for the matched White Oak bolt head ) and had fantastic results...Magic Eight Ball says, "outlook is good". Time will tell. Maybe sometime this year I'll get my receivers..... .
I had no hope getting my receivers but the I emailed stonefire arms and when they get them in witch is more often than others they send it right out. Picking mine up on Monday |
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Posted: 3/1/2014 4:57:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had no hope getting my receivers but the I emailed stonefire arms and when they get them in witch is more often than others they send it right out. Picking mine up on Monday Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's the best bolt carrier group that is dpms style.... Other than the almost $500 jp lmos There's a lot of answers to that question. The consensus seems to be: either the Young .308 group or the JP Low Mass group......I went with CMMG carrier with a JP bolt that had been fitted to a JP barrel. The JP bolt really snazzed up the fit of bolt to carrier as compared to the original CMMG bolt in it's parent carrier. I keep the CMMG bolt head as a spare. What I can't tell you is how my combo will perform. BUT: Considering that I did the same thing with a White Oak barrel/bolt head combo in a DSA carrier ( swapping the parent bolt head for the matched White Oak bolt head ) and had fantastic results...Magic Eight Ball says, "outlook is good". Time will tell. Maybe sometime this year I'll get my receivers..... .I had no hope getting my receivers but the I emailed stonefire arms and when they get them in witch is more often than others they send it right out. Picking mine up on Monday |
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Posted: 3/1/2014 9:18:32 PM EDT
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The consensus seems to be: either the Young .308 group Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the best bolt carrier group that is dpms style.... Other than the almost $500 jp lmos The consensus seems to be: either the Young .308 group Good luck with that. Been waiting for over 1.5 years for mine to ship. They have been a "few weeks out" for over a year. JP is your best bet for a quality BCG. A standard phosphate carrier and JP bolt is the best way to get it done on the cheap. I still don't trust these new companies turning out NiB BCG's. |
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Posted: 3/2/2014 1:01:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck with that. Been waiting for over 1.5 years for mine to ship. They have been a "few weeks out" for over a year. JP is your best bet for a quality BCG. A standard phosphate carrier and JP bolt is the best way to get it done on the cheap. I still don't trust these new companies turning out NiB BCG's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's the best bolt carrier group that is dpms style.... Other than the almost $500 jp lmos The consensus seems to be: either the Young .308 group Good luck with that. Been waiting for over 1.5 years for mine to ship. They have been a "few weeks out" for over a year. JP is your best bet for a quality BCG. A standard phosphate carrier and JP bolt is the best way to get it done on the cheap. I still don't trust these new companies turning out NiB BCG's. |
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Posted: 3/3/2014 6:40:27 PM EDT
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Hows the Mega Tactical Trigger on the MATEN?
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Posted: 3/3/2014 8:41:34 PM EDT
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so I tosed a really good bolt into a fairly decent carrier. We'll see how it works out. It works fine. I am actually very pleased with my Rainier Arms carbon cutter bolt carrier and JP bolt.
I haven cleaned or lubed in a few hundred rounds. Im going to let her get dirty and see how long it takes to choke. |
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Posted: 3/3/2014 11:27:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2014 12:01:24 AM EDT
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Would a DPMS bolt group be a decent BCG to use in a build?
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Posted: 3/4/2014 5:57:50 AM EDT
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Would a DPMS bolt group be a decent BCG to use in a build? I don't see any problem with it. It's at least a known quantity, unlike some of these other fly-by-night NiB shops. |
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Posted: 3/4/2014 7:23:30 PM EDT
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Updated photo of fully built rifle. Rainier barrel had too tight of a chamber so I switched to a MEGA 308 barrel, also have a Shadow Ops Weaponry NiB bcg.
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Posted: 3/4/2014 7:38:45 PM EDT
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Rainier barrel had too tight of a chamber... Based on what? I'm just curious, as I have a Rainier Ultra Match and have had no problems (so far). |
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Posted: 3/4/2014 10:36:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It works fine. I am actually very pleased with my Rainier Arms carbon cutter bolt carrier and JP bolt. I haven cleaned or lubed in a few hundred rounds. Im going to let her get dirty and see how long it takes to choke. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: so I tosed a really good bolt into a fairly decent carrier. We'll see how it works out. It works fine. I am actually very pleased with my Rainier Arms carbon cutter bolt carrier and JP bolt. I haven cleaned or lubed in a few hundred rounds. Im going to let her get dirty and see how long it takes to choke. I do the same thing. i call it "fire lapping"...though that is an incorrect use of the term. I definitely shoot my guns in. Dirt and oil...dirt and oil....smooths 'em up right quick. |
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Posted: 3/4/2014 10:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Updated photo of fully built rifle. Rainier barrel had too tight of a chamber so I switched to a MEGA 308 barrel, also have a Shadow Ops Weaponry NiB bcg. Holy Cats!!! That is HOT!!!! |
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Posted: 3/4/2014 11:34:31 PM EDT
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Kreiger 6.5CM barrel and a bunch of other junk. It's fun, no question about that |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 10:49:52 AM EDT
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Updated photo of fully built rifle. Rainier barrel had too tight of a chamber so I switched to a MEGA 308 barrel, also have a Shadow Ops Weaponry NiB bcg. http://i.imgur.com/i4H4L5P.jpg Can you list the specs? That's damn near what Im planning on building. What bolt did you use with the Mega? Is it matched to the barrel? |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 6:05:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/Guns/7D2F56F9-AC52-4DCA-A3A7-38FB938253BA.jpg http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/Guns/C0165D94-B63F-41C9-A69B-4B535E701014.jpg Kreiger 6.5CM barrel and a bunch of other junk. It's fun, no question about that Watch that last step, Brother...it's a doozy!!!! |
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Posted: 3/6/2014 2:06:16 AM EDT
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What's the difference between a low mass and full mass carrier? Not sure what kind I need/want?
I'm going to go with JP Enterprises for my bolt/BCG I am looking for a black bolt/BCG Does a bolt & barrel need to be head-spaced for best fit on a .308? It will be going on a 16" Mega barrel. |
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