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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, I would venture to say that a good number of people buying them are doing so just because they have been to Iraq and back. It's their history that makes them cool, and the price makes it just a little more tempting. It's why I'm fixing to fo That's why I picked up a arasaka. Don't want to shoot it. Maybe pick up a repro monopod, you know... spend money on something that has no functional use. Thinking about it, I need a PA63 too.... |
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, I would venture to say that a good number of people buying them are doing so just because they have been to Iraq and back. It's their history that makes them cool, and the price makes it just a little more tempting. As would I if it they had something other than dirt to say BTDT. Some still had inventory tags listing their previous owner. |
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I would venture to say that a good number of people buying them are doing so just because they have been to Iraq and back. It's their history that makes them cool, and the price makes it just a little more tempting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, I would venture to say that a good number of people buying them are doing so just because they have been to Iraq and back. It's their history that makes them cool, and the price makes it just a little more tempting. Yes BUT what provenance do you get Does anyone have a serial number list from DPMS on which ones were sold to said company |
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, In this thread we find what the difference is between gun owners and gun collectors. It's not a budget thing for me. I have numerous AR's and even a colt m16. It's not about the price, I would have paid $1000 for one in a heart beat for one of these. Paid $1600 for a beat up 6933 A collector will pay big money for something that he cant usually have. Why buy new? Why buy a new PSA? Heck, I can get a DD any day. It's not about getting a good "deal" It's about where these rifles have been and the fact that this is probably your only chance to ever own a modern "surplus" weapon. I hate to say it but the good ol days of the surplus market is dead and gone. Everything is automatic and the few that are not like the m9 the military is never going to release (unless your lucky enough to know a general who will part with his GOM) The closest thing you will ever have to these rifles would be to buy a US property marked DOE m16 and none of those have been to vietnam. Now do you want to talk about the price? |
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For me, yes, these are the reasons I would be tempted to get one. I've had a DPMS 16" carbine that I bought new (my first AR). Never a failure. Currently own a PSA 16" carbine set up identically to these. The price of the bring-back carbine is tempting, and the fact that its as close to a war surplus carbine as I'll ever be able to own is appealing in its own right. I'll pass for now (spare gun money is going into a 308 AR build), but I might get one at a later date. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, I would venture to say that a good number of people buying them are doing so just because they have been to Iraq and back. It's their history that makes them cool, and the price makes it just a little more tempting. For me, yes, these are the reasons I would be tempted to get one. I've had a DPMS 16" carbine that I bought new (my first AR). Never a failure. Currently own a PSA 16" carbine set up identically to these. The price of the bring-back carbine is tempting, and the fact that its as close to a war surplus carbine as I'll ever be able to own is appealing in its own right. I'll pass for now (spare gun money is going into a 308 AR build), but I might get one at a later date. IF there'll be any left. I understand - after doing a Google search - that they're selling very well. I am very tempted. But damn, I just bought a PSA upper. |
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My two. both shoot fine, were dialed in and had little internal wear. One Regular M4 and one super heavy 16. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468868_zps0ae71d88.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468883_zps33a59940.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468836_zpsccf7c694.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468808_zps3f6d68a4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468785_zpscee705d0.jpg check out the gnarly piece of Ugandan underwear stuffed in the grip Trigger guard is... special. Over travel stop |
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IF there'll be any left. I understand - after doing a Google search - that they're selling very well. I am very tempted. But damn, I just bought a PSA upper. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, I would venture to say that a good number of people buying them are doing so just because they have been to Iraq and back. It's their history that makes them cool, and the price makes it just a little more tempting. For me, yes, these are the reasons I would be tempted to get one. I've had a DPMS 16" carbine that I bought new (my first AR). Never a failure. Currently own a PSA 16" carbine set up identically to these. The price of the bring-back carbine is tempting, and the fact that its as close to a war surplus carbine as I'll ever be able to own is appealing in its own right. I'll pass for now (spare gun money is going into a 308 AR build), but I might get one at a later date. IF there'll be any left. I understand - after doing a Google search - that they're selling very well. I am very tempted. But damn, I just bought a PSA upper. I called yesterday, they had 60 or so left. They will be gone in a week. Forget the 308 build, you will be able to buy parts for that for the next 50 years. Once these are gone invoices are going to be enough providence for most collectors expect them to sky rocket when everybody in the country is fighting over one or two listed on gunbroker. Most will be stored away and wont see the light of day for 30+ years. I will never sell mine.... Right now this will be one of the crowning jewls of my collection. |
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My two. both shoot fine, were dialed in and had little internal wear. One Regular M4 and one super heavy 16. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468868_zps0ae71d88.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468883_zps33a59940.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468836_zpsccf7c694.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468808_zps3f6d68a4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468785_zpscee705d0.jpg check out the gnarly piece of Ugandan underwear stuffed in the grip Trigger guard is... special. Over travel stop I thought it was a short reset trigger modification? African tac con? |
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Jambo! I saw a lot of Ugandans carrying AK47 or AK74 variants as well. I used to see what I could away with showing, instead of my ID, driving through their check points in a HMMWV. My most impressive accomplishments were a credit card and a can of coke. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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First I heard of these. Why are they called "Iraq bring backs?" Are they really used guns from Iraq? yup. Ugandan gaurds Jambo! I saw a lot of Ugandans carrying AK47 or AK74 variants as well. I used to see what I could away with showing, instead of my ID, driving through their check points in a HMMWV. My most impressive accomplishments were a credit card and a can of coke. Correct, believe it or not the Ugandan guards were also outfitted with many Romanian WASR AKs and AES-10B RPKs purchased on the US market and brought over to Iraq. Seems odd, but that was the path they took. Those are also popping up for sale now. Gotta read this whole thread if you're interested: http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187598 Good proof photos on page 3 |
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It's not a budget thing for me. I have numerous AR's and even a colt m16. It's not about the price, I would have paid $1000 for one in a heart beat for one of these. Paid $1600 for a beat up 6933 A collector will pay big money for something that he cant usually have. Why buy new? Why buy a new PSA? Heck, I can get a DD any day. It's not about getting a good "deal" It's about where these rifles have been and the fact that this is probably your only chance to ever own a modern "surplus" weapon. I hate to say it but the good ol days of the surplus market is dead and gone. Everything is automatic and the few that are not like the m9 the military is never going to release (unless your lucky enough to know a general who will part with his GOM) The closest thing you will ever have to these rifles would be to buy a US property marked DOE m16 and none of those have been to vietnam. Now do you want to talk about the price? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, In this thread we find what the difference is between gun owners and gun collectors. It's not a budget thing for me. I have numerous AR's and even a colt m16. It's not about the price, I would have paid $1000 for one in a heart beat for one of these. Paid $1600 for a beat up 6933 A collector will pay big money for something that he cant usually have. Why buy new? Why buy a new PSA? Heck, I can get a DD any day. It's not about getting a good "deal" It's about where these rifles have been and the fact that this is probably your only chance to ever own a modern "surplus" weapon. I hate to say it but the good ol days of the surplus market is dead and gone. Everything is automatic and the few that are not like the m9 the military is never going to release (unless your lucky enough to know a general who will part with his GOM) The closest thing you will ever have to these rifles would be to buy a US property marked DOE m16 and none of those have been to vietnam. Now do you want to talk about the price? Yep, that dirt will be a +$1000 on these rifles in 10 years. |
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My two. both shoot fine, were dialed in and had little internal wear. One Regular M4 and one super heavy 16. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468868_zps0ae71d88.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468883_zps33a59940.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468836_zpsccf7c694.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468808_zps3f6d68a4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468785_zpscee705d0.jpg check out the gnarly piece of Ugandan underwear stuffed in the grip View Quote You know what that rag is for.....right? |
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Yep, that dirt will be a +$1000 on these rifles in 10 years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, In this thread we find what the difference is between gun owners and gun collectors. It's not a budget thing for me. I have numerous AR's and even a colt m16. It's not about the price, I would have paid $1000 for one in a heart beat for one of these. Paid $1600 for a beat up 6933 A collector will pay big money for something that he cant usually have. Why buy new? Why buy a new PSA? Heck, I can get a DD any day. It's not about getting a good "deal" It's about where these rifles have been and the fact that this is probably your only chance to ever own a modern "surplus" weapon. I hate to say it but the good ol days of the surplus market is dead and gone. Everything is automatic and the few that are not like the m9 the military is never going to release (unless your lucky enough to know a general who will part with his GOM) The closest thing you will ever have to these rifles would be to buy a US property marked DOE m16 and none of those have been to vietnam. Now do you want to talk about the price? Yep, that dirt will be a +$1000 on these rifles in 10 years. I doubt that. |
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The pics I saw, poor condition, rust and no real documentation as to who had them or where it had been I would buy a new PSA instead, In this thread we find what the difference is between gun owners and gun collectors. It's not a budget thing for me. I have numerous AR's and even a colt m16. It's not about the price, I would have paid $1000 for one in a heart beat for one of these. Paid $1600 for a beat up 6933 A collector will pay big money for something that he cant usually have. Why buy new? Why buy a new PSA? Heck, I can get a DD any day. It's not about getting a good "deal" It's about where these rifles have been and the fact that this is probably your only chance to ever own a modern "surplus" weapon. I hate to say it but the good ol days of the surplus market is dead and gone. Everything is automatic and the few that are not like the m9 the military is never going to release (unless your lucky enough to know a general who will part with his GOM) The closest thing you will ever have to these rifles would be to buy a US property marked DOE m16 and none of those have been to vietnam. Now do you want to talk about the price? Yep, that dirt will be a +$1000 on these rifles in 10 years. I doubt that. Tell that to all the old guys who sporterized mausers and 1903's back in the day |
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I want one with an authentic guard uniform complete with pockets stuffed to the brim with Rip-Its, juice boxes and Otis Spunkmeyer muffins. And magazine pouches full of bread and fruit. And a hand-picked white styrofoam To-Go box with half a cake in it.
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Tell that to all the old guys who sporterized mausers and 1903's back in the day I wouldn't want a trophy from this goat fuck. WTF are you talking about? Is this some kind of house troll language that I'm not versed in? Just when I halfway figure out ebonics the basement trolls come up with there own language Simple fact is people with money will pay for guns that are hard to get. Right now there is a hand full left and prices are low, gun shops that had 75 of them sold out in a day...... Let them dry up and collectors will pay a nice premium to have one. Goat fuck or not they will go up in value, there's no way to loose money on this. do you bit coin bro? |
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WTF are you talking about? Is this some kind of house troll language that I'm not versed in? Just when I halfway figure out ebonics the basement trolls come up with there own language Simple fact is people with money will pay for guns that are hard to get. Right now there is a hand full left and prices are low, gun shops that had 75 of them sold out in a day...... Let them dry up and collectors will pay a nice premium to have one. Goat fuck or not they will go up in value, there's no way to loose money on this. do you bit coin bro? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Tell that to all the old guys who sporterized mausers and 1903's back in the day I wouldn't want a trophy from this goat fuck. WTF are you talking about? Is this some kind of house troll language that I'm not versed in? Just when I halfway figure out ebonics the basement trolls come up with there own language Simple fact is people with money will pay for guns that are hard to get. Right now there is a hand full left and prices are low, gun shops that had 75 of them sold out in a day...... Let them dry up and collectors will pay a nice premium to have one. Goat fuck or not they will go up in value, there's no way to loose money on this. do you bit coin bro? Do you get regular blood pressure checks bro? |
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I want one just gotta sell something this weekend to cover one if I can
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First I heard of these. Why are they called "Iraq bring backs?" Are they really used guns from Iraq? I would assume with the current administration these were a pain to bring back into the country since I was under the impression that once these contractors took the rifles, pistols or what ever out of the country they stayed out of the country. |
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First I heard of these. Why are they called "Iraq bring backs?" Are they really used guns from Iraq? yup. Ugandan gaurds Our Ugandans carried AMD-65's. American security contractors carry these. ( triple canopy now) |
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People really want a dirty Dpms that some third world security guards carried while standing around guarding chow halls?
Next we will be hearing about how they are "pre remington" Dpms "from the good old days"
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I want an ebola gun.
The link indicates they don't come with carry handles but a previous poster's have them with matching wear so I assume that some did??? |
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For the extra $100 I'd just assume go new.
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Hahaha, buy a beat to shit DPMS just because it's been to Iraq?
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Well at least they have a pedigree of sorts so there is that plus look at all the time that will be saved by not having to throw it down the driveway.
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My two. both shoot fine, were dialed in and had little internal wear. One Regular M4 and one super heavy 16. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468868_zps0ae71d88.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468883_zps33a59940.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468836_zpsccf7c694.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468808_zps3f6d68a4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468785_zpscee705d0.jpg check out the gnarly piece of Ugandan underwear stuffed in the grip Trigger guard is... special. Over travel stop I thought it was a short reset trigger modification? African tac con? They are straight now but yeah... |
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My two. both shoot fine, were dialed in and had little internal wear. One Regular M4 and one super heavy 16. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468868_zps0ae71d88.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468883_zps33a59940.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468836_zpsccf7c694.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468808_zps3f6d68a4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468785_zpscee705d0.jpg check out the gnarly piece of Ugandan underwear stuffed in the grip You know what that rag is for.....right? <----------shudders |
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My two. both shoot fine, were dialed in and had little internal wear. One Regular M4 and one super heavy 16. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468868_zps0ae71d88.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468883_zps33a59940.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468836_zpsccf7c694.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468808_zps3f6d68a4.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Rifles/Centerfire/DPMS%2016hvy/1405468785_zpscee705d0.jpg check out the gnarly piece of Ugandan underwear stuffed in the grip View Quote Oh goodness. |
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Not long after these are all sold out, the story will morph from "Carried by Ugandan guards in Iraq", to "Carried by elite former navy seals working as PMC".
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People really want a dirty Dpms that some third world security guards carried while standing around guarding chow halls? Next we will be hearing about how they are "pre remington" Dpms "from the good old days" While I agree, I wouldn't mind owning the M4 I had in Iraq. Hell, its probably still in use at 2-14 Infantry! The weapon you yourself carried is a little different than some beat to shit DPMS. |
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I just got off the phone with Centerfire regarding these guns and the woman said they had about 50 or so in stock. I asked if the rifles came from Iraq and she said she had no way of knowing for sure but it is a possibility. I am tempted to get one.
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These DPMS carbines, how is it they can be imported back in the US but not the M1 Garands in S. Korea can't?
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I don't see what the big deal is with these things. WOW A SEMI-AUTO AMERICAN AR EXPORTED AND RE-IMPORTED USED BY THIRD COUNTRY NATIONALS TO GUARD CHOW HALLS AND GATES WITH NO WAY TO PROVE IT'S HISTORY OTHER THAN IT'S REALLY WORN OUT! http://www.neowin.net/forum/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-350302-0-92735100-1393705841.jpg View Quote yep, pretty lame |
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