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Posted: 2/20/2014 9:19:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Changes to Mercedes' rear end. http://images.scribblelive.com/2014/2/20/d31beaf7-0230-4233-b371-5635eae81fcf_800.jpg Interesting. This goes back to the two part video again. Wonder how much down force that little "shroud" adds? Merc looks like the team to beat this year. Red Bull looks to be in deep shit. |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 9:36:24 AM EDT
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Looks like RBR and Renault are officially in trouble. This makes my day 
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Posted: 2/20/2014 12:42:03 PM EDT
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Looks like RBR and Renault are officially in trouble. This makes my day Add to that Red Bull may be losing Infiniti sponsorship. |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 12:55:32 PM EDT
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Looks like RBR and Renault are officially in trouble. This makes my day Add to that Red Bull may be losing Infiniti sponsorship. 
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Posted: 2/20/2014 3:42:55 PM EDT
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Looks like RBR and Renault are officially in trouble. I haven't had a chance to watch any testing, what's up with the white flag err Renault powerd cars??? |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 3:53:11 PM EDT
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Looks like RBR and Renault are officially in trouble. This makes my day Add to that Red Bull may be losing Infiniti sponsorship. Que grumpy cat 
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Posted: 2/20/2014 3:56:03 PM EDT
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Redbull did 59 laps today, torro rosso got it figured out with 58 laps.
Lotus retired early--but shortly after signed long term with renault. I'm sure they will be ok tomorrow 
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Posted: 2/20/2014 4:55:11 PM EDT
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Bahrain Day 1
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Posted: 2/20/2014 6:11:09 PM EDT
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Looks like the meeting among horner marko and jalinier (head of renault sport F1) paid off for the Renault teams.
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Posted: 2/20/2014 7:21:38 PM EDT
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Looks like RBR and Renault are officially in trouble. I haven't had a chance to watch any testing, what's up with the white flag err Renault powerd cars??? The RBR can't seem to complete 10 consecutive laps at speed without some major overheating. Lotus is similar although their finances are such that an unsorted car isn't such a surprise. Renault is reduced to bragging up the 60+ laps Caterham has run, which should tell you how bad things are. |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 7:23:44 PM EDT
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Renault the biggest---every Renault team---how could they fuck up this badly. What did i miss ? |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 7:36:09 PM EDT
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James Allen's Report on Taoday's Results
Bahrain Test 1 – Day Two Times
1. Kevin Magnussen McLaren 1:34.910s 46 laps 2. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:36.445s +1.535s 59 laps 3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:36.516s +1.606s 97 laps 4. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:36.965s +2.055s 85 laps 5. Valtteri Bottas Williams 1:37.328s +2.418s 116 laps 6. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham 1:39.855s +4.945s 66 laps 7. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:40.340s +5.430s 59 laps 8. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1:40.609s +5.699s 58 laps 9. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 1:40.717s +5.807s 55 laps 10. Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:41.670s +6.760s 18 laps 11. Max Chilton Marussia 1:42.511s +7.601s 17 laps Not good that RBR can only complete laps when they run 4+ seconds off the pace. 
Good comment: Looks like Scarbs is correct along with the other reports and even by what Renault says. Basically:
- MGU-K is delivering power too quickly causing failure in the crankcase and ICE - Kamui say they are 20-30km slower than the Mercs - All the Renault powered teams are 2-4 seconds off - Taffin says all the Renault powered teams can run as they like but not at the level they want - TheJudge13 initial report where he says it will take 20 wks to fix the problem I’d be expecting the Renault teams fighting for scraps until the Euopean season hits. For all the optimism and press propaganda Renault put out, they screwed up. Hopefully they find a fix sooner rather than later for everyone’s sake... There is apparently a shaft in the MGU K that hadn’t managed more than 100 kms on dyno before Jerez Not so good comment: It seems both Renault and Mercedes are going to be protesting the Ferrari engine as they don’t have a protective cover over their turbo… |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 7:42:31 PM EDT
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Protesters are gonna protest... Fuckers
That Renault bad news made my day... Let it last
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Posted: 2/20/2014 8:26:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: It seems both Renault and Mercedes are going to be protesting the Ferrari engine as they don’t have a protective cover over their turbo… That has to do with 5.18.5 Measures must be taken to ensure that in the event of failure of the turbine wheel any resulting significant debris is contained within the car and perhaps the POV of whether weight of the cover is to be considered part of the required minimum weight of the power unit. Renault and Mercedes have gone with one approach, that the turbocharger needs an additional cover, and Ferrari has a different interpretation by designing housing so that if the turbine wheel fails the turbo housing itself contains the debris. If Ferrari is required to add a 3kg lump up high on their engine it will really screw with weight distribution, COG, and packaging. That section was a later addition to the Technical Regulations; F1.Com doesn't even have 5.18.5 in their technical regulations section. |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 10:08:53 PM EDT
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Looks like RBR and Renault are officially in trouble. This makes my day Add to that Red Bull may be losing Infiniti sponsorship. http://thepitwalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/ebil-webber.jpg%3Fw%3D600%26h%3D400 Lol, cry me a river. Former F1 driver Gerhard Berger, a close confidante of team owner Dietrich Mateschitz, commented: "If anyone can overcome the loss of a sponsor, it is Red Bull."
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Posted: 2/21/2014 6:29:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2014 7:37:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2014 8:30:54 AM EDT
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RBR still struggling.
Daniel Ricciardo completed just over 20 laps before the team discovered a mechanical problem while making set-up changes during the lunch break and after five more laps in the afternoon, the team again called a halt to track running with Race Engineering co-ordinator Andy Damerum admitting that with the car needing to be dismantled it was better to focus on tomorrow’s running.
Bahrain Test 1 – Day Three Times
1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:34.263s 67 laps 2. Jenson Button McLaren 1:34.976s +0.713s 103 laps 3. Felipe Massa Williams 1:37.066s +2.803s 60 laps 4. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 1:37.180s +2.917s 96 laps 5. Sergio Perez Force India 1:37.367s +3.104s 57 laps 6. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:37.476s +3.213s 44 laps 7. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1:38.974s +4.711s 57 laps 8. Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1:39.642s +5.379s 26 laps 9. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1:40.781s +6.518s 28 laps 10. Marcus Ericsson Caterham 1:42.130s +7.867s 98 laps 11. Max Chilton Marussia 1:46.672s +12.409s 4 laps 12. Valtteri Bottas Williams no time 55 laps |
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Posted: 2/22/2014 12:07:14 PM EDT
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Raikkonen into the wall.
Chilton jumps out of his car. 
Chilton Photoshops. 
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Posted: 2/22/2014 12:14:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Raikkonen into the wall. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhFYRVOIEAELzgV.png Chilton jumps out of his car. http://i.imgur.com/68ZAGkU.png Chilton Photoshops. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhBiYcQIYAEom_a.jpg |
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Posted: 2/22/2014 1:53:56 PM EDT
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Still another bad day for Renault.
Daniel Ricciardo only managed to complete his installation lap before a software issue saw the Australian restricted to the garage for most of the morning. He eventually emerged at the wheel of the RB10 shortly before lunchtime but with just 15 laps on the board was brought back to pit lane as yet another ‘mechanical issue’ caused damage to the rear of the car. The damage was such that Ricciardo failed to take to the track again, a miserable end to a frustrating week for the Australian who, following team-mate Sebastian Vettel’s 59-lap outing on day two, might have felt that the worst was behind the team.
Race Engineering Co-ordinator Andy Damerum later admitted the team has much to do ahead of next week’s final test in Bahrain. “It’s been a difficult week: we’ve made some very good progress, particular on day two, but we’ve also had a number of problems that have again held us back. The engineering team will head back to Milton Keynes now to plan the next moves and we can only look forward and try to get everything in place for T-03 here next week.”Jean-Eric Vergne of sister team Toro Rosso managed just four more laps than Ricciardo, his day being disrupted by what he called “a major problem on the engine side”. At Caterham, Marcus Ericsson’s morning in the CT05 was cut to just four laps by an electrical problem. The team managed to fix the car in time to give Kamui Kobayashi 17 laps in the afternoon, though he finished almost 10 seconds off the pace set by Rosberg. Bahrain Test 1 – Day Four Times
1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:33.283s 89 laps 2. Jenson Button McLaren 1:34.957s +1.674s 66 laps 3. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:36.718s +3.435s 82 laps 4. Felipe Nasr Williams 1:37.569s +4.286s 87 laps 5. Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1:38.707s +5.424s 59 laps 6. Sergio Perez Force India 1:39.258s +5.975s 19 laps 7. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing 1:39.837s +6.554s 15 laps 8. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1:40.472s +7.189s 19 laps 9. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham 1:43.027s +9.744s 17 laps 10. Marcus Ericsson Caterham 1:45.094s +11.811s 4 laps 11. Jules Bianchi Marussia no time 5 laps 12. Adrian Sutil Sauber no time 5 laps |
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Posted: 2/22/2014 2:44:58 PM EDT
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Still another bad day for Renault. Daniel Ricciardo only managed to complete his installation lap before a software issue saw the Australian restricted to the garage for most of the morning. He eventually emerged at the wheel of the RB10 shortly before lunchtime but with just 15 laps on the board was brought back to pit lane as yet another ‘mechanical issue’ caused damage to the rear of the car. The damage was such that Ricciardo failed to take to the track again, a miserable end to a frustrating week for the Australian who, following team-mate Sebastian Vettel’s 59-lap outing on day two, might have felt that the worst was behind the team.
Race Engineering Co-ordinator Andy Damerum later admitted the team has much to do ahead of next week’s final test in Bahrain. “It’s been a difficult week: we’ve made some very good progress, particular on day two, but we’ve also had a number of problems that have again held us back. The engineering team will head back to Milton Keynes now to plan the next moves and we can only look forward and try to get everything in place for T-03 here next week.”Jean-Eric Vergne of sister team Toro Rosso managed just four more laps than Ricciardo, his day being disrupted by what he called “a major problem on the engine side”. At Caterham, Marcus Ericsson’s morning in the CT05 was cut to just four laps by an electrical problem. The team managed to fix the car in time to give Kamui Kobayashi 17 laps in the afternoon, though he finished almost 10 seconds off the pace set by Rosberg. Bahrain Test 1 – Day Four Times
1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:33.283s 89 laps 2. Jenson Button McLaren 1:34.957s +1.674s 66 laps 3. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:36.718s +3.435s 82 laps 4. Felipe Nasr Williams 1:37.569s +4.286s 87 laps 5. Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1:38.707s +5.424s 59 laps 6. Sergio Perez Force India 1:39.258s +5.975s 19 laps 7. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing 1:39.837s +6.554s 15 laps 8. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1:40.472s +7.189s 19 laps 9. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham 1:43.027s +9.744s 17 laps 10. Marcus Ericsson Caterham 1:45.094s +11.811s 4 laps 11. Jules Bianchi Marussia no time 5 laps 12. Adrian Sutil Sauber no time 5 laps Top 10 lap times from the entire test gives an interesting look. 
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Posted: 2/22/2014 6:48:00 PM EDT
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I wish Lap Time summaries would note what type of tire they used.
Pirelli supposedly brought three types, including an option Super Soft. |
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Posted: 2/22/2014 7:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCamera stays on the corner and misses the incident @4:28 |
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Posted: 2/22/2014 7:16:41 PM EDT
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The safety car that picked up Kimi in the video looks like it was a flat black Mitsubishi EVO.
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Posted: 2/22/2014 7:28:26 PM EDT
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God the cars are so quiet. They kinda sound like weedeaters in the pit lane too with that turbo whistle
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Posted: 2/22/2014 9:55:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2014 11:20:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Top 10 lap times from the entire test gives an interesting look. https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1798722_581178345308465_840523323_n.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still another bad day for Renault. Daniel Ricciardo only managed to complete his installation lap before a software issue saw the Australian restricted to the garage for most of the morning. He eventually emerged at the wheel of the RB10 shortly before lunchtime but with just 15 laps on the board was brought back to pit lane as yet another ‘mechanical issue’ caused damage to the rear of the car. The damage was such that Ricciardo failed to take to the track again, a miserable end to a frustrating week for the Australian who, following team-mate Sebastian Vettel’s 59-lap outing on day two, might have felt that the worst was behind the team. Race Engineering Co-ordinator Andy Damerum later admitted the team has much to do ahead of next week’s final test in Bahrain. "It’s been a difficult week: we’ve made some very good progress, particular on day two, but we’ve also had a number of problems that have again held us back. The engineering team will head back to Milton Keynes now to plan the next moves and we can only look forward and try to get everything in place for T-03 here next week.”Jean-Eric Vergne of sister team Toro Rosso managed just four more laps than Ricciardo, his day being disrupted by what he called "a major problem on the engine side”. At Caterham, Marcus Ericsson’s morning in the CT05 was cut to just four laps by an electrical problem. The team managed to fix the car in time to give Kamui Kobayashi 17 laps in the afternoon, though he finished almost 10 seconds off the pace set by Rosberg. Bahrain Test 1 – Day Four Times 1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:33.283s 89 laps 2. Jenson Button McLaren 1:34.957s +1.674s 66 laps 3. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:36.718s +3.435s 82 laps 4. Felipe Nasr Williams 1:37.569s +4.286s 87 laps 5. Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1:38.707s +5.424s 59 laps 6. Sergio Perez Force India 1:39.258s +5.975s 19 laps 7. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing 1:39.837s +6.554s 15 laps 8. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1:40.472s +7.189s 19 laps 9. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham 1:43.027s +9.744s 17 laps 10. Marcus Ericsson Caterham 1:45.094s +11.811s 4 laps 11. Jules Bianchi Marussia no time 5 laps 12. Adrian Sutil Sauber no time 5 laps Top 10 lap times from the entire test gives an interesting look. https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1798722_581178345308465_840523323_n.jpg Damn, it looks like a Mercedes advertisement. |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 1:44:13 PM EDT
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Love it or hate it, I'll happily be watching the Daytona 500 all day with a Budweiser.
All due respect to the Daytona 24, but the 500 is the big kickoff to the motorsports season and means less than a month until the first Formula 1 race! |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 1:49:54 PM EDT
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I like racing. I prefer the open wheel series, but I watch NASCAR because there's a lot of it.
 And I watched the 24Hrs of Daytona. But it is the Dakar Rally that signals the start of the racing season. |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 1:53:44 PM EDT
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I like racing. I prefer the open wheel series, but I watch NASCAR because there's a lot of it.
And I watched the 24Hrs of Daytona. But it is the Dakar Rally that signals the start of the racing season. Right on. I have my favorites (endurance and F1) but I'm a lover of all motorsports. |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 3:10:52 PM EDT
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I like racing. I prefer the open wheel series, but I watch NASCAR because there's a lot of it.
And I watched the 24Hrs of Daytona. But it is the Dakar Rally that signals the start of the racing season. Right on. I have my favorites (endurance and F1) but I'm a lover of all motorsports. I'm watching the 500 but it doesn't even compare to the Rolex 24 in my opinion. But I favor sports car racing. |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 3:14:01 PM EDT
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Raikkonen into the wall. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhFYRVOIEAELzgV.png Chilton jumps out of his car. http://i.imgur.com/68ZAGkU.png Chilton Photoshops. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhBiYcQIYAEom_a.jpg More Chilton: 
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Posted: 2/23/2014 3:28:05 PM EDT
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due to a daytona rain delay, im hangin out here for a bit
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Posted: 2/23/2014 3:39:33 PM EDT
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Renault putting on a brave face.
Renault Sport F1's Deputy Managing Director Rob White has said the power unit manufacturer has made progress this week but that the company is “not back on schedule”. Speaking as the second pre-season test in Bahrain came to a close – a four-day spell in which Renault-powered teams continued to suffer – White admitted there had been more setbacks but insisted that progress has been made. “We have made some good headway, in terms of PU performance and operation in the car. We are now in a situation we could have accepted mid-Jerez. We have solved some problems and revealed some others,” he said.
“We are not back on schedule but we are moving in the right direction – the running we have done is very valuable. The challenge is to improve the rate of progress, because the gap to where we wanted to be at this stage remains substantial. “We are some weeks behind where we wanted to be, and we acknowledge it will take time to unlock the full performance of the PU,” he added. “We are working hard to get there and we are determined to succeed. We remain confident in the PU and its sub systems, we are just not at the level of operation and performance we want to be. The immaturity of the PU combined with the time lost to incidents, means the chassis work to prepare for the season is also behind schedule. From this point on we must pursue and accelerate an upward curve.” This was interesting: SPEED TRAP:
Alonso; 336,4 km/h, Kevin Magnussen: 330,2 km/h Felipe Massa: 327,2 km/h. — Renault PU: Jean-Eric Vergne: 308,5 km/h Sebastian Vettel: 301,6 km/h Kamui Kobayashi: 301,5 km/h Good comment: Well I’m an electrical engineer and you’re right anything handling this much electrical power 120kW, is bound to get very hot. Let’s say they have a 95% efficiency in the transformers, batteries, motors, etc, that still leaves 6kW that have to be disposed of, to give you an idea this equates to nearly 1500 calories per second every time the ERS is on. If they use it for 33 seconds a lap and you add the heat from the petrol engine on top of that it’s quite an achievement to make them run for a race distance without any problems. The more I get into it the more I appreciate this new Power Unit spec just for the engineering behind it. It seems fairly certain that at some point some of it will end up in road cars (the exhaust turbine electrical generator seems likely given how many cars are turbocharged now). |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 10:36:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2014 11:32:45 AM EDT
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I've only read this page 9 so I'm totally in the dark but I can say that Chilton has a pretty good leap. Any NFL defense would take him to cover wide receivers
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Posted: 2/25/2014 12:02:48 PM EDT
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Well with Renault apparently not being able to support another championship run, while I will stil be rooting for RedBull, I will also be rooting for Hulkenberg in the Force India, they seem to have a competitive car, and the right driver this year.
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Posted: 2/25/2014 12:33:56 PM EDT
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Well with Renault apparently not being able to support another championship run and while I will still be vehemently rooting against RedBull, I will also be rooting for Alonso or anyone else whose name doesn't rhyme with "kettle". I modified your post to more accurately describe my feelings.
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Posted: 2/25/2014 12:37:28 PM EDT
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Well with Renault apparently not being able to support another championship run and while I will still be vehemently rooting against RedBull, I will also be rooting for Alonso or anyone else whose name doesn't rhyme with "kettle". I modified your post to more accurately describe my feelings. Reanualt took care of that for you. |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 7:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDon't really see that as a shocker. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 7:29:24 AM EDT
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I wish Lap Time summaries would note what type of tire they used. Pirelli supposedly brought three types, including an option Super Soft. Ask and ye shall receive. 
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Posted: 2/26/2014 8:19:14 AM EDT
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Massa could very well have a faster car than Ferrari, giving him a chance to mix it up with Alonso.
The thing I'm most interested in at this point is seeing who is the fastest driver of the customer Mercedes teams. Either Massa or Hulkenberg could be the dark horse there. Button is the obvious choice but if he's not qualifying on the Second Row he could have problems. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 9:48:38 AM EDT
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I'm hoping for a really screwy season this year. I'd love to see the whole season play out like the first 7 or 8 races of 2012. Wins from Massa, Hulk, Grosjean and Kobayashi would be great.
In the end, I want Kimi to win the WDC on the last lap of the last race of the season.
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Posted: 2/26/2014 10:50:01 AM EDT
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Well with Renault apparently not being able to support another championship run and while I will still be vehemently rooting against RedBull, I will also be rooting for Alonso or anyone else whose name doesn't rhyme with "kettle". I modified your post to more accurately describe my feelings. Where do I sign ?
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Posted: 2/27/2014 10:46:43 AM EDT
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http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/02/24/ferrari-will-run-closer-race-pace-final-test/
Ferrari will get closer to the true potential of their F14 T in the final four-day test in Bahrain this week, according to technical director James Allison. Rivals Mercedes conducted a performance run on the final day of the previous test which left Nico Rosberg over three seconds quicker than either of the Italian team’s drivers. But Allison said they will push their car harder over the final four days of running before the first race of the year. Lap times during testing haven't meant much because we have no idea how far teams were pushing the performance envelopes of their cars in their testing plan. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 4:14:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2014 4:18:24 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt the RB will be shit.... Wait and see
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Posted: 2/27/2014 4:43:11 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt the RB will be shit.... Wait and see No, it'll be fast for the 10 laps that it runs before it blows apart, lights on fire, or just plain quits 
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