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Posted: 10/5/2014 6:45:11 PM EDT
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Bianchi out of surgery and breathing on his own. http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9505399/Bianchi-Out-Of-Surgery-After-Accident beat me to it. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 6:45:27 PM EDT
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Doubt any kinda track change would prevent this. Only thing I might see changing is more safety cars for stranded vehicles Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stupid incident, continuing to run under such conditions (both the hydroplaning and the safety tractor being out from behind the barriers). I hope an otherwise epic track isn't neutered as a result (see: Imola).  Doubt any kinda track change would prevent this. Only thing I might see changing is more safety cars for stranded vehicles Only things I see that would've helped in this situation would've been to deploy the safety car before they brought out the inloader to recover sutil's car or to use the cranes like they have at Monaco from behind the barriers where possible. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 6:47:14 PM EDT
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Where are you guys getting he's on life support? All I see is that he is out of surgery. Critical, and in intensive care, but not life support. Someone posted it above, from Kimi's FB page, just speculation, no credit to that info. If he is in a medically induced coma, but breathing on his own, as stated by the FIA, the life support rumor makes no sense. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:22:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are you guys getting he's on life support? All I see is that he is out of surgery. Critical, and in intensive care, but not life support. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:25:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only things I see that would've helped in this situation would've been to deploy the safety car before they brought out the inloader to recover sutil's car or to use the cranes like they have at Monaco from behind the barriers where possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stupid incident, continuing to run under such conditions (both the hydroplaning and the safety tractor being out from behind the barriers). I hope an otherwise epic track isn't neutered as a result (see: Imola). Doubt any kinda track change would prevent this. Only thing I might see changing is more safety cars for stranded vehicles Only things I see that would've helped in this situation would've been to deploy the safety car before they brought out the inloader to recover sutil's car or to use the cranes like they have at Monaco from behind the barriers where possible. Yeah.. there should always be a safety car out if something major happens on Dunlop.. Hell, damn near the same accident that Brundle had, he was just luckier. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 8:02:08 PM EDT
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Prayers sent to JB and his family
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Posted: 10/5/2014 8:13:45 PM EDT
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Just finished watching the race. Prayers for Bianchi.
Can't believe they didn't do something different than what they did to run this race. Anytime a recovery vehicle is on the track they need to do more than just wave yellows the turn before. Still not much info out there on what condition Jules is in. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 8:15:30 PM EDT
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The JCB that Bianchi hit.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 8:24:15 PM EDT
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rewrote this to avoid a shitstorm; Everyone should review the rules concerning appropriate driver action for double yellows
Having said that prayers for JB |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 8:51:54 PM EDT
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My prayers to JB and his family
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Posted: 10/5/2014 8:52:33 PM EDT
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rewrote this to avoid a shitstorm; Everyone should review the rules concerning appropriate driver action for double yellows Having said that prayers for JB I agree. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:35:41 PM EDT
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I just finished watching the race. I pray that not only does Jules make it, but he's able to return to F1 in a competitive form.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:11:19 AM EDT
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Just finished watching it on the dvr.
My best to bianchi. Hamilton did another great race. He's at the top of his game. I know the Mercedes is far away the best car, but Hamilton has run some awesome races to get himself to the top over his teammate. If he wins this championship, he will have deserved it. Vettel ran a good race too. I'm pleasantly surprised they got most of the race in. Last night, it seemed improbable. Despote the Bianchi situation, it was a very good race, everything else considered.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 9:30:44 AM EDT
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Sky Sports F1?Verified account
?@SkySportsF1 After update from FIA media chief at Mie hospital, @SkySportsNewsHQ report Jules Bianchi’s condition remains critical but stable |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 9:36:27 AM EDT
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Video of crash, forwarded to a few seconds before.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 9:51:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2014 9:53:20 AM EDT
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That crash was God-awful.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 10:35:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2014 11:05:38 AM EDT
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I'd like to point out something that has been popping over and over from other areas of the internet. In the video a green flag can be seen waving. That flag was waving for the sector AFTER the sector where Sutil's car was off. The green flag WAS NOT being waved for the sector before and at the crash site. That sector was under a yellow flag caution.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 11:18:44 AM EDT
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I saw the crash video on another site and came to cross post but was already posted here as per usual. The crash looks terrible and only increases my concern for Bianchi. It would be nothing short of miraculous if he recovered from this. When you do a frame-by-frame it's almost as though his head contacted the heavy machine first (at the rear right corner). Also the footage makes it clear just how much speed his car still had at the moment of impact. Doesn't look good...
ETA: my son and I are praying for his complete recovery. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 11:30:08 AM EDT
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While I am hoping for the best for Bianchi, I am expecting the worst. That was a horrendous impact.
Thinking good thoughts for him and his family. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 11:52:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWow that's actually worse than I imagined it was.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 12:14:34 PM EDT
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That impact is sickening. Suzuka is somewhat of a dark place for me in the fact that Daijiro Kato suffered life ending injury there.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 12:40:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAwww man... it's far worse than I imagine!
No, I didn't watch the race live and nobody was interested to show the reprise where I live. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 12:45:45 PM EDT
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Quote Historythey removed it fuck. just seen the gif. how fast you have to be to lift such a crane from impact. wow.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 12:50:32 PM EDT
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F1 is chasing the video all over the internet, but it's getting out there, and it's horrific.
It's still up here for now... Bianch What an impact. For a car that light to lift that big crane tractor off the ground... unbelievable. I can't believe there's anything left of poor Bianchi. I hope he comes back... he's damn lucky to be alive, I honestly don't see how. Prayers for Jules. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:15:12 PM EDT
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Awww man... it's far worse than I imagine!
No, I didn't watch the race live and nobody was interested to show the reprise where I live. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Awww man... it's far worse than I imagine!
No, I didn't watch the race live and nobody was interested to show the reprise where I live. The way the tractor moved when it was hit shows how fast he was going too. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:20:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:50:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2014 2:20:36 PM EDT
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Poor Kid--what a shit show.
I hope he pulls through, that kid is a bundle of racing talent. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 2:32:07 PM EDT
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The way the tractor moved when it was hit shows how fast he was going too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awww man... it's far worse than I imagine!
No, I didn't watch the race live and nobody was interested to show the reprise where I live. The way the tractor moved when it was hit shows how fast he was going too. Yes.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 3:00:11 PM EDT
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Keep in mind, the tractor did have Sutil's car lifted on the other end...still brutal though....
Corner workers very fortunate to have escaped being hit. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 4:54:24 PM EDT
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Well at least some good news according to the BBC. Agree with the rest on the crash being so much more than I could have even imagined.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 5:16:41 PM EDT
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That was brutal
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Posted: 10/6/2014 5:33:10 PM EDT
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Holy Shit that was huge......praying for a the best recovery he can get.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 5:44:09 PM EDT
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Doubt any kinda track change would prevent this. Only thing I might see changing is more safety cars for stranded vehicles Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stupid incident, continuing to run under such conditions (both the hydroplaning and the safety tractor being out from behind the barriers). I hope an otherwise epic track isn't neutered as a result (see: Imola). Doubt any kinda track change would prevent this. Only thing I might see changing is more safety cars for stranded vehicles I could easily see some Mickey Mouse chicane added somewhere towards the end of the Esses. Think back on that crappy complex of kart track turns they had at the end of the infield at Indy to slow the cars down before they entered the banking. 
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Posted: 10/6/2014 5:46:54 PM EDT
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After looking at the video again it was amazing no corner workers were killed....maybe they would have been if not for the tractor. Just amazing.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 6:24:10 PM EDT
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After looking at the video again it was amazing no corner workers were killed....maybe they would have been if not for the tractor. Just amazing. There may a some small blessing in disguise that the crane was there. If Bianchi had not hit it, at the speed he was going and lined up at that barrier opening like he was, there may have been a worse accident when his car hit the vehicles parked on the other side of that barrier. I imagine that an F-1 car impacting one or more of those minivans at speed would have been instantly fatal for Bianchi and that a serious fire would likely have occurred as well. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 6:46:30 PM EDT
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There may a some small blessing in disguise that the crane was there. If Bianchi had not hit it, at the speed he was going and lined up at that barrier opening like he was, there may have been a worse accident when his car hit the vehicles parked on the other side of that barrier. I imagine that an F-1 car impacting one or more of those minivans at speed would have been instantly fatal for Bianchi and that a serious fire would likely have occurred as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After looking at the video again it was amazing no corner workers were killed....maybe they would have been if not for the tractor. Just amazing. There may a some small blessing in disguise that the crane was there. If Bianchi had not hit it, at the speed he was going and lined up at that barrier opening like he was, there may have been a worse accident when his car hit the vehicles parked on the other side of that barrier. I imagine that an F-1 car impacting one or more of those minivans at speed would have been instantly fatal for Bianchi and that a serious fire would likely have occurred as well. If he would have missed the crane, he would have speared the barrier head on. The walls are over lapped there as there is a access road there, he would not have went strait in and hit anything, unless he bounced just right off the walls. They have those areas designed to prevent the cars from leaving the barriers. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 6:47:48 PM EDT
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The way the tractor moved when it was hit shows how fast he was going too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awww man... it's far worse than I imagine!
No, I didn't watch the race live and nobody was interested to show the reprise where I live. The way the tractor moved when it was hit shows how fast he was going too. Yeah, think of how much that tractor weighs, and he picked it up, and moved it over. He hit with one hell of a impact 
A bit later he would have speared the axle of that loader, and hit a marshal too
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Posted: 10/6/2014 8:20:40 PM EDT
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I saw on another forum (aka unconfirmed) according to the telemetry he was going ~ 87mph on impact. Seen the video... looks about right.
I really hope he pulls through. I always liked Jules. It was cool to see him on cloud nine at Monaco. IMO, if Kimi does indeed retire at the end of 2015, Ferrari would have been Vettel and Jules in 2016. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll ever drive competitively again. I hope he proves me wrong. A pic I took of him in Austin, 2013. 
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Posted: 10/6/2014 8:33:29 PM EDT
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Yeah, think of how much that tractor weighs, and he picked it up, and moved it over. He hit with one hell of a impact
A bit later he would have speared the axle of that loader, and hit a marshal too Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awww man... it's far worse than I imagine!
No, I didn't watch the race live and nobody was interested to show the reprise where I live. The way the tractor moved when it was hit shows how fast he was going too. Yeah, think of how much that tractor weighs, and he picked it up, and moved it over. He hit with one hell of a impact
A bit later he would have speared the axle of that loader, and hit a marshal too As someone else pointed out, they did have Sutil's car suspended and the boom extended. might not take as much to left it and rotate it about the front wheels as you would think. That said, that was a brutal brutal hit. Makes the marks under the crane in the trap photo make a lot more sense |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 8:37:51 PM EDT
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As someone else pointed out, they did have Sutil's car suspended and the boom extended. might not take as much to left it and rotate it about the front wheels as you would think. That said, that was a brutal brutal hit. Makes the marks under the crane in the trap photo make a lot more sense Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awww man... it's far worse than I imagine!
No, I didn't watch the race live and nobody was interested to show the reprise where I live. The way the tractor moved when it was hit shows how fast he was going too. Yeah, think of how much that tractor weighs, and he picked it up, and moved it over. He hit with one hell of a impact
A bit later he would have speared the axle of that loader, and hit a marshal too As someone else pointed out, they did have Sutil's car suspended and the boom extended. might not take as much to left it and rotate it about the front wheels as you would think. That said, that was a brutal brutal hit. Makes the marks under the crane in the trap photo make a lot more sense The telemetry is showing 87mph on impact. Not as much as it could have been, but any speed a hit like that is gonna be bad. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 11:16:41 PM EDT
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I saw on another forum (aka unconfirmed) according to the telemetry he was going ~ 87mph on impact. Seen the video... looks about right.
I really hope he pulls through. I always liked Jules. It was cool to see him on cloud nine at Monaco. IMO, if Kimi does indeed retire at the end of 2015, Ferrari would have been Vettel and Jules in 2016. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll ever drive competitively again. I hope he proves me wrong. A pic I took of him in Austin, 2013. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/Talnz167/PB157040_zpsd9ae7475.jpg That is a cool pic, and I suspect you are right, if not Ferrari then with another top team. There are pics of of Jules in the car with his helmet off. Not bleeding or violent looking, just him with his eyes closed and an O2 mask on. 
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Posted: 10/6/2014 11:32:43 PM EDT
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Saw the crash on reddit earlier today.
Goddamn he hit hard. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 10:16:15 AM EDT
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Most recent statement from the family:
MEDIA INFORMATION ¦ 7 October 2014
A Statement from the family of Jules Bianchi Yokkaichi, Japan 7 October 2014, 23.00hrs local/15.00hrs BST The following statement is provided by the family of Jules Bianchi, in conjunction with the Mie General Medical Center, and is distributed on their behalf by the Marussia F1 Team. “This is a very difficult time for our family, but the messages of support and affection for Jules from all over the world have been a source of great comfort to us. We would like to express our sincere appreciation. Jules remains in the Intensive Care Unit of the Mie General Medical Center in Yokkaichi. He has suffered a diffuse axonal injury and is in a critical but stable condition. The medical professionals at the hospital are providing the very best treatment and care and we are grateful for everything they have done for Jules since his accident. We are also grateful for the presence of Professor Gerard Saillant, President of the FIA Medical Commission, and Professor Alessandro Frati, Neurosurgeon of the University of Rome La Sapienza, who has travelled to Japan at the request of Scuderia Ferrari. They arrived at the hospital today and met with the medical personnel responsible for Jules’ treatment, in order to be fully informed of his clinical status so that they are able to advise the family. Professors Saillant and Frati acknowledge the excellent care being provided by the Mie General Medical Center and would like to thank their Japanese colleagues. The hospital will continue to monitor and treat Jules and further medical updates will be provided when appropriate.” Read more at http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/1035/#9XpjSXhWaJU8vcx2.99 EDIT: Since everybody's going to want look it up here's the wikipedia link for Diffuse axonal injury. |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 10:25:57 AM EDT
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That is unfortunately, a grave diagnosis from my reading at Wikipedia. Best thoughts and wishes to Bianchi and his loved ones.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 10:31:08 AM EDT
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Most recent statement from the family: http://i.imgur.com/ji9Txec.png Read more at http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/1035/#9XpjSXhWaJU8vcx2.99 That's really not good. It sounds very likely that we will never see Jules Bianchi again.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 10:38:30 AM EDT
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That's really not good. It sounds very likely that we will never see Jules Bianchi again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most recent statement from the family: http://i.imgur.com/ji9Txec.png Read more at http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/1035/#9XpjSXhWaJU8vcx2.99 That's really not good. It sounds very likely that we will never see Jules Bianchi again. That does sound bad. From Wiki: Diffuse axonal injury (DAI) is one of the most common and devastating types of traumatic brain injury,[1] meaning that damage occurs over a more widespread area than in focal brain injury. DAI, which refers to extensive lesions in white matter tracts, is one of the major causes of unconsciousness and persistent vegetative state after head trauma.[2] It occurs in about half of all cases of severe head trauma.
The outcome is frequently coma, with over 90% of patients with severe DAI never regaining consciousness.[2] Those who do wake up often remain significantly impaired.[3] |
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Posted: 10/7/2014 10:44:21 AM EDT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffuse_axonal_injury
not good at all. |
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