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Link Posted: 1/31/2014 9:53:09 PM EDT
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F1 has officially gone full retard.

Lap times will be within a few seconds of GP2 times on race day.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 9:56:09 PM EDT
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Never been to a formula race but used to be able to hear the German grand Prix from the golf course in Hockenheim.  Very loud machines.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 10:11:09 PM EDT
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I doubt that.  

 
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 10:23:56 PM EDT
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Ted Kravitz, Sky Sports

Testing/development roundup from day 4 at Jerez (if anyone is interested, there are the 3 previous days on the same channel)

Link Posted: 1/31/2014 10:32:57 PM EDT
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A friend of mine is the performance engineer there so I can't either...


 



William Hill has them (and Caterham) at 2500:1 to win the Constructor's Championship.






Link Posted: 1/31/2014 10:36:42 PM EDT
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FIFY.



 
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 10:39:52 PM EDT
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Testing/development roundup from day 4 at Jerez (if anyone is interested, there are the 3 previous days on the same channel)



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Thanks for that Fike, I've not been able to watch any of it and wanted to catch up.



 
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 11:03:59 PM EDT
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Really?

Look at Hungary 2013 with last years regulations.
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 11:39:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/1/2014 12:13:54 AM EDT
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Testing/development roundup from day 4 at Jerez (if anyone is interested, there are the 3 previous days on the same channel)

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Very Very good video, gives you a idea of where everyone is....
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 7:32:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/1/2014 10:22:45 AM EDT
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Red Bull are notorious sandbaggers but Newey designs do have a history of overheating due to extremely tight packaging.

The WDCs he won with McLaren-Mercedes during the Hakkinen Era were very closely run affairs due to engine overheating issues.  And there was also the issue with Red Bull alternator failures as recently as last year.

ETA: As seen from the plan view, the taper on the rear of the Red Bull is pretty severe.  Looks pretty though.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 10:37:33 AM EDT
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Red Bull are notorious sandbaggers but Newey designs do have a history of overheating due to extremely tight packaging.

The WDCs he won with McLaren-Mercedes during the Hakkinen Era were very closely run affairs due to engine overheating issues.  And there was also the issue with Red Bull alternator failures as recently as last year.

ETA: As seen from the plan view, the taper on the rear of the Red Bull is pretty severe.  Looks pretty though.
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Wasn't it after berrillium or some kind of alloy was banned from use in Mercedes engines ?

After that, they have been unable to build and engin that would not burn out every other race.....  And they (maFIA) introduced the RPM limit next season....
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 11:44:49 AM EDT
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Ecclestone, who railed against the introduction of energy recovery-powered turbo V6 engines, said he isn't taking the blame. "They (the FIA and the teams) insisted on these new engines," he said. "If they wanted to race like this they should go to Le Mans."

Ecclestone said the arguments about saving fuel, with each driver now limited to just 100 kilos of fuel per race, don't even stack up. "Mercedes are taking 23 trucks with them everywhere. If they really wanted to save fuel they should stop that," he insisted.
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http://f1today.net/en/news/ecclestone-slams-jerez-testing-as-a-total-farce
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 12:44:29 PM EDT
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I have some photos of him and me around here somewhere, they were from "back in the day", when I thought F1 was fun...

I miss those days, working crazy, crazy hours but winning lots of races.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 4:11:12 PM EDT
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very happy to hear this.

I hope he will be like he was before

good luck Schumi on your way to recovery

Link Posted: 2/1/2014 4:43:46 PM EDT
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Article up on the F1Live24 app about the FIA requesting cross section design data from the teams. Apparently the FIA has some concerns about the safety of the new noses. The want cross section areas vertically and horizontally of the nose 50, 150 and 300mm from the tip of the nose.





Planet-F1

SportsPulse





 
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 5:01:27 PM EDT
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Ross Brawn has announced his retirement from F1. Looks like we won't see him at McLaren...this year.

Cheers on the retirement, Ross!



Michael Schumacher retired from F1 as well, and he came back.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 9:14:06 PM EDT
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Ecclestone, who railed against the introduction of energy recovery-powered turbo V6 engines, said he isn't taking the blame. "They (the FIA and the teams) insisted on these new engines," he said. "If they wanted to race like this they should go to Le Mans."

Ecclestone said the arguments about saving fuel, with each driver now limited to just 100 kilos of fuel per race, don't even stack up. "Mercedes are taking 23 trucks with them everywhere. If they really wanted to save fuel they should stop that," he insisted.


http://f1today.net/en/news/ecclestone-slams-jerez-testing-as-a-total-farce


Bernie and I are in perfect agreement.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 9:30:51 PM EDT
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Ecclestone, who railed against the introduction of energy recovery-powered turbo V6 engines, said he isn't taking the blame. "They (the FIA and the teams) insisted on these new engines," he said. "If they wanted to race like this they should go to Le Mans."



Ecclestone said the arguments about saving fuel, with each driver now limited to just 100 kilos of fuel per race, don't even stack up. "Mercedes are taking 23 trucks with them everywhere. If they really wanted to save fuel they should stop that," he insisted.




http://f1today.net/en/news/ecclestone-slams-jerez-testing-as-a-total-farce




Bernie and I are in perfect agreement.
Me too.  Faggotry has no place in F1.
Link Posted: 2/4/2014 6:31:39 PM EDT
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2014 Steering Wheel Display provided by McLaren.

Link Posted: 2/5/2014 1:35:05 AM EDT
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Formula strap-on....

Those noses are terrible.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 9:42:37 AM EDT
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This is a derivative of the MES dash/ECU/telemetry system we developed here in the US on our HPD sportscars, we were the test group for this back in 2009.

The example above has been set up for demonstration purposes, in proper use it doesn't display that way. It is actually quite a lot more sophisticated than is being shown.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 4:58:52 PM EDT
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This is a derivative of the MES dash/ECU/telemetry system we developed here in the US on our HPD sportscars, we were the test group for this back in 2009.

The example above has been set up for demonstration purposes, in proper use it doesn't display that way. It is actually quite a lot more sophisticated than is being shown.
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2014 Steering Wheel Display provided by McLaren.

http://youtu.be/HsOQWbJZ9mY


This is a derivative of the MES dash/ECU/telemetry system we developed here in the US on our HPD sportscars, we were the test group for this back in 2009.

The example above has been set up for demonstration purposes, in proper use it doesn't display that way. It is actually quite a lot more sophisticated than is being shown.


That is awesome.

If you wrote a book, I'd pay money to read it.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 8:33:31 PM EDT
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That is awesome.

If you wrote a book, I'd pay money to read it.
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2014 Steering Wheel Display provided by McLaren.

http://youtu.be/HsOQWbJZ9mY


This is a derivative of the MES dash/ECU/telemetry system we developed here in the US on our HPD sportscars, we were the test group for this back in 2009.

The example above has been set up for demonstration purposes, in proper use it doesn't display that way. It is actually quite a lot more sophisticated than is being shown.


That is awesome.

If you wrote a book, I'd pay money to read it.


I have long threatened to do just that...
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2014 Steering Wheel Display provided by McLaren.

http://youtu.be/HsOQWbJZ9mY


This is a derivative of the MES dash/ECU/telemetry system we developed here in the US on our HPD sportscars, we were the test group for this back in 2009.

The example above has been set up for demonstration purposes, in proper use it doesn't display that way. It is actually quite a lot more sophisticated than is being shown.


That is awesome.

If you wrote a book, I'd pay money to read it.


I have long threatened to do just that...


Please do.

Would you ever consider heading back to F1 with Honda if they offered?
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 8:52:14 PM EDT
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desperately trying to hold out judgment until I see them racing in anger in Melbourne.

its hard as the FIA, Bernie, and F1 are all stuffed full of DERP!
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 10:09:47 PM EDT
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Please do.

Would you ever consider heading back to F1 with Honda if they offered?
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2014 Steering Wheel Display provided by McLaren.

http://youtu.be/HsOQWbJZ9mY


This is a derivative of the MES dash/ECU/telemetry system we developed here in the US on our HPD sportscars, we were the test group for this back in 2009.

The example above has been set up for demonstration purposes, in proper use it doesn't display that way. It is actually quite a lot more sophisticated than is being shown.


That is awesome.

If you wrote a book, I'd pay money to read it.


I have long threatened to do just that...


Please do.

Would you ever consider heading back to F1 with Honda if they offered?



My time in F1 was all with the Mclaren/Honda combo so in some ways it seems appealing. I have spoken with several people there over the years and it is surprising how many of those that I worked with are still working for them, Ron always said that his goal was to create a place where everyone could retire from if they so desired. When I first started there we were a workforce of 75, this grew to around 300 by the time I left and we all know how big it is now...

The place in Woking was only ever meant to be a temporary move until a site could be found to have everything under one roof, the search took decades and spanned the country but ironically ended in.....................Woking.

Would I consider going back? Ron told me that the door was always open if I decided to return but I don't relish the thought of moving again, (I've lived in 5 different countries), and as I am now a resident of California I don't think the weather in the UK would suit me too well. The only thing drawing me there is the fact that my daughter just moved there last November, I'd like to visit her.
Link Posted: 2/6/2014 11:27:21 AM EDT
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Nero Ferrari

Link Posted: 2/6/2014 3:35:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/7/2014 5:55:54 AM EDT
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What are the thoughts on Lotus's Asymmetrical nose?





I've got 2 theories,





1) It is designed to take advantage of the typical clockwise running of the tracks






2) It is designed to "1/2" the disadvantageous new aerodynamic regulations







I admit, I may be talking out of my ass, but if there was a way to take advantage of the new rules these seem like possible solutions.

 
Link Posted: 2/7/2014 6:02:15 AM EDT
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Slick, think they'll be able to use this and get rid of the drop down monitors the drivers normally use in the garage?

 
Link Posted: 2/7/2014 6:26:31 AM EDT
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What are the thoughts on Lotus's Asymmetrical nose?

I've got 2 theories,

1) It is designed to take advantage of the typical clockwise running of the tracks

2) It is designed to "1/2" the disadvantageous new aerodynamic regulations

I admit, I may be talking out of my ass, but if there was a way to take advantage of the new rules these seem like possible solutions.
 
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It's asymmetrical in order to conform to the crash structure regulations. The longer side is the actual crash structure, while the shorter side exists to complete the "tunnel" which channels the airflow under the nose and around the side pods.

Lotus are currently using their promotional 100kms at Jerez (which has turned into a de facto Renault shakedown)...so we should get some better pics.

E22 @ Jerez


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Me too
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Sortof like. Why is it black?



A promotional deal? Some anniversary? Domenicali exploring his goth side?



m



 
Link Posted: 2/7/2014 6:54:13 AM EDT
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Sortof like. Why is it black?

A promotional deal? Some anniversary? Domenicali exploring his goth side?

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Sortof like. Why is it black?

A promotional deal? Some anniversary? Domenicali exploring his goth side?

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It's a fan derived photoshop
Link Posted: 2/7/2014 7:15:27 AM EDT
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It's asymmetrical in order to conform to the crash structure regulations. The longer side is the actual crash structure, while the shorter side exists to complete the "tunnel" which channels the airflow under the nose and around the side pods.

Lotus are currently using their promotional 100kms at Jerez (which has turned into a de facto Renault shakedown)...so we should get some better pics.

E22 @ Jerez

http://grandprix247.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bf2_LixCYAE-kFl-640x360.jpg
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What's going on?
Link Posted: 2/7/2014 10:04:32 AM EDT
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More Lotus.

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Like the colors, but that nose is just
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It's asymmetrical in order to conform to the crash structure regulations. The longer side is the actual crash structure, while the shorter side exists to complete the "tunnel" which channels the airflow under the nose and around the side pods.

Lotus are currently using their promotional 100kms at Jerez (which has turned into a de facto Renault shakedown)...so we should get some better pics.

E22 @ Jerez

http://grandprix247.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bf2_LixCYAE-kFl-640x360.jpg


What's going on?


Each team has use of 100km of track time for "promotional" use (photos, vids, etc.) It is pretty restricted, but it does allow the car to run 100km on a track. (Mercedes used their 100km prior to the first test at Silverstone)

Lotus is in Jerez using their 100km and as this is a golden opportunity for Renault to do a bit more (badly needed) power unit testing, they have volunteered to pay the Lotus expenses for the test. They have also invited representatives from each Renault powered team to attend.

http://grandprix247.com/2014/02/07/renault-invite-red-bull-caterham-and-toro-rosso-to-lotus-promotional-event-at-jerez/
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Those are 2013 spec front and rear wings, which is interesting.
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Those are 2013 spec front and rear wings, which is interesting.
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Those are 2013 spec front and rear wings, which is interesting.


Good catch.
Link Posted: 2/8/2014 12:08:28 AM EDT
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Lotus continues its slide in a bizarrely public way....

This is about the 30th faux paux their social media team has issued in the last few months. At some point they changed from edgy yet appropriate to scorned teenage troll.

I'm not sure if anyone is in charge.

http://grandprix247.com/2014/02/08/lotus-social-media-message-supporting-gay-rights-in-russia-backfires/
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I do like reading that the Williams with Massa in it was the fastest by the end of this phase of testing.



I'm a huge Massa fan.







so am I



great to see him stay in F1



will for sure follow him this year and wish him much luck







I would love to see Williams regain some of its fortunes of past. After Senna, Williams has be relatively quiet.


In 1996 Jacques Villeneuve finished in second place in his rookie year and in 1997 he won the Championship driving the Williams.
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In 1996 Jacques Villeneuve finished in second place in his rookie year and in 1997 he won the Championship driving the Williams.



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I do like reading that the Williams with Massa in it was the fastest by the end of this phase of testing.

I'm a huge Massa fan.



so am I

great to see him stay in F1

will for sure follow him this year and wish him much luck



I would love to see Williams regain some of its fortunes of past. After Senna, Williams has be relatively quiet.

In 1996 Jacques Villeneuve finished in second place in his rookie year and in 1997 he won the Championship driving the Williams.





94-95 Damon HIll was 2nd in the WDC and won in 96 with Williams.
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94-95 Damon HIll was 2nd in the WDC and won in 96 with Williams.
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I would love to see Williams regain some of its fortunes of past. After Senna, Williams has be relatively quiet.

In 1996 Jacques Villeneuve finished in second place in his rookie year and in 1997 he won the Championship driving the Williams.


94-95 Damon HIll was 2nd in the WDC and won in 96 with Williams.


It was Newey leaving that began Williams' slide.  Frank and Patrick Head were too greedy to pay him the big $$$.

Same thing with drivers - if you notice, pretty much every driver who won a WDC with Williams left the following season because they wouldn't pay them WDC $$$.
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It was Newey leaving that began Williams' slide.  Frank and Patrick Head were too greedy to pay him the big $$$.



Same thing with drivers - if you notice, pretty much every driver who won a WDC with Williams left the following season because they wouldn't pay them WDC $$$.
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In 1996 Jacques Villeneuve finished in second place in his rookie year and in 1997 he won the Championship driving the Williams.





94-95 Damon HIll was 2nd in the WDC and won in 96 with Williams.




It was Newey leaving that began Williams' slide.  Frank and Patrick Head were too greedy to pay him the big $$$.



Same thing with drivers - if you notice, pretty much every driver who won a WDC with Williams left the following season because they wouldn't pay them WDC $$$.


Frank has been of the opinion that drivers are paid to drive. Its not his job to make them rich but to have a winning team and car. Its worked for him well for the most part.



 
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Frank has been of the opinion that drivers are paid to drive. Its not his job to make them rich but to have a winning team and car. Its worked for him well for the most part.
 
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I would love to see Williams regain some of its fortunes of past. After Senna, Williams has be relatively quiet.

In 1996 Jacques Villeneuve finished in second place in his rookie year and in 1997 he won the Championship driving the Williams.


94-95 Damon HIll was 2nd in the WDC and won in 96 with Williams.


It was Newey leaving that began Williams' slide.  Frank and Patrick Head were too greedy to pay him the big $$$.

Same thing with drivers - if you notice, pretty much every driver who won a WDC with Williams left the following season because they wouldn't pay them WDC $$$.

Frank has been of the opinion that drivers are paid to drive. Its not his job to make them rich but to have a winning team and car. Its worked for him well for the most part.
 


It worked well for him until he applied the same philosophy to the people who designed his cars.  Then not so much.
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Each team has use of 100km of track time for "promotional" use (photos, vids, etc.) It is pretty restricted, but it does allow the car to run 100km on a track. (Mercedes used their 100km prior to the first test at Silverstone)

Lotus is in Jerez using their 100km and as this is a golden opportunity for Renault to do a bit more (badly needed) power unit testing, they have volunteered to pay the Lotus expenses for the test. They have also invited representatives from each Renault powered team to attend.

http://grandprix247.com/2014/02/07/renault-invite-red-bull-caterham-and-toro-rosso-to-lotus-promotional-event-at-jerez/
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It's asymmetrical in order to conform to the crash structure regulations. The longer side is the actual crash structure, while the shorter side exists to complete the "tunnel" which channels the airflow under the nose and around the side pods.

Lotus are currently using their promotional 100kms at Jerez (which has turned into a de facto Renault shakedown)...so we should get some better pics.

E22 @ Jerez

http://grandprix247.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bf2_LixCYAE-kFl-640x360.jpg


What's going on?


Each team has use of 100km of track time for "promotional" use (photos, vids, etc.) It is pretty restricted, but it does allow the car to run 100km on a track. (Mercedes used their 100km prior to the first test at Silverstone)

Lotus is in Jerez using their 100km and as this is a golden opportunity for Renault to do a bit more (badly needed) power unit testing, they have volunteered to pay the Lotus expenses for the test. They have also invited representatives from each Renault powered team to attend.

http://grandprix247.com/2014/02/07/renault-invite-red-bull-caterham-and-toro-rosso-to-lotus-promotional-event-at-jerez/


So is Lotus claiming "promotional" work, and the Renault guys just "happen" to be there looking at telemetry?
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