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Link Posted: 8/15/2014 3:37:06 PM EDT
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Renault laid down an ultimatum that if there wasn't more done to make the engine technology greener they would leave the sport. Ironically they proceeded to develop an absolute piece of shit engine. The concept of hybrid turbo charged V-6 engines was not bad, however the execution has been a bit lack luster. While the power delivery is much better than last time they sound like shit.



Bernie is the least of the problems that F1 has.

 
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I don't think you'll see the current stupidity go away until Bernie goes away.  Sadly I don't think there will be much of a sport left when he's done.





Why do people keep repeating this?  Bernie was no fan of the engine reg change.  It was the manufacturers that pushed that one, mainly Mercedes and Renault.



Bernie is far from the biggest problem F1 has.  I worry more about the day he's gone and the sport potentially goes the way of CART.


Renault laid down an ultimatum that if there wasn't more done to make the engine technology greener they would leave the sport. Ironically they proceeded to develop an absolute piece of shit engine. The concept of hybrid turbo charged V-6 engines was not bad, however the execution has been a bit lack luster. While the power delivery is much better than last time they sound like shit.



Bernie is the least of the problems that F1 has.

 
the FIA is their biggest problem.  



the turbo V6 shouldve never been mandated



 
Link Posted: 8/15/2014 3:42:47 PM EDT
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the FIA is their biggest problem.  

the turbo V6 shouldve never been mandated
 
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I don't think you'll see the current stupidity go away until Bernie goes away.  Sadly I don't think there will be much of a sport left when he's done.


Why do people keep repeating this?  Bernie was no fan of the engine reg change.  It was the manufacturers that pushed that one, mainly Mercedes and Renault.

Bernie is far from the biggest problem F1 has.  I worry more about the day he's gone and the sport potentially goes the way of CART.

Renault laid down an ultimatum that if there wasn't more done to make the engine technology greener they would leave the sport. Ironically they proceeded to develop an absolute piece of shit engine. The concept of hybrid turbo charged V-6 engines was not bad, however the execution has been a bit lack luster. While the power delivery is much better than last time they sound like shit.

Bernie is the least of the problems that F1 has.
 
the FIA is their biggest problem.  

the turbo V6 shouldve never been mandated
 


I still think they should have had some sunset period where the two engine formulas ran side-by-side.  

They could have used a new mandated exhaust location to get rid of the EBD trickery.
Link Posted: 8/15/2014 6:05:28 PM EDT
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I still think they should have had some sunset period where the two engine formulas ran side-by-side.  





They could have used a new mandated exhaust location to get rid of the EBD trickery.
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I don't think you'll see the current stupidity go away until Bernie goes away.  Sadly I don't think there will be much of a sport left when he's done.








Why do people keep repeating this?  Bernie was no fan of the engine reg change.  It was the manufacturers that pushed that one, mainly Mercedes and Renault.





Bernie is far from the biggest problem F1 has.  I worry more about the day he's gone and the sport potentially goes the way of CART.



Renault laid down an ultimatum that if there wasn't more done to make the engine technology greener they would leave the sport. Ironically they proceeded to develop an absolute piece of shit engine. The concept of hybrid turbo charged V-6 engines was not bad, however the execution has been a bit lack luster. While the power delivery is much better than last time they sound like shit.





Bernie is the least of the problems that F1 has.


 
the FIA is their biggest problem.  





the turbo V6 shouldve never been mandated


 






I still think they should have had some sunset period where the two engine formulas ran side-by-side.  





They could have used a new mandated exhaust location to get rid of the EBD trickery.
coanda effect




and the teams shouldve gotten the same engine rules package as P1
 
Link Posted: 8/15/2014 6:26:49 PM EDT
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Agreed.  The fuel-flow limit is the biggest problem, IMHO.  The engines are running about 4,000 RPMs below what they were designed to do, and about 9,000 below what they probably could do.





The sound would be a hell of a lot better, power would be incredible, and fuel-use strategy would really come into play.
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The concept of hybrid turbo charged V-6 engines was not bad, however the execution has been a bit lack luster. While the power delivery is much better than last time they sound like shit.





 






Agreed.  The fuel-flow limit is the biggest problem, IMHO.  The engines are running about 4,000 RPMs below what they were designed to do, and about 9,000 below what they probably could do.





The sound would be a hell of a lot better, power would be incredible, and fuel-use strategy would really come into play.



It's a turbocharged engine, which pretty much makes the RPM limit pointless, as you get diminishing returns meaning no matter how fast you spin the turbo, it can only compress the air so much.  So, why spin an engine at 15K if it makes miniscule power over spinning it at 10K, considering the amount of wear you save on the engine by not going balls to the wall.  





I laughed my ass off when I saw the 15K limit, I knew they would never reach it.. they didn't in the 80's either with the 1.5L 4s, those were around 11K-12K RPM.





The fuel flow and fuel limit is not the issue IMO, the issue is more the limited in-season engine changes allowed, and the very limited testing allowed.  The testing ban needs to be lifted if they are going to make drastic changes to the sport like they did this year.



Also, FUCK RENAULT!, they asked for this shit, then hamstrung their teams to the tune of 100HP.  Cocksuckers.





 
Link Posted: 8/15/2014 8:11:48 PM EDT
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The lack of testing is bullshit. I can't believe they wouldn't have open testing for at least part of the year to work out all the details of the new power units and brake by wire systems.
Link Posted: 8/17/2014 8:27:28 PM EDT
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Im watching F1 year 2000 in review, its sweet but it is definately just a review. Any lead on complete race coverage available on DVD? For other years.
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 9:05:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/18/2014 9:38:08 AM EDT
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Agreed.  The fuel-flow limit is the biggest problem, IMHO.  The engines are running about 4,000 RPMs below what they were designed to do, and about 9,000 below what they probably could do.



The sound would be a hell of a lot better, power would be incredible, and fuel-use strategy would really come into play.
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The concept of hybrid turbo charged V-6 engines was not bad, however the execution has been a bit lack luster. While the power delivery is much better than last time they sound like shit.



 




Agreed.  The fuel-flow limit is the biggest problem, IMHO.  The engines are running about 4,000 RPMs below what they were designed to do, and about 9,000 below what they probably could do.



The sound would be a hell of a lot better, power would be incredible, and fuel-use strategy would really come into play.


Yep, I'm much less bothered by the engine design than the whole sound and fuel flow circus. Some of the people behind the current BS must think a Formula One race should look like this.







 
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 5:39:36 PM EDT
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Looks like they purchased a new nose from Frank:



(ETA: Or has Frank bought out Caterham's paint shop?)

 
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 5:57:10 PM EDT
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Looks like they purchased a new nose from Frank:

(ETA: Or has Frank bought out Caterham's paint shop?)

http://www.f1sport.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Williams-F1-Martini.jpg
 
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Looks like they purchased a new nose from Frank:

(ETA: Or has Frank bought out Caterham's paint shop?)

http://www.f1sport.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Williams-F1-Martini.jpg
 


Link Posted: 8/18/2014 7:01:20 PM EDT
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Toro Rosso confirms Max Verstappen for 2015 who will be the youngest F1 driver ever at 17 years 5 months at the start of next season.
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 7:04:47 PM EDT
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Toro Rosso confirms Max Verstappen for 2015 who will be the youngest F1 driver ever at 17 years 5 months at the start of next season.
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Just seen that wow
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 7:24:55 PM EDT
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Toro Rosso confirms Max Verstappen for 2015 who will be the youngest F1 driver ever at 17 years 5 months at the start of next season.
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Figured something was up earlier in the day when all of the F1 circus started following him on Twitter.
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 8:57:18 PM EDT
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Will it happen or not?  Who knows
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 10:18:42 PM EDT
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Fernando Alonso:
"The strongest in Formula 1 was Michael. In the years when I was staring in Formula 1, in 2001 he dominated and he did so up until 2005 and he was on another level. With him it was never easy. Then I got the opportunity to race against him on equal terms for a few years and he was always able to do something special, something more than you were expecting, or maybe more than the car was capable of. So you always had to keep an eye on him."

On strongest team mate : "It's a difficult question. They were all different, all had strong points and some not so strong, so I had a heard time with all of them in terms of performance and you had to give your maximum because they were ultra competitive. I remember Trulli, Trulli's qualifying ability was the best I've ever come across among all my team-mates. Then there was 'Fisico' Fisichella, for two years in Renault, when we won the Constructors' titles and he was always on it, in every race, in all conditions, a really complete driver. There was Massa and now Kimi and, even in the past there were kids in go-karts who were super, so it's not easy to choose one. All of them helped me, and I learned a lot from them to do with various aspects, but they all had something special."
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I noticed one name in particular was missing from the list of teammates.

I remember an interview in 2010 when Hamilton said Alonso was the best driver he had driven against (in front of his teammate and current WDC Jenson Button who was being interviewed with him).
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 10:34:10 PM EDT
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That's BS Verstappen replacing JEV.   JEV has almost twice the points of Kyvat, despite having 5 retirements to none from Kyvat.
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 11:08:17 PM EDT
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That's BS Verstappen replacing JEV.   JEV has almost twice the points of Kyvat, despite having 5 retirements to none from Kyvat.
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Toro Rosso is ruthless. Shape up or ship out, and you had better not get old. It is a development team and they are developing a new driver.
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 11:16:03 PM EDT
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Toro Rosso is ruthless. Shape up or ship out, and you had better not get old. It is a development team and they are developing a new driver.
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That's BS Verstappen replacing JEV.   JEV has almost twice the points of Kyvat, despite having 5 retirements to none from Kyvat.


Toro Rosso is ruthless. Shape up or ship out, and you had better not get old. It is a development team and they are developing a new driver.

JEV was just as good as Riccardo, I'm pretty shocked they'd let him go. I thought he deserved a promotion!
Link Posted: 8/18/2014 11:48:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/20/2014 5:22:29 PM EDT
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Will it happen or not?  Who knows
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Confirmed.

And made official from the team.

The team's release makes it sound like it may not be permanent.
Link Posted: 8/20/2014 6:10:57 PM EDT
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Confirmed.

And made official from the team.

The team's release makes it sound like it may not be permanent.
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Confirmed.

And made official from the team.

The team's release makes it sound like it may not be permanent.


Huh
Link Posted: 8/20/2014 6:19:32 PM EDT
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And we're back!.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 10:02:59 AM EDT
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From the article: "But he never sniffed a race seat."



Probably a good idea in the realm of endurance racing.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 10:03:49 AM EDT
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I hated those damned grooved tires.

 
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 11:48:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2014 1:39:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2014 1:51:37 PM EDT
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It's a turbocharged engine, which pretty much makes the RPM limit pointless, as you get diminishing returns meaning no matter how fast you spin the turbo, it can only compress the air so much.  So, why spin an engine at 15K if it makes miniscule power over spinning it at 10K, considering the amount of wear you save on the engine by not going balls to the wall.  



I laughed my ass off when I saw the 15K limit, I knew they would never reach it.. they didn't in the 80's either with the 1.5L 4s, those were around 11K-12K RPM.



The fuel flow and fuel limit is not the issue IMO, the issue is more the limited in-season engine changes allowed, and the very limited testing allowed.  The testing ban needs to be lifted if they are going to make drastic changes to the sport like they did this year.



Also, FUCK RENAULT!, they asked for this shit, then hamstrung their teams to the tune of 100HP.  Cocksuckers.

 
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The concept of hybrid turbo charged V-6 engines was not bad, however the execution has been a bit lack luster. While the power delivery is much better than last time they sound like shit.



 




Agreed.  The fuel-flow limit is the biggest problem, IMHO.  The engines are running about 4,000 RPMs below what they were designed to do, and about 9,000 below what they probably could do.



The sound would be a hell of a lot better, power would be incredible, and fuel-use strategy would really come into play.


It's a turbocharged engine, which pretty much makes the RPM limit pointless, as you get diminishing returns meaning no matter how fast you spin the turbo, it can only compress the air so much.  So, why spin an engine at 15K if it makes miniscule power over spinning it at 10K, considering the amount of wear you save on the engine by not going balls to the wall.  



I laughed my ass off when I saw the 15K limit, I knew they would never reach it.. they didn't in the 80's either with the 1.5L 4s, those were around 11K-12K RPM.



The fuel flow and fuel limit is not the issue IMO, the issue is more the limited in-season engine changes allowed, and the very limited testing allowed.  The testing ban needs to be lifted if they are going to make drastic changes to the sport like they did this year.



Also, FUCK RENAULT!, they asked for this shit, then hamstrung their teams to the tune of 100HP.  Cocksuckers.

 
i dont think you realize how much power the engines would be making with no fuel flow limit or rpm limit..



 
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 1:54:50 PM EDT
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22 years of Eau Rouge from an F1 car's perspective

One iconic corner, 21 iconic Formula 1 cars.








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http://youtu.be/myy4K9B9zT0





http://youtu.be/myy4K9B9zT0


It starts out with them lifting a bit for the right hander to going flat out all the way through!



 
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 2:22:53 PM EDT
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That's awesome. I had a chance to meet him in Daytona earlier this year and he signed a Caterham F1 picture for me.

He has steep competition with Bianchi though.
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 3:25:16 PM EDT
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Okay, now to post some LEGIT photos of the new Caterham nose.

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Good for Rossi.  I really like the guy, just hope he can get a fair shake from Marussia.  Maybe if he shows himself worthy, he'll be a shoe-in for the new Haas team
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Good for Rossi.  I really like the guy, just hope he can get a fair shake from Marussia.  Maybe if he shows himself worthy, he'll be a shoe-in for the new Haas team
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Good for Rossi.  I really like the guy, just hope he can get a fair shake from Marussia.  Maybe if he shows himself worthy, he'll be a shoe-in for the new Haas team

It would be cool to have a massive rainstorm mix things up and have him pull off something like Markus Winkelhock did in '07.  
Link Posted: 8/21/2014 11:02:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2014 12:32:54 AM EDT
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Hours away from FP1!

As a WEC fan I'm excited to see how Andre Lotterer does. He did already run at Spa this year so he does know the track.
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 12:38:31 AM EDT
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22 years of Eau Rouge from an F1 car's perspective
One iconic corner, 21 iconic Formula 1 cars.

http://youtu.be/myy4K9B9zT0


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Best corner, best track in racing. The day they dump Spa is the day I stop watching.
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 3:40:23 AM EDT
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FP1 about to start...

Link Posted: 8/22/2014 3:53:08 AM EDT
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Hamilton on strategy for the quali and pole: "Flat out. I'll just be flat out, foot to floor."

Link Posted: 8/22/2014 4:00:09 AM EDT
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GREEN LIGHTS!

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Okay, now to post some LEGIT photos of the new Caterham nose.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvkVnbRIQAAvONh.jpg
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they finally profiled it and got rid of the neanderthal brow



 
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 4:21:41 AM EDT
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SkyF1 reporting that Rossi WILL NOT be driving Sunday and Chilton will be.
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 7:12:50 AM EDT
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I can't wait for Sunday's race, I have always loved Spa.
I caught F1 sidecar racing the other day on MavTv, Wow!
If you ever get a chance, check it out.
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 4:52:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2014 4:56:41 PM EDT
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Bullshit
Link Posted: 8/22/2014 6:13:03 PM EDT
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Alex Zanardi's Crash at Eau Rouge in 1993:

Link Posted: 8/22/2014 6:54:55 PM EDT
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Maldonado has started FP2.

Link Posted: 8/22/2014 7:39:10 PM EDT
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Check this GP3 crash out

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