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Link Posted: 4/9/2014 10:41:04 PM EDT
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That's the part that I kind of enjoy. I don't "hate" Ferrari the car company. In fact, I have a 2014 calendar of their road cars hanging above my desk as I type this. I've just never cared for the snobbery of the long-time monied elite... in all walks and pursuits of life. I've got nothing personal against Alonzo or Kimi either. In fact, I used to root for Alonzo and I still root for Kimi. But there's something about the hierarchy of the Ferrari F1 racing team and company and bugs the hell out of me. I think it's that expectation that they're always the best and will always outclass the competition no matter what -- that haughty, arrogant attitude. My dream car is a Ferrari (458 Spider in terms of current production). I'd probably choose Ferrari ownership over Lotus, McClaren, Lamborgini, etc. I've been fascinated with the red pony cars for many years. But I think it's good for EVERY entity (even RBR) to be humbled and broken-down once in a while. Of course, there's NO doubt in my mind that a few more humbling years at Ferrari racing won't even begin to touch that arrogance. It's institutional and has been for generations now.
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Let's be real here... everybody NOT on a Mercedes power-plant is doing plenty of bitching. Why friggin single-out RBR?




That's just part of the price of a lot of success, man.  You win a bunch of championships, the press is going to print more about what you say, and if it sucks, you're gonna get called out more on it than the other teams.



And as for talking shit about Ferrari.... damn, why bother?  Nothing anyone says is going to make things worse for them.  They're in full-on implosion mode.... shit-tons of money, two of the best drivers on the grid, and they can't build a car that can even get them close to competing.  I can't imagine how much that must suck.  




That's the part that I kind of enjoy. I don't "hate" Ferrari the car company. In fact, I have a 2014 calendar of their road cars hanging above my desk as I type this. I've just never cared for the snobbery of the long-time monied elite... in all walks and pursuits of life. I've got nothing personal against Alonzo or Kimi either. In fact, I used to root for Alonzo and I still root for Kimi. But there's something about the hierarchy of the Ferrari F1 racing team and company and bugs the hell out of me. I think it's that expectation that they're always the best and will always outclass the competition no matter what -- that haughty, arrogant attitude. My dream car is a Ferrari (458 Spider in terms of current production). I'd probably choose Ferrari ownership over Lotus, McClaren, Lamborgini, etc. I've been fascinated with the red pony cars for many years. But I think it's good for EVERY entity (even RBR) to be humbled and broken-down once in a while. Of course, there's NO doubt in my mind that a few more humbling years at Ferrari racing won't even begin to touch that arrogance. It's institutional and has been for generations now.


You have to understand though, R_B, that arrogance is as much a part of the institution as the prancing horse.  Enzo was one of the most arrogant people ever to walk this earth.  When they had people that weren't arrogant, but cold, calculating, and the best in the business (Brawn, and Schumacher to be specific, Niki Lauda is also a good example of this, Kimi also, but he's got a mountain of shit to climb to make it to the top again) they won.   If they can find someone to LEAD the team that isn't Italian and isn't interested in the Ferrari legacy, they will win again.



 
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 1:31:18 AM EDT
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Damn... I'm pretty sure someone on the Scuderia pissed off a Gypsy or something....  


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"It's a shitbox!  It's amazing - all these facilities, and you make a piece of crap like this.

"---Niki Lauda


Funny, I watched the movie for the first time last night and that quote stood out to me at the time and not because of current circumstances. It doesn't matter how much money and resources you have if you lack the passion to keep improving.
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 6:40:04 AM EDT
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Funny, I watched the movie for the first time last night and that quote stood out to me at the time and not because of current circumstances. It doesn't matter how much money and resources you have if you lack the passion to keep improving.
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Damn... I'm pretty sure someone on the Scuderia pissed off a Gypsy or something....  


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"It's a shitbox!  It's amazing - all these facilities, and you make a piece of crap like this.

"---Niki Lauda


Funny, I watched the movie for the first time last night and that quote stood out to me at the time and not because of current circumstances. It doesn't matter how much money and resources you have if you lack the passion to keep improving.



As someone who has been there and done that---what did you think of the movie?
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 8:14:41 AM EDT
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What I wonder is with Ferrari and Renault having such a massive struggle with the new motor regs, is Honda champing at the bit or scared to death?

No doubt they'll have willing customer teams after this debacle....
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I'll bet Honda uses some variation of Merc's separated Turbine/Compressor.

After reading about that, I'm convinced we'll see some adaptation of it in pass cars eventually.  It's really trick.
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You have to understand though, R_B, that arrogance is as much a part of the institution as the prancing horse.  Enzo was one of the most arrogant people ever to walk this earth.  When they had people that weren't arrogant, but cold, calculating, and the best in the business (Brawn, and Schumacher to be specific, Niki Lauda is also a good example of this, Kimi also, but he's got a mountain of shit to climb to make it to the top again) they won.   If they can find someone to LEAD the team that isn't Italian and isn't interested in the Ferrari legacy, they will win again.
 
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Well, I'm certainly seeing glimpses of it from RBR lately. But part of the reason I became a big fan of RBR several years ago is that here was this "upstart" energy drink company, taking it to the red dynasty and making them look "not the best" anymore. I loved that. I've nearly always rooted for the underdog. Which is why I'm hoping that Williams and Force India can keep taking it to some of the big names (even RBR). I wouldn't mind seeing Caterham and Lotus get their acts together this year either. But I won't hold my breath on that.
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 10:11:27 AM EDT
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As someone who has been there and done that---what did you think of the movie?
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Damn... I'm pretty sure someone on the Scuderia pissed off a Gypsy or something....  


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"It's a shitbox!  It's amazing - all these facilities, and you make a piece of crap like this.

"---Niki Lauda


Funny, I watched the movie for the first time last night and that quote stood out to me at the time and not because of current circumstances. It doesn't matter how much money and resources you have if you lack the passion to keep improving.



As someone who has been there and done that---what did you think of the movie?


I enjoyed it for what it was. I purposely didn't watch it when it came out, I waited for the hype to die down and wanted to see it without bias. Many people in the industry, including several drivers, had told me that they liked it but I haven't had much luck with racing movies, not since Grand Prix and Le Mans anyway.

I knew James Hunt after he retired from driving, met Nikki Lauda a few times so had some measure of intimacy with the characters so I wasn't expecting the movie to do anything for me but Ron Howard did a decent job within the length of a film to show their relationship. One thing that is difficult to convey to a general audience is just how different things were in those days, many of the things you see have to be taken in context with the times.

I give it two thumbs up.  
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 10:22:19 AM EDT
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Thats great to hear--I loved the movie--saw it twice intheaters just for the noise :)
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 1:04:51 PM EDT
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I'll bet Honda uses some variation of Merc's separated Turbine/Compressor.



After reading about that, I'm convinced we'll see some adaptation of it in pass cars eventually.  It's really trick.
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What I wonder is with Ferrari and Renault having such a massive struggle with the new motor regs, is Honda champing at the bit or scared to death?



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I'll bet Honda uses some variation of Merc's separated Turbine/Compressor.



After reading about that, I'm convinced we'll see some adaptation of it in pass cars eventually.  It's really trick.


Honda has a lot morevexperience with smaller engines than the rest. Look at the NR500 they came up with years back. 32 valves and oval-shaped pistons. While it wasn't a huge success in the series, it was a hard running little engine. It couldn't really compete against the two strokes that dominated FIM in those days but it ran reliably for the most part. Its complexity puts it right up there with the current spec V-6 F1 engine.



I think Honda will do very well if they decide to come back to F1 even if its just as a customer engine supplier. I have to agree thinking Honda will go with the split compressor/turbine config. In this spec, with a motor driven turbine at low engine rpm,  it makes a lot of sense. The benefit of separating the red hot turbine from the compressor is worth it just by itself.



It will be interesting to see if this engine spec makes it to the street. I can't imagine being able to tune a street engine to 600 hp or even more!



 
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The split-turbo tech definitely needs to trickle-down into the street.

The electrically-boosted turbo tech, IMHO, has even more "real-world" potential.  Big honking turbos with no lag?  Awesome.  
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 4:29:29 PM EDT
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Minardi is reporting BMW is ready to come back to F1






Burbanite, is this something you have been working on? It's a good looking car and if so, I will be cheering for y'all. Also, do you guys ever do any testing at TRC here in Ohio?
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Maybe Renault's difficulties will make Nissan take over the program and they'll build a facility here in Tennessee.  
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Did they ever get their wind tunnel fixed?
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Please leave Ferrari out of the RB dirty laundry, will ya

They have their own mess to deal with


Did they ever get their wind tunnel fixed?


Yes yes... Apparently... To bad They fired Costa for Mercedes though
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I don't always like what Nikki has to say... but dayum, it's hard not to love the guy for saying what he thinks and just laying it out there. That's the thing I noticed in "Rush"... I kinda wanted to hate the guy, but just couldn't. That kind of honesty and non-PC talk is near and dear to my heart.
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Damn... I'm pretty sure someone on the Scuderia pissed off a Gypsy or something....  


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"It's a shitbox!  It's amazing - all these facilities, and you make a piece of crap like this.

"---Nikki Lauda




I don't always like what Nikki has to say... but dayum, it's hard not to love the guy for saying what he thinks and just laying it out there. That's the thing I noticed in "Rush"... I kinda wanted to hate the guy, but just couldn't. That kind of honesty and non-PC talk is near and dear to my heart.


I would say fuck Nikki lauda for spitting in the soup he grew up on in the past...
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 6:02:26 PM EDT
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A step in the right direction....maybe, but proper content/coverage will have to wait until after Bernie steps down.



http://grandprix247.com/2014/04/10/ecclestone-says-paid-formula-1-app-to-be-released-in-june/

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I actually like that a guy has the balls and honesty to piss on a company that he used to work for (when they've got it coming). Loyalty should rarely trump honesty.  
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A step in the right direction....maybe, but proper content/coverage will have to wait until after Bernie steps down.



http://grandprix247.com/2014/04/10/ecclestone-says-paid-formula-1-app-to-be-released-in-june/

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My worry would be that it steps on NBC's ability to broadcast online here in the US. Many people wouldn't watch if they couldn't watch it online and I want US viewers to grow.
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I actually like that a guy has the balls and honesty to piss on a company that he used to work for (when they've got it coming). Loyalty should rarely trump honesty.  
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I would say fuck Nikki lauda for spitting in the soup he grew up on in the past...


I actually like that a guy has the balls and honesty to piss on a company that he used to work for (when they've got it coming). Loyalty should rarely trump honesty.  


What exactly did Ferrari to Nikki Lauda to deserve his contempt ?

I mean,  what's the point of shooting at an ambulance ? (An ambulance that helped you in the past)
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What exactly did Ferrari to Nikki Lauda to deserve his contempt ?

I mean,  what's the point of shooting at an ambulance ? (An ambulance that helped you in the past)
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I would say fuck Nikki lauda for spitting in the soup he grew up on in the past...


I actually like that a guy has the balls and honesty to piss on a company that he used to work for (when they've got it coming). Loyalty should rarely trump honesty.  


What exactly did Ferrari to Nikki Lauda to deserve his contempt ?

I mean,  what's the point of shooting at an ambulance ? (An ambulance that helped you in the past)


I believe that Nikki is the kind of guy to hold contempt for an organization that SHOULD be excellent, and instead is incompetent. And I don't blame him.

I feel the same way about "my" Denver Broncos NFL team. Will always love them... but I often snort in contempt at their foibles, short-comings, and failures.

Oh... and btw... I'd rather have the Mercedes ambulance come and get me right now than the Ferrari ambulance.
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I believe that Nikki is the kind of guy to hold contempt for an organization that SHOULD be excellent, and instead is incompetent. And I don't blame him.

I feel the same way about "my" Denver Broncos NFL team. Will always love them... but I often snort in contempt at their foibles, short-comings, and failures.

Oh... and btw... I'd rather have the Mercedes ambulance come and get me right now than the Ferrari ambulance.
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I would say fuck Nikki lauda for spitting in the soup he grew up on in the past...


I actually like that a guy has the balls and honesty to piss on a company that he used to work for (when they've got it coming). Loyalty should rarely trump honesty.  


What exactly did Ferrari to Nikki Lauda to deserve his contempt ?

I mean,  what's the point of shooting at an ambulance ? (An ambulance that helped you in the past)


I believe that Nikki is the kind of guy to hold contempt for an organization that SHOULD be excellent, and instead is incompetent. And I don't blame him.

I feel the same way about "my" Denver Broncos NFL team. Will always love them... but I often snort in contempt at their foibles, short-comings, and failures.

Oh... and btw... I'd rather have the Mercedes ambulance come and get me right now than the Ferrari ambulance.


When the Mercedes ambulance will be long forgotten, the Ferrari ambulance will still be there taking care of you
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I would say fuck Nikki lauda for spitting in the soup he grew up on in the past...





I actually like that a guy has the balls and honesty to piss on a company that he used to work for (when they've got it coming). Loyalty should rarely trump honesty.  





What exactly did Ferrari to Nikki Lauda to deserve his contempt ?



I mean,  what's the point of shooting at an ambulance ? (An ambulance that helped you in the past)




I believe that Nikki is the kind of guy to hold contempt for an organization that SHOULD be excellent, and instead is incompetent. And I don't blame him.



I feel the same way about "my" Denver Broncos NFL team. Will always love them... but I often snort in contempt at their foibles, short-comings, and failures.



Oh... and btw... I'd rather have the Mercedes ambulance come and get me right now than the Ferrari ambulance.




When the Mercedes ambulance will be long forgotten, the Ferrari ambulance will still be there taking care of you
sure... if you want an ambulance that is slow, ungainly, and emergency lights and sirens dont work.  heaven help you if you criticize it to get that fixed though.



italy is about passion and flamboyance... not so much engineering and precision..



 
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italy is about passion and flamboyance... not so much engineering and precision..
 
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History had proven you wrong many times in the past.

For the future, I'm not so confident
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Well, I'm certainly seeing glimpses of it from RBR lately. But part of the reason I became a big fan of RBR several years ago is that here was this "upstart" energy drink company, taking it to the red dynasty and making them look "not the best" anymore. I loved that. I've nearly always rooted for the underdog. Which is why I'm hoping that Williams and Force India can keep taking it to some of the big names (even RBR). I wouldn't mind seeing Caterham and Lotus get their acts together this year either. But I won't hold my breath on that.

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You have to understand though, R_B, that arrogance is as much a part of the institution as the prancing horse.  Enzo was one of the most arrogant people ever to walk this earth.  When they had people that weren't arrogant, but cold, calculating, and the best in the business (Brawn, and Schumacher to be specific, Niki Lauda is also a good example of this, Kimi also, but he's got a mountain of shit to climb to make it to the top again) they won.   If they can find someone to LEAD the team that isn't Italian and isn't interested in the Ferrari legacy, they will win again.

 




Well, I'm certainly seeing glimpses of it from RBR lately. But part of the reason I became a big fan of RBR several years ago is that here was this "upstart" energy drink company, taking it to the red dynasty and making them look "not the best" anymore. I loved that. I've nearly always rooted for the underdog. Which is why I'm hoping that Williams and Force India can keep taking it to some of the big names (even RBR). I wouldn't mind seeing Caterham and Lotus get their acts together this year either. But I won't hold my breath on that.



Renault powered teams are all kidding themselves if they thing they are going to come anywhere close to being competitive, considering the overheat problems most of them are having along with the five engine limit.  I foresee a lot of grid penalties at the end of the year when they start running out.  Merc definitely won this round, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a different manufacturer powering RBR next year.  It honestly wouldn't surprise me much to see Renault leave F1 if they can't figure out the issues.



Ferrari? I just feel sorry for them, the most expensive driver line-up on the grid, and they are, at best, competing with mid-field drivers.  



 
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Renault powered teams are all kidding themselves if they thing they are going to come anywhere close to being competitive, considering the overheat problems most of them are having along with the five engine limit.  I foresee a lot of grid penalties at the end of the year when they start running out.  Merc definitely won this round, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a different manufacturer powering RBR next year.  It honestly wouldn't surprise me much to see Renault leave F1 if they can't figure out the issues.

Ferrari? I just feel sorry for them, the most expensive driver line-up on the grid, and they are, at best, competing with mid-field drivers.  
 
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You have to understand though, R_B, that arrogance is as much a part of the institution as the prancing horse.  Enzo was one of the most arrogant people ever to walk this earth.  When they had people that weren't arrogant, but cold, calculating, and the best in the business (Brawn, and Schumacher to be specific, Niki Lauda is also a good example of this, Kimi also, but he's got a mountain of shit to climb to make it to the top again) they won.   If they can find someone to LEAD the team that isn't Italian and isn't interested in the Ferrari legacy, they will win again.
 


Well, I'm certainly seeing glimpses of it from RBR lately. But part of the reason I became a big fan of RBR several years ago is that here was this "upstart" energy drink company, taking it to the red dynasty and making them look "not the best" anymore. I loved that. I've nearly always rooted for the underdog. Which is why I'm hoping that Williams and Force India can keep taking it to some of the big names (even RBR). I wouldn't mind seeing Caterham and Lotus get their acts together this year either. But I won't hold my breath on that.

Renault powered teams are all kidding themselves if they thing they are going to come anywhere close to being competitive, considering the overheat problems most of them are having along with the five engine limit.  I foresee a lot of grid penalties at the end of the year when they start running out.  Merc definitely won this round, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a different manufacturer powering RBR next year.  It honestly wouldn't surprise me much to see Renault leave F1 if they can't figure out the issues.

Ferrari? I just feel sorry for them, the most expensive driver line-up on the grid, and they are, at best, competing with mid-field drivers.  
 


The Ferrari's power units lack at least 80-100 horsepower... It is sad because the engine was their only strongpoint in past seasons... And now that it really counts.....

But hey. They took Marmorini as their head motorist... He did so well with Toyota billions of $ .......
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Renault powered teams are all kidding themselves if they thing they are going to come anywhere close to being competitive, considering the overheat problems most of them are having along with the five engine limit.  I foresee a lot of grid penalties at the end of the year when they start running out.  Merc definitely won this round, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a different manufacturer powering RBR next year.  It honestly wouldn't surprise me much to see Renault leave F1 if they can't figure out the issues.

Ferrari? I just feel sorry for them, the most expensive driver line-up on the grid, and they are, at best, competing with mid-field drivers.  
 
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I've been thinking the same thing all season. Screw Renault!
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Burbanite, is this something you have been working on? It's a good looking car and if so, I will be cheering for y'all. Also, do you guys ever do any testing at TRC here in Ohio?
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Yep, that's going to be one of my future responsibilities in terms of supporting it at the track. My primary function at HPD started as the chassis support engineer for the ARX line of cars, I then evolved into doing engine support so these days I perform a dual function. The ARX-04b is a very big step into the future in that it is derived from the stillborn P1 project and that technology transferred to the P2 car directly. I'll be heading off to the UK later this year to help put the first one together once the design phase is over and the first parts come out of production.

HPD don't have a large presence at TRC but the larger Honda group have used their services.
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My worry would be that it steps on NBC's ability to broadcast online here in the US. Many people wouldn't watch if they couldn't watch it online and I want US viewers to grow.
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A step in the right direction....maybe, but proper content/coverage will have to wait until after Bernie steps down.



http://grandprix247.com/2014/04/10/ecclestone-says-paid-formula-1-app-to-be-released-in-june/




My worry would be that it steps on NBC's ability to broadcast online here in the US. Many people wouldn't watch if they couldn't watch it online and I want US viewers to grow.


There is sooooo much more that can be done online beyond NBC's limited efforts that would grow the sport and not step on their rights to qualifying/race broadcasts.

(The online VOD model actually fits the nature of F1 better than TV. Who the hell would want to advertise during F1 when the majority of views come from a DVR with the ability to skip all of the ads.)

TV rights made Bernie a billionaire, but the world has changed. High sponsorship costs and low online presence is not a formula for a successful operation going forward.  


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Renault powered teams are all kidding themselves if they thing they are going to come anywhere close to being competitive, considering the overheat problems most of them are having along with the five engine limit.  I foresee a lot of grid penalties at the end of the year when they start running out.  Merc definitely won this round, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a different manufacturer powering RBR next year.  It honestly wouldn't surprise me much to see Renault leave F1 if they can't figure out the issues.

Ferrari? I just feel sorry for them, the most expensive driver line-up on the grid, and they are, at best, competing with mid-field drivers.  
 
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I'm not certain but I think there's a window at the beginning of next season to rehomolgate a revised Power Unit, so Reanult and Ferrari can copy the Split Turbo.

And even if there isn't a window now, I can see the FIA making an exception, considering the unfair advantage that would give Honda.

They did something similar early in the V8 era, allowing Renault to make a bunch of changes under the guise of 'reliability'.
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Yep, that's going to be one of my future responsibilities in terms of supporting it at the track. My primary function at HPD started as the chassis support engineer for the ARX line of cars, I then evolved into doing engine support so these days I perform a dual function. The ARX-04b is a very big step into the future in that it is derived from the stillborn P1 project and that technology transferred to the P2 car directly. I'll be heading off to the UK later this year to help put the first one together once the design phase is over and the first parts come out of production.

HPD don't have a large presence at TRC but the larger Honda group have used their services.
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Yep, that's going to be one of my future responsibilities in terms of supporting it at the track. My primary function at HPD started as the chassis support engineer for the ARX line of cars, I then evolved into doing engine support so these days I perform a dual function. The ARX-04b is a very big step into the future in that it is derived from the stillborn P1 project and that technology transferred to the P2 car directly. I'll be heading off to the UK later this year to help put the first one together once the design phase is over and the first parts come out of production.

HPD don't have a large presence at TRC but the larger Honda group have used their services.

Cool, is that going to be at Daytona next January?


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There is sooooo much more that can be done online beyond NBC's limited efforts that would grow the sport and not step on their rights to qualifying/race broadcasts.

(The online VOD model actually fits the nature of F1 better than TV. Who the hell would want to advertise during F1 when the majority of views come from a DVR with the ability to skip all of the ads.)

TV rights made Bernie a billionaire, but the world has changed. High sponsorship costs and low online presence is not a formula for a successful operation going forward.  

NBC has done a poor job with F1, but still much better than Fox is doing with USCC. I like their personalities but I wish they would do more during the pre race show, maybe have driver interviews every now & then. Sky F1 coverage is a good example. I also get tired of coming back from commercial to hear about everything I missed. I normally stream the race on my laptop so I can keep watching during NBC's commercials.
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NBC has done a poor job with F1, but still much better than Fox is doing with USCC. I like their personalities but I wish they would do more during the pre race show, maybe have driver interviews every now & then. Sky F1 coverage is a good example. I also get tired of coming back from commercial to hear about everything I missed. I normally stream the race on my laptop so I can keep watching during NBC's commercials.
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Burbanite, is this something you have been working on? It's a good looking car and if so, I will be cheering for y'all. Also, do you guys ever do any testing at TRC here in Ohio?


Yep, that's going to be one of my future responsibilities in terms of supporting it at the track. My primary function at HPD started as the chassis support engineer for the ARX line of cars, I then evolved into doing engine support so these days I perform a dual function. The ARX-04b is a very big step into the future in that it is derived from the stillborn P1 project and that technology transferred to the P2 car directly. I'll be heading off to the UK later this year to help put the first one together once the design phase is over and the first parts come out of production.

HPD don't have a large presence at TRC but the larger Honda group have used their services.

Cool, is that going to be at Daytona next January?


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There is sooooo much more that can be done online beyond NBC's limited efforts that would grow the sport and not step on their rights to qualifying/race broadcasts.

(The online VOD model actually fits the nature of F1 better than TV. Who the hell would want to advertise during F1 when the majority of views come from a DVR with the ability to skip all of the ads.)

TV rights made Bernie a billionaire, but the world has changed. High sponsorship costs and low online presence is not a formula for a successful operation going forward.  

NBC has done a poor job with F1, but still much better than Fox is doing with USCC. I like their personalities but I wish they would do more during the pre race show, maybe have driver interviews every now & then. Sky F1 coverage is a good example. I also get tired of coming back from commercial to hear about everything I missed. I normally stream the race on my laptop so I can keep watching during NBC's commercials.



If your looking for a USA based TV channel that will give you as good of coverage as SKY, forget it. It ain't happening.  F1 is like Nascar in GB, hence why they spend big $$ on SKY's broadcast.  F1 is no where near as popular here in the US, and your only gonna get whatever money that NBC, or whoever will put into it.  Honestly NBC does a good job with what budget they get, consider yourself lucky you get F1 coverage here in the US, and that it's live.
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Haas gets F1 license





Haas confirmed that he had received his team license to be on the F1
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Alexander Rossi and Ryan Hunter-Reay as drivers maybe?
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Cool, is that going to be at Daytona next January?



NBC has done a poor job with F1, but still much better than Fox is doing with USCC. I like their personalities but I wish they would do more during the pre race show, maybe have driver interviews every now & then. Sky F1 coverage is a good example. I also get tired of coming back from commercial to hear about everything I missed. I normally stream the race on my laptop so I can keep watching during NBC's commercials.
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Burbanite, is this something you have been working on? It's a good looking car and if so, I will be cheering for y'all. Also, do you guys ever do any testing at TRC here in Ohio?


Yep, that's going to be one of my future responsibilities in terms of supporting it at the track. My primary function at HPD started as the chassis support engineer for the ARX line of cars, I then evolved into doing engine support so these days I perform a dual function. The ARX-04b is a very big step into the future in that it is derived from the stillborn P1 project and that technology transferred to the P2 car directly. I'll be heading off to the UK later this year to help put the first one together once the design phase is over and the first parts come out of production.

HPD don't have a large presence at TRC but the larger Honda group have used their services.

Cool, is that going to be at Daytona next January?


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There is sooooo much more that can be done online beyond NBC's limited efforts that would grow the sport and not step on their rights to qualifying/race broadcasts.

(The online VOD model actually fits the nature of F1 better than TV. Who the hell would want to advertise during F1 when the majority of views come from a DVR with the ability to skip all of the ads.)

TV rights made Bernie a billionaire, but the world has changed. High sponsorship costs and low online presence is not a formula for a successful operation going forward.  

NBC has done a poor job with F1, but still much better than Fox is doing with USCC. I like their personalities but I wish they would do more during the pre race show, maybe have driver interviews every now & then. Sky F1 coverage is a good example. I also get tired of coming back from commercial to hear about everything I missed. I normally stream the race on my laptop so I can keep watching during NBC's commercials.


I haven't watched much pre-race coverage on NBC, but I have noticed that they don't show Will Buxton (only audio) during the complete race coverage.

Have I just missed all of his screen time or did they do away with the NBC camera at the race?
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I've noticed that when they interview retired drivers. It annoys me that there isn't a picture in picture of the interview but maybe I'm picky.
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Alexander Rossi and Ryan Hunter-Reay as drivers maybe?
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Alexander Rossi and Ryan Hunter-Reay as drivers maybe?


Nothing against those guys (Rossi should be a shoo-in), but my first thought was:

"I hope they don't compromise success in the name of patriotism".
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Alexander Rossi and Ryan Hunter-Reay as drivers maybe?


I mis-read that as Velentino Rossi and thought, hell yeah, that would be awesome!



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Nothing against those guys (Rossi should be a shoo-in), but my first thought was:

"I hope they don't compromise success in the name of patriotism".
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Alexander Rossi and Ryan Hunter-Reay as drivers maybe?


Nothing against those guys (Rossi should be a shoo-in), but my first thought was:

"I hope they don't compromise success in the name of patriotism".

Well American drivers would bring more potential American viewers. And more American viewers would bring more Americans sponsors and $$$. So it wouldn't necessarily be a compromise, it could help.

Also, a Coca-Cola sponsored American F1 car would be pretty bad ass.
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I haven't watched much pre-race coverage on NBC, but I have noticed that they don't show Will Buxton (only audio) during the complete race coverage.

Have I just missed all of his screen time or did they do away with the NBC camera at the race?
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Burbanite, is this something you have been working on? It's a good looking car and if so, I will be cheering for y'all. Also, do you guys ever do any testing at TRC here in Ohio?


Yep, that's going to be one of my future responsibilities in terms of supporting it at the track. My primary function at HPD started as the chassis support engineer for the ARX line of cars, I then evolved into doing engine support so these days I perform a dual function. The ARX-04b is a very big step into the future in that it is derived from the stillborn P1 project and that technology transferred to the P2 car directly. I'll be heading off to the UK later this year to help put the first one together once the design phase is over and the first parts come out of production.

HPD don't have a large presence at TRC but the larger Honda group have used their services.

Cool, is that going to be at Daytona next January?


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There is sooooo much more that can be done online beyond NBC's limited efforts that would grow the sport and not step on their rights to qualifying/race broadcasts.

(The online VOD model actually fits the nature of F1 better than TV. Who the hell would want to advertise during F1 when the majority of views come from a DVR with the ability to skip all of the ads.)

TV rights made Bernie a billionaire, but the world has changed. High sponsorship costs and low online presence is not a formula for a successful operation going forward.  

NBC has done a poor job with F1, but still much better than Fox is doing with USCC. I like their personalities but I wish they would do more during the pre race show, maybe have driver interviews every now & then. Sky F1 coverage is a good example. I also get tired of coming back from commercial to hear about everything I missed. I normally stream the race on my laptop so I can keep watching during NBC's commercials.


I haven't watched much pre-race coverage on NBC, but I have noticed that they don't show Will Buxton (only audio) during the complete race coverage.

Have I just missed all of his screen time or did they do away with the NBC camera at the race?

They do show Will on the grid before the race, some races more than others, and he does some interviews as well, just varies.

Also, the reason they don't cut away during a race to Will, has something to do with their license to use the world feed from Bernie.  They are licensed to show the world feed during the race only, no other pictures.  Now before the green, and after the checkered flag it's a different story.  I heard this a few years back while they were on SPEED.  It's wonky, but who knows it's up to Bernie
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That is the plan, just need someone to buy one or two...  Actually, that is something we are working on this weekend, we have lots of interest, so much so that we may run out of cars before we run out of teams...

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Oh boy, here we go.
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 11:59:54 PM EDT
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The return of Juan Paublo to formula 1?
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That is the plan, just need someone to buy one or two...  Actually, that is something we are working on this weekend, we have lots of interest, so much so that we may run out of cars before we run out of teams...
Oh boy, here we go.

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That is the plan, just need someone to buy one or two...  Actually, that is something we are working on this weekend, we have lots of interest, so much so that we may run out of cars before we run out of teams...




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Oh boy, here we go.

Just what I was thinking. I'll believe it when I see a car on the grid.



 
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The talk on engine noise now seems to be going in the direction of "noise amplification".

If we end up with whistle tips or some sort of woodwind reed on the exhaust..........

Maybe they can add one of these to appease the whining.

Link Posted: 4/12/2014 9:06:10 AM EDT
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It passes me off to no end that F1 will only be carried by NBC Sports. (which I don't get) Where can I view online?
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The talk on engine noise now seems to be going in the direction of "noise amplification".

If we end up with whistle tips or some sort of woodwind reed on the exhaust..........

Maybe they can add one of these to appease the whining.

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Y'ALL SAY WHISTLE TIPS?


Link Posted: 4/13/2014 4:42:07 PM EDT
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Anyone else getting ready to watch the IndyCar race at Long Beach?
Link Posted: 4/13/2014 6:25:33 PM EDT
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I'm at work so I didn't get to watch it , but I am checking out the F1 news for the final decision on the RBR/Ricardo fuel flow incident.  

I'm not a RBR fan, but I hope the FIA reinstates Ricardo's points, and slaps Newey's pee pee.
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Shung is probably screaming from a mountaintop right now.
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The article on Live F1 said they're bringing over the guy who's in charge of North American operations to take over the team. He has no race experience.



Here's a blurb from BBC Sport, "Mattiacci, who is the current president of Ferrari North America, will
take over for the next F1 race, which is the Chinese Grand Prix on 20
April." Nothing on his experience though.


 
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While it's a step in the right direction, it won't make them go any faster... and the guy coming in has no experience to speak of.  I just feel sorry for them this year, especially the drivers.



I wonder if the red phone at Ross Brawn's house is ringing.



 
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While it's a step in the right direction, it won't make them go any faster... and the guy coming in has no experience to speak of.  I just feel sorry for them this year, especially the drivers.

I wonder if the red phone at Ross Brawn's house is ringing.
 
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Shung is probably screaming from a mountaintop right now.

While it's a step in the right direction, it won't make them go any faster... and the guy coming in has no experience to speak of.  I just feel sorry for them this year, especially the drivers.

I wonder if the red phone at Ross Brawn's house is ringing.
 


They have probably hired ex-SEALS to kidnap Brawn and bring him to Maranello.
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