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Posted: 11/21/2014 9:50:46 AM EDT
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FP2 standings with everyone switching to long run setup
# Driver Ctry Team Time Gap Laps 1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:42.113 14 2 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:42.196 0.083 15 3 Kevin Magnussen McLaren 1:42.895 0.782 15 4 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:42.959 0.846 11 5 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1:43.183 1.070 9 |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 3:52:18 PM EDT
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I think I can hear Shung crying all the way over in Switzerland. 
It's nice to see Seb in good spirits too, that press-conference video has been getting a lot of play. Now I have to order a Ferrari hat for next year. 
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I think I can hear Shung crying all the way over in Switzerland.
It's nice to see Seb in good spirits too, that press-conference video has been getting a lot of play. Now I have to order a Ferrari hat for next year.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 5:24:10 PM EDT
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I think I can hear Shung crying all the way over in Switzerland.
It's nice to see Seb in good spirits too, that press-conference video has been getting a lot of play. Now I have to order a Ferrari hat for next year.
http://i.imgur.com/rptZNu3.jpg 
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Posted: 11/21/2014 5:33:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2014 5:57:55 PM EDT
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Never going to happen. The turbo hybrid is attracting manufacturers. Here is my conspiracy theory about what is going on and how it will play out over the next few years. The Haas partnership with Ferrari set the ball rolling. On the surface, it completely changes the barriers to entry if a new team is able to pair up with a big team and act as a junior with both technical and material support. This in itself puts the smaller, established, independent teams at a disadvantage. But what is really going on is a complete change in the structure of how engine manufacturers (the big money) compete against each other. From 2016 on, it will be factory and a junior paired up sharing engines and data to a degree we have never seen. Haas and Ferrari were the first to tip their hands. Honda is going solo in 2015 for the same reason. Ferrari - Haas Red Bull (Audi) - Torro Rosso (Lamborghini branded Audi) Mercedes - Williams McLaren (Honda) - (?)....probably Force India (as they have gone quiet recently concerning the issues and have a history of collaboration with McLaren) Which leaves out Sauber and Lotus, who have also been making the most noise to change the payout structure (their only hope of surviving as truly independent teams) (Should also add that Renault will be done after 2015. The game changed and they won't be willing to make the leap.) The stage is set for a no holds barred throw-down in 2016. Mercedes blocks the engine freeze until a partial is accepted in July 2015. Post 2015, they get overruled by all of the other engine suppliers and the gloves come off for an engine war. (This was mentioned by Horner last weekend) 16 cars fulfills all of the contractual obligations, but I'm betting the "junior" teams will probably get 3 cars if the independents fall out. Crazy nonsense? Maybe....but I bet I am close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mercedes-AMG Petronas chairman and F1 champ Niki Lauda told Global Motorsport Media that, "If V-8 comes back, Mercedes will be gone.” Lauda was referencing the ever-clearer possibility that F1 rules may write off the complex 1.6-liter turbo V-6 engines and electric motors that the FIA mandated for the 2014 season. F1 CEO Bernie Ecclestone said last week that "we need to change the regulations” and would "try to get rid of these (V-6) engines.”  Never going to happen. The turbo hybrid is attracting manufacturers. Here is my conspiracy theory about what is going on and how it will play out over the next few years. The Haas partnership with Ferrari set the ball rolling. On the surface, it completely changes the barriers to entry if a new team is able to pair up with a big team and act as a junior with both technical and material support. This in itself puts the smaller, established, independent teams at a disadvantage. But what is really going on is a complete change in the structure of how engine manufacturers (the big money) compete against each other. From 2016 on, it will be factory and a junior paired up sharing engines and data to a degree we have never seen. Haas and Ferrari were the first to tip their hands. Honda is going solo in 2015 for the same reason. Ferrari - Haas Red Bull (Audi) - Torro Rosso (Lamborghini branded Audi) Mercedes - Williams McLaren (Honda) - (?)....probably Force India (as they have gone quiet recently concerning the issues and have a history of collaboration with McLaren) Which leaves out Sauber and Lotus, who have also been making the most noise to change the payout structure (their only hope of surviving as truly independent teams) (Should also add that Renault will be done after 2015. The game changed and they won't be willing to make the leap.) The stage is set for a no holds barred throw-down in 2016. Mercedes blocks the engine freeze until a partial is accepted in July 2015. Post 2015, they get overruled by all of the other engine suppliers and the gloves come off for an engine war. (This was mentioned by Horner last weekend) 16 cars fulfills all of the contractual obligations, but I'm betting the "junior" teams will probably get 3 cars if the independents fall out. Crazy nonsense? Maybe....but I bet I am close. that is an interesting take on things Do you think that AUDI will really join F1. It would be interesting to see. They sure know how to build good engines. I do look forward to the last race but more so as to what will happen in the off season and the 1st Track Tests next year. and I hope that Rosberg will be Champion 
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Posted: 11/21/2014 6:00:17 PM EDT
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Bernie Saying Stupid Things Again Formula 1 should not be chasing a younger generation of fans as they are the wrong target for the sport's sponsors, claims F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone.
After a year when F1 has been asking itself why television audiences are in decline, Ecclestone has suggested that a push to embrace a younger fanbase via social media would be wasted. "I'd rather get to the 70-year-old guy who's got plenty of cash. So, there's no point trying to reach these kids because they won't buy any of the products here and if marketers are aiming at this audience, then maybe they should advertise with Disney." those sure where some retarded comments. I started to watch F1 when I was about 14 years old (that is a long time ago) but loved it and I just do not understand his comments. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 8:28:07 PM EDT
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that is an interesting take on things Do you think that AUDI will really join F1. It would be interesting to see. They sure know how to build good engines. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never going to happen. The turbo hybrid is attracting manufacturers. Here is my conspiracy theory about what is going on and how it will play out over the next few years. The Haas partnership with Ferrari set the ball rolling. On the surface, it completely changes the barriers to entry if a new team is able to pair up with a big team and act as a junior with both technical and material support. This in itself puts the smaller, established, independent teams at a disadvantage. But what is really going on is a complete change in the structure of how engine manufacturers (the big money) compete against each other. From 2016 on, it will be factory and a junior paired up sharing engines and data to a degree we have never seen. Haas and Ferrari were the first to tip their hands. Honda is going solo in 2015 for the same reason. Ferrari - Haas Red Bull (Audi) - Torro Rosso (Lamborghini branded Audi) Mercedes - Williams McLaren (Honda) - (?)....probably Force India (as they have gone quiet recently concerning the issues and have a history of collaboration with McLaren) Which leaves out Sauber and Lotus, who have also been making the most noise to change the payout structure (their only hope of surviving as truly independent teams) (Should also add that Renault will be done after 2015. The game changed and they won't be willing to make the leap.) The stage is set for a no holds barred throw-down in 2016. Mercedes blocks the engine freeze until a partial is accepted in July 2015. Post 2015, they get overruled by all of the other engine suppliers and the gloves come off for an engine war. (This was mentioned by Horner last weekend) 16 cars fulfills all of the contractual obligations, but I'm betting the "junior" teams will probably get 3 cars if the independents fall out. Crazy nonsense? Maybe....but I bet I am close. that is an interesting take on things Do you think that AUDI will really join F1. It would be interesting to see. They sure know how to build good engines. There was an article I saw through Twitter last week that had 30+ different reasons or evidence of Audi moving to F1. It basically centered around the fact that they will have to invest F1 levels of money to replace the R18 for 2016 and the mantle of endurance racing is being passed to Porsche. There were a ton of other examples that went into stuff like new billing codes within Audi, etc. Really interesting, I'll try to find it. ETA: From Jalopnik (of all places)... I'm going to give credit, where credit is due and link the original article from RACER. http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints/item/110547-pruett-inside-the-audi-f1-rumors A billing code for an unnamed Audi Sport engine department exists, yet unlike the WEC, DTM and GT projects, transactions, billing and accounting for that department is kept private—behind a firewall to keep prying eyes from other departments locked out from expenditure details. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 8:53:57 PM EDT
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Has anyone else noticed that Alonso and Vettel are only separated by 2 point? Whoever can beat the other this weekend will most likely take 4th place in the WDC. You know they both want to beat each other, not only being rivals the last four years, but the fact that Vettel is replacing Alonso next year. Will be an interesting sub-plot.
JEV is getting snubbed so bad. He was consistently as fast or faster than Ricciardo, and has been faster than Kvyiat this year. But the rookie is getting promoted and he's losing his job? WTF? |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 9:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone else noticed that Alonso and Vettel are only separated by 2 point? Whoever can beat the other this weekend will most likely take 4th place in the WDC. You know they both want to beat each other, not only being rivals the last four years, but the fact that Vettel is replacing Alonso next year. Will be an interesting sub-plot. JEV is getting snubbed so bad. He was consistently as fast or faster than Ricciardo, and has been faster than Kvyiat this year. But the rookie is getting promoted and he's losing his job? WTF? I'm wondering if Bernie had a hand in this one, since he's evidently Putin's buddy now.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:03:37 AM EDT
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anyone else watching qualifying ?
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:09:01 AM EDT
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anyone else watching qualifying ? Yup! |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:15:14 AM EDT
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anyone else watching qualifying ? Yup! |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:49:33 AM EDT
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No surprises so far.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:52:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No surprises so far. would be nice to see a Williams take the front row. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:57:26 AM EDT
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I love the onboard shot driving through the pit exit tunnel.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 10:01:47 AM EDT
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Rosberg on pole. It'll be a hell of a race tomorrow.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 10:02:27 AM EDT
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shit what happened.
I'm watching this and my satellite just went out. edit: ok it's back |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 10:05:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rosberg on pole. It'll be a hell of a race tomorrow. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 10:10:25 AM EDT
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Maybe massa tomorrow can return the old favor.... making Ham lose the title at first/last corner of the last race
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Posted: 11/22/2014 11:22:10 AM EDT
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Rosberg on pole. It'll be a hell of a race tomorrow. Come on Nico!!!!!! |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 12:54:09 PM EDT
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Hamilton doesn't have the balls to pull a Senna incident.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 1:34:53 PM EDT
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Hamilton doesn't have balls. Fify |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 1:50:58 PM EDT
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Come on Nico!!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rosberg on pole. It'll be a hell of a race tomorrow. Come on Nico!!!!!! Come on Lewis!!!!!! |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 1:54:48 PM EDT
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Both Red Bulls excluded from qualifying.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:09:36 PM EDT
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"Don't worry Nico, I got your back."
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:18:30 PM EDT
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Both Red Bulls excluded from qualifying. On mobile right now, all I can say is check out twitter, RBR is PISSED! |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:38:30 PM EDT
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On mobile right now, all I can say is check out twitter, RBR is PISSED! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Both Red Bulls excluded from qualifying. On mobile right now, all I can say is check out twitter, RBR is PISSED! what happened? |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:40:14 PM EDT
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Time and channel for tomorrow?
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:44:01 PM EDT
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Both Red Bulls excluded from qualifying. On mobile right now, all I can say is check out twitter, RBR is PISSED! what happened? "We are disappointed that we have been singled out for a front wing deflection test when it is clear that other teams are interpreting the rules in a similar fashion." ETA: The lap long front wing shot from the Williams (in FP2) was pretty amazing. A few years ago you could kind of see the movement.....now, all of the elements compress until they stall. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:49:55 PM EDT
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If Lewis wins the championship tomorrow, it will be a victory for a British driver in a British car with a British engine
God Save the Queen 
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Posted: 11/22/2014 4:17:46 PM EDT
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If Lewis wins the championship tomorrow, it will be a victory for a British driver in a British car with a British engine
God Save the Queen With a German sponsor!!!
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Posted: 11/22/2014 4:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe massa tomorrow can return the old favor.... making Ham lose the title at first/last corner of the last race |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:37:00 PM EDT
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If Lewis wins the championship tomorrow, it will be a victory for a British driver in a British car with a British engine
God Save the Queen Paid for with German Euros.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 5:52:23 PM EDT
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Time and channel for tomorrow? BBC1 old chap, about 5PM
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Posted: 11/22/2014 8:54:58 PM EDT
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BBC1 old chap, about 5PM Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Time and channel for tomorrow? BBC1 old chap, about 5PM har char ch-char 
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:29:47 PM EDT
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NBCSN 7am pre race, 8am race start
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Posted: 11/22/2014 11:59:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:03:47 AM EDT
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Kimi cracks me up, just look at him.
Alonso: "Kimi your harness is not on." Kimi: "I dont care!" 
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Posted: 11/23/2014 1:25:19 AM EDT
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At a buddy's house this tonight and he has a new cable and internet provider, a fact i did not know.
No NBCSN and terrible internet. I may be able to stream on 4g but it's not looking good. I may not be able to see the race until tomorrow night! Not happy. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 2:08:31 AM EDT
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At a buddy's house this tonight and he has a new cable and internet provider, a fact i did not know. No NBCSN and terrible internet. I may be able to stream on 4g but it's not looking good. I may not be able to see the race until tomorrow night! Not happy. I've got to work tomorrow. Not happy either.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 4:24:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2014 8:37:42 AM EDT
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Go Nico!
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Posted: 11/23/2014 8:51:24 AM EDT
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Have a stable stream at the moment, we'll see how it goes.
Best of luck to Lewis! |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 8:52:14 AM EDT
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Have a stable stream at the moment, we'll see how it goes. Best of luck to Lewis! 8 mins to go Come on Lewis |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 8:56:17 AM EDT
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At a buddy's house this tonight and he has a new cable and internet provider, a fact i did not know. No NBCSN and terrible internet. I may be able to stream on 4g but it's not looking good. I may not be able to see the race until tomorrow night! Not happy. 
Don't read the thread!!! |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 8:57:46 AM EDT
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Have a stable stream at the moment, we'll see how it goes. Best of luck to Lewis! 8 mins to go Come on Lewis You Brits sure do spell Nico funny. 
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:02:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:03:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have a stable stream at the moment, we'll see how it goes. Best of luck to Lewis! |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:03:46 AM EDT
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Here we go.....
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:04:02 AM EDT
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Yesssssssss
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