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Link Posted: 3/14/2014 5:34:53 PM EDT
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The sound when on-board:

I have never heard such a pitiful, flatulent, non-race car- like sound coming from an F1 vehicle.
I really do hope it does sound better in person.
I understand that these power plants are an engineering marvel and the way of the future, but Lawd help Me, I think an F1 car should make One's ears bleed due to excessive RPM's.





The (Sad) Ol' Crew Chief

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ugh, I was so looking forward to this season, but by the end of practice last night , I think I actually caught the depressions.....
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 7:04:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/14/2014 7:11:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/14/2014 7:28:45 PM EDT
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Y'all really aren't going to like this...

Link Posted: 3/14/2014 7:31:38 PM EDT
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Y'all really aren't going to like this...



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A damn shame.



 
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:04:05 PM EDT
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Wow seconds slower
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:11:25 PM EDT
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I'm not willing to give up on the new cars yet.  It's still brand-new tech and engineering.  Plunging deep into the unknown with millions of dollars on the line is going to be a gradual process.

I don't think any of the teams have enough data to really make the most of the huge increases in electrical power and torque yet.  And everyone is still scared to death of running out of fuel or blowing up 20% of the engines for the whole season.    

By mid-season, if the cars are still slow, I'll jump right on the bandwagon and bitch about the new regs with all of you.  
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:13:03 PM EDT
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I'm not willing to give up on the new cars yet.  It's still brand-new tech and engineering.  Plunging deep into the unknown with millions of dollars on the line is going to be a gradual process.



I don't think any of the teams have enough data to really make the most of the huge increases in electrical power and torque yet.  And everyone is still scared to death of running out of fuel or blowing up 20% of the engines for the whole season.    



By mid-season, if the cars are still slow, I'll jump right on the bandwagon and bitch about the new regs with all of you.  
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they still sound like shit.



 
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:23:21 PM EDT
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Man, it's gonna be a shitty weekend for many teams


as long as vettel is one of them
 
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Grosjean has gearbox/power steering issues.

Man, it's gonna be a shitty weekend for many teams


as long as vettel is one of them
 


Yawn...

Vettel had a very good FP2. As much hatred and dismissal as some of you haters show towards him... the kid is a fighter and should never be counted out. I hope he goes on winning for another decade just to see some of you guys meltdown and defect to NASCRAP...
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:33:54 PM EDT
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Wow seconds slower


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Y'all really aren't going to like this...

http://youtu.be/nRRx7DoeA2c

A damn shame.
 



I posted that video just to fan flames. I have no doubt these are just growing pains and in no time the cars will be up to speed. Imagine how people felt in 2005 after watching the 2004 cars!

Bottas didn't exceed 11,500 RPM yesterday!



I'm sure we'll be fine.
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:35:03 PM EDT
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I'm not willing to give up on the new cars yet.  It's still brand-new tech and engineering.  Plunging deep into the unknown with millions of dollars on the line is going to be a gradual process.

I don't think any of the teams have enough data to really make the most of the huge increases in electrical power and torque yet.  And everyone is still scared to death of running out of fuel or blowing up 20% of the engines for the whole season.    

By mid-season, if the cars are still slow, I'll jump right on the bandwagon and bitch about the new regs with all of you.  
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Agreed.

If you watch the Hamilton interview that I posted, it's pretty clear that the lack of pace (in comparison) is due to less down force and harder tires....not the power units. (He even comments that a combination of the turbo PU and last years cars would have been monsters)

Yesterday, Toto Wolff mentioned (in the team principal press conference) that they will be able to equal last years times "in a few races"....which made Christian Horner raise an eyebrow in surprise.

It is still very early days and teams are tiptoeing around scared of the power unit usage restrictions and the subsequent grid penalties.

One thing is for certain. This type of racing (resources management) and this type of "quiet" power plant is top level racing going forward.


Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:44:54 PM EDT
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I posted that video just to fan flames. I have no doubt these are just growing pains and in no time the cars will be up to speed. Imagine how people felt in 2005 after watching the 2004 cars!

Bottas didn't exceed 11,500 RPM yesterday!

http://youtu.be/EWCKjwnHXx0

I'm sure we'll be fine.
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Wow seconds slower


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Y'all really aren't going to like this...

http://youtu.be/nRRx7DoeA2c

A damn shame.
 



I posted that video just to fan flames. I have no doubt these are just growing pains and in no time the cars will be up to speed. Imagine how people felt in 2005 after watching the 2004 cars!

Bottas didn't exceed 11,500 RPM yesterday!

http://youtu.be/EWCKjwnHXx0

I'm sure we'll be fine.


We are kind of all focused on full tilt speed and pace, but the race(s) will be won with efficiency through resources management.

Going to be a lot of "WTF!...I don't understand!" comments this season.
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:46:41 PM EDT
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If they could ditch the stupid rev limits and use as much fuel as they wanted I think these cars could be fucking rockets.
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:53:27 PM EDT
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The overall fuel capacity is fine.  I say they should keep that rule (maybe bump the limit a hair).  What needs to go is the fuel flow limit.  There's no point in revving passed 12k right now since there isn't enough fuel flow.  Sure they would max them out in qualifying by revving up to the full 15k, but there are still rules in place to keep the cars from reaching the power levels of the 80's turbo cars (they have a maximum boost limit).  They should remove the fuel flow limits and the DRS.  Let the drivers decide when they make a pass.  If a driver wants to risk running out of fuel to go for a pass let him make that decision.  Here is a great clip from Lauda commenting on the DRS system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGgPRAXIr3s
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 8:59:48 PM EDT
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If they could ditch the stupid rev limits and use as much fuel as they wanted I think these cars could be fucking rockets.
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This, as well as allowing unlimited amount of drivetrains.



I went to the first race at Austin (which was my first race) two years ago and the thing that impressed me most about the whole affair was the sound and the vibration I felt as the cars went by.  Truly impressive.   Seeing these new cars makes me think experiences like that might be a thing of the past.



The thing that absoultely annoys me the most is that a lot of the formula changes are done under the guise of reducing costs.  I'm no expert but it seems to me that changing the regs like they have been do pretty much the exact opposite.





 
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 9:29:59 PM EDT
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They did a C63 vs V8 Supercar vs Coulthard in an old RBR car just then.  Gave the C63 a handicap then a handicap for the V8 supercar then the RBR.        
 


Pointless but damn fun and damn cool.

Link Posted: 3/14/2014 9:38:03 PM EDT
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My predictions. At least five cars die, Hamilton will be the first blow up. Rosberg, Alonso, Bottas at the finish. Two cars will run out of fuel due to being short fueled. Top ten for Caterham.



New cars sound terrible. MotoGP sounds better than the new weed eater engines. Oh wait, that's insulting to weed eaters.

       
 
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 11:00:47 PM EDT
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FP3 is live
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 11:11:52 PM EDT
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Watching. Anyone can PM for stream if you need it.
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 11:25:49 PM EDT
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No joke, Jules Bianchi has a serious chance at a points finish.
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 11:33:06 PM EDT
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About 2 hours left. Everybody locked in?  Just a heads up.
Link Posted: 3/14/2014 11:44:38 PM EDT
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It pains me to do it, but I put Hamilton in the winners circle.

I don't have any Renault powered cars finishing in the top 10.  I don't see the reliability there. It's sad to see the time difference between Alonso and Kimi.  I suspect that if that trend continues, around Spa, Kimi will "get bored."
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 12:04:52 AM EDT
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I like how the new cars move around and challenge the drivers more. I also like the fact reliability is an unknown for a lot of teams again. I hate the new noses and hate the new engines. I wish they could give the cars a respectable engine at least. Because I don't see them winning over a lot of new fans in the US with these.


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Link Posted: 3/15/2014 12:09:23 AM EDT
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Such a crap shoot on predicting the top 10.

Possibility of rain for qualy, reliability concerns, tire wear,etc.

Even if it doesn't rain, somebody will bin it during qualifying.
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 12:19:05 AM EDT
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I like how the new cars move around and challenge the drivers more. I also like the fact reliability is an unknown for a lot of teams again. I hate the new noses and hate the new engines. I wish they could give the cars a respectable engine at least. Because I don't see them winning over a lot of new fans in the US with these.


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Pretty much a lost cause regardless of the engine. Might help (a bit) if Haas gets involved and brings along Rossi.

Most 'Mericans want live sports in the fat of the day or they don't bother.
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Pretty much a lost cause regardless of the engine. Might help (a bit) if Haas gets involved and brings along Rossi.

Most 'Mericans want live sports in the fat of the day or they don't bother.
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I like how the new cars move around and challenge the drivers more. I also like the fact reliability is an unknown for a lot of teams again. I hate the new noses and hate the new engines. I wish they could give the cars a respectable engine at least. Because I don't see them winning over a lot of new fans in the US with these.


F1 Qualification:
http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131216171525/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/d/d6/Well..._We're_Waiting.png


Pretty much a lost cause regardless of the engine. Might help (a bit) if Haas gets involved and brings along Rossi.

Most 'Mericans want live sports in the fat of the day or they don't bother.

I don't expect it to ever be as popular as football/baseball but there were quite a few people who watched Rush and were impressed by the movie who could potentially become fans. And as we know there are tons of NASCAR fans who might check it out, but now instead of roaring V8s we have pussified eurotrash hybrids. At least that's how it will be seen, not so sure they're wrong.

I want my V8s back.
I want refueling back.
I want tires that last more than 3/4 lap back.
I want cars that don't have phallic objects on them back.

Is that too much to ask?
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 12:31:12 AM EDT
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I want my V10s back.
I want refueling back.
I want tires that last more than 3/4 lap back.
I want cars that don't have phallic objects on them back.

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FIFY
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 12:58:19 AM EDT
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It is now raining in Melbourne.
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 1:09:55 AM EDT
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It is now raining in Melbourne.
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Well now it'll be interesting...
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 1:13:19 AM EDT
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It is now raining in Melbourne.


Well now it'll be interesting...
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Dry now. 50% chance of rain.
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 1:22:54 AM EDT
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F1 has lost its glamor
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We need to stop writing it off before it has even has a chance.
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 1:56:10 AM EDT
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Yawn...



Vettel had a very good FP2. As much hatred and dismissal as some of you haters show towards him... the kid is a fighter and should never be counted out. I hope he goes on winning for another decade just to see some of you guys meltdown and defect to NASCRAP...
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Grosjean has gearbox/power steering issues.



Man, it's gonna be a shitty weekend for many teams





as long as vettel is one of them

 




Yawn...



Vettel had a very good FP2. As much hatred and dismissal as some of you haters show towards him... the kid is a fighter and should never be counted out. I hope he goes on winning for another decade just to see some of you guys meltdown and defect to NASCRAP...
smug bastard



i always watched nascar..  always nice to see washed up f1 drivers get their smug asses handed to them



 
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 1:56:27 AM EDT
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FIA F1 feed is LIVE for Qualifying!
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 1:59:34 AM EDT
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if f1 really wanted them to be efficient, they would take away teh requirement to have camshafts
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ruh roh for vettel..
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GREEN GREEN GREEN!
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:06:29 AM EDT
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SomeonAlonso in the pits with rain coming while sitting in 13th.

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Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:07:47 AM EDT
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Vettel with a kiss on the wall?
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:09:23 AM EDT
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 If he didn't hit it, you couldn't have slipped a piece of paper between that tire and wall.
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:12:07 AM EDT
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Here's the rain!
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as renault teams say "thank you dear lord! thank you!"



 
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:14:42 AM EDT
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as renault teams say "thank you dear lord! thank you!"
 
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Here's the rain!
as renault teams say "thank you dear lord! thank you!"
 


Maldonodo takes his car to the beach. Twice.


Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:16:11 AM EDT
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"new software has made the car [redbull] undriveable"



meanwhile.. i cant help but feel sorry for the black and gold
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:23:48 AM EDT
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End of Q1, Kobyashi makes Q2 with Caterham!


Chilton, BIanchi, Gutierez, Ericsson, Grojean, and Maldoado all fail to make the cut. Maldonado with no time.
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:24:13 AM EDT
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Kobayashi to Q2 as well in his Caterham





deserved repeating



 
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End of Q1, Kobyashi makes Q2 with Caterham!





Chilton, BIanchi, Gutierez, Ericsson, Grojean, and Maldoado all fail to make the cut. Maldonado with no time.
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we call him crastor



 
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:34:56 AM EDT
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Vergne to 4th, Hulk to 3rd
Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:37:27 AM EDT
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1 - Ric
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13 - Vet

Unreal

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Link Posted: 3/15/2014 2:37:39 AM EDT
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Bottas to the top!
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