Hey all. Figure its about time to redo the old post I did many years ago. Where the images got lost into the bin bucket.

So what we are going to do is make a bullet out of a 22Lr case. You are thinking WOW Fat are you high? not at the moment but maybe soon. Ok lets get going and I have lots of pretty pic for the reading is for suckers members.


Ok on the left we have a spent 22 case next is a cup (a case with the rim pressed out) followed by a 65 Gr lead tip and a 60 Gr FMJ



So to roll the rim out you need to use a punch and drawdown die.


Here is the brass going into the the die.


All the way in.


Ok next we need a chunk of lead. So we use a core cutter to shear off a piece thats with in 2 grains of the weight we want.


This is what it looks like out of the cutter.


So we weigh the core and the jacket, and we are close. But since im using a cup base on the final produce I need to shave a bit off and get the core compressed to a universal size.


So we break out the Core sizing die. its a shore die with 3 small ports around the outside of it to bleed off excess lead weight.


Close enough!


Ok next we insert the core into a jacket, both have been washed and dried to remove all swaging lube. light lube is applied to outside of jacket.


this is inserted into the core seating die its sized at .223 in dia. thats .001 under sized. Using a punch that sized to fill the inside completely it squishes the core in place.



here the core is fully seated.


Next we need to form the point, for that we use a point forming die. So we toss the bullet in open end first and press it into the forming die. I like using a cupped base it helps seal better then a flat bases round. To do that we use a cupped punch. Also we get poped out to our final dia of .224.


Here is the punch.


Ogive is starting to form!


Looks good, but the ejection pin is smashing the tip!


So we use a lead tip forming die to clean up the end.


the next few pics are the final thing.



and from start to finish!


and final weight.


At this point your are thinking HOLY SHIT FAT THATS THE NEATEST THING IVE EVER SEEN! How much is it to do this!

ok a 10 lb spool will give ya about 7000 cores. thats 35 bucks
22 cases are free

here is the painful part. to do this with a reloading press its about $900. with what im using a swaging press and die set its about $2k
you are thinking holy crap I can buy a lot of bulk bullets for $2k and you are right. But where swaging shines you can make any weight of bullet and any design you can think of. the FMJ at the first is off the same die sets I just flipped it durning the point forming stage.
final product is usually with in +-.2 grains of weight. and they shoot just as good as factory.

and if you are an owner of a range I take 22lr brass donations.

ETA! ok I forgot a step! After the cases get the crimp rolled out. they need to get cleaned and then thrown into the oven for a self clean cycle to anneal them. Other wise they will fold when point formed. And your wife will love you because the oven will be cleaned all the time!

Tag. Good post...


Now to go buy a reloading press and all the stuff I need


Any adverse effects on a barrel using brass as a jacket material? Just curious.

nope it actually burnished the barrel a bit and i found it dosnt foul as bad.

I was just telling someone about seeing you do this years ago. Weird.

Fucking SWEET!!




You sonofabitch, do you know how much money you just cost me

photo were lost durning a server change, I got a new press so I thought id redo the thread.. And we have been hurting for gun threads lately.

Uh I just put down 6.4 k today on a new press/308 dies and jacket maker kit for copper strip.. So ya I know!

I enjoyed your last old thread on this and this one has even better pics. Thanks!

Where can the dies be purchased?

now can you make me some bullets for my 40?

I'm running low and wasn't to happy with the xtreme plated...

Tagscribed.



Way cool!


 

my stuff is from Corbins.com there is a guy named BT bullet on cast bullets thats making stuff as well as RCE.

I hope you have patience current back log is 2-3 years. but.. some times you get lucky and he has an extra in stock.

Bad ass man

not yet but soon.. but they are not cheap.

Most people don't know what RCBS stands for or the history behind the company.

T

can I call a dupe on my self? and is it a dupe since the pics are broke on the old one?

OST

or Speer. he started his business by this same procedure!

That is awesome.

So that seems like a long ass process...

about 100 bullets an hr thats with switch overs.. Also thats why I use child labor from my subdivision to do it. they work like hell for a few packs of laffy taffy.

Instead of lead, could I fill it with AIDS infected blood?

sure, or plastic foam, airsoft balls, primers, shotgun shot. hell even baco bits!

Could this be done with cheaper equipment? I dont reload so have no idea what can or cant be done or at what price points.

Would it be possible to do all of the above steps with cheap/simple versions of the equipment, but at a much smaller price point?

Very ingenious and timely.    Thanks for sharing.

This is not a tag.

LC

You sir are a wizard! I thought me casting slugs and 00 buck was cool.

yup check out some of BT's Kits. you can pick up an rcbs rock chucker press used for about 50 bucks and BT's sets are more affordable. You wont have the precision but it will craft fine blasting ammo.

Its BTSniper and look here.. $475

Lol

I said screw it and just ordered two, 6000 bulk boxes of Hornady from Wideners.  

How long does it take to make one?  And I don't mean you, fatty, with your McAwesome swagger.  I mean Joe GD with his dinky press.

This.  My old puter died and I lost all of my favorites so this is a very welcomed thread.  FBHO.

Thanks for the repost.

well if you get into really crazy designs like with hollow points and other goofy shit it adds a step (25 an hr but you make crazy bank on them so its cool). on average worst case is about 50 an hr. when im up and rocking i can crank out 250+ an hr. take the iPad out throw on netflix and rock out.

hoping this gets tacked again

Ill get the images moved to the are server. If one of the life members wants to host them here then ill get the links edited.

Have you ever made the .38 / .357 bullets from  .380 ACP cases?   I have much interest in that... seems like a cool use of pickup brass....

nope have not tried it. ive mainly made .224 and 6mm since thats what ive been shooting the most of. but it basically worked the same way.

here is the new press.. pressure and speed are fully adjustable..

I think you mean BT Sniper :-)   I've been drooling over his stuff since the other thread earlier...  Just don't have extra cash right now.



 

That is beautiful.
 

tag
 

Don't they sell solid brass bullets for certain hunting applications?

What's max pressure required for any given process step?



I'm envisioning a line of assembly stations running on house air, given acceptable pressure generated pneumatically.  I suppose, given tight enough tolerances on machine parts it could easily be automated.

Just ordered projectiles last week and thought of your old thread.

Any links on how to get this going on a Dillon 550B ?

Thank you for your time and putting this post back together.

Thanks a bunch for sharing this as well as all the other interesting and informative stuff you post.

Congratulations on the new press, I can't wait to see it's pictorial.

I'm pretty sure you'd have to figure out a completely different way to skin a cat to do it on a progressive press of any kind.


The major problem is that certain steps require a process that has to push the entire case into a die.  Like de-rimming.  That step poses an essential problem to a progressive press because progressives rely on a shell plate to move cases from one station to another.  No way to get the entire case into a die when you're using a shell plate or a shell holder.

Where is the thread detailing how to recycle used primers?

Ragnar Benson listed quite a few doable priming recipes.

I wouldn't mess with any of them.  Mixing primary explosives sounds like a good way to lose body parts.

Tag.  Really cool stuff!